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View Room Comments for Sunday, Feb. 16 2014

Sunday, February 16, 2014   by: The Soap BoxWelcome to the SooToday.com View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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littlebutton 2/16/2014 6:12:06 AM Report

good morning, have a great day all.
steelworker 2/16/2014 6:55:34 AM Report

Gee stats: from your last couple of inane comments last night are we to gather that you like ointments,lubricants and the odd fist. Just come out of the closet and slap on a little deodorant; its' okay to be you.
flyhawk25 2/16/2014 7:49:49 AM Report

This time differential with the Olympics has my internal clock all turned around.
Team Jacobs in the wee hours today and again at 10 o'clock.I think there's a lot of curling fans sleep deprived right now.
theprotector 2/16/2014 7:51:30 AM Report

Gurpy I read your response to me from yesterday. And you are right, at least you would be right if the majority of people held the same opinion. No one wants anything thrown in their face even someting a personal as sexual orientation. However, read the posts, a segment of our society is ridicualed and tormented by many. Many may think its ok for Russia and other countries to do what they are doing as wrong and misguided as they are (equating homosexuality with child sexual abuse) in Canada we stand up for human rights, sexual orientation is clearly spelled out in Canada's human rights code, to fail to support and fight for these rights makes one less Canadain?? I would think
Jimssm 2/16/2014 7:52:29 AM Report

Good morning everyone.

It's odd how it's always the same posters that come up with these fetish-style sexual comments. It appears they are thinking about that stuff often.

Jimssm 2/16/2014 7:53:57 AM Report

Not naming any names. Steely.
steelworker 2/16/2014 7:58:03 AM Report

Just read stats ' comments from late last night. Pitchin' or catchin' we're not really sure about stats other than he seems to enjoy fisticuffs. (smirky face)
theprotector 2/16/2014 8:01:01 AM Report

and your wife, as do many
Just Curious 2/16/2014 8:06:24 AM Report

Play nice guys, it's Sunday.. Pro is already looking to get pulled..:)
Bobby Nerves 2/16/2014 8:08:26 AM Report

JC, do you go to the mall for coffee, sometimes?
Just Curious 2/16/2014 8:17:10 AM Report

Bobby, haven't been at either food court in the mall in 8/9 years. Used to go all the time but now just walk past. Don't like the way it's out in the aisle there now.. Loved sitting in 'perverts row' on a warm summer day...:).
theprotector 2/16/2014 8:20:05 AM Report

dont take what I said in a negative manner, it was meant as a compliment. I guess it all depends how one person's mind works!
Grump 2/16/2014 8:24:41 AM Report

Good morning everyone, are we still at this? I don't agree with anyone being discriminated against if it for something that is not hurting others. That said I had a son-in-law who after marriage and fathering children decided he was gay. I cut him some slack on that but not on being lazy, nasty, loosing a very good job for theft and being a bad natured drunk. I'm sure many believed I was discriminating because he was gay. As it turned out our daughter caught him in their home in bed with I suspect almost a complete stranger. They of course divorced and he found a new friend who turned out to be a decent fellow, has a job, the kids and family like him but still can't stand my ex son-in-law. It is really a two way street out there and too often people feel they are being avoided due to things like sex gender when they need to smarten up and become nicer human beings. Have a great day all.
Grump 2/16/2014 8:25:50 AM Report

David P , speak to B.L. as he has the info you were looking for. lol.
Grump 2/16/2014 8:28:03 AM Report

Good morning Bobby, do you want me to pick you up Monday for Men's Club?
Bobby Nerves 2/16/2014 8:35:27 AM Report

OK JC, I'm very close to it and go only when I have to do bank or go to sears for a vacuum bag and grab a coffee in my way. Yes, sometimes I go for an ballmy eye bath also.

Grump 2/16/2014 8:38:48 AM Report

Steely I forgot to mention. You really bring some class with you. The problem of course is that it is low class or no class. You have had enough sunshine for today, pull the lid back on.
Bobby Nerves 2/16/2014 8:40:26 AM Report

Good morning and thanks Grump, yes, if you can pick me up in your way it'll be fine. I have a bunch of things to do but will try to be ready. We can touch base tomorrow, maybe I call you later or tomorrow morning.

But yes, I'll be there, no bread cause I have a heavy job all day monday and thereafter.
Just Curious 2/16/2014 8:55:44 AM Report

Bobby, I live close too at the moment and walk there every other day or so but I only just walk from the LCBO to Walmart..Wish they would have put them closer together.. LOL.Maybe one day when I know you are gonna be down there I will stop and put a sign on my table so you can find me and we can have a coffee. Have met a couple of the posters on this site and it's nice to put a face to the alias..:)
old-cat33 2/16/2014 8:59:38 AM Report

Some poor soul has had to have jumped off the International bridge this morning at 1:30 AM. Nobody monitors those bridge cams I guess?
sweetc 2/16/2014 9:05:17 AM Report

the majority of Canadians buy good from China, Thailand and a number of different places. If Canadians were totally for human rights Canada would be boycotting all the countries where we know there is child labour, sweat shops etc but we don't... we keep buying and buying and buying. Does that mean we aren't Canadian because we don't stand up for those people in these instances? I believe this is worse than not flying any flag.
Wisenheimer 2/16/2014 9:13:37 AM Report

TP .. "Canadian".
Grump 2/16/2014 9:19:03 AM Report

Sweet C it's a complicated issue. If the world doesn't buy their goods many would likely starve. If you do buy I guess we are condoning child labour, poor working conditions etc. That said if you consider what some of our fore fathers and families went through to settle this land the conditions were probably worse but the conditions most left were not much better if at all.
Wisenheimer 2/16/2014 9:21:15 AM Report

So .. a suicidal person stops their car at 1:30am and jumps off the bridge.
And it's because there's not enough camera surveillance ?
Bobby Nerves 2/16/2014 9:23:30 AM Report

Yes JC, you let me know and we get together for a chat over a coffee, send me an email to sooinc at inbox dot com.
Grump 2/16/2014 9:23:32 AM Report

Wisen What's with you snide little remarks all the time? I would suspect that most on here would rather read his post's than your whiny, self important garbage. Grow up and get a life.
flyhawk25 2/16/2014 9:23:37 AM Report

Grump...complicated indeed.
We are ca consumer driven society and think our 'needs' are really our 'wants'.
It's easy for this old guy living alone to be critical because I was on that treadmill at one time.
Grump 2/16/2014 9:26:07 AM Report

Wisen there sure isn't any milk of human kindness in you is there? You really are a disgusting human being.
Wisenheimer 2/16/2014 9:26:14 AM Report

Everybody listen .. "Grump" is explaining a complicated issue.
Wisenheimer 2/16/2014 9:30:46 AM Report

Au contraire, Grumper .. My wise, insightful, no b.s. comments are appreciated by legions.
Having the words "Grump" and "complicated" in the same sentence just seemed wrong.
Grump 2/16/2014 9:30:56 AM Report

I'm going out to the shop for a while before I head to Florida, track that twit down, tear his head off and ram it up his butt where it belongs. Catch you all later.
Wisenheimer 2/16/2014 9:38:09 AM Report

Calling the cops .. APB .. "be on lookout for crazy Canadian, driving big MFing truck, babbling incoherently about "wisen" or "heimerstein" or other such such nonsense.
Wisenheimer 2/16/2014 9:38:41 AM Report

Single "such".
Just Curious 2/16/2014 9:40:47 AM Report

Sweetc, while I totally agree with you that we split hairs on this human rights issue, or issues, as it were, if I tried to buy stuff from only the countries with a high standard of living I would need a serious raise in my pension. I can barely get by buying at Walmart and the dollar store, and if Food Basics didn't have deals on meats I would not be eating much of that.. Sad but buying Canadian for a lot of us old farts is out of the question...:(
Wisenheimer 2/16/2014 9:43:27 AM Report

I believe Grump has jumped the shark. Bobby, Fly, call an ambulance.
flyhawk25 2/16/2014 9:52:36 AM Report

Get the granola ready kids.
Team Canada takes on China in curling at takes on China at ten!
Go Team Jacobs!
mallet 2/16/2014 10:12:14 AM Report


Flyhawk 25...

Do you not mean that our "wants are our needs"??
I want a Rolls Royce, but I sure don't need one, my chevy van does just fine, couldn't afford one anyway.. Consumer driven is a different thing, today regretably obsalence is built in and our bright young people have been brought up to expect this.. Just as with the recycling ideas, paper grocery bags would recycle nicely and would serve many purposes, milk bottles could be used many times before being recycled, to name just two items. Status could tell you that in the auto industry very little is repaired, just change the part, as it is cheaper than repairing, and it is the same through just about every section of our society today. As for the GLBT issue, I probably know people of that persuasion, that I do not go out of my way to associate with that section of the public, does not mean that I discriminate, any more than I would against any other minority. But why do I not hear voices raised regarding the dicrimination in lots of African countries where homosexuality is not only against the law but can carry long prison sentences...
Rant over.. you all enjoy the sunshine!!
Just Curious 2/16/2014 10:13:25 AM Report

Settle down, Fly, settle down.. You're double typing you're so excited...LOL..:)
Grump 2/16/2014 10:30:54 AM Report

Wisen you little twit did I give you a trill thinking you had got through to me. You disgust me but that's the best you have ,enjoy it. I whistled and smiled all the time I finished what I had to do. Go see Steely as I hear he is renting an apartment in the tank cheap. The lid is a little heavy but it's nice and warm. LMAO.
Grump 2/16/2014 10:34:23 AM Report

Mallet not just Africa but most of the Middle East. Nobody wants to rock the oil boat.
Wisenheimer 2/16/2014 10:50:49 AM Report

grump .. don't tell stories, you almost blew those big veins in your neck.
It's "Thrill".
mallet 2/16/2014 10:51:01 AM Report

Grump..

I know, but that has long been known, and "beating the meat or spanking the monkey" has been a long held tradition in those countries too, but no-one wants to "rock the boat" as you so aptly put it. Which is why I do not understand the issue with Russia, it is their country, they want to enact draconing laws, we can disapprove, but that is all. I think it was Nigeria who just in the last year enacted the laws regarding homosexuality with the imprisoning if convicted, but I did not hear much from the GLBT people about that, perhaps it was not a big enough platform for them...
Grump 2/16/2014 10:58:03 AM Report

Wisen How would you feel if that person who jumped off the bridge turned out to be a friend of yours. Sorry forgot you don't have any. LMAO
Wisenheimer 2/16/2014 11:03:55 AM Report

No hurricanes touch Mainland N.A. in 2013.
Great Lakes to completely freeze over in next 2 weeks.
East N.A. still in grip of "polar vortex"
aka "Winter".
Ice at both poles increasing at record rate.
Man made global warming recently morphs into climate change.

Drought in California caused by man made regulations that protects smelts.
Wisenheimer 2/16/2014 11:09:23 AM Report

Grump .. I would not surmise that more cameras on the bridge would have deterred them.
The Golden Gate bridge in San Fran. is still suicide central after years of attempting to reduce the frequency.
Wisenheimer 2/16/2014 11:11:00 AM Report

Grump when you're finished laughing uncontrollably you may want to pick up some reading.
cathyh 2/16/2014 11:31:29 AM Report

It Makes one wonder about the monitoring on the bridge. There was 1 a couple of years ago where the bloke parked his truck and climbed up the infrastructure then he jumped. One would think that better camera monitoring might have helped. What if a terrorist planted a bomb of some sort in the spots where those unfortunates took their lives, would monitoring catch that?
Grump 2/16/2014 11:46:55 AM Report

Wisen as usual B.S. The ice at the North Pole is decreasing not increasing. The Danes expect to open up shipping lanes to service the west coast of North America and much of Asia. Get your facts straight before you post your usual crap.
Bobby Nerves 2/16/2014 11:48:45 AM Report

Yes, no doubt monitoring will catch no only that, but everything that happens.

The question is if a 24-7 monitoring will avoid any action.

In the best case scenario, it will deter, and eventually record the facts.

Any sort of modifications in the Bridge will be loaded on taxpayers.

And if you expect to deter the suicidal instinct with a camera, obviously you have not an idea about human behavior, but you believe yourself capable of arguing in the biological field.

Biologically, you are close to a fish.
Just Curious 2/16/2014 12:43:32 PM Report

Monitoring the bridge (and I assume it's done 24/7 now) won't stop suicides because by the time it's noticed and responded too the person will already be gone. As for bombs, the monitors will catch that in time to maybe stop it or at the least clear the bridge. Personally, I think if a terrorist wanted to do the bridge, a truck loaded with explosives would cause irreparable damages and shut the bridge down for years or maybe until a new one is built.. All the cameras in the world won't stop that, nobody is checked until after you get across. Really don't know why it's not already been done, seriously..
irishfey 2/16/2014 12:45:33 PM Report

Grump>>> I think you just need to take a Valium and relax a bit... Don"t be too hard on Wise and cut him a little slack will ya?? :) :)... hee hee
soowat 2/16/2014 1:05:19 PM Report

Brad Jacob's rink beats China 9-8 in an extra end.Best curling game of the Olympics
statusquo 2/16/2014 1:08:21 PM Report

Yeah soowhat....I twisted my hip trying to guide that last stone....
statusquo 2/16/2014 1:09:43 PM Report

But now its back to hockey, the first "real" team the Canadians have to face.
nanag 2/16/2014 1:16:24 PM Report

Team Jacobs is soooooo awesome. I thought i would try to get down in that crouch like Ryan Fry does .. threw out a hip and had to call 911 to get untangled.. well would have if I had actually gotten out of the chair. :)
Bobby Nerves 2/16/2014 1:20:30 PM Report

JC, why it hasn't done? Because even the bad people fear us.

Can you imagine the mud hitting the fan in the blue room immediately after the facts.

If they swipe the soo of the map they may never make it to the virgins cave, they'll have to carry the ring-bow flag all over, and for eternity.

There are much easy treats out there.
Just Curious 2/16/2014 1:27:11 PM Report

@ Bobby....LOL..:)
dust2 2/16/2014 1:35:03 PM Report

This flag nonsense is beyond stupid. It's one group imposing their beliefs onto an organization, nothing more. Yes we have gays and a LGBT community, does that mean we need to put up a stupid flag?

What if I was part of the "Pink dresses are okay for everyone" group, should they put up my flag? Oh they don't want to put up my flag? I GUESS THEY DON'T THINK PINK DRESSES ARE FOR EVERYONE THEN. HOW SHAMEFUL OF THEM

It's a request followed by threats. it's lose-lose by the city. If they put it up, they;re giving into pressure. If they don't, they receive criticisms for not supporting the LGBT community.

Just because they don't have a flag showing gay support, doesn't mean they don't support gays. God dammit how are people so riled up over a stupid flag. How dumb are people to think that no flag = hating gays

What a bunch of whiners. Yeah the city isn't going to put up a flag that's only associated with the LGBT community, big deal.

Even if the flag was up, no one would really care.
theprotector 2/16/2014 1:45:02 PM Report

wisen is one of those folks that if they were to never be heard from again, whether on this site or in life, no one would really care. He is a miserable excuse for a human! Evil at his heart and soul caring only about himself and enjoyng the suffering of others.
cathyh 2/16/2014 1:56:05 PM Report

Bobby Nerves: Where did I say it would stop suicides? By the way, maybe you should also brush up on your biology. Seems to me that you & Grump are quick to put down anyone who offers a plausible theory or if you like opinion to the BGLT situation in humans. And by the way, Grump has a potty mouth. I wonder if he talks like he does in his posts in the presence of his pastor.
flyhawk25 2/16/2014 2:14:53 PM Report

A sure sign that a topic has been beaten to death is when the spawn of dust1 tries to comment.
Let it go.
It's old news.
Javaman 2/16/2014 2:21:47 PM Report

Canada WINS 2 TO 1 IN HOCKEY....WOOHOO
Bobby Nerves 2/16/2014 2:30:31 PM Report

cathyh, I've been rude and could have avoided part of the comment.

See what you had written:

It Makes one wonder about the monitoring on the bridge.

You can wonder what you'd like, monitoring means that a person (live monitoring) a system (remote-automatic monitoring). The monitoring not necessarily is happening over, in or around the bridge. It could very well be done in Utah, where they check all this messages.
*****
There was 1 a couple of years ago where the bloke parked his truck and climbed up the infrastructure then he jumped.

Then, everything was planned before hand to the second and we are talking monitoring, observing, watching and building a data base of events. Not even a live person standing there will have a chance to deter another person with suicidal intent.
*****
One would think that better camera monitoring might have helped.

Do you still think a camera could have helped. It already did help, it recorded the event and discarded any suspicion. Someone could have been blamed for pushing the suicidal person down the bridge, then that's no longer a suicide, but the camera discarded a foreign intervention immediately before and after the facts and the behavior could be studied as the cameras well record the person long before the jump.
******
What if a terrorist planted a bomb of some sort in the spots where those unfortunates took their lives, would monitoring catch that?

I'm assuming your hypothesis include the very skinny chance of passing the filters with the explosive... and I guess you know that the Russians are desperately in need of obtaining the Allies technology to sniff explosives.

Obviously you're not fully aware of the protection of our borders.

The cameras are there for a reason and if they are monitored is to study the behavior of people moving over the bridge. Did you ever went through and have been pulled aside with a surprise not only for you but for the agent indeed, because "the computer" hit you.

As your case is hypothetical, we can no elaborate, but if the border patrol is waiting for a large fish, why would they agitate the waters when a duck passes by. An act of terrorism is incubated over a period of time and with the knowledge of many people, including enemies, not enemies and interested in making few dollars.

A suicide is a one person decision, can be reversed, but will not be shared with any one else.

I'm sorry for the deceased and mostly for the family left behind, it's very sad.

And, I'm also sorry for act in such compulsive manner when I'd answered you. I appreciate you'd bring it to my attention and I'll avoid it in the future.
Grump 2/16/2014 2:36:59 PM Report

Cathyh You make stupid statements and then wiggle around trying to justify them. My going to Church is none of your damn business as is anything else I do. Pull the pickle out or scroll on by it is all the same to me. If you are going to come out as some kind of an expert like you do (biology) ,please also provide your degree or education on the subject otherwise run along and bother someone else. You have a nice day now.
steelworker 2/16/2014 2:45:28 PM Report

Grump: get your facts straight. For months you and the rest of the liberal losers have been claiming that conservatives live in a swamp (Swampers). We do not live in a septic tank. This is because it is full of liberals and every Spring you have to pump them out. Better to live in a swamp than a septic tank n'est pas?
Bobby Nerves 2/16/2014 2:58:20 PM Report

The latest in home politics. A General retires after a long career serving our country in remote areas in conflicts. He decide to move to a new home and step on private life initiating a career in politics.

He choose the natural party, Liberal and start to campaign.

But this General was critical of the mismanagement of the public money in the Army and that affects the reputation of Steve and the Old Boys.

The Minister of Defense is furious, because the General invoiced the taxpayers for a total $ 72.000 for real estate fees, which in the other hand is an standard for the relocating Generals.

Steve and the PM office throw him under the bus, but we do not know if the pushing is because the General is a Liberal and was critic of the Defense mismanagement or just because the Politicians are all honest and the General is not, and we discover it at the end of his career.

sparks7 2/16/2014 3:16:31 PM Report

Steelworker


Just take another look at your last post then perhaps consider some in between shift courses in logic.
Grump 2/16/2014 3:17:55 PM Report

Steely I have to bow to your knowledge of swamps and septic tanks as you are the expert. Now if you fellows didn't B.S. so much I would be able to buy into it, sadly because of the said propensity to B.S. I have to reject your theory. Have a great day now.
steelworker 2/16/2014 3:20:13 PM Report

There is no room for logic in the Blue Room.
old-cat33 2/16/2014 3:25:20 PM Report

Ha Ha Wisen,Don't tangle ass with the Grumpster he's a heavyweight you're just a light weight!!!

Anyway I had a game over the ditch this morning and I asked the Customs officer where the lady was from that jumped off the bridge?He said she was from Brimley he thinks? Then at a stoppage in play I asked the ref (who is as blind as a bat) and he said he didn't hear anything and asked how Canada was doing in curling? Then one of my OPP chummies in the dressing room said that February is a bad month for suicides.
Grump 2/16/2014 3:29:56 PM Report

Sparks7 That would have been a good trip from Steelton out there to Garsons. Someone told me they tried to find out how deep that pond off Korah Rd, was and let out 600 plus FT of line and never hit bottom. I don't know why they didn't just get more line but then there wasn't much money around to waste in those days.
Grump 2/16/2014 3:46:44 PM Report

Old-Cat 33 I expect your friend is right, the lack of sunlight seems to really get most of us down but some severely. It is truly a shame that some young people get down that low and hide it so well that they don't get the help they need before it comes to a tragic end. In any case I'm damn sick of this winter. It wasn't so bad when I could ski. I asked the Surgeon who replaced my knee when he thought I could start skiing again. After he rolled around laughing for a while he said NEVER.
sparks7 2/16/2014 4:32:12 PM Report


Grump.It was about a 3 or 4 mile walk but to us that was nothing and we spent as much time up there as we could,even during the winter fishing through the ice.Makes me shake my head when I look at kids today who are driven everywhere by their parents.Times sure changed.I caught my first fish, a speck, in 1961 at the first trestle there when i was 7 years old and that memory is painted into mind like it happened yesterday.A couple times a year my friend and I would stash our fishing rods in a laneway then pretend to go to school in the morning.We would drop off the books,grab our gear and go fishin.Anyhow so many Huck Finn type stories and memories for which like I said I will be forever grateful to the Garsons for letting us do what we had to do.Their tolerance and kindness kept us out of trouble.I know that little pond you referred to.There was a rumor back in the day of a giant pike or muskie living in there that ate the baby duckings.Kids would try to catch it ,but I don''t know if anyone ever did.We were way more interested in the specks and odd rainbow up the creek.I wonder If there is anybody else on this site that spent time on the east davingion creek at that time.We probably know each other.
steelworker 2/16/2014 4:37:25 PM Report

We used to walk fron North Street Field area up to the first trestle and beyond every New Years day for opening day of speck fishing. This was in the mid-sixties and it didn't matter if it was thirty below or not.
Grump 2/16/2014 4:55:58 PM Report

Sparks7 We lived on the Second Line near Goulais Avenue. We took the bus to Collegiate in the morning until I could afford a car. After school we either walked to the bus terminal to catch the bus home around 4.30 or just set out walking. Most of the time we would beat the bus home, if not he would only be a couple of blocks ahead of us. An hour or so of a walk wasn't any big deal back then. My brother-in-law refined creek fishing. All he carried was line, bait and a few screw in eyelets. He would cut a long straight pole when he got there ,screw a few eyes in ,thread the line through them, leave about 3 or 4 feet dangling over the end and tie it to the handle. He could stand back 10 or 15 feet, pull the hook, sinker and bait up to the last eye, feed it in through the tag alders, let the line down into the water and when he got a strike, pull it all back up tight to the eyelet and thread it back out of the alders. He likely took as many as three or four times the trout that we did.
redranger 2/16/2014 5:04:14 PM Report

Steelworker
If you wish to appear clever with your little French phrases, please get them correct. You irritate those of us who know the difference.
Grump 2/16/2014 5:12:22 PM Report

redranger are you still suffering through all that great weather and fine food?
sparks7 2/16/2014 5:19:43 PM Report

Grump.I love them kind of stories.Like you said,not much money back then and people did what they could.That first fish I mentioned...I found a broken hockey stick in the mud and my older brother tied a line/hook/sinker to it for me and that was my tackle.I have pictures here of my dad back in the days when they would go to little inland lakes, cut logs and build rafts to get out on the water.

Steelworker
If what you are saying is true then it is a slam dunk that we know each other.I grew up on morin st. about one block south of north street field.Tell me what street you were coming from and I bet I could take a good shot at knowing who you are.From what I just said you probably know who I am.
jasonqb 2/16/2014 5:20:31 PM Report

Reading some of the homophobic comments doesn't shock me but what chocks me is the fact those people who make these homophobic comments are hiding behind a false name! I am curious if they would be brave enough to have the same opinion with out hiding behind a false name.

"dust2 2/16/2014 1:35:03 PMReport

This flag nonsense is beyond stupid. It's one group imposing their beliefs onto an organization, nothing more. Yes we have gays and a LGBT community, does that mean we need to put up a stupid flag?

What if I was part of the "Pink dresses are okay for everyone" group, should they put up my flag? Oh they don't want to put up my flag? I GUESS THEY DON'T THINK PINK DRESSES ARE FOR EVERYONE THEN. HOW SHAMEFUL OF THEM

It's a request followed by threats. it's lose-lose by the city. If they put it up, they;re giving into pressure. If they don't, they receive criticisms for not supporting the LGBT community.

Just because they don't have a flag showing gay support, doesn't mean they don't support gays. God dammit how are people so riled up over a stupid flag. How dumb are people to think that no flag = hating gays

What a bunch of whiners. Yeah the city isn't going to put up a flag that's only associated with the LGBT community, big deal.

Even if the flag was up, no one would really care."

There were people like you in the olympics in 1936 who believe Black athletes had no right to be in the O;ympics, Adolf Hitler was the biggest supporter!

BTW my name is JASON MERLING and I stand behind my message!!!!!
Hunter101 2/16/2014 5:29:50 PM Report

Sorry Jason, but you're being irate.

Just because we don't fly the LGBT flag, doesn't mean we don't support it. If I asked to fly a flag for gun rights at city hall I'm sure it would be turned down as well. It's a joke to fly anything but the flags of the city, province and country.

Get over it. No one is hating gays by refusing to fly their flag.
redranger 2/16/2014 5:35:05 PM Report

Hi Grump
I am bearing up. Since I am already down here, you might as well give me the contract on Wisencrapper.
jasonqb 2/16/2014 5:41:39 PM Report

Hunter101

Irate? I am really sorry I gave you that impression. That was never my intention to be angry.

And you are the reason why other's like myself are fighting so hard on this issue. The more you push the more we will push back.

Hitler had the same opinion in 1936 who didn't want black people in the olympics. I am sorry you are joining that rank of people.

Oh and I don't write this via angry but rather I feel sorry for you. I can't imagine living a life with no unconditional compassion towards all people on this big giant earth.

My name is Jason Merling... whats your name?


steelworker 2/16/2014 6:01:41 PM Report

Sorry redranger: my frog she is not so good.
dust2 2/16/2014 6:02:09 PM Report

rofl look at this guy, comparing us to Hitler, jesus what level of delusional do you have to be to say that nonsense.

guess what, a flag doesn't mean anything. they can support gays all they want, that doesn't mean they HAVE to put up a flag. You fools are associating gay rights with a flag, when you should be focused on real issues. A flag is a stupid, petty issue compared to something real like gay marriage (which is good).

Your real name sucks. Get over it
Grump 2/16/2014 6:06:08 PM Report

redranger, Handling Wisen would be just as someone on here said recently like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end. Thanks for the offer but you wouldn't want to get your hands that dirty. Glad you are suffering through. See you when you are back. Regards G.
sparks7 2/16/2014 6:17:47 PM Report

Steelworker = Zap
Hunter101 2/16/2014 6:20:47 PM Report

Jason,

Are you a moron?

Just because I don't support raising a flag at city hall to advertise gay rights doesn't mean I don't support them.

You need to quit the "you're either for us or against us" attitude. I don't march on MLK day either, and most Canadians don't on the whole. That doesn't mean we don't support race equality.

I won't give you my name for the very reason that all you will do is try to exploit me. People of your type are irrational.
jasonqb 2/16/2014 6:21:55 PM Report

To dust2

rofl look at this guy, comparing us to Hitler, jesus what level of delusional do you have to be to say that nonsense.

What I find just as delusional is you hiding behind the name of "dust2", do you have the courage to say what you write with out the essence of your anonymity.

I am glad you clearly understood my connection to people like you and hitler.

BTW and I am proud to be delusional according your meaning of the word.
Grump 2/16/2014 6:24:53 PM Report

Jason Merling Congratulation you have met another young man in your age group. You are both arrogant, sure that's it's the rest of us that are wrong and you are the only ones that are right. With a good deal of luck you both may grow up and discover you are not always right and life will be a lot easier when you stop expecting others to jump to do what you want done. I don't know about the rest on here but I don't give a furry rat's butt if you are gay or sky, blue pink. It is how you behave and treat other that matters. If you and dust2 want to bang heads please carry on.
Hunter101 2/16/2014 6:26:52 PM Report

So Jason, explain to me why we should fly the LGBT flag at city hall?

It's city property. People don't want to see overzealous statements at city hall.

It can be flown anywhere else, just not at city hall.
Gurpy 2/16/2014 6:26:57 PM Report

Protector I did see your post from this morning. I didn`t bother to read any of the archives.
You said in your post that I`d be right if the majority held the same opinion? No, it doesn`t work that way. I am entitled to my own personal opinion and I don`t turn myself inside out worrying about who approves or disapproves.
You also said a segment of our society is ridiculed & tormented by many? I know!!! You cannot open your mouth about CHURCH, GOD, the BIBLE etc without incurring ABUSE!!! But it`s perfectly alright to have a minority come around and DEMAND your support, respect etc after tearing you to shreds and denying you YOUR basic Human Rights because they do not agree with YOUR lifestyle? Quite the double standard!
We ALL have Human Rights under Canadian law. We do not allow citizens from other countries to live here and carry out what is acceptable in their home countries. ie Honor killings. Canada has seen the devastation caused by a few who thought they knew better than us!
We as Canadians have no business entering another country and demanding that they conform to the Canadian way of doing things! I`m referring to Russia. And, in turn other countries should not be coming here and trying to tell us how to live. It`s the same as when you are a guest in someone`s home. Do you go in and start rearranging the cupboards because you don`t like the way they`ve organized them? Do you start telling them how to raise their children and what time their husband should be home by? No! You mind your own business & show appreciation for their hospitality and if you don`t like the visit, you don`t go back!!
Canada has a hard enough time dealing with it`s own issues!
As for the gay/lesbian community, a SELECT FEW will have my support! I do NOT help people who S*#t all over me! Respect and support are a two way street! I`m beginning to see that they really HATE people who so much as enter a church so, why would they want my help? Why would I place myself on their path if they have so much HATRED for me simply because of one of my choices? I do sometimes attend church which is MY business and my right as a Canadian.
Another one of my rights is to voice my opinion. I did, and out came the lions!!!
I do not agree with having the gay flag at city hall! I does NOT mean that I am not willing to support these people as fellow humans, provided they act like humans!
This topic has really worn itself out! It should have never become such an issue! The gay/lesbian community is recognized by our government. These people have the same legal rights as anyone else! All this over a flag? This has been overdone! Someone was looking for attention. He got it and now it`s caused a lot of division amongst the cities residents! Was it really worth it?
I`m done. I MIGHT pop in from time to time. The blue room has been torn to shreds by an issue which never should been an issue. All over a flag! God help us!
jasonqb 2/16/2014 6:32:43 PM Report

Hunter101
Yes I am a moron! I love the fact you all don't mind using such name calling in your response. I have been completely respectful with out calling anyone a moron or ect.

Flying the Rainbow flag is not a protest against tyranny. Our country’s sign of solidarity for its LGBTQ2S citizens was to participate in the games while refusing to remain silent in the face of hatred and discrimination. Just like in the Olympics in 1936 regarding the Black community.

Using your method of argument has lost all credibility and any kind of respect.
My name is Jason Merling and I stand behind this post!

Please feel free to e-mail me to discuss this issue.
jasonqb@gmail.com
Please be respectful without calling me a moron or any other belittling name. I will not tolerate your cowardly, and bullying ways!!! Are we clear?
steelworker 2/16/2014 6:38:11 PM Report

Looks like a shoot-out at the O-gay Corral.
jasonqb 2/16/2014 6:43:17 PM Report

steelworker 2/16/2014 6:38:11 PMReport

Looks like a shoot-out at the O-gay Corral.

Just proving my point of homophobic illness. Thanks for that Steelworker!
Hunter101 2/16/2014 6:52:57 PM Report

I think he was making a joke, unlike you pushing your political agenda on us.
irishfey 2/16/2014 6:53:18 PM Report

Grump>> Got another bucket of water handy?.. Think another needs it,, worked for me :)... and to the know it all young ones out there... Me Dad had a saying.. " Come back in 20 yrs. and tell me what youve learned since you knew it all " ,lol...
Hunter101 2/16/2014 6:53:36 PM Report

And yes, I did laugh.
jasonqb 2/16/2014 7:03:10 PM Report

Hunter101

I will not belittle you nor will I bully you like you have done in your responses to me...however I did not find that joke funny...at all!


You call my opinion having a political agenda.. I call my opinion realistic in my unconditional acceptance to everyone in the world. Even you Hunter101
I'll respond to your post so long as you don't express yourself "LIKE" a bully or a ignorant baffoon!
I hope you have a good day!
Hunter101 2/16/2014 7:08:23 PM Report

Jason, I agree with treating everyone equal.

However, you cannot push your ideas on everyone. Some people feel the flag does not belong at city hall and I am one of them.

Like I said, fly it someplace else where people can see it. It doesn't belong on city hall.
jasonqb 2/16/2014 7:17:20 PM Report

Hunte101

Thank you for that response. I respect response and we can both agree to disagree.

I really appreciate and respect your view.
redranger 2/16/2014 7:25:03 PM Report

Gurpy
It is getting very tiring having you pop in every day, rant for a bit with your cap button on (very juvenile) and then say it is over, and you are leaving the blue room. Please do.
Go to the red room. They are short one to make the "Twa Corbies".
Just Curious 2/16/2014 7:36:11 PM Report

Jason; my two cents worth(I guess it would be a nickel now)... You don't live here any longer so you don't really have the courage of your convictions... You cut and run and now snipe from the safety of Toronto.. You don't live here so shut the hell up about what we do here, it's no longer your business. You don't have the right to tell me what to do in my yard..
:)
Hunter101 2/16/2014 7:38:27 PM Report

JC, I agree.
SmAsHed 2/16/2014 7:38:46 PM Report

I actually can't get over how mean everyone is to each other here...
SmAsHed 2/16/2014 7:42:31 PM Report

Also, to Jason;

I fully support flying the Pride Flag at City Hall. I think it would have been a really nice way to show our support as a city to the athletes and Canadians in Sochi, and it would have been a very positive gesture to be shown in the media given the attention the Soo is getting right now.

Also, I'm a straight woman. Not that it should matter, but people seem to think it is only the LGBT community that wants to push this issue.
Just Curious 2/16/2014 7:59:34 PM Report

Smucked; We are showing our support for ALL athletes from the Sault or anywhere else in Canada,EQUALLY, not for one group or another.. It's a done deal now so who cares. Time to move on tomorrow on a new topic, this one has been beat to death and no one has changed their minds..
celeste5 2/16/2014 8:06:57 PM Report

RedRanger

We never exchanged words,
Yet, you insult me.
realitycheck 2/16/2014 8:18:43 PM Report

"Jason; my two cents worth(I guess it would be a nickel now)... You don't live here any longer so you don't really have the courage of your convictions... You cut and run and now snipe from the safety of Toronto.. You don't live here so shut the hell up about what we do here, it's no longer your business. You don't have the right to tell me what to do in my yard.."

Just Curious:
Jason has just as much right to voice an opinion on here as you do.
Javaman 2/16/2014 8:21:28 PM Report

It is so sad that there are so many mean spirited posters on here. There seems to be very little tolerance for differing views. One young man has clearly pointed out how he felt he had to leave the city. What is so wrong with his decision? HE feels the Soo is homophobic...that is his view and may not be yours...SO WHAT? Sometimes posters on here are so adamant about being correct that they miss the points being made altogether. Respect garners respect.
steelworker 2/16/2014 8:25:14 PM Report

Life is hard: buy a helmet. BTW I cracked myself up over the corral thingy.
sparks7 2/16/2014 8:36:42 PM Report

Zap

Go do another line and have a few more kids.
jasonqb 2/16/2014 8:41:10 PM Report

I am just ignoring any comments who are belittling, or bullying by using negative words to express their opinion. In my world those who act like a baffoon has clearly no merit worth considering their train of thought.

I have allot more respect for Hunter101 opinion as he was able to express his view with out being ignorant.

As for me not living in Sault Ste Marie. I do have a say as I have many friends who happen to be gay and I also care about the GLTB community in general.

SmAsHed 2/16/2014 8:46:41 PM Report

Smucked. Good one.
steelworker 2/16/2014 8:57:49 PM Report

What the hell is a baffoon. I think it's something from an orchestra. BTW sparks7 you're wrong the Zap family lived over on Birch Street I think.
Gurpy 2/16/2014 9:37:01 PM Report

redranger
My post was in response to an earlier post from protector. It was not addressed to you.
SmAsHed 2/16/2014 9:47:27 PM Report

Personally, Gurpy, I think a little division among the city residents might not be a bad thing. I have seen now a lot of younger people who weren`t overly interested in politics here take an interest and join in the debate. If nothing else, at least we can thank the Pride Flag debate for that.

Debates are healthy, as long as the parties show respect towards one another. That seems to be easier said that done.

I sincerely hope to see some changes as more people take notice of current affairs within Sault Ste. Marie. I think some changes are necessary. You may choose to agree or disagree; as you`ve stated multiple times, you have the right to your opinion, as do I.
sparks7 2/16/2014 9:50:20 PM Report

Chestnut steet...
dust2 2/16/2014 9:55:42 PM Report

>"What I find just as delusional is you hiding behind the name of "dust2", do you have the courage to say what you write with out the essence of your anonymity."

welcome to the internet? did you just get on this thing and assume you could only use your real name? by the way, belittling me for using an alias online is like belittling someone for putting regular gasoline in their car. this is why I called you delusional, because you are.

I'm not going to argue the hitler thing because you're either an idiot or a troll, regardless no one is that stupid to compare someone that mass murdered in the thousands to someone who you BOO-HOO DON'T AGREE WITH ON THE INTERNET

call me out all you want and use your name all you want, that doesn't make you any more of a man, or tougher, or have anything I don't. you're like every other witch-hunting loser here, bored out of your mind because you're not interesting or special, so you're left digging into the lives of others because yours isn't exciting.

because you and me both know you'd instantly google my name, and spend a depressing amount of time looking me up. the difference between me and you is I don't waste my time caring about others who piss me off on the internet.

A flag means nothing at city hall. Yell and scream all you want, but I can say city hall is racist because they won't celebrate black history month with enough posters. It's a petty demand from bored people with nothing better to do than chirp at city hall for something as small as a flag. a flag that isn't even a country flag.

hi my name is john doe and im a tough guy LOL
sparks7 2/16/2014 10:12:22 PM Report

Steelworker

I am wondering if this is you now.
One time while were fishing and doing really good there was this kinda geeky,smart kid, younger than us but he wanted to be there.He actually asked me if it was ok for him to be fishing there with us.At that time I found it odd that a kid would even question that as he had every right to the stream as we did.Was that you?I think the kid was from Nelson Street.
soowat 2/16/2014 10:39:00 PM Report

From the Urban Dictionary

Gurpy
A slightly nauseous, overall "blah" feeling.

Kind of sums up the feeling that the poster using that pen name causes in all that read her drivel.
BIG BROTHER 2/16/2014 11:36:27 PM Report

Just Curious 2/16/2014 7:36:11 PMReport

Jason; my two cents worth(I guess it would be a nickel now)... You don't live here any longer so you don't really have the courage of your convictions... You cut and run and now snipe from the safety of Toronto.. You don't live here so shut the hell up about what we do here, it's no longer your business. You don't have the right to tell me what to do in my yard..



..................................


Someone actually wrote this and pressed the send button. What planet are you on JC. Tell me you're joking right!!???
beyondmind'seye 2/16/2014 11:45:41 PM Report

Well, dont worry about city hall. Just fly your flags in support from your own home, in your heart and in your mind.

Love your neighbor.
itsky123 2/16/2014 11:52:36 PM Report

To these younger people, you were given 2 ears and one mouth, time to shut up and listen once and a while. you dont have all the answers, you just want to argue about any issue. MHO
Javaman 2/16/2014 11:56:19 PM Report

Does everyone feel better now ???
itsky123 2/17/2014 12:06:04 AM Report

java man..feel better now, I just stop in to give my Humbel opinion, read this site daily, yes I agree and disagree on things discussed here, as it should be. feel beter now that my mind told me to say, lol..have a good one.
itsky123 2/17/2014 12:08:32 AM Report

java man, sorry forgot a "t", so I drank it.
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