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View Room Comments for Monday, Feb. 3 2014

Monday, February 03, 2014   by: The Soap BoxWelcome to the View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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Just Curious 2/3/2014 6:05:54 AM Report

Wow !!I beat everyone on today.. Damn dogs....LOL.:)
Just Curious 2/3/2014 6:30:45 AM Report

@ Shakespeare; Just checking the archives and saw yours and Status' reply to Dust 2. I have to agree wholeheartedly. I'm not from here originally either but no matter where I go to visit or live it's just not home. The trip back here is always great.. Never did hunt and haven't fished in over a half century but there's just something about this area that drew me when I decided to leave Southern Ontario. Still the only place I want to be...:).
David Poluck 2/3/2014 6:34:36 AM Report

Good Morning!
Mac nicely written column!
Bobby Nerves 2/3/2014 7:31:45 AM Report

Statusquo must be wondering if Bruno Mars was thinking in someone when he'd open his presentation with "Locked out of Heaven"

It's not my case, because everything is paid in this world, and I have Mastercard.
Jimssm 2/3/2014 7:48:52 AM Report


If you used Mastercard you haven't 'paid'.

.....just sayin.....
Wild Turkey 2/3/2014 7:48:57 AM Report

The best part of "Mac's Column" is the comments section.This last one is informative.The one before that, is hilarious.
Bobby Nerves 2/3/2014 8:08:29 AM Report

It wouldn't be my concern in the Thereafter.

Should I add a tip?

BIG BROTHER 2/3/2014 8:46:05 AM Report

Wild Turkey,
You're right....they are hilarious. Mark sure gives it to Mac. And maybe rightfully so.

That is the beauty of being centrist. You can take the best of all ideas and use them. Something wrong with that concept when you are locked in to the fringes, both right and left. Mulcair is claiming that Trudeau stole his idea, but Mulcair had no Senators to dis-associate himself from. Harper is knocking Trudeau for the move, but is presenting no ideas himself. And to do the same as Trudeau, he becomes a follower, when he is supposed to be the leader.

Pawn takes queen!!!
flyhawk25 2/3/2014 9:36:06 AM Report say 'centrist' on here is going to cause concern for some who see the world in absolutes.
But that's what gets us in the mess we're in.
Rigidity is the enemy of change.
Wild Turkey 2/3/2014 9:59:24 AM Report

A clarification---"last one" refers to the"Face your fears" piece.
Wild Turkey 2/3/2014 10:01:32 AM Report

Oops one before is "Face your fears"--anyone confused yet?
66cherokee 2/3/2014 10:30:39 AM Report

Good morning. What a beautiful day. Anyway, has anyone read "As I see it" by Mr. Headrick. Good reading. He says it as it is. The Liberal Senators are now called "Independent Liberal Senators", but will still keep their funding. All it is is just a change of name, nothing else. Mr. Trudeau is just making sure that when the Senate audit comes down he can say "We don't have Liberal Senators", that's a lot of b.s. as my uncle would say. Take the time to read it.
theprotector 2/3/2014 10:37:18 AM Report

I think it was a good move, it saves the tax payer a bit of money and hopefully it bring the senate into the netural zone where is should have always remained. It beats opening up the constitution and spending millions through meetings from prov to prov.
David Poluck 2/3/2014 11:03:52 AM Report

It saves money? Sorry I missed that. Where are the savings?
Bobby Nerves 2/3/2014 11:11:46 AM Report

I've been living in a country relatively independent in the world context. There is a democracy of two parties and many other small intentions. The power is divided in Legislative, Executive and Judicial. The Legislature has the two chambers, upper and lower and it runs kin that way since 1810. The democratic process was interrupted far too many times, always under the pretext of making it better and then it transformed in a Dictatorship. From time to time, the people elected someone who they liked, usually a center left leader, only to became a Tyrant.

Tyrants, as bloody as they can be, kept the Legislative, it didn't work for the people, but it was there. Dictatorships in the other hand, jailed everyone, the good, the bad and the ugly.

Fortunately for all readers, I don't think any of you had to keep her/his opinions or her/his beliefs for themselves for fear to be reported to the political police.

We are in a much advance society and our risk of a dictatorship or a tyranny are nil, but eliminating the Senate is not a good step, democratically speaking.

Ideally, an elected Senate will be the way to go.

bounder 2/3/2014 11:36:46 AM Report

For what it's worth.
Indian chief "Two Eagles" was asked by a white government official . You have observed the white man for 90 years, you've seen his wars and his technological advances, you've seen his progress and the damage he has done.
Chief nodded in agreement.
The official continued, "considering all these events ,in your opinion, where did the white man go wrong"?
The Chief stared at the official then replied "when white man find land, Indians running it, no taxes, no debt, plenty buffalo, plenty beaver, clean water. Women did all the work, medicine man was free.
Indian man spend all day hunting and fishing, all night making love.
The Chief leaned back and smiled, "only white man dumb enough to think he could improve on a system like that".
soowat 2/3/2014 12:10:39 PM Report


Your post of 2/3/2014 11:36:46 AM

The second best laugh I've had for awhile

First best is a tie and occurs when Steel Worker,Right Wing Wisen and that crew post anything
steelworker 2/3/2014 12:21:31 PM Report

Easily amused are we?
Wisenheimer 2/3/2014 12:26:02 PM Report

Best laugh I get is reading Soowat's tortured prose.
steelworker 2/3/2014 12:32:49 PM Report

...more gurgling from the septic tank.
Wisenheimer 2/3/2014 12:35:50 PM Report

News item .. "collisions up 35% this winter."
Cops I have encountered, ascribe it to women, driving cars too fast, while intently and intimately involved with hand held electronic devices.
Hence the push for self drive cars, so the aforementioned can never, never, be out of contact with their BFFs.
flyhawk25 2/3/2014 12:37:13 PM Report

California just turned off the water on their biggest reservoir.
Climate change?
Global warming?
Revenge of the Navaho?
Weather anomaly?
Obama's fault?
Javaman 2/3/2014 12:41:00 PM Report

None of the above, was all Rob Fords fault.
Hunter101 2/3/2014 1:08:07 PM Report

lol Wisen, you don't need to ask a cop to find out women aren't very conscientious drivers.
steelworker 2/3/2014 1:11:16 PM Report

No water in the reservoir because Oprah had to fill her tub.
theprotector 2/3/2014 1:17:47 PM Report

hey they could drain that sucker down to an inch and put oprah in it and it would still overflow!
learningaswego 2/3/2014 1:43:36 PM Report

other possible reasons for reservoir shut down:

Al Gore - voluminous amounts are required to flush Al's copious BS down the toilet. About one of Al's swimming pool's worth is needed just for one flush, the BS is that huge.
Also, Al has to water the lawns of his mansions.

On Obummer's latest Hollywood tour (a.k.a. "here's where to send your campaign cheques"), they need a lot of water for those celeb talk show hosts when they wash Obummer's feet.

right wing 2/3/2014 1:55:44 PM Report

Build more wind mills and solar farms, ban all the SUV's and air conditioning, shut down all the coal plants and oil refineries...then the water will come back... won't it?
flyhawk25 2/3/2014 2:06:23 PM Report

I have no idea.
Among other things you are the Water Expert.
That's why I asked.
So far I am underwhelmed with the responses.
steelworker 2/3/2014 2:07:29 PM Report

It's all Harpers' fault. He needs lots of water to cook those kittens.
learningaswego 2/3/2014 2:08:58 PM Report

the reservoir shut down is obviously our PM Harper's fault, isn't it?
right wing 2/3/2014 2:13:53 PM Report

I gave the standard enviro-wacko left wing answer and it's still not pleasing some I guess.
right wing 2/3/2014 2:16:17 PM Report

A drought!!!! OMG....
A tornadoe!!!! OMG....
A flood!!!!! OMG....
Cold record setting temperatures !!!!! OMG....

Climate change it's all climate change...OMG !!!!! what are we going to do....
right wing 2/3/2014 2:18:40 PM Report

...bunch of enviro-whacko nutjobs.
flyhawk25 2/3/2014 2:19:52 PM Report

Oh I get it. I think. The ten responses from the Sons of the Swamp were thoughtful researched answers to a legitimate question.
Why is it happening?
steelworker 2/3/2014 2:21:28 PM Report

I'm still waiting for those palm trees to show up. Suzuki promised we would have palm trees.
right wing 2/3/2014 2:25:23 PM Report

You are traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land of imagination. Next stop, a liberal hippie environmental convention!
right wing 2/3/2014 2:27:40 PM Report

No, you don't "get it", you never will...

noun: drought; plural noun: droughts

a prolonged period of abnormally low rainfall; a shortage of water resulting from this.
synonyms: dry spell, lack of rain, shortage of water
T-rat 2/3/2014 2:28:17 PM Report

Steely: the palm trees are out in front of Wacky Wings on Great Northern Road. You really gotta get out more.
Just Curious 2/3/2014 2:34:20 PM Report

I think I heard somewhere that Californians were second only to Canada for wasting water.. It's beginning to look like water isn't such a renewable resource and people need to smarten up. I follow Mallets line of thinking, having been raised in an area where you bought water by the truck load.. If it's brown, flush it down.. If it's yellow, let it mellow.. standard procedure around my place, even here in town..
theprotector 2/3/2014 2:43:19 PM Report

here we go, right wing unleashed! Totally clueless about what is happening outside his little bubble and denies everything except profit and the bible LOL!!
Grump 2/3/2014 2:48:01 PM Report

I certainly don't understand why we have problems in this world since you neo-cons have all the answers to everything. The only answer that makes any sense to me is that you fellows are full of B.S. and don't know squat or all these problems would be fixed by now. LMAO.
David Poluck 2/3/2014 2:48:25 PM Report

Taxpayers' lobby wants $13B in spending cuts to balance Ontario books in 2014

TORONTO - The Canadian Taxpayers Federation urged the Ontario government Monday to slash $13 billion in spending to balance the books in 2014 and start paying down some of the province's record debt.

Ontario's debt doubled under 10 years of Liberal rule to $272.8 billion, which cost $10.6 billion this year just to pay the interest, said CTF director Candice Malcolm.
right wing 2/3/2014 2:49:49 PM Report

Well Grump you should find a way to harness all the energy you use LYAO...
right wing 2/3/2014 2:53:45 PM Report

David Polluck

Spending cuts...good luck.
The wailing and moaning will be heard from coast to coast.
The finger pointing will start and we will hear how every single program and study is paramount to our survival...we'll all certainly perish if they are cut.
Grump 2/3/2014 3:04:46 PM Report

David P. the debt we should be concerned about is the Federal one standing a whisker off 691 Billion dollars. close to half of which Harper has put on with his give aways and eight years of deficits. Not to make any excuses for the Provincial Liberals as they too pooched the pup.
Grump 2/3/2014 3:08:08 PM Report

rw and the Federal debt was run up with Harper and crew making the cuts so go figure. The only crying I have heard is you neo-cons crying about the Province and not one bad word about Harper.
Wild Turkey 2/3/2014 3:09:23 PM Report

If The Anasazi, and Maya were still around, they would tell you about prolonged periods of drought, lasting from 200 to 400 years.They ran out of water during that period, and had to move.
Right about now, real estate looks like a good investment. We have lots of vacant land , and a good % of the earth's fresh water supply.
right wing 2/3/2014 3:15:02 PM Report

Wild Turkey

That can't be...did they find drawings on the walls of the caves depicting SUV's.....
Gurpy 2/3/2014 3:15:25 PM Report

There you go again! Mentioning the bible when I`m not even in the blue room! That`s it! Off to church you go mister!
learningaswego 2/3/2014 3:22:29 PM Report

Spending cuts? OMG no - people will be starving in the streets.
Just ask any public sector union "leader".
right wing 2/3/2014 3:26:15 PM Report

...yes Grump and Ontario's share of the federal debt raises the debt-to-GPP ratio to 82%.
Quebec's is around 52%, B.C. around 19% and some of the other provinces around the 30 to 35%.
So what was that you were saying.....
right wing 2/3/2014 3:29:32 PM Report


...but the scientists are getting strangled or muzzled or maybe something worse....
As an example that archeological site that was being unearthed on the East coast for the past 17 years and funding was suddenly cut off...we might never know who lived there.
learningaswego 2/3/2014 3:58:34 PM Report

What - you mean that critical "research" for 9 years running with 42 people on the public payroll, investigating cross-gendered plankton behaviour on the third Tuesday of months ending in "er" when Al Gore has passed wind...won't be funded????
David Poluck 2/3/2014 3:59:07 PM Report

RW..spending cuts are possible if there is the political will to do so. I for one am always bothered when I see government try to spend their way out of the hole on our backs.
I ask the current methods employed of continued raising of taxes sustainable?
None of us could run our households fiscally the way that governments do.

Just released..

How are we doing on the municipal level?
right wing 2/3/2014 4:06:15 PM Report

David Poluck

As am I but anytime any government attempts to make cuts there is the "great idea but don't do it here."
right wing 2/3/2014 4:08:30 PM Report

David Poluck

I just sent that link to my accountant, he'll get back to me.....
shakespeare 2/3/2014 4:18:03 PM Report

"...did they find drawings on the walls of the caves depicting SUV's....."

Against my better judgement, I did chuckle.
Just Curious 2/3/2014 5:02:21 PM Report

@rw, that would be drawings of 6-horse chariots instead of the 2-horse , less gassy model...That was funny and I can appreciate a good laugh, don't get much to laugh about any more...LOLOL..:)
Hunter101 2/3/2014 5:20:15 PM Report

JC, how can you say something stupid like "water isn't a renewable resource?"

I thought I had heard it all. Then you say something totally against science. Now it all makes sense.
shakespeare 2/3/2014 5:30:51 PM Report

Hunter: I think you need to re-read JC's post. He said "such" and he is absolutely right. The point is that many have taken for granted a never-ending supply and quite clearly in California, it is not being renewed right now.
lookaround 2/3/2014 5:47:38 PM Report

Gurpy these people on here preach the Bible but they don't live the intent of the Bible. Share and love one another. If you are Conservative well sharing is as alien as E.T.
Gurpy 2/3/2014 6:05:39 PM Report

How can you know someone just from a few posst? Anyone can quote the bible. Anyone can claim to be a certain way. How would you know the difference without ever meeting or getting to know them? It`s impossible! Most of us in the blue room are conversing with complete strangers that we will never truly know.
Gurpy 2/3/2014 6:07:23 PM Report

typo, should read posts.
Once again, no one on this site truly knows how the posters live unless they are personal friends etc.
irishfey 2/3/2014 6:08:49 PM Report

Bounder.. Chief Two Eagles had it right. The only other system that would have worked would be The Ten Commandents.. now that " Guy" had all the basis covered!!... Lookaround...The only one that could " walk the walk " would be Jesus!.. Yes some preach the Word, but don"t follow it,is because we are still in our sinful earthly bodies and we could never measure up. That IS why Christ came, to take away the sins that we can"t!... Not too hard to figgure out,, but that"s just MY opinion.... Done on this topic today... Have a great night folks...
mallet 2/3/2014 6:12:34 PM Report

R W, Grump, Shakespeare...

I have the solution to California's water problem... Just build a big, in fact humonous pipeline from England to California and pay for the cost of pumping England's flood waters away. I am sure those Limeys will appreciate having dry feet for a while, and the celebs and others will be able to go to the karzee and flush again... This idea will provide plenty of work, both sides of that salty pond, and they (the yanks) can put a off pipe to the mississippi and wont need to flich our water any more from the great lakes... and to appease the enviromentalists damn up the the Chicago sewage canal and solve the Asian carp problem once and for all...
Grump 2/3/2014 6:17:15 PM Report

rw my point was that in spite of cutting everything in sight your for the average Canadian your hero Harper has run up a hell of a debt. Also the Provincial figures that you threw in to muddy the water are total B.S.
irishfey 2/3/2014 6:20:05 PM Report

Gurpy.. you are right on that, but sometimes a persons message tells of their way of life.... I once lived across the road from an older couple that were considered the " pillars " of the Church, hah!! You get to know the person well when you live that close. The Man was a nice fellow, but the Wife was the type that came home from Church, kicked the dog and put down and insulted the Man at every turn.. a real bit**!.. Two faced as heck also. Since they ( her )played a big part in the Church, it sickened me and i stopped going.....
Grump 2/3/2014 6:37:58 PM Report

Mallet if the Brits can't figure out how to make it worth 100 US per barrel you won't get the pipeline. Nice try though.
Hunter101 2/3/2014 7:18:14 PM Report

shakespeare, wells dry up. The same goes for a reservoir.

It just means the water has gone elsewhere.
flyhawk25 2/3/2014 7:21:31 PM Report

Hunter 101...oh my.
You might want to change your online name to one that is not the same as your IQ.
Gurpy 2/3/2014 7:23:23 PM Report

I`m fighting the desire to stop going! I know exactly what you are talking about! One screws up and we all look like hypocrites! No one can ever rob me of my beliefs. That part is firmly planted! This past week has been heat breaking for me! "someone" screwed up! I`ll leave it at that!
Grump 2/3/2014 7:24:05 PM Report

Fly yes but he didn't put the decimal point in. lol
David Poluck 2/3/2014 7:28:21 PM Report

RW..When you get an answer e mail me at
The finance group is looking forward to reviewing the documentation as well.
Good to see a change we requested last year actually happening so that the community can review the information in a timely manner and interact with our elected representatives.

Change is good.
Grump 2/3/2014 7:28:56 PM Report

Gurpy/ Irish Fey Don't let anyone put you off your Church, that's a cop out. it matters not what someone else does or doesn't do, it's what you do that matters.
Gurpy 2/3/2014 7:32:48 PM Report

Thank you for responding!
I don`t want to give to many details away. This was someone I supposebly knew. And yes, you are right. It`s no reason to stop attending and I will go back. Just not right now. I need some time to digest and heal.
Hunter101 2/3/2014 7:36:16 PM Report

fly, don't be a douchebag and do some research. Nothing lasts forever. The earth is ever-changing and it's not going to stand still for you morons.

Global warming and the "we are killing ourselves" jargon is really old. Droughts happen... Get over it.
shakespeare 2/3/2014 7:44:23 PM Report

Hunter 101 "Nothing lasts forever". So it seems that you are agreeing with JC, whom you called "stupid" that things are not as renewable as we thought A simple, "I was wrong and didn't read your post correctly and I apologise for calling you stupid" would have been sufficient. You are now digging yourself in.
flyhawk25 2/3/2014 8:01:40 PM Report is the malaise of the swamp.
Personally I am crushed.
To be called a 'douche bag' by a Swamper is almost more than I can abide.
I think I may have to renew my membership in the Conservative Party to help me to endure the caustic wit of someone so erudite.
lookaround 2/3/2014 8:10:24 PM Report

The Southern hemisphere has experienced the worst droughts from Australia Asia South American and Africa since records have been kept. A photographic team has in the last 20 years measured and photographed all glaciers both mountainous and continental. All have receded or are now only a photographic memory. Notably, species such as the maple have started seeding in a more northernly direction. The mixed deciduous forest is now replacing the the St Lawrence lowland vegetation. The polar caps have receded. The Muldives shoreline has shrunken as the sea level has risen. Numerous coral reefs are now dead an effect of a warmer ocean temperature. Salinity of the Atlantic has increased as a precursor of warm currents.The Arctic Pack ice is
nearly gone allowing a future west-east nautical transportation corridor. There are more frequent and violent storms as recorded. The permafrost has slowly been melting allowing methane gas to disperse. There is an enormous amount of humans placing their head in the sand. Not sure why?
lookaround 2/3/2014 8:12:48 PM Report

Hunter101 I hear you gurgling..again. Too much methane can harm the intellectual portion of the brain.
Grump 2/3/2014 8:23:22 PM Report

lookaround, Sadly far too late for those fellows, the damage has been done. It has become so bad that they are now all Harperettes. LMAO.
Hunter101 2/3/2014 8:37:41 PM Report

lookaround, and what makes you so sure that we are to blame for all of these happenings?

Prove to me that we are the ones who are causing all of this. You can't. The whole global warming idea is a cult, a belief system, a religion if you will.

No scientific proof has been shown that directly points to human variables. All that is know is that the planet is slowly changing... as it always has and always will.

Look up when the earth had a reducing atmosphere instead of one that oxidizes. It'll blow your socks off.
lookaround 2/3/2014 8:41:53 PM Report

and you cannot prove other wise either. Visual proof
sonny that is better than rhetoric

flyhawk25 2/3/2014 9:00:20 PM Report

Relax and exhale folks and hope that they did not breed.
Wait until they find out that the world is round.
steelworker 2/3/2014 9:48:11 PM Report

Hunter 101: don't worry yourself we these inbred septic tank denizens. I like the one about the global warming freaks that went to the South pole in a ship to prove that the ice cap was melting and got stuck in the ice for a couple of weeks. Both icecaps (North and South Poles) are expanding but don't let facts stand in the way of the Suzukiites.
dust2 2/3/2014 9:56:20 PM Report

can't tell if hunter101 is an idiot or a troll.

doing something is better than doing nothing. co2 levels aren't a ruse.

don't let these retards prevent people from doing good.
nanag 2/3/2014 10:19:25 PM Report


why do you find it necessary to call someone a "retard" ?? You do know that saying that is a sign of your own insecurities right? It is so evident that you fear your own lack of intelligence will be noted by others, that you try to throw the stigma onto someone else first.
I guess you were picked on as a kid and feel big and intelligent by calling people names now.. poor baby
redranger 2/3/2014 10:24:37 PM Report

Do you ever plan to answer the question we posed yesterday?
Have you not graduated from college or uni, or have you not moved back?
Resident 2/3/2014 10:31:35 PM Report

I agree with Dusts' post!!!! With the exception of the "retards" comment. I think hell just froze over!
dust2 2/3/2014 10:32:58 PM Report

nanag, someone who ignores co2 data is a retard. whats wrong with the truth?

who says I live here too? it doesn't even matter rofl
Resident 2/3/2014 10:34:36 PM Report

Actually, the "idiot or troll" comment was also unnecessary. (I don't think I've ever agreed with hunters' posts but...)
dust2 2/3/2014 10:35:29 PM Report

I don't give out info to creepy nerds either, you remind me of the losers who complain when no name is posted on a police article. bunch of crazies
Hunter101 2/3/2014 11:01:07 PM Report

dust2, really? CO2 data? Really?!

So the stuff you breath out is harming the atmosphere? It's raising global temperatures? It's dooming our planet?

I guess that bad CO2 which trees use to live is really some terrible stuff.

Dust2, none of your posts make any sense nor do they offer anything useful.

My suggestion to you is to bite the dust.
Hunter101 2/3/2014 11:03:10 PM Report

Dust2, I bet you've been in several police articles. There's a special title morons like you get and it's "Sault Ste. Marie Specials."

Going nowhere in life but the ground.
dust2 2/3/2014 11:05:54 PM Report

I think I'm learning more towards troll than idiot

no ones that stupid
Hunter101 2/3/2014 11:07:55 PM Report

Dust2, wipe the drool off your keyboard. You won't miss the shift key every time you try to place a capital on your cheap drivel. I bet whatever septic tank you crawled out of must have got tired of you.
dust2 2/3/2014 11:09:48 PM Report

bait harder nerd lol
Hunter101 2/3/2014 11:12:27 PM Report

Steely, if we round the bunch of these buffoons up we could open a nice circus.

Don't worry though, we just have to say "free _____ ."

Offer these people free anything and they'll take it.

Dust2 can be the lion tamer (It will probably be a short career but probably his most meaningful).
Hunter101 2/3/2014 11:14:58 PM Report

Seems like you're the one who's baiting, Dolt2. I don't think theres a person on here you haven't yet called a nerd, retard, stupid or troll.
dust2 2/3/2014 11:16:49 PM Report

you done being obsessed with me yet?
Hunter101 2/3/2014 11:18:23 PM Report

Dusty, I think you might have coined your own title: the master baiter.
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