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View Room Comments for Monday, Jan. 6 2014

Monday, January 06, 2014   by: The Soap BoxWelcome to the View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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Grump 1/6/2014 5:54:42 AM Report

Good morning everyone, the holiday season is over. Wisen for goodness sake go to Florida and take your 40 point IQ with you. Have a great day all.
David Poluck 1/6/2014 6:32:51 AM Report

Good morning Grump...another frosty Monday morning!
BIG BROTHER 1/6/2014 6:50:59 AM Report

From the article on Soo Today news page. Brian Hayes was asked 'why Harper', to lead Canada.

'Harper, Hayes said, is who Canada needs as its leader "going into the foreseeable future."


Without giving one reason, as to 'why Harper', he carried on for 5 paragraphs as to why it shouldn't be Trudeau. And not one reason with any substance. Still not a word as to 'why' Harper.

Can't say anything nice about your leader, take some cheap shots at your opposition. That's the Conservative way.
Bobby Nerves 1/6/2014 6:53:07 AM Report

Good morning Grump, let me know if you need some wheel chains and a pair of worm bricks for the seat. We'll have to go for our Driving on Ice license.
BIG BROTHER 1/6/2014 7:01:55 AM Report

Someone...anyone....please let Bryan know what leadership is. He is displaying grade school tactics.
mr.monty 1/6/2014 7:02:48 AM Report

Good morning folks. My spiral bulbs still have not gotten very bright outside. manufacturer says not to be used below minus 20 c. asshole gov.
have a nice day.

theprotector 1/6/2014 7:12:01 AM Report

give'em da full .....
Bobby Nerves 1/6/2014 7:16:15 AM Report

Think positive, like a Maple Leaf fan.

Mr. Poster 1/6/2014 7:23:43 AM Report

Oh ya...remember???...elect Bryan Hayes....a member of the so called "ruling party" and he will bring federal jobs and other goodies to SSM. What a laugh. I didn't think he could sink much lower than his latest tirade...but he has. The one term wonder will soon be replaced.
Jimssm 1/6/2014 7:28:19 AM Report

Mr. monty...

Buy LED instead... they have no problem with the cold.... and no mercury.... and last longer... and are shock-proof.
Just Curious 1/6/2014 7:36:38 AM Report

Judging from the comments, I'll bet Bryan regrets doing that interview.:).
mr.monty 1/6/2014 7:46:14 AM Report

jmssm are led lights expensive! how much light do they give off. I am on a pension and can not see paying 40 bucks for a light bulb. I grew up with good ol incandescent lights. thanks bro.
flyhawk25 1/6/2014 7:50:40 AM Report

My desk lamp has more passion than Hayes.Think about some of our other elected representatives.
I knew them all back to Terry Murphy.And they were all passionate about this area and its people.
Even if I did not vote for them I recognized that.
But Hayes?The guy makes vanilla exciting.
Jimssm 1/6/2014 7:55:56 AM Report

Mr. monty..

60W equivalent LED is $18 at Canadian Tire.
Same brightness as incandescent lamps and will save you money as they last 25,000 hours.

Instant-on and they are dimmable too.

Only 8.6 watts and they don't get hot to the touch.

theprotector 1/6/2014 7:58:35 AM Report

you would think that lazy ass would make at least one effort to keep one federal job here! Instead he is letting them be all relocated to southern ontario tearing apart families here in the sault - shame on you!
theprotector 1/6/2014 8:02:32 AM Report

U.S. waived laws to keep F-35 on track with China-made parts
Just Curious 1/6/2014 8:03:14 AM Report

Jimssm; Kinda makes you mad tho, just knowing that the price of the LED light is gonna drop like a stone in a year or so. Look at the new style TVs. They were in the thousands when they started and you can get a 32in now at Walmart for 165 bucks or so. Sad, really...

theprotector 1/6/2014 8:18:43 AM Report

"Instant-on and they are dimmable too" are we talking right wing and steelhead already?
right wing 1/6/2014 8:34:36 AM Report

Well you know how it brilliant ones have to dim it down for the dummies.
Bobby Nerves 1/6/2014 8:37:35 AM Report

... and "turn right" to connect them.

Wild Turkey 1/6/2014 8:49:56 AM Report

@Flyhawk---Don't insult vanilla----It is a very interesting natural product and a good source of foreign exchange for some impoverished East African Nations.It is therefor somewhat useful.
Many have stated before, that Harper
controls everything that His people say.He sure messed up on this one!!! I had to read it over several times because my first reaction was utter disbelief.They are practically Handing this riding to the opposition.Depending on who the Libs, or dippers run, either party will easily steal this seat from the Tories.Just another indication that they could care less about Northern Ontario.
theprotector 1/6/2014 8:51:28 AM Report

it says instant on....nothing about brightness...but thats your way, make as much out of nothing as you can and still have nothing
flyhawk25 1/6/2014 9:13:19 AM Report

And while Bryan puts his foot in his mouth Harper is out west touting pipelines to the coast.
The problem is the FN are going to take this to court and tie it up well past the election. As they should.They are finally figuring out how to use the law to stop what blockades and confrontations cannot.
It's past time that FN finally become equal players against governments that have abused them since confederation.
I hope Bryan makes an appearance in GR to explain to our neighbors why it's fine for government to screw them over.
He does know where Garden River is doesn't he?
Wisenheimer 1/6/2014 9:15:41 AM Report

I'm thinking, that Hayes gets back in as the opposition has a real difficulty coming up with viable candidates. The political make up of this riding is not reflected by the plethora of ne'er do wells on here.
(Grump, TP .. plethora means "lots of".)
flyhawk25 1/6/2014 9:23:26 AM Report

Guess you'll just have to watch and be patient. There are some dandies out there just planning as we discuss.
No hurry. The more Bryan speaks off the cuff the worse he looks.
Wisenheimer 1/6/2014 9:29:35 AM Report

Ditto young Justin.
theprotector 1/6/2014 9:33:36 AM Report

wise...such a lack luster response. You see you normally dont get many liberals or ndp on these sites, more of the conservatives will post. Why? because they need to try and justify the crap they are trying to different then spelly with the bible garbage. He is in a tuff spot as he is both a verbal conservative and a thumper. Sad, he might actually be a nice person without having to hide behind those two labels. However you rw and steelworker (which suprises me with him being a steel worker...normally they want everything and never want to work for it...oh wait that is him)continuiously show a general of knowledge about everything.
Wisenheimer 1/6/2014 9:40:44 AM Report

With 47 million on food stamps, a real unemployment rate of 12%+, U.I benefits extending into the 6th year, America's main focus appears to be on legalizing another intoxicant.
Buy Frito-Lay. (pep-n)
theprotector 1/6/2014 9:40:56 AM Report

lack of
flyhawk25 1/6/2014 9:48:34 AM Report

UI benefits end at the new year.Better perfect your Google skills.
Wicket 1/6/2014 9:50:33 AM Report

Do not like to get involved in the political ring, but have a very serious question to ask:

Harper is a typical politician - egotistical and full of himself; not sure how much damage he has done to our country in all areas ....

Trudeau is a good-looking young buck appealing to his age group and younger, but with not enough experience and perhaps, riding on the Trudeau name; maybe not enough substance.

Locally, we have no one of any substance in any party willing to take on the job (always being criticized - would sure have to possess a tough skin).

So, the big question - how do you decide who to vote for; vote locally hoping for the best outcome to benefit the Soo, vote for the party hoping that is the party that will run the country????? We already know that some of you are strong party supporters no matter who runs locally or federally - so that kinda puts you out of the running to answer my questions.
mr.monty 1/6/2014 10:01:03 AM Report

thanks jimssm for the info. next time I head to town I will check them out. just have to find something to heat my pump house,only need 60 watts. if trudeau stands on the podium and says his first mandate is to legalize pot he will be a shoe in! harper wants to ship unrefined oil to china to be refined. they have no pollution laws! ship all our raw mat. to china so they can ship junk back to us. all the auto jobs in Windsor and Detroit went to china. if we went to war with china we would have to get them to supply us with men and military hardware. as pink Floyd would say. bring the jobs back home.
theprotector 1/6/2014 10:48:27 AM Report

wicket - good points but perhaps we need to have someone not experianced in the ways of the old boys club. Someone with fresh new ideas, someone with no policital baggage and not owing policical favours. Do we really want someone experianced the same way harper is?
flyhawk25 1/6/2014 11:05:23 AM Report

Whoever we elect will be a backbencher.
They'll either be in the government or the opposition.
Which means they'll just be background to what really is happening.
They could be cardboard cutouts like Hayes or sharp politicians like David
Either way I hope they've cut their political teeth on city council.Even then it's a crap shoot.
So given that criteria who have we got?
tuffy1 1/6/2014 11:20:38 AM Report


I have never seen his or any other
leaders name on any of my ballots
when I vote.
Wild Turkey 1/6/2014 11:23:09 AM Report

Fly----being on city council doesn't necessarily guarantee a win in a provincial or federal election.Like you said it's a crap shoot.I seem to remember Lou Turco, and James Caicco trying , and failing.Mr J. Rowswell was mentioned as a possible Tory candidate, but unfortunately, didn't make it that far.Steve Butland has been there, done that, but doesn't appear interested again.Some of our city councillors appear to be positioning themselves to "make a run for it".But do any of them have the required "old Boys Club" support?
flyhawk25 1/6/2014 11:26:28 AM Report

Well Caicco did and it did not help.
As for the possible choices you're guess is as good as mine.
I have a favorite but she says she's not interested.
realitycheck 1/6/2014 11:29:57 AM Report

"But Hayes?The guy makes vanilla exciting."

So did Tony Martin but so what? He was OK in my books as he worked hard for his constituents. I would suggest you tackle the issues, not the personality. The only time personality should come into play is when the person steps out of line, such as in the case of Rob Ford.

"(Grump, TP .. plethora means "lots of".)"

Have you ever thought of adding to the discussion rather than just voicing smart-alec remarks topped by your personal arrogance and condescending attitude? I have never understood how some people get it in their minds that they are above others.

flyhawk25 1/6/2014 11:39:32 AM Report

I've only met Hayes once and I was not impressed.
He hasn't done anything to make me personally dislike him. I just think he's an ineffective member.
I don't want to date the guy. I grew up with the late Carmen P., liked him but never voted for him.
If elections are only about personalities I can think of a pile of politicians who'd never get in.
We're not voting for a high school students' council.
mallet 1/6/2014 11:49:03 AM Report

Reality Check..

Oh come now. Everyone has an ego, just some take longer trips than others.

I have a neighbour who is touting Proportional Representation as the way to go, which would be great except A/ who would I be voting for, a politcal party B/ someone who could not get elected otherwise but chosen by the party and C/ because the U N says it is a good system.. The present system has given good service for a while, and whilst there have been poor leaders and incompetents they only last for the length of the government. P R would mean you could have the same people there for years while they enjoy the party leaders favour, under our present system we elect who we like and if they screw up/non effective we can drop them next time around.. Could we have a discission on this topic???
theprotector 1/6/2014 11:51:27 AM Report

I know little about pr....what countries are using this system now?
realitycheck 1/6/2014 12:28:34 PM Report

"Oh come now. Everyone has an ego, just some take longer trips than others."

I don't recall saying anything about ego. Cheap shots with no substance has nothing to do with ego.
As for proportional representation, the only parties that want it are the ones who will never get anyone elected, or at least very few, under our first-past-the-post electoral system. I don't like it. I prefer what we have. You win the election, you get in, simple as that. I don't want parties being able to appoint people just because they got a certain proportion of the vote.
Wild Turkey 1/6/2014 12:38:50 PM Report

@ Reality---I agree with you---It puts me in mind of kid's sports teams being all-inclusive and giving out awards for just showing up.Are the kids really learning anything?.Being part of a team should be reward enough.They will learn that hard work is rewarded, and can apply that principal later in life.
mallet 1/6/2014 12:44:57 PM Report

Reality Check..

No, cheap shots with no substance are not, but thinking you are better than others is your ego talking..


I do not know that any are using that system, but something in my memory says did not New Zealand try it once?? I am not sure...

From a personal point of view I like the system we have now. Appointees would be more likely to toe the party leaders line than are MP's now, and if appointed and you disagree do you get fired and another appointed in your place?? Who would be appointed to the area you live in?? someone from a large urban area with no link to your area. From my point of view the idea is fraught with problems and difficulties...

David Poluck 1/6/2014 12:48:47 PM Report

Budget surplus could be bigger than forecast in 2015, Flaherty says

OTTAWA - The federal budget surplus could be bigger than predicted in 2015, Finance Minister Jim Flaherty said in an interview aired Sunday.

The assessment falls in line with projections from the parliamentary budget office that came a month ago.
theprotector 1/6/2014 1:28:53 PM Report

all projections done by a bookie from vegas!
Mr. Poster 1/6/2014 2:07:36 PM Report

Does anyone REALLY believe Jim Flarehty? He has led us to believe all is well for years...even though the debt is larger than ever. he also has to SAY whatever HARPER tells him to say.
Grump 1/6/2014 2:50:11 PM Report

Good afternoon all, damn near froze this afternoon. Wisen Please take your 40 point IQ and go to Florida. Even though smart assed mouth certainly shouldn't apply in your case take that with you too. I wish to hell your Mommy hadn't told you that you were cute and smart because it wasn't right for her to mislead you so. Seems like just about everyone is getting fed up with your moronic remarks these days but carry on twit.
Grump 1/6/2014 3:01:44 PM Report

Wicket I don't know what the Dippers are doing and can't think of anyone exciting in that lot. The Liberals have a couple of potential candidates who should sweep the polls. Both good solid candidates who have very successful careers and are considering a change These two are decent, smart and both know what hard work is. That by the way doesn't include keeping a paper mill in work supplying mail outs or having their picture plastered all over buses etc. Sorry I can't name names until it's a done deal.
Grump 1/6/2014 3:02:21 PM Report

Wicket I don't know what the Dippers are doing and can't think of anyone exciting in that lot. The Liberals have a couple of potential candidates who should sweep the polls. Both good solid candidates who have very successful careers and are considering a change These two are decent, smart and both know what hard work is. That by the way doesn't include keeping a paper mill in work supplying mail outs or having their picture plastered all over buses etc. Sorry I can't name names until it's a done deal.
Zing 1/6/2014 3:47:00 PM Report

This is the second day in a row I could not get the Sootoday website.

OK now though.
Grump 1/6/2014 4:04:35 PM Report

Zing I tried to post twice and got the "page can not be displayed" both times. One of them must have worked as I got a double post
steelworker 1/6/2014 4:22:29 PM Report

Fly at 11:05 a.m.-sharp politician like David O. Cripes I blew coffee all over my keyboard. As for the protector: did your mommy tuck you in last night when she got home from the bar crawl? I was working outside last night in minus 20 degree darkness for twelve hours. You should put your big boy pants on sometime and apply for a job at the plant(if mommy will let you).
mallet 1/6/2014 4:34:45 PM Report

Grump.. and Flyhawk..

Little piece of national news there you might be interested in... Seems HMCS Chicoutimi has been rebuilt and is going back into the fleet. You remember those, don't you? 4 secondhand submarines we bought off the limeys, cost 1 man his life and has spent the last 10 years being re-built. Who was it who bought them.. oh right.. Mr Chretien.. he was the Liberal PM wasn't he. At least Harper is trying to buy new ones!!!
steelworker 1/6/2014 4:41:46 PM Report

Chretien: the same little thug who cancelled the new helicopters for the armed forces at a huge cost to taxpayers??
Wisenheimer 1/6/2014 5:07:54 PM Report

Fly .. on a more serious note, if you really want our national government to benefit the local ridings, you need to support the party that keeps our Steel Mill and Seamless Tube Mill running.
I take it you have very little knowledge of the goings on at the city's 2 biggest employers, but the Tube Mill is almost exclusively concerned with producing oil country tubulars and Essar Algoma has a huge business producing sheet for welded tubes, again for the oil patch. Neither Essar Algoma or Tenaris make large diameter pipe for pipelines but their other businesses do.
Smaller diameter line pipe is used, though mostly for infrastructure and construction at well sites and upgraders. Encouraging FNs to clog up the works will be like biting off your nose to spite your face and only encourage their sad status quo.
P.S. Nice to see ground breaking finally commencing at the new bridge plaza and that the area will become a hub of activity come Spring.
Wisenheimer 1/6/2014 6:04:34 PM Report

The unemployment extension will be passed shortly. The Republicans would like to pay for it, the Dems would like to print the money in the basement at the Fed.
flyhawk25 1/6/2014 6:07:25 PM Report

Yeah, those doggone FN folks impeding progress again. Imagine.
The scope of ignorance just got bigger.
lookaround 1/6/2014 7:37:55 PM Report

David Poluk if that is true why am I paying so much income tax????

lookaround 1/6/2014 7:45:45 PM Report

Reflection of the comments for Hayes is the same sentiment for the whole country and that means a change in 2015. The CONiving Cons have managed to piss off the majority of Canadians. I am looking forward to change.
mallet 1/6/2014 8:47:59 PM Report

Wow... must be the cold is freezing everyones fingers, no one wants to say anything, or maybe just the keyboards, or perhaps some do not like getting hoisted on their own petards!!! LOL..
Wisenheimer 1/6/2014 10:28:16 PM Report

What's incredible, is denying their people good jobs and a future.
Also incredible are the enablers that continue the "woe is me" campaign that leads nowhere.
Never any answers, just the same, sad, sympathetic dirge.
"Shut er down boys, there's the ticket."
Wisenheimer 1/6/2014 10:45:00 PM Report

And thank you Grump for the kind words, you little Porcupine.
Your vitriol is palpable.
Mark Brown 1/7/2014 1:07:10 AM Report

Hi Wicket,

I like to use the call back test to determine who I will vote for.

Call Back Test:

1. About three weeks into the election campaign decide for yourself which candidates you feel are worth voting for.

2. Call the Campaign Office of each of the candidates you identified in step 1 and leave a message with a campaign worker to have the candidate call you back. Do not speak to the candidate during this call... just leave a message to have them call you back at their earliest convenience.

3. Vote for the candidate that call you back first.

Because you have waited until three weeks into the election this will give you a good sense of how well organized each candidate and their staff are in terms of returning phone calls to constituents, and it should be a pretty good reflection of how constituent focused the candidate will be if they win the election.

How good is any representative if they won't call you back in a timely fashion?

Good luck Wicket.

Sincerely and Respectfully,
Mark Brown
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