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View Room Comments for Wednesday, Jan. 29 2014

Wednesday, January 29, 2014   by: The Soap BoxWelcome to the View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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bounder 1/29/2014 6:29:53 AM Report

Good morning,
the Minister responsible for the MTO is now under fire for the lousy job his contractor is doing on the provincial highways and rightly so.Never seen that many closures in one winter.
David Poluck 1/29/2014 7:05:19 AM Report

Ex-soldiers protest impending office veterans affairs office closures

"I would like to call for Mr. Fantino's resignation — or firing," Clarke said. "Mr. Harper and his Conservatives had best be prepared for the next election. There are two (other) parties who said they'd open our offices, and (soldiers) might want to think about voting for them, but not the Conservatives."
David Poluck 1/29/2014 7:14:17 AM Report

Obama warns divided Congress that he will act alone

Standing in the House of Representatives chamber before lawmakers, Supreme Court justices and VIP guests, Obama declared his independence from Congress by unveiling a series of executive orders and decisions - moves likely to inflame already tense relations between the Democratic president and Republicans.
Jimssm 1/29/2014 7:32:19 AM Report

Good morning everyone.

Could some of the Harper defenders please come on here and explain his treatment of veterans ?
flyhawk25 1/29/2014 7:42:10 AM Report

It's called balancing their finances on the backs of the weak and vulnerable.Harper and his mob are heartless iconoclasts who are in a panic mode and don't care one bit about anything but power.
It is a neo-con trait.
Grump 1/29/2014 7:42:12 AM Report

Jimssm, If you are not big oil, big banks or right wing Reform kooks , then we are all treated equally. Will total distain. This wouldn't be so bad if he wasn't so incompetent and having no regard for anything but what he wants.
Wisenheimer 1/29/2014 7:43:32 AM Report

"State of the Union" address featured special guest Willie Robertson and of course Barrack (yes we can) Obama. A live duck and a lame Duck.
Grump 1/29/2014 7:51:01 AM Report

Good morning everyone, a bit warmer this A.M. Good morning Fly I watched a bit of Parliament on the T.V. last night with them trying to grill Harper. If this had been some gangster everyone would say he was a lying S.O.B. or he had no knowledge of the question. After his fiasco in the Middle East he can't be gone soon enough. Have a great day all.
Grump 1/29/2014 7:56:32 AM Report

Wisen I know it's hard for a moron to concentrate but if you were focused as closely on your hero Steve as you are on Obama you would get the fact that the Yanks won the draw. You can come out of Mommy's basement soon as it's starting to warm up.
Wisenheimer 1/29/2014 7:58:04 AM Report

Pounding the party in power ( Grunt, in grammar that's known as an alliteration) over it's treatment of veterans, is a well worn tactic used by those out of power to garner favor from low information voters.
It also gets partisans on here to express false outrage as they detect weakness.
You see it in spades down here with Republicans excoriating Obama over his treatment of U.S. vets. It's all dust in the wind.
You're welcome.
Grump 1/29/2014 8:01:06 AM Report

Jimssm there is your first swamper to arrive. You will notice quickly that you just get trash talk about anyone who is not a fellow swamper but never answers to our questions. Duty calls will catch it all later.
Wisenheimer 1/29/2014 8:05:52 AM Report

Grunt ... You are a classic example of what Lenin called a "useful idiot". Thought you'd want to know.
Jimssm 1/29/2014 8:10:34 AM Report


Can you give a good reason for reducing services to those who have served our country ?

You know that Repubs are quick to criticize how Obama treats Vets... why don't you hold Harper to the same standard ?
right wing 1/29/2014 8:18:30 AM Report

Great speech Obama gave last night.
Nothing like blowing the dust off of last
years speech and giving the same....a whole bunch of nothing.
right wing 1/29/2014 8:20:45 AM Report


Gosh darn've blown their cover.
...and just when Grump, the blow hard of all blow hards, was demanding "we" answer his questions.
His pulpit hammer is damn near worn out but he demands answers.....
dust2 1/29/2014 8:27:40 AM Report

the moms basement joke was pretty cringe. it's hilarious how unfunny people like Grump are on here.

also there should only be so many services for the vets. you reach a point where the government caters towards the elderly too much and it impacts the youth. the closure of these centers don't seem like a big deal. looks overblown.
Javaman 1/29/2014 8:31:10 AM Report to go !!!Will Hayes have the nerve to run again or simply slip into retirement??
right wing 1/29/2014 8:37:34 AM Report

The Canadian military fared much better under Chretien and Martin, remember the green camouflage in a brown desert.
theprotector 1/29/2014 8:39:30 AM Report

hmm still no response from the right about vets. Funny they remain so quiet when they know the clock is ticking and they can no longer justify the actions of the harp
Spellchecker 1/29/2014 8:43:44 AM Report

Dust2, that was quite the set-to that you had with Gurpy under one of those news stories. You go Guy, lol.
theprotector 1/29/2014 8:44:32 AM Report

better than ours spelly??
Spellchecker 1/29/2014 8:49:47 AM Report

Ours, theprotector? It seems to me that comes mostly one way. I try to ignore your vitriol for the most part.
redranger 1/29/2014 8:50:54 AM Report

"off of" ,semi-literate.
right wing 1/29/2014 8:55:18 AM Report


Thanks but "so what" as in "I don't really care".
Wild Turkey 1/29/2014 9:07:51 AM Report

So Premier Wynne gives the Hog Industry 2 million to fight some virus, that was trucked in with the piggies from the U.S.A.
Harper( who recently replaced Billy Preston as the fifth Beetle)doled out
many millions on his recent overseas jaunt.
Lets hope they can come up with the lousy 2 million to keep the railroad going , while somebody comes up with a lasting solution.
It will be a total shame to lose this World Class treasure.
steelworker 1/29/2014 9:11:08 AM Report

As to the veterans affairs news story: I don'e think that we have had a Veterans Affairs Office in the Sault for quite some time. A Veterans Affairs worker would come down from Thunder Bay and set up appointments at the Legion. When my father was dying Veterans Affairs from Thunder Bay could not do enough for him or my family. We even had a woman from the Thunder Bay office call bi-weekly to check on his health. When he passed away this woman offered her heart-felt condolences and told me that they were losing too many vets too soon. I think that between the remaining Veterans Affairs offices left and the Legion (also family members have to step up to the plate as well) veterans will be taken care of. This whole story of abused vets sounds like political posturing to me.
flyhawk25 1/29/2014 9:12:12 AM Report

What is overblown is a soldier hit by an IED who dies. Or comes home maimed and we don't give them the respect and treatment they deserve.
Your selfish response just got you a place in the swamp with all the other selfish bastards who love freedom but want it at discount prices.
Bobby Nerves 1/29/2014 9:15:59 AM Report

Isaiah 5:22

Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine, and valiant men in mixing strong drink, and retired to St. Joseph rock above the water.

Big Bad Bob 1/29/2014 9:25:07 AM Report

dust 2
Let us hope that, in “impacting the youth”, some of the patriotic courage of our vets will rub off on it, just in case we need the youth some day to fight a war for us as the vets did.
dust2 1/29/2014 9:29:30 AM Report

@flyhawk25, take a chill pill. you're way too raged over some political garbage. there's clearly reasons why these centers are going away, maybe you should look for those reasons. or just get upset more. you seem to enjoy it
right wing 1/29/2014 9:35:22 AM Report


Amen to that.
My late father served overseas in WW-2.
When he got ill and was dying the Veteran affairs was absolutely awesome.
There was no lack of government support programs.
right wing 1/29/2014 9:40:23 AM Report


How about you give some real examples of how our vets are coming home and being disrespected and not getting the treatment they deserve.
No ones and twos...this must be happening on a large scale, right.
You must mean disrespected like your generation did to the Vietnam vets...spitting on them and calling them baby killers...especially disgusting behavior from those that dodged and never even served.
theprotector 1/29/2014 9:41:39 AM Report

really steel worker? Because you may of had some help you think the whole system is great and the rest is simply lies and mistruths for polical posturing? Its all an anti-harper conspirsy? And for you to tell families to "step up"? Come on I hope you are not being serious! If you are you have your head so far up your....
steelworker 1/29/2014 9:47:41 AM Report

Look stupid; I'll go get some crayons and draw you some nice pictures. I never said the system was perfect (no government-run program is) but in our case it worked. It works for the vet who lives beside me and an uncle up in Timmins. I really think you should shut your piehole,get moomy to dress you and go outside and play in the snow for awhile. It looks like the lid fell off the septic tank a little early today and the turds are starting to rise.
dust2 1/29/2014 9:57:02 AM Report

> Its all an anti-harper conspirsy?

People are pretty biased, especially here. they complain all day about harper, their tax dollars, and how bad the government is.

so yes, it kind of is
right wing 1/29/2014 10:03:00 AM Report


flyhawk25 1/29/2014 10:09:53 AM Report

You have a new Swamp convert.
The water just got muddier.
steelworker 1/29/2014 10:13:19 AM Report

Time to put the lid back on the septic tank.
dust2 1/29/2014 10:15:16 AM Report

What water? The pool filled with your Harper hate and pity party for the vets? You're a political nutjob, blinded by an inflated ego and extreme passion for whatever left or right party you're a part of. Stop expecting governments to solve problems and stop complaining about your tax dollars. you contribute next to nothing compared to the collective efforts of everyone else, so stop acting like your minor payment to the government should entitle you to dictate and complain at every decision the government makes.
steelworker 1/29/2014 10:17:55 AM Report

David Poluck 1/29/2014 10:19:34 AM Report

Trudeau boots senators from Liberal caucus in bid to restore Senate independence

Trudeau's announcement will likely come as a shock to some Liberal senators, who were given no advance warning. Many of them have long, careers of service to the Liberal party. Their ranks include senators who've run national election campaigns, overseen Liberal party headquarters, served previous prime ministers and been elected as MPs.
learningaswego 1/29/2014 10:20:06 AM Report

dust2 nails it!
learningaswego 1/29/2014 10:26:08 AM Report

It's okay, the Liberal Senators won't mind being punted, because after all, look at the ManChild Tur-Doh!'s vast credentials:
-he was an occasional/supply Drama teacher for a year or two;
-he apparently took a few engineering courses, but didn't (more likely couldn't) cut it, so ditched that;
-he has nice hair, according to some;
-he was born with a silver spoon, and inherited a million or two when his father passed.

So, there ya have it - how could some aging, long-serving Senators not like being punted, especially by someone as "qualified" as young Tur-Doh! ?
Javaman 1/29/2014 10:29:15 AM Report

Why do folks take everything on this site so seriously? It is just a bunch of old retired men chewing on a daily basis about something in cyber space. I guess it replaces meeting for coffee at the mall. There are some really BITTER folks on this site. Just relax and respect what others say...even if you disagree with it. Calling contributors SWAMP PEOPLE is rather immature to say the least.
right wing 1/29/2014 10:31:25 AM Report

Talk about blind siding your own and throwing them under the bus...and the septic turds on here want to call Harper a control freak.
This is nothing more than a political move on Trudeau's part.
Of course it has nothing to do with isolating his party of senate criticism.
The shiny pony is not that smart.
I have to say I am a tad impressed...I didn't believe that the young imp had any of his late fathers cut throat tactics but is seems he does.

right wing 1/29/2014 10:32:38 AM Report

Javaman's O.K. we get to call them septic turds.
This is a new one but I like it.
Wild Turkey 1/29/2014 10:35:20 AM Report

Learning----Looks like you totally missed the point.
Those Gentlemen are still Senators.They no longer have to vote along party lines, but rather they can vote for what they feel is best.That is how the Senate is supposed to work.
Look at it like it is one small step toward Senate Reform.
right wing 1/29/2014 10:38:08 AM Report

Wild Turkey

That is how Trudeau is trying to make it appear.
bounder 1/29/2014 10:39:55 AM Report

HWY 17 open ,not for long more snow tomorrow.
right wing 1/29/2014 10:46:22 AM Report


One last thing, I take being called a swamp person as a compliment.
Liberals aren't smart enough to know how to really insult somebody.
Gurpy 1/29/2014 10:47:18 AM Report

"A pity party for the vets?"
You dust2 are an arrogant, ungrateful little punk who should have his butt kicked off this site! SHAME ON YOU!
dust2 1/29/2014 10:49:20 AM Report


right wing 1/29/2014 10:53:10 AM Report


Speaking of folks that should be kicked off of sites.....
You must have rested up after the pounding that you took yesterday.
Gurpy 1/29/2014 10:56:19 AM Report

right wing
Why would I get kicked off? I`m not the one dishonoring vets who have sacrificed everything for our freedom!
dust2 1/29/2014 10:58:18 AM Report

I'm not dishonoring the vets you fool, I'm exposing his obvious bias towards the vets. people love playing the victim role to feed their entitlement
Gurpy 1/29/2014 10:58:19 AM Report

AND...I don`t believe enough is being done for them!!!!
Gurpy 1/29/2014 11:00:48 AM Report

Are you implying that vets are playing the "victim" after losing limbs, not to mention placing their life on the line so people like you and I could have freedom?
flyhawk25 1/29/2014 11:00:55 AM Report

I suspect that the new dust2 is a new personna adopted by an old poster.
Either the witness protection program, the petrie dish progeny of rw or Bryan Hayes's other cousin.
Nice to see that the Swamp Recruitment Program is working.Six more and they qualify for a trip to the everglades.
right wing 1/29/2014 11:01:31 AM Report


Well than tell us what you believe should be done.
...and no "go girls" are allowed.
Jimssm 1/29/2014 11:03:01 AM Report


Speaking as a vet...

You're a jerk.
right wing 1/29/2014 11:03:22 AM Report

...yes of course, anybody that disagrees with the fly is automatically under suspicion.
Welcome to the swamp...please wipe the septic turds from your boots before you enter.

dust2 1/29/2014 11:03:27 AM Report


you're just terrible at reading comprehension. I never said anything even close to what you're assuming.
Gurpy 1/29/2014 11:04:18 AM Report

dust 2
I asked you a question. Respect your elders and answer please or I will have to put you in "time out!"
Gurpy 1/29/2014 11:04:57 AM Report

dust 2
What exactly did you say???
dust2 1/29/2014 11:06:14 AM Report

oh god LOL

dude get over yourself. you're bad at reading and clearly have an agenda. I shouldn't be required to answer your stupid, stupid questions. you assumed some pretty dumb stuff from my post and want me to clear the air on what you assumed?

rofl, get a clue
right wing 1/29/2014 11:06:52 AM Report

Now that is hilarious...."what exactly did you say"....I don't know but I don't like it.
Jimssm 1/29/2014 11:07:46 AM Report

I am not sure why everyone associates vets with WW2.

I wasn't even alive in WW2 and neither were any of the others that have committed suicide lately.

...and before the right wing complains, I'm not blaming Harper, I'm blaming the GOVERNMENT.

It seems the government (Canadian and US and UK) are real quick to praise our soldiers but then won't back them up with action.
Gurpy 1/29/2014 11:07:55 AM Report

right wing
I believe the vets should be honored and their needs should be beyond met. No living in poverty simply because the government has no desire to fund these individuals who gave everything to fight for their country!
dust2 1/29/2014 11:08:04 AM Report

since you clearly need this to be laid out for you like a five year old

"Are you implying that vets are playing the "victim" after losing limbs, not to mention placing their life on the line so people like you and I could have freedom?"

no, I'm not implying that the vets are playing the victims. I never implied it, I never even came close to implying it. you took what I said and tried to put words in my mouth with gotcha-journalism questions like the one you just asked.
Wild Turkey 1/29/2014 11:09:04 AM Report

O.K.,children---first flying toaster ovens, now this---what next??????
Wisenheimer 1/29/2014 11:10:49 AM Report

Looks like we have a couple more name callers with vestigial vocabularies.
Will keep Grunt and TP company.
The deterioration is slow yet inexorable.
Jimssm 1/29/2014 11:10:51 AM Report

Trudeau just threw a curveball at the Conservatives. It's going to be very hard for the other parties to justify not matching it.
right wing 1/29/2014 11:12:58 AM Report


Where do get that "everyone" associates vets with WW-2.
Steelworker and I used personal examples of how our fathers were treated.
Should we have not.
I grew up in V.A. land.
Every single father served overseas.
They all came home, went to work and raised large families.
They had issues but given that technology provides "long distance warfare" did they not see more of the up close horrors of war than many vets do today.

theprotector 1/29/2014 11:16:18 AM Report

lol @ dust2!!!

anyone that pays any taxes or lives in Canada has the right to speak their opinion, even you (if you pay taxes)!

The government's role is to apply those dollars to keep the country moving forward and to provide services consistantly accross the board from coast to coast. I suggest perhaps you go back and read, if you can, the Constitution and those things in it with all the letters are called words, put them together and they form sentences. Just trying to help a swamp creature!!
right wing 1/29/2014 11:16:30 AM Report


No it is not.
I for one shall wait until the full senate investigation is completed.
If any of those liberal senators are caught in the cookie jar this will blow up in Trudeau's face.
I will give him points on creativity, it is a gutsy political move.
I will also wait until his senators and M.P.'s start talking to reporters with their take on it.
Spellchecker 1/29/2014 11:18:56 AM Report

Easy now Bobby. You're getting a little too personal with your Biblical offerings there. For your information, although it is really none of your business, I have had one drink of beer since November with a visit to a neighbour. Even if I was indulging let he who has no sin cast the first stone.
theprotector 1/29/2014 11:19:34 AM Report

oh come spelly, get over it, you cant expect to sit back and post without being held accountable every now and then for the regilous and racial tripe you have a tendancy to spew every so often. Geez Im over it
steelworker 1/29/2014 11:19:35 AM Report

Jimssm: Trudeau turfed his Senators because he knows that the Auditor-Generals report on Senate spending (also known as pissing-it-up-against-a-wall) is coming out and will probably show the Liberals are just as bad as some Conservatives at peeling the taxpayers. In Justins' drug-addled mind no Liberal senators=no scandal. Either way it doesn't matter because they will still be swilling at the taxpayers trough.
Jimssm 1/29/2014 11:23:04 AM Report


Apologies. I should not have used 'everyone'.

I was referring to dust2 's reference to services for the elderly, as well as the general population's definition of a 'veteran'.

...I am not elderly nor do I hang out at the Legion. (not that there's anything wrong with that)
Jimssm 1/29/2014 11:26:33 AM Report


It's still a start.

...And I don't see how it will protect the Liberals from being attached to a crooked 'Liberal' Senator.
dust2 1/29/2014 11:29:13 AM Report


your terrible passive-aggressive attitude is pretty sad, you assume I can't read or know what sentences are? pretty childish

my point was that people can sit here and complain about their tax dollars being spent all day, but that doesn't make any of them right, or entitled. oh you don't want your tax dollars being wasted on X project? too bad, you offer no benefit to anyone on the project, your opinion isn't valid nor needed, so let the people do the work. people act like they know everything, and will sit here and call the government stupid for spending decisions they made. last time I checked, most of those people talking this garbage aren't people who could balance a budget in the first place, or have any real idea on what to do if they were in the same situation.

people paying taxes act like they're entitled to make every decision for every government issue, ever. people are biased, people are entitled, and 99% of the people who pay taxes aren't even close to qualified to make a decision for anything government related.
theprotector 1/29/2014 11:32:41 AM Report

nope you are wrong, people have a voice and at anytime they can use that voice if they so choose. Does it always work, no but sometimes it does. Just because you wish to lay down and be steam rollered or sit on the side lines because you are to lazy or indifferent to take action is also your choice, however I would suggest limiting your critsims of the people on this site since you clearly could careless about this country, its policies, and your own tax dollar, now move along to another play ground!
Gurpy 1/29/2014 11:34:16 AM Report

The politicians are voted in by the people for the people. We all have a right to express our opinions on how government handles the affairs which affect us. This is not limited to the use of tax dollars.
dust2 1/29/2014 11:37:58 AM Report

both of you are pretty bad at reading

I said they can shout their opinion all they want, that doesn't make any of them right.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz lrn2read
Spellchecker 1/29/2014 11:38:20 AM Report

Hey folks, new blood in the blue room, a new batch of scrappers to spice things up a bit.
Jimssm 1/29/2014 11:38:37 AM Report


It's my right (and obligation) as a taxpayer to hold the sitting government's feet to the fire as best I can.

People like you are a government's best friend..... just sit there, pay your taxes, and shut up.
dust2 1/29/2014 11:42:21 AM Report

nope, I don't shut up, I just don't speak when I don't know all the facts. ignorance is bliss, and people love it.
Gurpy 1/29/2014 11:44:54 AM Report

dust 2
Nothing wrong with my reading as I was excempt from English and graduated from college with straight A`s!!!!
Spellchecker 1/29/2014 11:46:59 AM Report

Go get her, redranger, lol.
Jimssm 1/29/2014 11:47:49 AM Report


But....In your VERY FIRST POST, you had no problem calling the vet issue 'overblown' without knowing the facts.
dust2 1/29/2014 11:49:41 AM Report


if your reading was actually good you wouldn't be asking me stupid questions
learningaswego 1/29/2014 11:50:37 AM Report

Who is "excempt" (from the straight A student) from the "critsims" on this site? LMAO
steelworker 1/29/2014 11:50:48 AM Report

...excempt...ya right with straight "A's". It must have been Algoma U.
dust2 1/29/2014 11:53:02 AM Report


because I know how riled and upset people can get when there's services cut to vets or the elderly. people have obvious bias, and there's people who believe the vets should be catered to at a level far beyond what is necessary. it's not that I don't know the facts, it's that I know a bunch of people are going to be up in arms over information like this, without it being warranted.
dust2 1/29/2014 11:54:47 AM Report

Gurpy is the person who has an NBA contract but can't sink a foul shot.
learningaswego 1/29/2014 11:56:46 AM Report

steelworker is probably spot on, on young Tur-Doh! 's move to turf the Senators from the Liberal caucus.

There is no doubt the audit of Senator's spending will be a huge public embarassment, and Tur-Doh! and the Libs see the writing on the wall. This is just a ruse to try to distance the party from the expected wrath of the public.
theprotector 1/29/2014 12:01:53 PM Report

oh the back peddling of the dust 2 persona!
Jimssm 1/29/2014 12:02:30 PM Report



I don't expect anything more than what the government promised me when I transferred into the military. I could have done much better financially, pension-wise, benefit-wise, sanity-wise, had I stayed where I was and not decided to help my country.

...and they keep moving the goal posts.

dust2 1/29/2014 12:04:49 PM Report

rofl you're delusional. I never backpedaled anything, not my fault some dummies here can't understand the point I'm try to make
dust2 1/29/2014 12:06:43 PM Report

?"Respect your elders"

what is the average age of the posters here, freedom 55+? bunch of old timers who can't handle being told their wrong

Spellchecker 1/29/2014 12:07:19 PM Report

Dust2, welcome to Misunderstanding Central.
dust2 1/29/2014 12:10:13 PM Report

thx, going to be a fun time :]
Wicket 1/29/2014 12:16:29 PM Report

My father was also a WWII VETERAN who received great attention and service from the Thunder Bay office. When I had to take over the paperwork for him, I was also treated with kindness and respect.
HOWEVER, most people have to start thinking outside of the box in WHO they believe to be veterans. Our country's veterans are also ones who are in the 20's, 30's and 40's and need our support as individuals and collectively. No matter their age, they have served our country and us and at the same age as many of our parents did during the war(s). Many are suffering PTSD from atrocities they have witnessed which was not as prevelant in previous wars (involving innocent women and children). And no, I do not believe for one minute we are on a peace-keeping mission as the government keeps telling us.
Jimssm 1/29/2014 12:19:47 PM Report

I'm not freedom 55....

Speaking of freedom... it's interesting that Canada rates above the USA in both personal and economic freedom.

Who-da thunk it ??
Grump 1/29/2014 12:19:51 PM Report

Well one new young convert for the swampers and the whole swamp is up on their hind legs rejoicing. Now it matters not that this young convert may have a little education but has little or no understanding of what is correct behavior. I suspect that he isn't working because no serious employer would want a selfish little pr like him around. I certainly wouldn't. Dust 2 someday when you grow up, get a job that earns enough to pay taxes, you too will be concerned about your tax dollars being whizzed away with incompetence and stupidity. In the meantime it would be wise to keep your stupid opinions to yourself as you are offensive to decent folks. You fit in well with your chosen group but I can tell you that I can read a balance sheet, understand what good government should be, employ a professional workforce and certainly know what a green behind the ears punk's opinions are worth. That said since I pay more in taxes than a twit like you will ever make that it entitles me to my opinion. Ya'll have a nice day now.
Gurpy 1/29/2014 12:22:55 PM Report

dust 2
I read your posts and I`m actually starting to feel sorry for you! Your posts are full of anger and bitterness at any figure of authority! Do you have respect for ANYONE?
steelworker 1/29/2014 12:23:56 PM Report

...and the Wise and Great Grumpkin has spoken. Hear ye and tremble before the rumblings from the Great Septic Tank!!!
Gurpy 1/29/2014 12:25:54 PM Report

I am not a freedom 55 either!
Gurpy 1/29/2014 12:26:50 PM Report

Isn`t it time to go nap in the lunch room???
dust2 1/29/2014 12:27:43 PM Report

don't be butthurt over me calling out your dumb posts. don't be so butthurt you assume I have no education and I'm a child.

you guys have a dumb opinion? I'm told to ignore it. I have a dumb opinion? I'm told to stop posting

maybe I should ask the strait A graduate how to spell DELUSIONAL for you guys. but I won't since the college education clearly didn't help them
dust2 1/29/2014 12:29:00 PM Report

did the price is right now air today? it's a little heated in here
dust2 1/29/2014 12:29:18 PM Report

did the price is right not air today? it's a little heated in here*
Oldie Goldie 1/29/2014 12:33:12 PM Report

I remember very clearly during the last Election Campaign that the Conservative-lovers said we had to elect a member from the ruling party.

Well the majority did just that---now we lost the Snow Train---now the train from the Soo to Hearst and next will probably be the Agawa Canyon train---We did not get a Deep Sea Harbour and we lost some Federal jobs.

Great work by a member of the ruling party eh !
steelworker 1/29/2014 12:35:17 PM Report

Gurpy: I don't nap on the job. Besides your mom is in there hogging the bench.
Jimssm 1/29/2014 12:35:44 PM Report


A late comment on your 'bias towards the elderly' post....

The elderly have earned that bias through their hard work and the contribution they have made to this country and the world in general.

The elderly need protection and care and it is our responsibility to make sure it is done.

learningaswego 1/29/2014 12:38:30 PM Report

dust2 you have to simple it down for many of our lefty friends on here.

Even that often doesn't work, because many of them are so filled with "anti-anything-Harper" hate, that they can't hear or see anything but that. One sometimes called Grunt, can't wait to wake up each day and post on here what evils the devil incarnate Harper has
inflicted upon the nation overnight. For some it has even become an obsession bordering on a pathological condition.

The common denominator for our lefty friends on here is quite simply
"Harper IS the evil spawn of Satan, and all that ails you is in some way related to PM Harper's failings" .....never, ever, take responsibility for yourself, as it is always Harper's fault if you are: miserable, wretched, poor, ugly, fat, unemployed, or stupid."
That pretty much sums up the mantra.
dust2 1/29/2014 12:41:39 PM Report

Yeah I see a ton of Harper hate on here, it's really ridiculous. It's pretty ignorant too, oh something bad happens in Canadian government? Blame Harper!

I imagine it's a bunch of old people who have never really had their political opinion challenged. Government is filled with a lot of people running a lot of services, it's beyond stupid to pin the blame on one person like Harper. They will find a way though, the ignorant always find a way
steelworker 1/29/2014 12:45:54 PM Report

I got a nice picture of Harper chowing down on a bowl of kittens. He autographed it for me. lmao.
right wing 1/29/2014 12:45:58 PM Report


...and the greatest and most powerful of them all has spoken from the septic tank.
No wonder he calls himself Grump breathing all that methane.....
Bobby Nerves 1/29/2014 12:46:10 PM Report

Romans 12:19 - Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Romans 13:4 - For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
Oldie Goldie 1/29/2014 12:48:41 PM Report

With the Conservative majority approval we are going to lose our House Delivery of Mail.

I get my mail directly to my door by a Canada Post worker.

If anyone else delivers my mail then that is a Union busting tactic---but the Conservatives love that.

If I have to go to a Community Box filled by Contractors with low paid workers that is a change of work rules by Canada Post and is another Union-busting tactic. Again a Conservative-loved tactic.

This change by Canada Post will not take place without a major disruption of Mail Delivery and Harper will, again, have to legislate the end of the impasse---He cannot Legislate the end of a Union--That is a Human Rights Violation but rest assured that Harper will try it.

Canada Post believes the changes will save them money but it won't.
These changes will cause nothing but confusion. Canada Post said the last Mail disruption caused them a loss---as the old saying goes " they haven't seen nothing yet".
Gurpy 1/29/2014 12:49:26 PM Report

I wish my mom were there hogging the bench. She`s been gone for a number of years! Thanks anyway!
right wing 1/29/2014 12:50:32 PM Report


You made a free and personal choice to join the military did you not.
You were fully aware of what you may or may not gain from this employment were you not.
You were fully aware of the danger that you might face were you not.
Was there ever a time when a blindfold was applied while you were transported through the night to a place that you were unaware you might go to.......
dust2 1/29/2014 12:52:52 PM Report

Maybe people will realize it's 2014 and the days of sending information through paper and stamps are ending.

Bills are online, emails are online, 99% of the mail you get isn't even time sensitive. Why on earth is everyday, door-to-door mail service absolutely necessary for everyone? It's not, and if you think it is necessary you're like 50+ with little understanding of the future.

What are these people even getting in the mail that justifies the need for every day delivery at their home? Nothing, that's what.

It's adapt or die. Keep running a business that loses money hand and foot, or adapt and stay profitable for the future.
flyhawk25 1/29/2014 12:53:27 PM Report

22 out of the 117 posts so far to the new kid on here.
Apparently not only capital letters are beyond him so is brevity.
flyhawk25 1/29/2014 12:57:41 PM Report

Apparently he found the caps button.Must have been those remedial classes at Swamp Central.
Oldie Goldie 1/29/2014 1:03:24 PM Report

Learningaswego--Trudeau has made his move---He wants Senators to be elected.
Harper promised us that before the last Election---let's see if Harper follows Trudeau's move by fulfilling his Election promise about the Senate.

By the way, learning, Harper has more misbehaving Senators than Trudeau has so how can you call Trudeau's move a ruse ? Harper is the one whose moves are ruses .

Harper has just received a gift from Trudeau---He now has complete control of the Parliament and the Senate which is what he always wanted.

Some countries would call that a Dictatorship !
steelworker 1/29/2014 1:10:02 PM Report

Oldie: just wait 'til the Auditor-Generals report comes out before claiming Harper has more misbehaving Senators. I think Mac Harb (who?) is just the tip of the iceberg.
Gurpy 1/29/2014 1:11:38 PM Report

dust 2
Not everyone owns a computer or feels comfortable receiving online bills or bank statements etc. It has nothing to do with age. Not everyone can afford the internet. I personally will not miss home delivery but that is just my opinion. A lot of people will not adjust for a variety of reasons and I do respect that.
mallet 1/29/2014 1:14:08 PM Report

Et Al..

I have been watching the posts today, and cannot but wonder at the logic behind some. We have on one hand those who believe that sections of the public are hard done by and others who are reasonably well supported. Both are true to some extent, but of course there are some instances where one or two may fall through the cracks in any system. Most of the Veterans I know are quite happy with the assistance they get, however there was one Veteran around Sudbury who had community help to build and outfit a house to make it suitable for his injuries, however I do not know if V A helped in anyway, it was not reported if they did.. I am now both a UK veteran and also a Canadian senior, can I complain, of course, do I think I have been treated fairly, in the main , yes I do, of course there are things I complain about, high gas prices for one, lack of medical issues for another, the weather, the list could go on, but why, some will say I am whinging, others will say you are right and have issues. One has to remember one thing though, governments do what is best for all, not individuals and Jimssm units are made up of a group not an individual and you of all should know and remember that..
theprotector 1/29/2014 1:22:07 PM Report

so mallet you agree with me
sportsman 1/29/2014 1:22:47 PM Report

Get rid of the senate save billions make everyone happy.
theprotector 1/29/2014 1:29:00 PM Report

oh dusty, so much to learn, so arrogant, you cannot run government like a for profit business it doesnt work, harper is proving that. Tell me how my 90 year old father is going to get all wired up on the internet and pay all his bills etc...sorry again you have your head up your a** on that one. I sincerely hope you do not have to look after any seniors in your life!

Wicket I dont beleive the issue is with the people that provide the services to the vets. I have always heard good things about them. I beleive it is the scale back of services, which cannot be denied by anyone. That is the heart of the issue.
dust2 1/29/2014 1:36:30 PM Report

he would still get regular mail stupid, it would be sent once a week to the community box. no one is forcing anyone to get hooked up online, but at the same time you can't cater services towards 90 year old people who don't want a computer. it's their choice to live in the stone age.

you also can't keep running a service that costs the country millions, just to keep the 90 year olds happy. that's taxpayer money, and last time I checked people like to complain about it, hard. it's just throwing money in the trash to keep running the daily front door mail service.
dust2 1/29/2014 1:38:34 PM Report

you're telling me I have my head up my ass when you're focusing the issue on providing a service to a 90 year old who doesn't want a computer. how dumb are you to think I'm the one with my head up my ass.
BIG BROTHER 1/29/2014 1:45:16 PM Report

Very well played Justin!!

pawn takes queen.
learningaswego 1/29/2014 1:48:57 PM Report

Mouldy Oldy - it doesn't matter what Tur-Doh! wants with respect to Senate reform - if the provinces don't get on board with Senate Reform, it can't happen, without constitutional change. PM Harper - though I'm sure you're unwilling to see, tried to get Senate reform started, but the provinces, and of course the opposition parties aholes, blocked every attempt.
Gurpy 1/29/2014 1:52:49 PM Report

dust 2
Someday, you will be old! Someday, younger people WILL make decisions for you that will NOT appeal to you at all! Someday, someone LIKE YOU will come along and DICTATE to you and ROB you of your independence and treat you like TRASH! Seriously! GROW UP!
flyhawk25 1/29/2014 1:53:30 PM Report

To put some perspective on all this.
Right now my good friend and former colleague is in his last moments before passing.
All of this sound and fury is just a diversion for me right now and a welcomed break.
This silly debate will pass, he will die and most of our lives will continue.
Frankly I really don't give a damn what happens on here.
This just gives me a break from the reality of real life.
theprotector 1/29/2014 1:54:42 PM Report

LOl @ dusty! Go home, oh sorry you at your daycare right now, in any event come back to talk when you actually have a clue about what you are talking about and have at least some idea of social responsiblity. Here's a hint "social responsibility" has nothing to do with right/left sides, for most here its common sence, for someone like you who still cant wipe the snot from his own nose it is evidently a new concept. So come back when the potty training is done youngster! Think about the roads, health care, clean water, schools (well that one might not be a good example for you) uic, cpp, resp rrsp, cfia programs for safe food, I could go on and on based on your gibberish the bulk of these programs would be trashed along with vet affairs and mail deleivery. What would you like to see our money spent on? First, please swollow that pablem oh sorry its its not pablem.....oh hmm its enfalac!
Gurpy 1/29/2014 1:55:51 PM Report

Sorry about your friend.
Gurpy 1/29/2014 1:57:48 PM Report

Too funny! That hurt! Lol
dust2 1/29/2014 2:03:12 PM Report

I'm not that stupid to think we need to keep proving a service that isn't necessary. it's not my fault people want to live in the stone age, and the government shouldn't be punished either. we're talking about every day front door mail delivery. news flash idiots, we don't require it anymore. community boxes are fine, every other day delivery is fine too.

you're horribly delusional if you think this service should still keep going. most people get their bills and information through email. guess what, if the seniors can't or don't want email, they can go to the community box once a week and pick up their regular mail.

sorry, I'm not that stupid to want to keep wasting millions of dollars delivering information that could be delivered in a more cost effective way.

you talk about wasting tax dollars, yet whine about the canada post change? stupid on a whole new level.
BIG BROTHER 1/29/2014 2:05:45 PM Report

For you Shakey....
dust2 1/29/2014 2:06:18 PM Report

I do think about things like roads and healthcare, that's why I'm not an idiot and can realize that millions of dollars could be saved by Canada Post, and be put else where.

of course, you can't agree with that if you're dumb enough to think we need every day front door mail service.
Bobby Nerves 1/29/2014 2:13:39 PM Report

@flyhawk25.. hi Fly, would you like to go for a coffee, I can pick you up in my way to Pino's, we can seat by the meat cooler.

Let me know.
Resident 1/29/2014 2:14:44 PM Report

I would like to see mandatory military service for everyone for a year or two after high school. Maybe the entitlement, arrogance, and "me" attitude of some would change. The ones who show distain to people that would give their all for others.
Grump 1/29/2014 2:18:18 PM Report

Mallet are you saying that all the Vets who are upset and protesting are wrong or expect too much? Are you also telling me that all the recent Military suicides were getting the help they needed? Harper aside it sure as hell doesn't look like it me.
Bobby Nerves 1/29/2014 2:28:42 PM Report

@flyhawk25... you have mail!
Wild Turkey 1/29/2014 2:29:57 PM Report

Resident ----- very good idea---at least for the ones who don't have a job, or are not still in school(College,University, Trade school).
Who knows they might learn something they can use to their benefit when they get out.
"Dust for Brains"---you're about a month late with your postal service tirade.It has already been beaten to death on here.As it stands now, there is an online petition in progress with over a million signatures and growing.
This total discontinuation of home mail delivery is far from being a done deal.
Bobby Nerves 1/29/2014 2:30:17 PM Report

Grump, not to worry, Mallet doesn't know what he's saying. I'd curse him and he just mailed his contribution to the NDP!
Grump 1/29/2014 2:33:03 PM Report

Dust 2 you arrogant little social misfit , I don't know how you came by this spiel, but your parents (if you had any) should be locked up for not knocking that crap out of your head. For your friends who are laughing at Trudeau he has effectively aced Harper on the Senate as he has started the reform that Harper only B.S.ed about doing. Further the Senate can not legally do a damn thing without official opposition. Yes that young man is dumb, like a fox..
dust2 1/29/2014 2:35:56 PM Report

I like how when people are proved wrong here, it's the parents fault and they should be assaulted for not assaulting their child

because hitting your child and sending them to war makes them behave properly


Just Curious 1/29/2014 2:37:42 PM Report

Pat on the back for Trudeau, whether you like him or not, and I have NO political preference. At least he is showing a bit of his old man... I would like him as our next Prime minister if for no other reason than to shake up the status Quo. Jesus , we need some new thoughts in this friggin country..
Grump 1/29/2014 2:40:37 PM Report

Dust 2 I don't think Canadians could afford 113 Million dollars of self advertising for programs that did not exist. I further don't think we can afford to borrow money to give aid to anyone at the moment so tell me again why we can't afford postal service when I'm damn sure there is a great deal of waste at the top.
dust2 1/29/2014 2:44:38 PM Report

Because the current postal service IS a waste. Do you agree less people read the news paper since the internet? oh shit, the same applies for mail

go figure
Zing 1/29/2014 2:45:14 PM Report


Pot, kettle?

One who continually calls others idiots?

What does that make you?

Some sort of bully? Maybe an idiot?

Gurpy 1/29/2014 2:46:47 PM Report

dust 2
Military service would be the best thing for you! You would grow up so fast you wouldn`t know what hit you!
Gurpy 1/29/2014 2:48:17 PM Report

Hard work creates don`t have ANY!
dust2 1/29/2014 2:48:42 PM Report

yes I forgot, being trained to shoot people with a gun suddenly makes me agree with your bullshit
Bobby Nerves 1/29/2014 2:57:53 PM Report

What the heck are you, the right wing son?
Grump 1/29/2014 3:02:16 PM Report

Fly, Bobby you have mail.
dust2 1/29/2014 3:04:50 PM Report

I'm someone who is attuned to peoples bullshit. You can tell who's 50 and who's stupid here, they both think war and hitting your child are solutions to problems they have. They're beyond stupid and ignorant in their assumptions that I'm a failure, and that it's the result of not being hit as a child.

You know, the typical "smarten up", "respect your elders", and "you need to grow up", all nonsense spewed by ignorant older people, people so disconnected from reality that they think children should be hit by their parents.

I respect people who deserve respect. Oh you're older than me? You're not special. Get over yourself. You don't deserve special treatment because you're older than someone.

Don't hate me cause I'm right, hate me because I'm proving you wrong

Grump 1/29/2014 3:07:26 PM Report

Dust, 2 Listen sonny it's not the world that is wrong, you are. Smarten up.
Just Curious 1/29/2014 3:14:45 PM Report

@ dust2; I have been on here since Sootoday started and over the years have kinda boiled it down to 2 categories, those you read and wonder about and those you scroll on by as of no consequence whatever. Some posters cross over the lines sometimes and you have to read them anyway, just to bring a little balance to your life.. rw is by far the king of google, and steely and wisen are kinda out there. Fly and bobby nerves are , for the most part the voice of reason on here , which really scares the hell out of me, but you ,my friend, don't have a click, and it takes 10 clicks to have a clue.. Grow up and live a life and then start posting about what you know, because at the moment, you don't know sh*t.. IMHO...:)
dust2 1/29/2014 3:25:01 PM Report

the list keeps growing of butthurt users who can't prove someone wrong but tell them to "grow up" instead
Grump 1/29/2014 3:26:25 PM Report

Dust 2 I don't hate you at all, as a matter of fact I feel sorry for you growing up with such a sad, crappy attitude. You are not dry behind the ears yet but are prepared to try and put down many on here who are decent people who have made a success of their lives. Call it what you will but you are wrong making you arrogant or stupid or both. Of all the people I know on here there is only one who raised a child that would post crap like yours ,the rest were raised properly. You seem to have half a brain so turn it on and observe.
dust2 1/29/2014 3:35:20 PM Report

don't you have more violence against men to promote? oh are you going to just keep posting nonsense and assume I'm a child with no brain? both make you look retarded, but it's your call
mallet 1/29/2014 3:36:01 PM Report


No I am not saying that all Veterans are satisfied, as in any group of people there are always those who will think they are hard done by. As to the recent suicides, only they could tell you why, and it need not be that they were not loved, had no support, or any other reason that you or I could come up with. I will show you something if you come out in the summer which you maybe able to understand my sentiment.. As I understand it, the government has just hired 54 extra mental health care professionals, which is great, providing people ask for help, if not they cannot help...
Just Curious 1/29/2014 3:36:38 PM Report

Grump, that's giving him the benefit of the doubt.. I have read a lot of dribble on here over the years and this kid impresses me as one who just found the send button on his mom's computer. Doesn't have a clue and never will.. By the way, saw you the other day unloading stuff behind the jobsite when I was walking the dog but you were busy so didn't bother. next time I will piss you off and introduce myself...:)
shakespeare 1/29/2014 3:43:01 PM Report

Having ploughed through this morass of mundanity (alliteration has nothing to do with grammar, Wisen), all I can say is thanks bb for the song and beautifully filmed video. The song is a little little reminiscent of "The Water is Wide" ... very fitting.
Grump 1/29/2014 3:45:53 PM Report

JC you will piss me off if you don't. Now I find it hard to believe I looked that busy. Next they will have me up for an Oscar. lol
Oldie Goldie 1/29/2014 4:10:23 PM Report

dust2-- Canada Post is not offering to cut some days from home delivery.
They are cutting off ALL home delivery.
Don't you know the difference ?

Harper said that the Mail is an " Essential " Service when he forced the Canada Post Lockout to end last year.

I hope I am still around when you become a Senior--dust2

You are an insult to Seniors and not fit to call yourself a Canadian.

Shame on you !
dust2 1/29/2014 4:13:39 PM Report

Yes I know the difference. It still doesn't matter, the service isn't as necessary as people make it out to be. Ending home delivery saves millions, and people still get their mail.
steelworker 1/29/2014 4:18:36 PM Report

Oldie: just wait til his latest issue of "Boy Scouts in Garters" gets crammed into a community box with a broken lock.
Just Curious 1/29/2014 4:21:13 PM Report

Hey Grump, I look beyond all the crap that one posts on here. you are probably a really nice guy(rw excluded) and one day will talk to you.. are you done at the new HolidayInn, as that is where I thought I saw you one morning in the back alley as my dog was dragging me down the street...LOL
Oldie Goldie 1/29/2014 4:29:02 PM Report

dust2---Prove to me that E-Mail is safer than direct delivery.

Maybe you have never been hacked yet, but it sure is a lot easier to hack E-Mail than to interrupt Home Mail Delivery.

Go to any Bank or Credit Union on the first Banking day of the month and see how many people are there with their checks in hand to be cashed.

Direct Deposit can cause more problems than a check in hand too.

Many people simply don't trust Electronic Mail.

It is not a matter of learning Computers it is a matter of many people not being able to buy one along with a Printer and other accessories and learning how to use it without making mistakes.

Maybe you could spend more time helping them learn than bitching about why they don't use it.
dust2 1/29/2014 4:35:13 PM Report

Every alternative you brought up poses an equal security risk

Regular mail is just as unsafe as email. I can grab letters out of your mailbox, I can break open the corner mailbox and retrieve mail from that. Your mail can be stolen during delivery, or even lost.

How can direct deposits have MORE problems than regular checks? There's zero footwork or paperwork, you set up the account and you're done. You don't need to print off checks every two weeks and force your employee to pick it up, and bring it to the bank to cash it.

If I want into your email, or if I want to see an email, it's going to be a lot harder than just going to your mailbox at your house and taking it physically

Do you know how stupid it is to have paper versions of things now? Why should I have to go to the bank to get paid? Why not credit my account instantly?

My rent is paid with direct deposit, do you realize how much less work this is? I don't need to write a check every month and find my landlord, it's taken from my account and it's done.
dust2 1/29/2014 4:36:31 PM Report

By the way, you actually told me that hacking email is easier than regular mail. You're forgetting that email accounts are locked, and mailboxes are not (unless it's a community box)

So you're telling me it's easier to gain access to an email account you don't own, than to walk up to a mailbox and steal a letter?
shakespeare 1/29/2014 4:50:52 PM Report

I think dust2 would enjoy "Logan's Run", with one of my faves "Jenny Agutter" (Remember "The Railway Chidren", Mallet?)
BIG BROTHER 1/29/2014 4:52:51 PM Report

I have said it before, but will repeat it now.

When I first heard that Justin was the 'Great Hope' for the liberal party, I was somewhat skeptical. They have not had a good track record, in picking leaders, in a number of years (which explains the rise of Harper) and I figured he was more of the same. I have since been proven wrong, as have many of my right winged neo-con Harperites.

Trudeau is the real thing folks. His prowess in the political ring matches his prowess in the boxing ring. All the talk about his inexperience rings hollow; more fear than conviction from the nattering naybobs of negativity. Harper is sorely displaying lack of wisdom and experience. He does miss the experience of, say, a Joe Clark, guiding on the sidelines. But, sigh, he alienated Joe and just about all of the Progressive Conservatives in his quest for power.

In case you missed his prowess in the boxing ring, here it is once again for your viewing pleasure. I would have bet on Brazeau....all brawn over Trudeau.... all scrawn. I was hoping to find the view provided by Sun Media. The bias in the announcers voice is glaring, but the surprise in his voice even more glaring. It adds to the excitement.
Grump 1/29/2014 4:57:26 PM Report

JC I finished my work at the Holiday Inn Jan. 2013. Still looking for a 100 G.s but will have them in Court shortly. I am doing a couple of apartment complexes on Dacey Rd. and one on Allard St., plus odds and ends for old customers here and there. If you feel like a coffee some time let me know.
Oldie Goldie 1/29/2014 4:57:50 PM Report

dust2 --you are talking theft here---stealing from a mail box is a federal offence---you could probably hack into any Computer without ever getting caught.

The changes that Canada Post are talking about is a Union busting plan and will not happen without a fight.

Canada Post lost money the last time they locked out their workers and that was a miniscule happening when you consider what will happen if and when Canada Post tries to implement their plans now.

As I said in another posting Harper's Crew will have to settle the next shutdown and they can not Legislate to bust any Union because that is a violation of our Human Rights Code.

They will probably try and fail.

I gather that you don't give a damn about any Union but Canadians have the right to form Unions as a Human Right in Canada.
Just Curious 1/29/2014 5:01:55 PM Report

dust2; so you are the guy that's been breaking into mail boxes???..LOl at a twit.. I, personaly, am just too lazy to get my mail so electronic delivery is easier. Besides , the thought of you ever getting a job at the post office just scares the hell out of me.. There are already enough misfits working there that think the world can't survive if they don't personally drop off that flyer to your door.. On second thought, You wouldn't get a job there as you actually have to show up and sign in and there isn't a time clock in Mom's basement...LOL.
Bobby Nerves 1/29/2014 5:05:47 PM Report

Spellchecker, I'm sorry if you feel like that.

dust2 1/29/2014 5:05:56 PM Report

"dust2 --you are talking theft here---stealing from a mail box is a federal offence---you could probably hack into any Computer without ever getting caught."

LOL. Sorry but you're just dead wrong, it's really ignorant to think you can just hack into a computer and not get caught.

In addition, you can't just hack into a computer to get email access, maybe they don't have their password on their PC. You would still need access to the email

Your comment about the legality of it isn't necessary, there's laws against hacking computers and accessing email that isn't yours. It's very illegal to hack a PC or email account.

Not only that, even if you did hack an email or PC, there's loads of evidence to show who did it. ISP's log information about connections and where they initiated, in addition there would be evidence left on the PC. Don't even bring up a proxy, that information is logged too. If the police want the evidence, they can find it.

Sorry but hacking someones email is a thousand times harder than stealing someones real mail. This isn't CSI where I can run a cute little .exe and get access to a hotmail account, real unauthorized access takes skill, time, knowledge, and at some times luck.
Grump 1/29/2014 5:06:21 PM Report

Big Brother ,that boxing match was one of the worst P.R. mistakes the Tories made and I believe that Justin is bothering them plenty these day. I was not a big fan of PET but this young man is the real thing in spite of the swamp galleries comments. In any case what the hell do they know as they voted for Harper and Hayes? Go figure.
shakespeare 1/29/2014 5:07:18 PM Report

Stats: If you liked Rita in "The Trap", I think you'll like Jenny at 19 in a rather strange film set in Australia called "Walkabout". You can watch it on youtube. There's a little nudity at the end, but as long as you avert your eyes, you'll be saved. She has nice wide eyes, too. She still looks great.
Wild Turkey 1/29/2014 5:08:57 PM Report

Hi Shakes----I too thought that stupid song in "Butch" wrecked an otherwise exciting movie.I'll have to re-watch it to figure out what it was all about .
Another Paul Newman movie that had a stupid part was "Slapshot" where the guy was skating around in His Jock.Was it to show His kinder , gentler side?Wrecked the movie.
How did your Buddy Holly practice go?
He was truly the best and for sure " the music died"that day in FEB 1959.
My faves were "think it over" And "Crying, Waiting, Hoping"
steelworker 1/29/2014 5:11:37 PM Report

If Trudeau had dressed up like Brazeaus' wife (not a stretch really) he would have been pasted all over the mat.
Bobby Nerves 1/29/2014 5:15:09 PM Report

@ Grump: you see... this dusted one, this morning decided to join the cons and now he's already stealing.

Pink Peony 1/29/2014 5:17:50 PM Report

BB, hear hear to what you said about Justin. He is proof that wisdom doesn't necessarily go with age. As far as I'm concerned what he did re: senate...a wise move.
shakespeare 1/29/2014 5:28:01 PM Report

WT: I really enjoyed my Buddy Holly evening (not sure if my wife did). I ended up with "Not Fade Away". I sang it once at an educational seminar on grading.

"I'm goin' say how it's gonna be
You get an A and you get a C"

BTW Jenny was, actually, only 16 when she filmed those scenes, so definitely avert the eyes! If it's the American version, your averting will have been done for you.
BIG BROTHER 1/29/2014 5:31:50 PM Report

Brilliant move. We can see, just on this know nothing blog....he's got them scrambling. He beat Harper to the punch (pun intended) and took the high road away from him.

Harper wanted to reform the senate, I'm sure. He may have meant it when he was a wannabee. He must get his advice from the US Intelligence Agency. He had to know (or should have known) it ain't gonna happen without Quebec. And Quebec ain't gonna budge without persuasion. Meanwhile, he has appointed no less than 59 Senators. And from what we've seen, some real dandies.

Harper had/has no more experience than Trudeau. And his lack of experience, without guidance from the 'old guard', is glaring.
steelworker 1/29/2014 5:52:26 PM Report

Just wait for the Auditor-Generals report to come out. If the Libs are as guilty as some Conservatives Justin will say "What Liberal senators?" If some get busted then the Liberal Party will not have to support them with money from the party coffers (or coifures) and Justin can "play" dumb.
shakespeare 1/29/2014 5:54:46 PM Report

I read that headline this morning and I thought "brilliant!" Parliament has just resumed (at last) and while Harper's group are pissing off vets, Muslims, postal recipients and most in Hayes' riding ("It had nothing to do with me or my party, it was all that nasty railway company"), Trudeau hits them with a broadside. Trudeau is starting the job that Harper has been dithering on.
Resident 1/29/2014 5:55:55 PM Report

Dust: There is MUCH more to the military than fighting. Learning to work together, learning discipline, respect and learning from others are some. There isn't room for "me first", arrogance, know-it-all attitudes for the job to get done. The military helps in emergencies (which members feel good about I'm sure) and learn trades, access schooling and more.

I agree with another poster that there would be some exceptions but still think a year of two after high school would be worth while for most.
Resident 1/29/2014 5:57:35 PM Report

I agree with PP and others that Trudeau made a good move with the Senate.
Resident 1/29/2014 5:58:56 PM Report

Flyhawk: Sorry about your friend. Doesn't make it any easier but...
dust2 1/29/2014 6:01:22 PM Report

college > military

sorry I don't wanna waste 2+ years of my life just so old people can think better of me.

people rather further their education than waste time and effort in the military.
dust2 1/29/2014 6:04:46 PM Report

maybe old people should learn to deal with criticism instead of just telling kids to respect their elders like their gods that came from the heavens.

I came on here and showed how stupid some people were and of course they assumed I was a child that needed to be in the Army because I'm a good-for-nothing disrespectful loser.

there's better ways to improve someones persona than to put them in the military. proper parenting + good education goes a long way, it's dumb to just send them off to the army because they're misbehaving.
right wing 1/29/2014 6:08:03 PM Report

"Trudeau is the real thing folks."

Hahahahahaha....I was waiting for the salivating one to show up...B.B. is probably licking his poster of J.T.
Did you get a thrill up your leg when you read that B.B.

Thanks for my laugh of the day.....
flyhawk25 1/29/2014 6:09:58 PM Report

'nattering naybobs of negativity' - good stuff.The trifecta of alliteration.
You must have had a helluva of an English teacher in your yoot.
Grump 1/29/2014 6:14:52 PM Report

Dust 2 You have missed the point it's not for old folks to feel better about you. It's for you to feel better about yourself.
right wing 1/29/2014 6:18:20 PM Report

Hey dust2, how's it going and welcome to my world.
Feeling a tad ganged up on...don't sweat it...I see that you don't...there is a group of low information libs on here, a few that you will learn not to even waste your time with and then a couple of smart but dyed in the pink lefty deniers.
Hang in there and thrash away......
It only takes about a day to get the feel of the place and you are going about it the best way of all.
Oh, and don't google any information or provide links...only the lefties on here get to make any claim they want without backing up diddly.
Even though with the internet it is not only the same as looking things up in an a resource book but even better given all the information at ones fingertips...the logic that it takes a smart person to even know where to resource credible information does not work with the lefties they will simply criticize for it.
Other than that...have a's more fun than a barrel of monkeys and on this site...the monkeys are real.
dust2 1/29/2014 6:19:49 PM Report

that's why I'm not listening to that garbage. I'm happy with myself, I'm smart enough to assume that someones actions online isn't the same as offline.

you guys are the fools for thinking I'm a child with no respect for others. you guys think I'm disrespectful, but none of you actually know.

I'm not the one with something to learn, the ones against me are
steelworker 1/29/2014 6:20:22 PM Report

Howzabout "the lying leviathans of liberalism" or "the conniving corrupters of conservatism". I could probably do one for the NDP but that would involve a "blistering bellowing from my burrito-laden bowels".
right wing 1/29/2014 6:20:36 PM Report

"helluva of an English teacher"...well we know who it wasn't......
flyhawk25 1/29/2014 6:25:18 PM Report

rw - good stuff.
I hope you and your newest recruit live long and prosper.
Grump 1/29/2014 6:27:25 PM Report

rw Put a sock in it. Your opinion has proven to be of little value to anyone other than to your posse. They are like a field of mushrooms, keep them in the dark and feed them B.S.. I might add that for a guy that talks so big I still don't have that bet on the outcome. You starting to get that sick feeling like Steve has? Do you feel Justin coming on like the winning race horse? You neo-cons used to look over your shoulders to see where he was, now only the long sighted can see him way ahead down the track. LMAO
Javaman 1/29/2014 6:31:19 PM Report

JUST LIKE LITTLE CHILDREN..except this fighting is amongst grown adults. If you cannot play nice in the sandbox...go home. Folks should be able to offer an opinion without being put down.imho
dust2 1/29/2014 6:32:43 PM Report

Grump, you assumed I was an child with a lack of education, work ethics and respect.

How is your opinion worth anything? You read comments from someone you've never met and made up a bunch of bull to put someone else down.

You're the definition of clueless. Literally assuming everything while having nothing. I've seen who has some logic here, and I've seen the countless old-timers posting absolute non-sense and telling people to "respect your elders" or "your parents should of knocked some sense into you". Cause you know, beating your children means they'll do well in school and respect others.

You're a retard for thinking someones opinion is worth less because you don't agree with it.
Bobby Nerves 1/29/2014 6:33:41 PM Report

Resident, I hope no relatives from any Veterans had to read the disrespect with they had been treated in this board today.

No everyone here thinks in the same way.

In my case, I have a lot of respect for all those that went to the war, and probably many around here should think what it's look at the enemy in the eye.

Incidentally, this very same internet that many enjoy today was born as ARPAnet or Advanced Research Project Agency. It was distributed to many countries in the world and I had a chance to experience it. At that time, it was a small screen about 12 by 8 inches with green color text. You could hang a message directed to the Antarctica Attachment and few hours later you could read the answer to your message. There was a channel for the scientific community, but no GUI neither out of context messages. Well that same group of networks that started in the USA was, as many other experiments, paid for with the Defense Budget from the USA.

I bring it to your attention, for you to understand that perhaps not only the Internet, but maybe even the cloths that you are wearing right now and are so comfortable, maybe, and only maybe, you can enjoy it because the blood of many young people like you that have to die for you to be here spreading all what you have said, no only you, but all those who spit to the sky.

You people, many here, have not an idea that there are billions of people in the world that have no idea what clean water is, a pair of shoes, clean cloths, a good meal, kids that are paid to kill and to be kill.

Many here, should be sodomized, just to experiment a little what war is all about.
Grump 1/29/2014 6:34:51 PM Report

Dust 2 You had better go get some help or you will end up like rw, googling garbage and then twisting the results to suit your own agenda. I will repeat it's not the world that's wrong it's people who act like both of you.
dust2 1/29/2014 6:36:05 PM Report

haha don't address the issue, just call me more names!

do all old people give up like you?
right wing 1/29/2014 6:36:12 PM Report


You's like fishing with dynamite and Grump is the biggest of them all.....
lookaround 1/29/2014 6:36:32 PM Report

Steelworker and his rants ...always the same mantra blah blah
right wing 1/29/2014 6:36:42 PM Report

Hey shakespeare...this one if for you.
right wing 1/29/2014 6:37:14 PM Report


...unlike Grump, right!
Grump 1/29/2014 6:39:05 PM Report

Dust 2 and you my little retard assume that older folks know nothing and a little snot face spoiled brat like you does? What the hell do you think you are doing twit. Run along, go get some help or not. At this point I don't expect many of us would give a furry rat's butt either way.
right wing 1/29/2014 6:39:16 PM Report

...and dust, there are a few lefties on here that have a fascination with sodomizing and such stuff.
lookaround 1/29/2014 6:40:16 PM Report

dust2 stop being a moron and grow up. God sakes some people have no right to call anyone old.
dust2 1/29/2014 6:40:47 PM Report


you're bad at reading comprehension

signed, everyone
dust2 1/29/2014 6:42:55 PM Report

"Dust 2 and you my little retard assume that older folks know nothing and a little snot face spoiled brat like you does?"

I never said any of that. That's why I say your reading comprehension is bad. Cause it is.

lookaround 1/29/2014 6:43:36 PM Report

Dust2 if you cannot be a person with a decent comment then leave. Thanks. Your welcome everyone.
dust2 1/29/2014 6:45:35 PM Report

you've got a lot of people to tell that to here, rofl
lookaround 1/29/2014 6:45:46 PM Report

So with the 119 million on advertisements and only 5% responding to their online survey I think that is a waste of my tax dollars. Give it back Harper.
steelworker 1/29/2014 6:46:57 PM Report

Looks like reacharound just woke up.
theprotector 1/29/2014 6:47:39 PM Report

oh this moron makes right wing look good!

And takes the heat off of me - biggest goof I have ever read on here! I dont like the military but Im not goose stepping my way to the legion either, its a culture that I just dont understand. However how can you deny the actions of the military in the past present and unfortunatly the future? sorry there dusty you might not get the goose reference (no not Wawa). Hey if you would to get together and talk about your hate of Canada and its seniors then lets! Ill buy
I do have a few questions though:
How old are you?
What education do you have (if any)
What do you do for a living (if anything)?
Do you have any kids (oh I pray to spelly's god please say no)?
Why the right of entitlement?
How long did it take you to learn the phrase "do you want fries with that?"
lookaround 1/29/2014 6:48:20 PM Report

roll on the floor laughing...really why?

lookaround 1/29/2014 6:52:14 PM Report

Steelworker typical rude poster. Why can you never be civil or try to partake in any conversation that has meaning. I await ...........for some intelligent answer.
Bobby Nerves 1/29/2014 6:52:29 PM Report

And there are many right wings killing kids with drugs.

Pink Peony 1/29/2014 6:52:58 PM Report

Mick Harvey's "Out of Time Man" sounds a lot like Iggy Pop's "The Passenger".
steelworker 1/29/2014 6:58:38 PM Report

reacharound: try looking in a mirror once in awhile.
lookaround 1/29/2014 7:00:42 PM Report

By the way Steelwosrker I work and don't hang around on here all day snipping and snivering on here with little morsels of attempted sarcasm and " like I gotcha" snippets from the dark side of the net. Fine to be hiding behind a screen and finger pad but you my man are a tad shy of being funny or even remotely a character that contributes any intelligent discourse on any subject discussed here. Honestly Steelworker you drag this site down.
lookaround 1/29/2014 7:04:51 PM Report

Hey Steelworker it is Lookaround not reacharound.

Read my name properly. You are the least bit droll. Stop trying to be a something you are not.
Zing 1/29/2014 7:09:30 PM Report

Dust2 is RightWing
Hunter101 1/29/2014 7:11:51 PM Report

dust2, while I don't agree with you on the idea that being in the military is a waste, I do agree with you on the Canada Post issue.

P.S. Grump is the biggest moron on here. Don't even try to reason with the guy. He tried to fight someone at the dump once for not agreeing with his stupid thoughts. You have more intelligence inside your left shoe.

P.P.S. Don't knock the military. There are some in there you depend on for your freedom.
Hunter101 1/29/2014 7:12:53 PM Report

lookaround, while it's not your name I bet you've given more than one in your time.
shakespeare 1/29/2014 7:13:05 PM Report

Thanks rw: that was a great show! It actually was based on a British show called "Till Death Us Do Part" and "Meathead" was a "Scouse (from Liverpool) Git" and the wife (I forget her name) was a "Silly Old Moo". Both were great but in this instance I think the American copy was slightly better because, of course, of Archie.
I'm not going to get involved in any namecalling, so suffice it to say, Justin is taking the upper hand and if dust2 wants to keep with people under 50 he needs to look no further.
lookaround 1/29/2014 7:26:07 PM Report

Hunter101 what are you talking about? I am not a male. I have reached out to those needing help and volunteered at ARCH and donate time to the Seniors Active and Alive program.
Hunter101 1/29/2014 7:27:02 PM Report

It was a joke but clearly you and I don't share the same sense of humor.
flyhawk25 1/29/2014 7:27:51 PM Report a senior moment I forgot to add the final line to that Ogden Nash poem:
'Candy is dandy
But liquor is quicker'
Years later he added:
'Pot is not'.
lookaround 1/29/2014 7:31:57 PM Report

Haha Steelworkers my little pork chop come sees mama and we can look in the mirror together and if the mirror cracks I will blame it on you.
steelworker 1/29/2014 7:46:13 PM Report

I hope it's not a mirror over your bed. (sarc on).
Resident 1/29/2014 8:06:08 PM Report

Dust: Respect is, I think, for people of all ages. Young or old SOME people DESERVE respect. What is the saying? You can't tell a book by its' cover? One can miss a lot by being too arrogant to bother.
Grump 1/29/2014 8:15:01 PM Report

Hunter 101 get you facts straight. The one that egged me on turned out to be a foul mouthed girl. She wanted to get a little scrap on but as with you little girls didn't bother to show up. I found out quickly that you keyboard commandos are long on being mouthy because you can post from your parents basement. I have met some really nice people here who come out to gatherings but I have yet to meet any of you rude mouthpieces at any. I expect with mouths like yours that is likely a wise decision. Some of the nicer folks on here are too polite to tell you flamers what they think. If you want respect and politeness from me you have to show the same and I expect you wouldn't have a clue how to do that.
Hunter101 1/29/2014 8:33:10 PM Report

Grump, I'm sure taking down an old fart like yourself wouldn't be my most difficult task of the day.

That being said, what would that solve?

You'd be a weak old fart and stupid.
lookaround 1/29/2014 8:49:32 PM Report

Hunter101 ageism son. You young people have no backbone. I know a snide remark will follow no doubt and what should I expect right? right? I maybe 41 and am old but am a lot wiser and smarter and of course more polite than you. By the way the words "old farts" sooo passé like so yesterday like I am soooo over it. I would call you a punk but I won't.
Hunter101 1/29/2014 9:03:01 PM Report

lookaround, I'm not as young as you obviously think.
nanag 1/29/2014 9:07:56 PM Report


Really you called him a "flamer"? Wow.. that says a lot about your true character.
mallet 1/29/2014 9:11:01 PM Report


I had to think for a moment regarding the "Railway Children", and then the old joke came to mind, that series was made before the era of Dr Beeching.. Yes, I remember the lady in question, but did not see a lot of her work besides that series, I suppose people would call it dated by todays standards. I do not know if you ever watch that series now showing "Foyles War", I find it like an old friend, entertaining in an amusing way...
sparks7 1/29/2014 9:14:24 PM Report


If you are 41 you are not,not, old. Hell I just turned 61 and I don't feel old. Well,maybe a little creaky in the mornings and other things on which I will not elaborate.(:In spite of it all though, I somehow do not feel old.
Spellchecker 1/29/2014 9:17:38 PM Report

Nor do I Sparks, and I'm soon to be a very youthful 69.
Spellchecker 1/29/2014 9:18:24 PM Report

I think the blue room has outdone itself today for insults, lol.
Pink Peony 1/29/2014 9:19:09 PM Report

What is "old"?
Spellchecker 1/29/2014 9:20:49 PM Report

lookaround 1/29/2014 9:24:41 PM Report

actually something interesting the young ones act old and the old ones act young that is why some are cranky on here,
sparks7 1/29/2014 9:28:50 PM Report

HA Lookaround

That is food for thought!
soowat 1/29/2014 9:32:01 PM Report

After post 128,I was so bored I fell asleep.

After a nap I went from post 129 to the end It's the SSDT
sparks7 1/29/2014 9:32:07 PM Report

Rocks are really old.Just look at the Rolling Stones.I mean Kieth Richards is really,really old. Isn't he?
sparks7 1/29/2014 9:59:51 PM Report

An old joke

The only two things that would survive a nuclear holocaust and maybe even severe climate change.

Cockroaches and Kieth Richards.
statusquo 1/29/2014 10:07:42 PM Report

Apparently coconut milk is great for removing make up and gentle on the skin.

I always knew that...I soak my "naughty bits" twice weekly in it.

I thought it a fitting apropos to today's mix of witty and illuminating posts.

God bless "yous" all and good night.
sparks7 1/29/2014 10:08:50 PM Report


I bet he might even come through a currency collapse smelling like a rose or the strawberry patch in my late grandmothers garden.
Wicket 1/29/2014 11:22:44 PM Report

sparks7 1/29/2014 11:33:12 PM Report

"God bless "yous" all tonight."

And some people talk about insulting,condescending,arrogance in others. Wow.
Jimssm 1/29/2014 11:34:11 PM Report

I think I broke my scroll button today.
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