steelworker 2/14/2014 2:17:47 AM Report
Off to work to support stats and the rest of the Libs. They would die if they had to spend their own money to support people.
Grump 2/14/2014 6:07:41 AM Report
Good morning everyone. Nice to see Wisen is still living in la la land and I don't mean Florida. It seems Flaherty may be the next one going under the bus as Harper and senior Ministers delivered a good part of the budget which is not only extremely rude but almost unheard of. Rex Murphy on the National said Harper is not much of a history buff or he would remember what the Chretien/Martin breakup did for the Liberals. The games being played out between the senior ministers jockeying to replace Harper seems to be pretty well out in the open with these Minister making public statements differing from Harper's. Let the games begin. Have a great day everyone.
Jimssm 2/14/2014 6:38:56 AM Report
If you've ever worked at Essar/Algoma, Stats and Fly and rw and Grump (and even Wisen) have supported YOU with their tax dollars.
nanag 2/14/2014 6:46:35 AM Report
Good Friday morning all
Grump .. don't take this the wrong way but.. it never ceases to amaze me how the first thing out of your mouth ( and the mouths of others)on here is politics. The last thing on my mind is that stuff. I guess I boogie to the beat of a totally different drummer :) And I do just fine. Have a great weekend kids. I'm sure someone will be in later to stir up the "cat sh*t" in your sandbox
Gurpy 2/14/2014 6:52:10 AM Report
Big difference between having a job and WORKING!
Grump 2/14/2014 6:54:15 AM Report
Well done Jimssm. I almost forgot, Happy Valentine's day to all, particularly you Ladies who have put up with us for so long. I'll bet you girls started off thinking that you were going to change this or that about us eh? Well girls don't despair because most of us are at least walking upright. Have a wonderful day all. I have a light day so I'll be back to keep all you neo-cons up to date with the latest Harper incompetence and major screw ups. Ta ta till then.
Javaman 2/14/2014 6:55:13 AM Report
Well...the Liberals lost BOTH by-elections in Ontario yesterday. I guess Wynne is now a loser .Bring on an election soon.
Grump 2/14/2014 6:59:33 AM Report
nanag good morning and happy Valentine's Day to you my dear. Have a great day. Sorry about all the politics but our Country is going down the drain with this government and someone needs to keep their incompetence, lies and total disregard for average Canadian's front and centre. Don't you be fooling around on those washers and dryers and such. lol
Grump 2/14/2014 7:07:10 AM Report
Javaman Yes the Liberals in Ontario screwed up but we don't deserve Hudak with his right to work legislation so that most can have Wall Mart type jobs or the Dippers giving away what we don't have. I honestly don't know what happened with Dalton other than him likely losing control. That said Wynne has a handle on the mess she inherited so seems the best bet for now. IMHO
Bobby Nerves 2/14/2014 7:32:47 AM Report
Good morning and happy Valentine's day.
My wife is awake and couldn't see the shadow. Six more months of winter!
Good luck in your neck of the woods.
Bobby Nerves 2/14/2014 7:38:13 AM Report
Happy birthday to a person that did a lot for Ontario, still does and deserves a very Happy Birthday Mayor Hazel McCallion of Mississauga.
And not, David Poluck, definitively, I don't care who Rob Ford will be with celebrating Valentine's day!
David Poluck 2/14/2014 7:40:30 AM Report
Grump, to your 7:07 post so basically any direction we bend...screwed!
David Poluck 2/14/2014 7:42:12 AM Report
Gee bobby...really...how did I get dragged into this??
Bobby Nerves 2/14/2014 7:49:49 AM Report
I don't know, but you deserve it!
Bobby Nerves 2/14/2014 7:57:03 AM Report
I just heard that the hundred inches seashore rising due to global worming was suspended.
I'm out to shovel snow.
nanag 2/14/2014 8:09:02 AM Report
oh darlin that washer/dryer thing was long ago.. I have been thinking of getting one of those heated vibrating chair pads but then with my luck I would get some sort of electical burn. I think I will just ruminate on bygone uhmmm activities . At this stage in my life it's safer than climbing on appliances or sloshing tea on the heated vibrating chair pad.. off to work play nice
Wisenheimer 2/14/2014 8:12:34 AM Report
Grump .. I can see the veins in your neck bulging all the way down in Boca.
Take a 81mg pill and get to work.
Wisenheimer 2/14/2014 8:14:32 AM Report
"Global worming" .. 1st I heard of it!
Did you get the memo on what an "all stock deal" means ?
flyhawk25 2/14/2014 8:16:28 AM Report
The local news site still does not having a final curling score.
I assume Team Jacobs won?
right wing 2/14/2014 8:23:31 AM Report
According to B.B. if you comment about what a politician states for the public record you are running scared of him...we get it, you are terrified of Harper.
Wisenheimer 2/14/2014 8:28:13 AM Report
Bu Bye, Kathleen Wynne.
right wing 2/14/2014 8:36:13 AM Report
Byelections have a way of sending exactly the right message to political parties.
In this case, they're saying to Wynne and her Liberals that we're fed up.
I feel an election coming....bu-bye Winnie and your pooh...
theprotector 2/14/2014 8:49:33 AM Report
so let me get this straight, because niagra flipped from liberal to ndp and Thornhill remained conservative the swampers think its the end of the Liberals provincially? BAHAHAHAHA!!!
Wild Turkey 2/14/2014 8:50:27 AM Report
@RW and Wise---Wynne gone--who then?
Budster 2/14/2014 8:59:32 AM Report
Ont. is screwed because we don't have an alternative to only a one horse race. Federally the other two are worse than what we have and the same thing applies provincially. Just hope we get replacements in before the Vaseline runs out.
Javaman 2/14/2014 9:02:46 AM Report
Ontario is not ready for the NDP again. HUDAK scares many people with his policies and has not even have the full support of his party as a leader. That will allow Wynne to sneak up the middle between these two parties and squeak out a another minority government. It is sad to think that the Liberals....after all they have done to us...are the best choice going forward. Of course IMHO.
flyhawk25 2/14/2014 9:10:52 AM Report
If I were a betting man I'd bet: a)that Wynne stays on as leader; b)the NDP forms a minority with the Liberals.
Unless the Tories can Hudak then all bets are off.
theprotector 2/14/2014 9:13:04 AM Report
Wicket 2/14/2014 9:15:24 AM Report
HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY - enjoy, and if you are alone, treat yourself to some chocolate....
NO POLITICS here - lol....
right wing 2/14/2014 9:15:49 AM Report
Yes what can one riding possibly mean to the Liberals...they only poured over 100 million into the area in a bribery attempt.
A spot they held onto for the past ten years...
Nothing to worry about.
theprotector 2/14/2014 9:22:48 AM Report
good we agree on something.
right wing 2/14/2014 9:29:47 AM Report
What I find more interesting is that the total vote count for both riding's is as follows:
P.C. - 26,961
Liberal - 18,735
NDP - 16,422
The P.C.'s lost in Niagara by 962 votes.
Those that are easily dismissing the Conservatives and Hudak out of forming a minority government with the Liberals might be in for another shocker....
Bobby Nerves 2/14/2014 9:34:16 AM Report
Wisenheimer, this language thing is driving me crazy, the a is ey, the e is i and sometimes is there but is not there, the i is ay, please give it a much needed review. Yes, I know a worm is what is crawling around your only neuron and I should have written warming.
Thank you for bringing it to my attention.
You have to be careful with what you wish in Ontario, because I see an N... deep... peep ... floating in your timmy this morning.
BTW, you are in my list of obsessive compulsive people to keep the three step distance from, you know that those obsessions with perfection and detail are a symptom of impotence?
No good news for a Valentine's Day.LOL
right wing 2/14/2014 9:34:37 AM Report
...yes we agree on something (sarcasm on)....now go look in the mirror and see if your eyes are open.
soowat 2/14/2014 9:47:02 AM Report
I have faith that most people on this site are decent folks who enjoy a bit of verbal jousting. Thus I suggest you read the article in the Sault Star at:
Doing so will make you realize our lives aren't so bad and may inspire you to take a trip to East view school to buy some cupcakes
Grump 2/14/2014 9:49:52 AM Report
Wisen and rw never mind the Provincial story we all know what happened and will vote as we want. I want to know what your feeble excuses are for 1 Harper breaking another election promise (income splitting). 2 What is he doing about an open revolt in his senior caucus. 3 Why is Flaherty being thrown under the bus or does Steve not need a reason anymore. 4 the Senate scandal is not anywhere near dead as Wisen predicted. 5 We are getting muted signals from Flaherty re income splitting, Negative signals from Harper and positive signals from Kenny and several other ministers. 6 Have the wheels finally come off the bus or is this just another fine example of extremely incompetent leadership? Come on boys lets discuss the current mess in our Federal government. I also want to remind you two no BS fantasy stories will be accepted.
David Poluck 2/14/2014 10:00:41 AM Report
Love you too Bobby!
flyhawk25 2/14/2014 10:14:31 AM Report
When the votes are counted we'll know exactly how the people feel.
Until then it's just wishful thinking from both sides.
But...I'd be surprised if Hudak ever forms a government and really surprised if Harper even survives his own party's wrath.
But that's just wishful thinking.
Politics is often led by optics and images. It often just depends on 'feelings' and not reason so anything is possible.
Sadly for the provincial Tories Hudak's image is not very good in the media.In Harper's case his record is starting to cling to him like a bad odor.
Voters may fear the alternative but in the end most folks will ask themselves - are we better off today than 4 years ago?
Bobby Nerves 2/14/2014 10:26:27 AM Report
Don't get to excited about the elections. The NDP had to pick one election and dump all their resources there. They'd picked Niagara and the Unions cut a lot of cheques and sent more volunteers to Niagara than what we can think about.
They knew they couldn't scratch the surface in Thornhill as it's a majority Jewish community with a large percentage of Acydic jewish and with the last trip of Harper to Israel... do you think anyone else than the cons had a chance there.
Now... to win a seat and push an election in Ontario, that's a long distance and now I think the Chrysler demand for government money will have a different taste as the cons are all for it, but the liberals may play a hard one, tell them NO and forget about it. Such a movement will kick hard with both, the NDP and the cons, the first for money from membership and the second for political interest, and money also, of course.
Coalitions is the work of the day, but the Premier shouldn't be there, I agree, but then, who?
I think the Unions collect every day in dues and everything else, around four million dollars. But even with that dough, and the dislike of Ontario about Hudak and the Liberals, they may push, but there is no way they can handle an election and if they do, the cons are for a loss.
We are all fed up and that's not good.
Grump 2/14/2014 10:30:44 AM Report
Sparks7 I caught your post re fishing at Garson's Farm and yes they were really nice folks. You must have come from Korah or Buckley or around those neighbourhoods, a later edition to me of course.
Wisenheimer 2/14/2014 10:42:19 AM Report
Grump you little Pinocchio. Income splitting was to be in the next budget once it's in surplus.
Flaherty has cooled to the idea because it involves only older, more affluent folks like you. (not much bang for the buck).
But as he indicated last night on CBC he does what he's told.
You really need to read more.
Wisenheimer 2/14/2014 10:51:01 AM Report
"Liberal Majority".. now that really deserves a hearty laugh.
TP .. do that yuk yuk thing you do, that you saw on "Count Floyd", 25 years ago.
Grump 2/14/2014 10:51:11 AM Report
Wisen keep digging ,you're proving my point. By the way it was Harper who appeared to have cooled on the idea. All these mixed signals are not helping their brand any or making him look competent.
Wisenheimer 2/14/2014 10:52:02 AM Report
You nailed it Bobby!
Wisenheimer 2/14/2014 10:52:39 AM Report
Grump .. get an original thought!
flyhawk25 2/14/2014 11:11:48 AM Report
All this talk of union funds being used in elections.
Does anyone have numbers and proof?
theprotector 2/14/2014 11:12:55 AM Report
just wait! Voting is not about parties anymore, the conservatives have perm. blurred the lines! Its about who the public likes, its nothing more than a popularity vote. People have not forgotten the Harris legacy. Wynn is a believable strong leader and I think the voting public will support her and support giving her the opportunity to clean things up. The biggest thing hurting the provincial PCs is the federal conservatives. That is an issue that most strategists in the policial arena hate, its touogh to deal with when the leading party federally is botching the country and tanking in the numbers.
Hunter101 2/14/2014 12:10:23 PM Report
PC are getting my vote come a provincial election. Wynne screwed us out of money left and right. She's the last one to get my vote.
Gurpy 2/14/2014 12:17:08 PM Report
If the conversation on this site is not "pleasing" to you, simply leave. We do as we please here in the blue room.
soowat 2/14/2014 12:31:17 PM Report
I didn't say the Conversation" wasn't pleasing. I was pointing out an opportunity for people on this site to do something nice for a child. Your response indicates that you were too lazy to read the news item or were too hard hearted to care .
BTW, a conversation is defined as an "oral exchange of sentiments, observations, opinions, or ideas." Therefore when you write something you are not having a conversation
Gurpy 2/14/2014 12:38:09 PM Report
Through your post you were pretty much implying that we are all ungrateful for our lives and that is why you`ve "encouraged" the posters to read the article about the young child! You don`t like the complaining on this site which is TOUGH! That is part of the reason people show up here day after day. We have fun and when it is no longer fun, we leave! Very simple! Oh by the way, we obviously READ the news! In case you haven`t noticed, conversation in the blue room is centered on the happenings in the political arena. Soowat, do you not read the news???
Gurpy 2/14/2014 12:39:46 PM Report
Do you support Wynne and if yes why?
Gurpy 2/14/2014 12:41:23 PM Report
Which party do you think would be capable of pulling Ontario out of the mess created by the Liberal party?
Gurpy 2/14/2014 12:43:52 PM Report
What do you want to be when you grow up??? And...which septic tank did you escape from before the snow began to fall? We want to make sure you are returned by the A.D.P.H.U. come the spring.
Wisenheimer 2/14/2014 12:47:08 PM Report
Gurp .. betcha she doesn't answer .. like Grump, only knows how to bitch, and mangle the English language.
Gurpy 2/14/2014 12:49:41 PM Report
Boy, things sure got quiet in here!!
Gurpy 2/14/2014 12:50:45 PM Report
I am 100% sure I know EXACTLY who she is! The worse case of bad news on two legs!
Javaman 2/14/2014 12:51:45 PM Report
WYNNE is actually the best "leader"...she is just caught in the wrong party. I like her...but not her parties behaviour.. For that she can thank DALTON.
Wisenheimer 2/14/2014 12:52:46 PM Report
TSX headed towards all time high of 15073. Hope you all picked up some bargains over the months.
Gurpy 2/14/2014 12:54:59 PM Report
I think you might be right! I`m not a fan of the Liberals but, she does appear to be strong and have a desire to change things. Yes, Dalton definitely screwed things up!
Wisenheimer 2/14/2014 12:58:12 PM Report
Dalton is at Harvard still teaching mush minds, that wind energy is a good deal.
Can't he just go away
soowat 2/14/2014 12:58:50 PM Report
Wow, that is a quantum leap to an conclusion. Anyway don't do anything to help,and go about your heartless little life.
Gurpy 2/14/2014 1:06:20 PM Report
Don`t you have quilting to do??? Gossip to spread???
Gurpy 2/14/2014 1:07:22 PM Report
Where the heck is dust today?
Gurpy 2/14/2014 1:09:29 PM Report
Protector my little valentine! NOT! You asked what I wanted and never got back to me! You never, never ditch a woman before even laying eyes on her right before Valentines Day!! Better luck next year pal!
theprotector 2/14/2014 1:13:34 PM Report
but the day isnt over and its almost at the magic number!!
theprotector 2/14/2014 1:16:11 PM Report
and besides it took you 3 hours to respond to my inquiry. Im not complaining but that is a long time dont you think? I am willing to give you another chance ... lol
theprotector 2/14/2014 1:16:36 PM Report
and well unless zing is around
theprotector 2/14/2014 1:16:53 PM Report
steelworker 2/14/2014 1:18:31 PM Report
Gurpy old tool: Conservatives come from the swamp and Liberals come from the septic tank. I'm a conservative. Get stats or Fly to explain the rest of this to you.
Gurpy 2/14/2014 1:19:24 PM Report
I have another chance?? That is soooo sweet of you! You just might be my valentine after all!! How much time do I have to respond? I didn`t deliberately make you wait 3hrs. Had to take care of a few things.
Gurpy 2/14/2014 1:20:47 PM Report
One more thing...who is "ZING?"
Gurpy 2/14/2014 1:21:52 PM Report
TURD FACE!! Crawl back on the bench in the lunch room and go nighty nights!
theprotector 2/14/2014 1:22:42 PM Report
a steelworker conservative who only has a job because of corperate handouts from the non-conservative governments in the past - nice play!
Gurpy I do support Wynne she appears to be a strong thoughtful leader who conveys a message of doing what is best for the province and although tasked with cleaning up the previous leaders mess she will succeed.
theprotector 2/14/2014 1:24:44 PM Report
zing was a regular poster but now he/she simply lurks in the shadows waiting to pounce on the injustice of posting sexual references involving women. There seems to be an issue there but yet always wants to get that number...go figure!
Gurpy 2/14/2014 1:26:12 PM Report
Is the conversation"appealing" to you????LOLLOLOLOLOL
Gurpy 2/14/2014 1:27:19 PM Report
You don`t know if Zing is a male or female? Yikes!!!
theprotector 2/14/2014 1:33:18 PM Report
nope I dont, just like we dont know if steelworker is an ape or a pile of dog crap!
Wild Turkey 2/14/2014 1:35:40 PM Report
Hey Gurpy---Quick--someone's breaking into your garage!!!!!!!
steelworker 2/14/2014 2:02:16 PM Report
Welcome to "The Gurpy/Protector Show" starring two foul-mouthed half-wits.
cathyh 2/14/2014 2:06:56 PM Report
Wisenheimer: Dalton is "teaching at Harvard" and where are you? Why you're posting online @ Soo Today. Who should go away?
Gurpy 2/14/2014 2:08:04 PM Report
Nobody would break into that garage.Trust me!
protector, I`m still trying to figure out WHAT steelworker is!!I`m confused!
STEELWORKER You leave my valentine protector alone! You`re just jealous!
theprotector 2/14/2014 2:13:50 PM Report
steelworker is still trying to figure out what steelwork is...
Gurpy 2/14/2014 2:16:25 PM Report
good one! Lol
cathyh 2/14/2014 2:48:14 PM Report
Why aren't the feds supporting the ring of fire? Billions of $$ to be made with spinoffs that could lift the 1st nation communities in that area out of poverty. Sault Ste. Marie, on down the line to Sudbury would benefit with spinoffs. I don't understand.
flyhawk25 2/14/2014 3:06:09 PM Report
cathyh...you're not the only one.
Neither do I.
steelworker 2/14/2014 3:15:40 PM Report
... because the Ring of Fire is a provincial problem.
Grump 2/14/2014 3:23:34 PM Report
cathyh It really simple it's not on Harper's agenda because Banks good, Oil really good, anything else bad. Simple minds need to keep it simple, which is exactly why certain posters of the Conservative persuasion post the simple minded crap that they do. Wisen I asked a number of questions and obviously you don't have the answers because all I read from you is dumb assed garbage that has not one damn thing to do with my questions. This is your chance to prove you are actually bright. Go for it.
Grump 2/14/2014 3:29:27 PM Report
Steelworker it is only a Provincial problem because your hero Steve is too damn broke to step up as he should and this is Ontario not Alberta. If there was any chance that he would be around to see it get going he would be there waddling up with his fat butt and outstretched hand. Time to crawl back into the tank.
steelworker 2/14/2014 3:37:37 PM Report
...being a little self-descriptive are we. Try building a highway all the way to the Ring of Fire without having eco-terrorists plus the local inhabitants sabotaging the efforts every step of the way. The idiot Liberals let a golden opportunity slip through their hands because Wynne doesn't know where Northern Ontario is. All she and her idiot minions can do now is deflect.
Gurpy 2/14/2014 3:50:16 PM Report
I just noticed the time! I almost made you wait 3hrs again! Meet me in the red room at 7:00pm. Don`t tell the others!
Wild Turkey 2/14/2014 3:56:21 PM Report
Ring of Fire is in an isolated part of our great province.It will take a herculean effort to build a road, let alone a railroad up to it.
The developer doesn't want to put the money into this infrastructure,and neither gov't has the funds right now to do it either.
I don't think the F.N. have anything to do with it, as the route can be planned to by-pass any existing F.N.territory.Resources are a Provincial responsibility,but with the fine state of affairs at the moment nothing is going to happen any time soon.
Meanwhile, let the blame game begin.
BIG BROTHER 2/14/2014 4:18:57 PM Report
Interesting how Harper is up to his neck involved in the Fort Mac tar sands, but nary a word on the Ring.
Let the companies build the road aND LEAVE THE TAXPAYER OUT OF IT. Corporate welfare.
BIG BROTHER 2/14/2014 4:18:57 PM Report
Interesting how Harper is up to his neck involved in the Fort Mac tar sands, but nary a word on the Ring.
Let the companies build the road aND LEAVE THE TAXPAYER OUT OF IT. Corporate welfare.
steelworker 2/14/2014 4:33:04 PM Report
Nice stutter. As to bypassing F.N. territory they would be blocking the road in their latest extortion attempts. Just look at our new highway to the east.
BIG BROTHER 2/14/2014 4:35:34 PM Report
Learn the difference between a Treaty and extortion. It is our government doing the extorting.
soowat 2/14/2014 4:36:17 PM Report
Is GURPY an acronym for God you Are Pathetically yellow
Yellow of course being a synonym for gutless or cowardly
Wild Turkey 2/14/2014 4:47:56 PM Report
That road is on their land.First Nations are The Feds responsibility.The O.P.P. have no jurisdiction there, unless they have an agreement with Garden River, which I doubt.
You think we've got problems up here?Take a good look at Caledonia.The O.P.P. can't do anything, and the Feds won't do anything.Bad situation.How to fix it?Negotiate and fulfil your obligations,Govt. of Canada (Crown)
steelworker 2/14/2014 4:51:44 PM Report
Breaking the law is breaking the law. Caledonia was a mess because of the provincial governments kid gloves approach.
mallet 2/14/2014 5:56:34 PM Report
I understood there was a railway up to Moosenee, and a winter/ice road up to the villages along the James Bay coast. So the "ring of fire" could be accessed, however the companies need F N permission to mine the area as it is in their reserve lands from what I understand. Now as to why the deal to start the smelter and other issues you would have to talk to the government agencies concerned, but you only need one of the parties concerned to nix it and everything goes south, but I would hazard a guess it is something to do with money!!
Gurpy 2/14/2014 5:57:58 PM Report
Get a life! You cannot come into the blue room and expect to CONTROL what happens here! We are doing just fine without your INSANITY! Run along!
right wing 2/14/2014 6:31:20 PM Report
What would be the point of addressing anything that you post on politics. No matter what anybody else posts your typical, predictable come back is always "B.S."
right wing 2/14/2014 6:33:06 PM Report
Grump is Gurpy your wife by chance.....
Gurpy 2/14/2014 6:38:27 PM Report
Lol I`m not grumps wife silly! Lol
Grump 2/14/2014 6:45:18 PM Report
rw No she is not but I really figured Dust 2 had to be your son. Obviously you don't have those answers either and since BS is prohibited you sweethearts resort to smart assed comments. Time for you and Wisen to go get a life.
Gurpy 2/14/2014 6:47:54 PM Report
Funny you made that comment about dust! i was thinking the same thing. My youngest and I use to argue ALMOST similar to dust and I. Kids! Lol
Wisenheimer 2/14/2014 6:50:21 PM Report
There are Grandmothers all over, that are ashamed of the comments on this subject.
Different Grandmothers are ashamed for different reasons.
Grump 2/14/2014 6:50:39 PM Report
If you neo-cons hope to see power again you have to unload Hudak and Harper. With a wise pair of replacements you would at least stand a chance. I expect in Harper's case a Palace coup is already being planned. Gee who would have thought!
soowat 2/14/2014 7:20:43 PM Report
God you Are Pathetically yellow-aka gurpy
Just for the record,I was posting here long before your pathetic ass ever came into this room.
right wing 2/14/2014 7:25:59 PM Report
I didn't need it but thanks for proving my point.
I have a great life thanks and have decided it shall no longer include exchanges with you until we get closer to the elections.
I'm sure you don't really care.
Then we will see what is what.
I believe you are full of shit when it comes to politics and you think likewise of me.
Time to go steam the king crab....
Grump 2/14/2014 7:33:45 PM Report
rw That's fair ,I expect we both need a time out.
flyhawk25 2/14/2014 7:53:55 PM Report
Amen to that.