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View Room Comments for Sunday, Jan. 19 2014

Sunday, January 19, 2014   by: The Soap BoxWelcome to the View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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bounder 1/19/2014 6:35:20 AM Report

FBI email scam ,do not open it's a scam from Nigeria. You can Google it and read it and get a laugh out of it's stupidity.
TFinn 1/19/2014 8:10:41 AM Report

Why are our gas prices some of the highest in the country .???

Retreaded 1/19/2014 8:14:43 AM Report

High gas that you will always feel the need to get gas across the river. Its strange how all the gas retailers manage to come up with the exact same pricing .The government loves high gas prices....they reap more tax dollars. There is no easy solution to this problem. Us little guys can only fight back by continuing to buy gas in Michigan.
TFinn 1/19/2014 8:19:57 AM Report

Average Regular Gas Price By Canadian City
Sault Ste Marie 139.9
Edmonton, AB 99.4
Calgary, AB 106.5
Regina, SK 110.5
Victoria, BC 111.1
Winnipeg, MB 111.7
Saskatoon, SK 114.6
Abbotsford, BC 117.2
Barrie, ON 121.5
London, ON 123.1
Kitchener-Waterloo, ON 123.9
Ottawa, ON 124.5
Hamilton, ON 125.1
Toronto, ON 125.1
Vancouver, BC 127.9
Halifax, NS 130.9
Quebec City, QC 131.4
Montreal, QC 134.4

Bobby Nerves 1/19/2014 8:23:23 AM Report

Good morning all.
Hilarious article about the ladies from the Sault and Rob Ford finally practicing some civilized habits and using the Timmis washroom.
It make me a happy camper with my poor command of this language, that I call English.
The article rises a question, as it's known that G. Mammolitis is the only supporter of R. Ford in council, as his brother Doug is in hiding and no one knows if it is for his alleged history of drug dealer or something else. Well the issue is that Mammolitis took a couple days to meet in the Niagara on the Lake with the owners of the strip bars located in Toronto. Why in the Niagara? The pillar joint owners are proposing the creation of brothels all over GTA.
In the other hand, Mr. Hudak, who happens to be the leader of the same party that Mr. Ford represents, is proposing at provincial level, a plan to create a million jobs in ten years.
Now here is where I have a question and someone in the know can answer it:
Is the plan about creating brothels in Toronto, part of the Job Creation plan for the young adults that Hudak is proposing provincially?

In the other hand, USA is planning on deporting Justin Beaver as they found cocaine in his residence and he'll have to face the music. They would like him deported back to Canada and go to live with Rob Ford.

They also presented a petition in the USA, to President Barack Obama, for Rob Ford to be declared Honorary Citizen. The petition requires hundred thousand signatures and right now, it stands 99.999 signatures... short.

Retreaded 1/19/2014 8:23:36 AM Report

Does it cost MORE to get gas to SSM ??
bounder 1/19/2014 8:33:55 AM Report

GAS, a $140.00 purchase of gas in Soo Michigan is comparable to a $210.00 purchase here,a huge saving, o buy where you like me across the ditch.
TFinn 1/19/2014 8:35:14 AM Report

Soo Mich has an average gas price as the other states and geographically they are the same area as us why should our prices be SO different than other places. Not a couple of cents it's 25, 30,35, and 40cents difference ..unfair totally ....
TFinn 1/19/2014 8:48:24 AM Report

We're paying 6.26 for an Imperial gallon. Based on my tank cap "IF" I go over the river to fill I would save approx $40.00 for the equivilent amount of gas ....including my bridge fee..!
Oldie Goldie 1/19/2014 8:49:08 AM Report

I also find it strange that the Retailers in Soo Ont. are not even trying to keep their prices as low as possible to keep customers from crossing the Border.

As for the prices being the same at all Retailers on our side of the border---In my opinion it is price fixing.

Whenever a retailer comes along and tries to offer gas at a lower price the Wholesaler refuses them gas.

Several have tried it over the last few years and all failed.
Pink Peony 1/19/2014 9:06:45 AM Report

Maybe if enough people complained officially re: gasoline prices here in the Soo, something might get done about it.
bounder 1/19/2014 9:10:09 AM Report

I just did and hope more will do the same.
flyhawk25 1/19/2014 9:11:51 AM Report

Why not tell our resident crusading MP?
See how long it takes for his government to open the doors on competition - just as soon as Harper and his pals get back from Israel on our dime.
Bobby Nerves 1/19/2014 9:21:14 AM Report

I don't know how many people here is from another country that borders with other economy and the value of it's currency alternates in such a way that it can influence the daily economy of mostly everyone.

It happens almost everywhere and a decade one country goes to the next door country and few years later everything reverts. In between processes the economy of the local border towns overheat or languish till almost disappear.

I'm also frustrated for the fact that local corporations don't seem to be interested in promoting their own business, and sometimes I suspect that could be just because they keep retails in both sides of the line. I may be wrong, but then, how do they survive?
Bobby Nerves 1/19/2014 9:26:24 AM Report


There is no room for competence. Not even Verizon is interested in helping the cell market.

The three large providers will keep the hand in your pocket and the finger in your... dial.

It can't hurt to ask our local MP.
Just Curious 1/19/2014 9:33:10 AM Report

I get excellent mileage from my shoes and 15 speed bike but I suppose my hydro will go up a bit when I start charging my E bike in the spring. With an 80k range round trip I can go pretty much anywhere I have to go. Way cheaper than our gas, which I agree is a rip-off..
flyhawk25 1/19/2014 9:33:31 AM Report

Bobby first. I'm not on his Christmas card list.
Grump 1/19/2014 9:40:12 AM Report

Good morning everyone, it's still light but more damn snow. Enough already. If I remember correctly , a number of years back, Rick Kelly ran a Petro Can. and left because he was only getting 2.3 cents per litre for pumping it. It is not the dealers that are the problem. If someone had more time than me they could get the oil companies attention by organizing rotating do not buy months on their products. They would end up shedding Dealers like flies, and if a month didn't work possibly 2,3 or 4 not buying their products would. They certainly would not be able to get anyone to become a dealer here and would be forced to hire staff and pay the rates which would increase their headaches. Have a great day all.
Just Curious 1/19/2014 9:41:15 AM Report

Bobby and Fly; Why not just go out and talk to the hydro pole in front of your house???
Grump 1/19/2014 9:51:31 AM Report

Bobby the boondoggle over the wireless sales again shows just how incompetent our Mr. Harper really is. They had a business panel on the National commenting about it a week or so ago. They tied it directly to Harper's foreign policy which they felt was all over the place. China can come in, set their own rules and bring their own workers, while others have had to jump through hoops. This leaves Big Investors uncertain just what the hell the rules really are and for who. Then again I'm sure that Bell, Rogers and Telus are good old boy Tory supporters.
Grump 1/19/2014 9:56:01 AM Report

Right on J.C. the Pole is likely brighter and more informative. It also doesn't have it's ego plastered all over town and won't keep you waiting three weeks for an appointment.
Bobby Nerves 1/19/2014 10:02:35 AM Report

Grump, how can you say that the three IT giants are Tory supporters.

Do you have a proof of it?

Well I'll elaborate and you tell me if I can pass the test with flying colors: Taxpayers paid $C 650 millions at the time of completing the Sky Dome. Roger got it for $C 25 millions. I can cover the highway from here to Saskatoon with the name of the people I know that can afford more than $ 25 millions for that real estate, but you wait for someone to drop you a line about it.

You'll be like the light pole JC has up for sale.
Bobby Nerves 1/19/2014 10:05:41 AM Report

Grump, the light pole is only capable of help/illuminate those close to it/him.

Well, the Laundromat only works if you deposit a coin, worst yet!

We go from do nothing to a promise of doing even less.
Retreaded 1/19/2014 10:07:12 AM Report

Harper...on this latest trip...has between 150 and 200 "guests" that we as taxpayers are footing the bill for. It was pointed out that in the past the "guests" covered their own expenses. More don't care attitude spending by Harper. This dude has to go.
flyhawk25 1/19/2014 10:12:14 AM Report

In fairness I think the number is closer to 20. The rest are probably going to write it off their taxes.
cathyh 1/19/2014 10:31:43 AM Report

A change of subject if you all don't mind; what happened to the Bali restaurant? Went to go for dinner last night and it's closed. Anybody know why?
Pink Peony 1/19/2014 10:38:27 AM Report

cathyh, that's too bad. I really liked going there every now and then. In fact, just last night I was thinking about going there soon.
Just Curious 1/19/2014 10:40:39 AM Report

Too many restaurants in the Soo and too many going over the river to eat.. Not casting blame, pointing out the obvious...:)
Retreaded 1/19/2014 10:43:57 AM Report

Applebee's seems to be quite popular with Canadians...perhaps they should open one on this side of the river.
Pink Peony 1/19/2014 10:52:30 AM Report

Another topic, natural gas. Don't they have inspectors checking when gas lines are brought towards a home? It seems that there isn't. My neighbour had a line brought to his home back in the fall. From the time the line was installed and finished, I thought I could smell gas whenever I went by it while cutting the grass. Then recently my neighbour hooked up lines to bring the gas into his home. I could still smell gas whenever I went by to shovel the drive. I ended up calling the fire department and they checked it out. Definitely a gas leak. They got the gas company to fix it right away. I was told that the new pipes have to be carefully taped while installing or they leak. I was also told that a contractor had done the original work. For months gas has been leaking into the air. I don't know who was paying for that gas that was leaking due to sloppy workmanship. I would have thought that the gas company would have inspected the work that the contractor did for them. Guess not.
Pink Peony 1/19/2014 10:56:02 AM Report

Oh, and I was given a compliment. I was told that I have a good nose!

When we had to start paying for a passport in order to go across the river, I got one. But when I had to renew it, I decided not to. I haven't been across the river in years and I don't miss it.
mallet 1/19/2014 11:13:36 AM Report

And Another Topic..

Seems that there is a new programme to stop smoking. Now while I am all for people butting out, reformed smoker myself, I just would like to know one thing, IF everyone quits smoking, where will the governments get the billions of dollars it collects in taxes from sale of the smokes??? The health costs will not just disappear overnight, and the companies who employ the workers who get to smokes to the users will not be working or paying taxes, so I ask where is the net saving?? I know some will say smoking kills, which it does, but so does booze, vehicle emmissions and a whole host of other things..
IMHO this will just take the burden of tax from one section and spread it over everyone else, socialism at its' greatess...
Just Curious 1/19/2014 11:22:47 AM Report

American restaurants don't do well in the Soo. Pizza Hut, Red Lobster, Boston Pizza almost went out as soon as they opened, The Outback steakhose(altho not in the Soo)soon packed up and headed back across. Been a few others over the years that just couldn't get past the gate north of the border. I read the other day that the entire Red Lobster chain is going down now. They open in Sudbury or almost anywhere there is no cross-border competition and they seem to do OK. Apellbees would fall on their face here too, I'm sure. They would be competing for a market share of people that already go over the creek to eat cheaper..
Just Curious 1/19/2014 11:25:29 AM Report

Sorry about the spelling, Spelly, fingers are cold and gimpy this AM...:)
Wild Turkey 1/19/2014 11:38:21 AM Report

Mallet---it would be a very good thing if everyone were to quit smoking.It is a well known fact that smoking kills,and I wonder if the associated health costs are offset by the taxes that are collected.Smoking numbers have declined dramatically in the last generation.The big concern now is the numbers of young people who are just starting to take it up.The experts are recommending a dramatic increase in the price of smokes , to combat this.Don,t worry about lost govt. revenue.They will discover some new area to tax ,that will make up for it.
Zing 1/19/2014 11:43:45 AM Report


The people I know who still smoke cigarettes buy them on the reserve for $32.00/carton....there is tax on those cartons.

The FN people do not pay tax, so they send in the tax money to the Federal Government and at the end of the month the Federal government returns all those taxes.
Really we pay tobacco tax to the FN people, not the Federal government.

Myself, I changed to e-cigarettes 3.5 years ago and I love it. I still get the nicotine but no smell, ash, tar or cancer-causing chemicals they add to analogue cigarettes.
Wisenheimer 1/19/2014 11:58:11 AM Report

Imperial Oil would not be putting up a new station at Bruce and Pim if they didn't think they were going to make money. They need to thank people that won't get passports.
It's cheaper to buy your gas across the river because they don't tax it as heavily. They also have a lower minimum wage so their labour costs are less.
They also compete on prices, unlike in Soo, Ont.
Gasoline sold east of the Manitoba Border is refined from Brent oil at Brent oil price. Generally $10 more per barrel.
Enbridge and Trap would love to pipe cheaper Western Canada Select to our eastern refineries, but get all kinds of opposition from the same people who bitch about gas prices.
right wing 1/19/2014 12:02:07 PM Report


Boston's Pizza is a live and well in the Sault.
...Boston's Pizza was started in Edmonton is 1964 it is now owned by the great Canadian Jim Treliving a former RCMP officer.
cathyh 1/19/2014 12:05:24 PM Report

I don't think it's any cheaper to eat across the river. I've eaten there many times, not to save money by the way, but just because. IMHO if everyone stopped smoking the gov't would tax everything that we do like eat, play, etc., and then they would p!$$ it away like they do now.
right wing 1/19/2014 12:08:11 PM Report


Makes me laugh to no end the crying for lower gas prices while the envirowackos continually battle the oil companies.
Grump 1/19/2014 12:08:15 PM Report

cathyh The Thai restaurant that opened in Guffins old place is pretty good and reasonably priced. Mallet I'm not sure the tobacco taxes cover the Health care costs, particularly the First Nation taxes. LMAO. The Feds could certainly stop or greatly curtail that non taxed tobacco if they wanted.
BIG BROTHER 1/19/2014 12:08:58 PM Report

OOOOH, The Great Canadian!! ahahahaha...A true patriot.
Just Curious 1/19/2014 12:17:05 PM Report

rw, didn't realise it was a Canadian chain, didn't think it would be with that name.. Should of googled, I guess. I do know tho, that they almost didn't make here when they started out. Had to do some major re-pricing and quantity changes to their menu. Couple of friends of mine worked there when they opened up and their was a lot of complaints before they made the changes.. They seem to be doing OK now, tho. I can't afford to even eat out at Rotten Ronnies Mcworm joint anymore so it don't make much difference to me..:)
Just Curious 1/19/2014 12:21:00 PM Report

Been a long time since I was at the Market Mall.. Is Kackleberries gone???Used to like going there for breakfast...
flyhawk25 1/19/2014 12:24:38 PM Report

The restaurant industry is very difficult.
You must either own the place and work long hours or work for a large place with diverse options and deep pockets.
And in this city price rules- people want fast food prices but sit down service.
And if it ain't some form of Italian it's a tough sell.
Consequently margins are thin and fixed costs for product, labor and taxes are murder.
It is no place for the lazy or the foolish to invest.
right wing 1/19/2014 12:39:14 PM Report

Of course B.B., he worked his ass off and is extremely wealthy now.
In the mind of a lefty something to laugh at.
No surprises there.
Bobby Nerves 1/19/2014 12:39:57 PM Report

JC, I don't know if it's Canadian or American, but the Price is from the Arab Emirates.
I sat there to eat with my very modest appetite, the server approach and hit straight, do you guys make a good hawaiian? Yes sir. What's the largest you can make... A large, well bring it over and for drink, the real thing, large one, no ice. It wasn't as good as the pizza I bake myself... the dough was from the day before to be generous, cheese... scarce and I'm not constipated... pineapple just there, bacon scarce; the taste was acceptable. Bring on the bill... 38 dollars... What? did a break any windows here...

Once outside, I'd picture the store in my mind not to go there ever again.

And I ever had to plow my parking spot in middle of a huge storm. It was sometime last winter.
right wing 1/19/2014 12:42:56 PM Report


Not all people eat out on the is evident by the high end restaurants that not only thrive but turn a very tidy profit for those that own them.
Me and the Mrs. don't eat out all that often but when we do we go for the food quality and the experience, who cares what it cost.
...especially when an average trip for two through a Spew-Donalds drive through is over twenty bucks.
Zing 1/19/2014 12:45:09 PM Report

JC, It is still up and running at the Market Mall but I think it is closed on Sundays.
Grump 1/19/2014 12:46:02 PM Report

J.C. The restaurant is still there but Kirby is working for John at the Marble place ,the corner of the Highway and the Fourth Line. The restaurant is no longer Kackleberies
mallet 1/19/2014 12:57:15 PM Report

Grump and Wild Turkey...

The health cost won't disappear with the cessation of tobacco tax. the people in their 40's and 50's will most likely still have those accuring health problems associated with tobacco use, so the health problems will persist while the taxes dry up, which will then have to come from another source. As with all risk assessment figures I am sure the government actuaries work this out to a fine T that with the deaths associated with tobacco use, the saving in CPP payments and taxes received will be equal to the health costs, otherwise why have they not just made it illegal..
flyhawk25 1/19/2014 1:04:18 PM Report

Both my son and daughter in law are chefs in high end places.
They can tell you how close the margins are and how difficult the work is.
I won't bore anyone with details but it is not an industry for the lazy or the fainthearted.
The people in it earn their pay and not many get rich.
You have to love what you do.And you are only as good as the last meal you served.
Jimssm 1/19/2014 1:05:44 PM Report

I doubt you could claim the local Boston Pizza is doing that well.

I go out for supper most Friday nights and it is alway my last choice when all other places are full up and the wait is too long. Fratelli's, North 82, Giovannis.... all full up with a waiting list. Boston Pizza ? ....walk right in and sit down.

There is always lots of space at B.P. anytime you go and that is not a good sign.

Sudbury is the same thing... if you can't get into Kelseys, Montanas, East Side Marios or Caseys you can walk right in to B.P. with no wait.
Wisenheimer 1/19/2014 1:18:40 PM Report

Grump your ignorance of our capital markets is astounding, yet you blow like a banshee.
I mentioned here last summer to put "stink bids" in on BCE, Telus and Rogers after the rumour appeared that Verizon (at the Feds invite) were interested in entering last week's spectrum auction. Verizon had no interest and the 3 stocks went parabolic since. No love lost between the 3 incumbents and the Feds. They wish Industry Minister Moore would keep his nose out of the Telco market.
Wisenheimer 1/19/2014 1:23:44 PM Report

Rumour back in the Sault is that "Bruno's all day Breakfast" has closed.
Checked it out once .. couldn't see how their $7.99 2 eggs with bacon and toast could compete with $3.99 else where.
So it goes.
flyhawk25 1/19/2014 1:47:50 PM Report

I tried it - once. And I agree. If they are going to charge that amount for breakfast it had better be special.
It was not.
Very few places treat breakfast as any more than a loss leader.
I suspect they did not do due R&D into the idea before trying it out.
mvnnth 1/19/2014 1:52:59 PM Report

right wing

You, and those like you, deride those who warn that manmade emissions are causing the earth's air temperature to rise. Calling them names and otherwise being disrespectful and dismissive is generally the modus operandi. On Wednesday (the 15th) an article was published on the Opinion pages of the Tampa Bay Times. Google "No evidence behind climate denialism" and read that piece. If that doesn't cause you to wonder then I think I would be safe in concluding that there is no "wonder" in you. Certainly no science.
Pink Peony 1/19/2014 1:59:30 PM Report

When Bruno's opened, it was 4.99 for 2 eggs, bacon, toast, potatoes and fruit. I thought that was fair. I went a second time, a few months later, and the price went up significantly and the fruit was no longer included. That was my last time there.
flyhawk25 1/19/2014 2:17:25 PM Report

My late brother in law owned a local diner.He said that he needed to make enough money on coffee sales to pay his staff.
He never got rich but was very comfortable but - worked very long hours.
Grump 1/19/2014 2:28:04 PM Report

Wisen my little moron, anyone as dumb as you should learn to keep his mouth shut. No. 1 It is not Imperial Oil ,it is McDougal Fuel building that Station. No 2 , I was making good money as G.M. of a Saudi/American Const. Co. but when I came home in 1985 I was making more money on the Market than I was in Saudi. Before you try teaching how to suck eggs you have a lot of learning to do. I was born at night but it wasn't last night so before I start taking stock advice from a like you over what I use now, I'll go get my head checked out. Go get yourself another 60 pounder and you can feel 10' tall again. You'll have a nice day now.
nanag 1/19/2014 2:48:19 PM Report

I went to Bruno's for brkfst once. They were in process of getting large plate glass window changed was almost in . Waitress took our order.. rudely I might add. The guys putting in window cracked it . It was bitter cold. Our food cooled off quickly, our coffee got cold quickly. I asked waitress if we were going to get a discount considering we could not finish our ice cold order. She just said no and walked away . I would never waste my money there again. Absolutely no customer service. If thats how they want to treat their customers they deserve to go under.
Wicket 1/19/2014 3:03:17 PM Report

Bruno's is closed; Boston Pizza is surviving by the skin of their teeth - their food is mostly prepared/packaged/freeze dried and microwaved. Anyone I know that went there fairly often the first year or two, does not go there any longer, us included.
Fratelli's has become our new favorite lunch or supper place; reasonable prices, excellent food, great specials.
Applebees has become the same ol', same ol' but Pizza Hut is still a fav.
Have heard about Red Lobster closing but is that just all their places in Canada or is that in the states also?
Grump 1/19/2014 3:09:49 PM Report

Wicket I don't know about during the week but if you want to get into Red lobster in Sudbury on weekends be prepared to wait. The one in Barrie seems almost full even during the week. They are owned by General Mills and likely just go by the numbers.
shakespeare 1/19/2014 3:20:14 PM Report

She used to work in a diner
Never saw a woman look finer
I used to order just to watch float across the floor
Just Curious 1/19/2014 3:42:09 PM Report

I'm not sure if the closing is in the States too, it was just something I caught in passing. My son in law was a chef in the one here in the Soo and he saw the writing on the wall a long time before they shut down. He is managing chef at two hospitals in the Sarnia area now plus managing the Timmies in both places. he realized early on there was no money working the line...

And Grump,when in Sudbury I always hit Joey's Only Fish and Chips, always great food, low prices and really great service. They were going to open one in the Soo but backed out, don't know why...:)
Prometheus 1/19/2014 3:48:03 PM Report

General Mills spun off Red lobster in 1995. Since then it has been a free standing entity with ownership under the name Darden Restaurants.

Darden recently announced it is about to spin-off Red Lobster in order to placate activist stockholders. They did not identify any closures in the announcement. That is not to say some restaurants may not close as part of the process.

Darden also own and operate the Olive Garden, Longhorns Steakhouse and a few smaller chains. Apparently they are not directly affected by the divestment.
shakespeare 1/19/2014 3:52:16 PM Report

Wicket: my wife's favourite for lunch with her friends is Fratelli's, too. I don't have friends, since Wisen's gone to Florida, so I stay home and eat kale, quinoa, leek, lentil and squash soup. I'm making a batch right now.
Zing 1/19/2014 4:00:17 PM Report

I'm getting hungry..
Zing 1/19/2014 4:00:42 PM Report

for the Niner!
BIG BROTHER 1/19/2014 4:07:13 PM Report

Grew up in a small town,
Never put her roots down.
I used to order just to watch her float across the floor.

Now there's a great Canadian.
BIG BROTHER 1/19/2014 4:08:12 PM Report

Daddy always kept movin', so she did too.
BIG BROTHER 1/19/2014 4:15:24 PM Report

Ironically, there is this song. The irony being today's headlines. Neil covering another Canadian icon who stated that he bought his own ranch when the royalties from Neil's version started rolling in..
Grump 1/19/2014 4:16:49 PM Report

Prometheus, Seems my info is a tad old (like me). I did a couple of projects for a General out of Toronto who used to do their building for them. Good Lord the time does fly.
BIG BROTHER 1/19/2014 4:19:10 PM Report

Another irony to this song is that it was a huge inspiration for Neil as a teenager in Winnipeg. He would spend his savings at the local diner's juke box, playing this song over and over. Doesn't get more Canadian than this.
David Poluck 1/19/2014 4:22:26 PM Report

Wise...Imperial Oil would not be putting up a new station at Bruce and Pim if they didn't think they were going to make money.

I heard that it was going to be a new Tim Horton's and Brunos a Star Bucks!

Just Curious 1/19/2014 4:27:27 PM Report

No offence BB, but I liked Ian Tyson's version better, liked the lower tone of voice. Strangely, I'm a Canadian right down to my roots and never cared for Neal Young at all.. Generational thing I guess, country all the way...:)
shakespeare 1/19/2014 4:29:33 PM Report

BB : classic stuff. It's funny, whenever I went back to see my friends in the U.K., they'd hand me a guitar and say "Play that beautiful song about the winds and Alberta".

"All those things that don't change, come what may" have certainly changed for some.
BIG BROTHER 1/19/2014 4:31:39 PM Report

None taken JC. I could care less (Shakey) what others think of Neil or my taste in music, for that matter.

I happen to think he is a Canadian jewel. I also liked Ian and Sylvia's version, but Ian himself stated that it was Neil who put it 'out of the park'.
shakespeare 1/19/2014 4:31:48 PM Report

JC: Neil is closer to your age than mine and he's Canadian!
BIG BROTHER 1/19/2014 4:34:22 PM Report

Yes they have Shakes. I never knew you played guitar and sang Neil songs.

An old hippie huh? I have sung his songs forever around Lake Superior campfires, all while howling at the moon. That is something that will never change, come what may.
BIG BROTHER 1/19/2014 4:39:34 PM Report

I have one older brother who thought the song 'Mellow Yellow' was written about him. Quite square and old school. Another older brother (and these two guys are close) who turned me on to Joe Cocker. Go figure! Siblings so close in age and many mutual friends with such divergent tastes in music (and ideals, for that matter).

I was fortunate to have their influence in my life. Both great guys.
shakespeare 1/19/2014 4:45:17 PM Report

Sang Joe's version of "The Letter" in the Sault and elsewhere for 12 or more years, until I retired from the band a year ago.
BIG BROTHER 1/19/2014 4:51:42 PM Report

But, I liked Joe Cocker much more than Donovan. And Neil Young much more than Ian. Guess which brother saw things in black and white and which brother saw things in colour. Which one leaned right and which one leaned left. They ate the same food and drank the same water.

That's just the way it goes in life, I suppose.

You are a ham, eh Shakey. Takes some nerve to put oneself out there. Good for you. I wish I could have that nerve, because I know I could sing.

'My baby wrote me a letter'....great song.
BIG BROTHER 1/19/2014 4:53:35 PM Report

Things weren't measured left and right then, though. It was socially, consciously aware or socially, consciously couldn't care.
BIG BROTHER 1/19/2014 4:56:31 PM Report

Are all things black and white or does one see life in colour.

I didn't mean socially couldn't care. I did mean socially, unaware.
Pink Peony 1/19/2014 5:00:53 PM Report

Love Neil Young. Thanks for posting those songs. Goosebumps!

I have two older brothers that are musicians. 13 and 10 years older. I think I was immersed in music from the moment I was brought home.

Wicket, would you check your junk mail please. I sent you an email a while back. I said Hi *****, it's Pink Peony in the subject line.
sparks7 1/19/2014 5:01:04 PM Report

oh boy.You guys got me surfing you tube again for great music.Once I start down that road it's hard to stop and there is no telling where it will take you.So many wonderful old time tunes!Just listened to George Hamiltons's "Abilene"..a tune I haven't heard in ages.Thanks for getting me started.
shakespeare 1/19/2014 5:02:37 PM Report

I'll never forget the Cocker/Belushi team up on SNL.
bounder 1/19/2014 5:05:10 PM Report

Any restaurant on this side that sells liquor is off my list, just way to expensive. That's why USA does well the booze is way cheaper, almost pays for half the meal in savings as compared to here.
Pink Peony 1/19/2014 5:06:05 PM Report

There was some great music in Breaking Bad. I came across a playlist of 40something songs from that series while looking for Take My True Love By the Hand by The Limeliters. Some really great songs in that playlist.
realitycheck 1/19/2014 5:07:01 PM Report

"They also compete on prices, unlike in Soo, Ont."

If they compete on prices, why are they usually only a cent apart the vast majority of the time?
Just Curious 1/19/2014 5:18:35 PM Report

Just as well we don't all like the same music anyway...Be a lot of out of work musicians in the
BIG BROTHER 1/19/2014 5:33:13 PM Report

Belushi hamming it up, but he actually had some serious talent.

Too bad he took 'Feelin' Alright' over the top.
BIG BROTHER 1/19/2014 5:34:27 PM Report

Strangely, JC, I like all genres of music. Some I can listen to all day, some not so much. But, I do appreciate all types.
mallet 1/19/2014 5:54:49 PM Report


On music, have you ever listened to any of the "Hooked on Classics".. Some of the music is quite a surprise especially when up tempo'd... but there again I am somewhat, shall we say strange when it comes to music....
sparks7 1/19/2014 5:56:28 PM Report


I like all genres of music too.But here is one I wonder if you know of.It is called beatbox.I had never heard of it before till I heard some on cbc radio a couple years back.Some of it is pretty good.I think though that the Inuit throat singers should maybe be given credit for being the original beatboxers.
Pink Peony 1/19/2014 6:08:10 PM Report

I have no idea what he's singing about (Spanish maybe??) but I like it!
BIG BROTHER 1/19/2014 6:09:50 PM Report

Sparks, I had just heard of this style of percussion a couple of weeks ago. It is amazing how a person is able to make those sounds from their throat. The sound replicates the electronic beat box. It is a skill, but I don't view it as a music style. That's just me though...
Spellchecker 1/19/2014 6:18:18 PM Report

Pink Peony, that was a great little tune by the Limliters with lovely harmonizing. I had never heard it before. Thanks for the suggestion.
statusquo 1/19/2014 6:21:30 PM Report

Yous guys don't know what you're talking about...

THIS is music !!

Pink Peony 1/19/2014 6:29:34 PM Report

Spellchecker, yes! Really beautiful! There's a few songs on that playlist where there's harmonizing.
Grump 1/19/2014 6:35:43 PM Report

Spelly I believe that would be Limelighters
Wisenheimer 1/19/2014 6:41:13 PM Report

Grunt, I betcha you think Joe owns "No Frills" and Steve Rome own "Romes" and Larry Cairns use to own "Safeway".
Imperial oil will set the price of gas and diesel at the new station, and the operator will do as he is told.
You on the other hand will continue to mouth off.
sparks7 1/19/2014 6:44:30 PM Report


It's not something I could listen to all day but like you say it is quite amazing and a little bit is ok for me.

PP you got me looking up bosanova music..oh's endless..
statusquo 1/19/2014 6:47:47 PM Report

Quite a few spelling errors there Wisen...

Did you reach the bottom of your 60lbs Bacardi keg?
Pink Peony 1/19/2014 6:54:41 PM Report

Grump, I believe that would be Limeliters.

Wisenheimer 1/19/2014 7:01:12 PM Report

A 60 "pounder" is an old euphemism for a 60 ounce bottle of spirits.
It's getting a tad low but the sale is still on.
Wisenheimer 1/19/2014 7:04:41 PM Report

Filled up the rental today at BP for $3.31 U.S.
Grump 1/19/2014 7:15:06 PM Report

Wisen, Why don't you give it up and run along before you embarrass yourself any further? McDougal Fuels are not some little Service Station Operator. They sell Imperial Oil Products over a large area of Ontario and Operate the local Tank farm. I think they are well above the "do it or else category". Now go get another 60 pounder and make yourself feel 10' tall again, instead of the little that you really are. By the way, no stock tips tonight? LMAO.
nanag 1/19/2014 7:17:12 PM Report


Was that supposed to be a good link? sometimes with you it's hard to tell.. but it didn't work for me :(
statusquo 1/19/2014 7:21:20 PM Report

"Filled up the rental today at BP for $3.31 U.S."

I don't care how much gas costs. I only put $20.00 dollars in at the time!

See...I think!
Spellchecker 1/19/2014 7:24:07 PM Report

Yes Grump. I noticed that little slip and I thought I might hear from shakespeare or redranger about that but I didn't think it would be you. Good eye there, Hawkeye.
Spellchecker 1/19/2014 7:25:06 PM Report

Oh, and I see Pink Peony has called you on it too, LOL.
statusquo 1/19/2014 7:25:16 PM Report


just look up "the Friday Song" by Rebecca Black.

It's deep, the lyrics speak to me and it's what life should be all about!

when I am alone at home I dance to it like nobody is watching...good thing cause I am only wearing Darlene's panties.
nanag 1/19/2014 7:25:41 PM Report

after 15 attempts to check it out it finally worked.. should have known you were not serious :)
lookaround 1/19/2014 7:27:29 PM Report

Is Harper travelling on my dime again?

Figures when he has to face the house he runs.
lookaround 1/19/2014 7:32:38 PM Report

Well the lower US, Australia, New Zealand and most of the lower hemisphere has had year to year drought conditions and every polar cap has shrunk. So then to the "There is no environmental change" wackos what say you? Of course with proof.
statusquo 1/19/2014 7:33:09 PM Report


Just thank the Lord he didn't take Bev Oda along .
Pink Peony 1/19/2014 7:36:26 PM Report

"Put the lime in the coconut, drink them both together.
Put the lime in the coconut then you'll feel better.
Put the lime in the coconut, drink them both up.
Put the lime in the coconut and call me in the morning."
Grump 1/19/2014 7:39:06 PM Report

Pink Peony that would be another writer or group. The harmony that you enjoyed was the Limelighters who I believe started singing together in University. Glenn Yarbrough was their main singer. I collected all their recordings in the early and mid 60's. A great group who never seemed to achieve the popularity of The Kingston Trio.
Pink Peony 1/19/2014 7:46:05 PM Report

Grump, isn't it spelled Limeliters, not
Grump 1/19/2014 7:51:50 PM Report

Pink Peony No that is something else that I haven't heard of before. I just googled and Limelighters are the singing group.
Pink Peony 1/19/2014 7:54:24 PM Report
Grump 1/19/2014 7:58:19 PM Report

Status I'm sure the Isrealis would sell their orange juice for less say 15.00 US a glass so they don't need Bev to waste more money
Grump 1/19/2014 7:58:22 PM Report

Status I'm sure the Isrealis would sell their orange juice for less say 15.00 US a glass so they don't need Bev to waste more money
Grump 1/19/2014 8:15:09 PM Report

Pink Peony I know the original group were the Limelighters but I know they split up way back then. I now see Glenn is also part of the Limeliter group too so since he was most of the music I guess we are both right. I had no idea they had formed another group as I heard him a few times as a solo after the split up.
lookaround 1/19/2014 8:25:40 PM Report

Bev Oda is Harpers token.....
flyhawk25 1/19/2014 8:30:59 PM Report

I saw the live in the sixties. Yarborough played a 4 string tenor guitar and it made me get one.With 4 chords, a capo and a sincere look it worked for me.
Talent be damned.
lookaround 1/19/2014 9:15:47 PM Report

Status why does Wisen have to post on here. He contributes nothing but dispatches from a snake infested rednecked state.
steelworker 1/19/2014 9:39:18 PM Report

A little balance to all the dopey liberal comments is only fair n'est pas?
lookaround 1/19/2014 9:43:52 PM Report

Listen Steelworker for you I suppose dopey means Steelworker. Tighten your beanie and go to bed.
statusquo 1/19/2014 10:02:18 PM Report


Because Wisen was baptised and his kids were baptised. He is smart and a savvy investor. He loves rotisserie chicken from Walmart and rum . He fills up and shops across the river as often as he can, but attends the veteran's parade at the Essar center. He is a true Canadian patriot!!
He gives free advise on stocks and feels the need to cyber "bukkake" his wisdom all over our collective screens.
nanag 1/19/2014 10:02:34 PM Report


Good Lord man I just read your 7:25 post..was watchin football.. give me your address I wanna peak in you window when you be dancin in "D"'s undies bahahahah
shakespeare 1/19/2014 10:09:57 PM Report

Stats: your musical taste is in question, as I did detect satanic underpinnings when I played it backwards. I mean Rebecca "Black"! I see it as a prurient call for teens to go out and have "fun".
Watched half of the movie you recommended. Will finish it tomorrow. Rita has the "deer in the headlights" look as she did in the previous Cannes film festival winner, "The Knack" from the year before.
Reed was surly on and off the screen and was apparently a phenomenal drinker. He died of a heart attack in 1999 filming "The Gladiator" in Valetta, Malta, which is actually a very nice place to die.
nanag 1/19/2014 10:46:13 PM Report

you know I sat here for a few minutes after my last post before I realized I used the wrong spelling of the word peek. Maybe it is just me and the fact that I am tired but I just wanted to babble on here and correct something that only I may have figured out. I am wrong .. right? if I want to look in a window I peek.. not peak which is something a peeping Tom may do while looking in a window..gee the more I try to fix it the more wrong it all seems.. I am better at reading posts than posting posts :)
statusquo 1/19/2014 10:57:42 PM Report


Oliver Reed was one hell of a guy!
Rita is my quintessential girl you want to rescue from...whatever!
Her eyes are mesmerizing!
The movie "The Trap" is straightforward and beautifully mash potatoes are comfort food "The Trap" is the movie equivalent!

Clean, rustic and honest. For 1964 standards.... exceptional.

" The Searchers" by Ford is in the same genre....exceptional cinematography and emulated time and again, as recently as in " Inglorious Basterds" by Tarantino...the door scene...when SS Officer Landa looks at the Jewish girl running away...
Anyway....your Nissan is due for an Oil Change.
Snobank 1/19/2014 11:13:19 PM Report

Now if you're looking for real music, and a nice skinny but pneumatic blonde to watch as well, take a look at this!
sparks7 1/20/2014 3:07:15 AM Report


sparks7 1/20/2014 3:20:34 AM Report


The Trap,is one of my all time favorite movies.
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