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View Room Comments for Sunday, Jan. 5 2014

Sunday, January 05, 2014   by: The View RoomWelcome to the SooToday.com View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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Grump 1/5/2014 7:19:40 AM Report

Good morning everyone, time to rise and shine and clean up the snow. Have a great day all.
Bobby Nerves 1/5/2014 7:37:16 AM Report

Good morning Grump, don't work hard, it's only Sunday and we have a tough week ahead. Saskatoon and Manitoba are in 50 below windchill and it seems like is gonna last for a while.
Most birds left early this winter and that's a sign of something unusual.
Take care.
Zing 1/5/2014 7:57:16 AM Report

"Saskatoon police say they have a person of interest in the investigation of a five-year-old boy's death that is considered a homicide. "

CBC

I can't imagine how terrible this must be for the family and police. Sad.
Mr. Poster 1/5/2014 8:09:56 AM Report

One would think this would be a winter Lake Superior would freeze shore to shore(a rare occurrence indeed). IF that happens the lake effect snow machine will be turned off. We can only hope.
Bobby Nerves 1/5/2014 8:21:21 AM Report

In the other hand, seems like all people on the shores of the Superior will enjoy a balmy minus 10 to minus 8, at least for today.
lowla 1/5/2014 8:24:21 AM Report

nanag, you are correct about the Big Wish draw. Good thing I didn't throw out my ticket...wish I could say the same about the other tickets I checked lol
Grump 1/5/2014 8:25:08 AM Report

Good morning Bobby. Was going to go over the river for dinner and gas last evening after Church but looked at the weather and went to Lychee Thai instead. Now I have to drag the old girl out of the sack and head over for breakfast and gas. Don't have much on today ,just have to round up some supplies etc. to start another job tomorrow morning. Are you going to join us for lunch on the 15'th?. Try hard to behave today, it's too cold to do much else. lol. ps. don't let Steely lift you up on a box to get a swing at you. lol. I doubt that he is 10' tall so he is just dumb enough to think he is.
Bobby Nerves 1/5/2014 9:53:32 AM Report

Most likely Steely is a good person like you and me, but may have more room for improvement and we can help with that.
soowat 1/5/2014 9:54:33 AM Report

More proof that law-breakers are dumb:

http://www.torontosun.com/2014/01/04/roundup-of-wacky-wrongdoings-from-2013
Spellchecker 1/5/2014 10:00:45 AM Report

Snobank, I just read your last evening's posting about the Everly Brothers. I was surprised no one mentioned the death of Phil Everly yesterday on here. I spent much of yesterday with Everly Brothers' memorabilia. There is a really good hour long youtube on their 1983 reunion concert after their decade long breakup.

Apparently they didn't get along very well after that reunion either. Don is a liberal democrat and Phil was a staunch conservative and they preferred to be out of each other's company for the most part.
BIG BROTHER 1/5/2014 10:03:36 AM Report

'U.S. will not send troops to Iraq, to help fight the Al Qaeda.' John Kerry

Mission; still not accomplished. Actually, situation deteriorated to train wreck status.

I wonder what happened to the citizens standing on the streets cheering the US troops for freeing them from the grip of Saddam's tyranny, as per Cheney and Dubya's predictions.
Spellchecker 1/5/2014 10:13:19 AM Report

The United States is war weary and is retreating into isolationism. Regardless of common perception on here in regard to our southern neighbours this will not end well for our western world.
mallet 1/5/2014 10:48:03 AM Report


Big Brother..

How about the U S's interference in the Middle East, Tunisia eastward. Seems that "Western Democracy" does not always take into account the differences of the people involved. The West says that all these peoples should have a democratic form of government, but it does not seem to be working out like our leaders Obama, Harper, Cameron etc said it should, I wonder why??
flyhawk25 1/5/2014 11:15:46 AM Report

Democracy is a western affectation and ideal not understood nor embraced by tribal cultures fighting ancient wars.
Even the American model is a myth. Democracy is a lovely theory but an impractical application to the current model of consumer driven greed.
The rich do not want to share with the poor.That's why the new pope makes them nervous.
Remember Nixon's 'domino theory' for southeast Asia?Crock of poop started by Ike and fed by greed and the slaughter of the poor by lower class soldiers who were fed American patriotic bullshit.
The military/industrial complex got rich and the peasants got dead.
Democracy must come from the wishes and needs of the average person - not imposed by another culture.
BIG BROTHER 1/5/2014 12:04:03 PM Report

mallet,
The US has been interfering in world affairs since they developed the dream of Independence from the Britain. 'Manifest Destiny' is more than a slogan. It was/is a foreign policy of the US, based upon some whacked out belief that they are merely following through on god's will.

Interference in other countries governance is one thing. Physical, military imposition of your will on another country is 'dead wrong'. They should have learned from their Vietnam experience, but sadly, that effort didn't teach them a damn thing. Perhaps, if Dubya had actually done his duty in Vietnam, he may have brought that experience to the 'decision room', when discussing the pros and cons of attacking Iraq and Afghanistan, basically at the same time. No wonder they are war weary, as you stated.

Personally, IMO, Bush did more damage to that country than can possibly be repaired. They are hated almost universally, because, as Fly states, they lost their moral compass. Follow the money, democracy be damned. And Christianity is a smoke screen.
Wisenheimer 1/5/2014 12:30:42 PM Report

Breaking News .. "if you're under the age of 40, you have never experienced the cold that the U.S. will this weekend."
If you believe man-made global warming is causing it, your I.Q. and age are running neck and neck.
Wisenheimer 1/5/2014 12:40:55 PM Report

Fly .. brother Grump is heading across the ditch to buy cheap gas and $1.99 breakfast!
You'll need to give him a talking to later on. Imagine the tax revenue squandered and his apparent support of slave labour.
Grump 1/5/2014 12:43:30 PM Report

Good Lord Wisen are you trying to tell us that there are more like you in the 40 IQ range. .Terrible
DutchTouch 1/5/2014 12:57:43 PM Report

Spelly, I remember having Everly Brothers posters on my bedroom wall and buying their 45 rpm records. Every payday I bought the latest.

mallet, Big Brother and Flyhawk. All your posts make sense to me.
In their endeavor to change the world, the USA has instead made a worse mess of things. You'd think they'd learn after a few tries but I guess the belief that they are sanctioned by God keeps prodding them on.
As Dr. Phil would ask, "How's that working for you?"
Grump 1/5/2014 1:01:56 PM Report

Big Brother While I worked in Saudi I brought my mother over to visit for three winters. No small feat to get an unattached woman into the Country ,even a widowed mother. The women tend to spend time at various Embassies doing charitable work. Being a teacher with a fair bit of teaching English to Immigrants after the war, she was asked to teach English to former female slaves. Slavery was not abolished in Saudi until 1949. To make a long story shorter they could learn English but were not able to learn to function on their own. Bringing Democracy to people who have been ruled and abused by one despot or another will take Centuries if even possible. As they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
flyhawk25 1/5/2014 1:28:56 PM Report

Democracy in the US is an inconvenience for the ruling elite. They wrap themselves in the flag with a bible in one hand and a gun in the other.
Then they change election boundaries, make voter ID difficult among minorities and create hanging chads.
When that fails they revert to old fashioned vote buying.Small wonder that Detroit is bankrupt and their last mayor is in prison or the the last five Illinois governors have had prison time.
Democracy my arse.
mallet 1/5/2014 2:08:51 PM Report


Jesus H... What is with you people? do you all have an anal fetish, there's Grump with his furry and laughing and now Flyhawk with his Detroit one.. I am going to see if Sootoday will set up a "Fetish" page for all you people who like bums..

I like the way Flyhawk has slid in that it's the Britishers fault that the Americans have turned out, with a colonial type idea for all countries that are not like them. But what the heck, blame them lot over the pond for everything, they got broad shoulders... and weak minds!!!

Ah but I got all my trade tickets here in Canada.. before you start taking shots...
DutchTouch 1/5/2014 2:17:54 PM Report

mallet....what was all THAT about??????
BIG BROTHER 1/5/2014 2:28:36 PM Report

Heard on CBC this AM, as they were discussing the famous writers who lubricated their creative juices with alcohol. I believe it was an F. Scott Fitzgerald quote:

'First, I have a drink. Then, the drink has a drink. Then, the drink has me'.

realitycheck 1/5/2014 2:37:04 PM Report

"If you believe man-made global warming is causing it, your I.Q. and age are running neck and neck."

Wisen:
Jeez,man, no one is saying global warming is man-made, just that man could be helping it along. And as far as the cold snaps this winter, there have always been ups and downs throughout years and even the centuries. With comments like the above, you put yourself at a level with those you decry.
flyhawk25 1/5/2014 2:43:08 PM Report

mallet...what in the world are you smoking?
I never blamed the Brits for anything.Except the potato famine and that was a while ago.
mallet 1/5/2014 2:59:06 PM Report


Flyhawk...

Sorry, but when you start talking about democracy and Americans this all leads back to England, when we got rid of a lot of religious nuts way back when, and then you booted us out, but still kept the language (sort of) and the basis of law (sort of).. So really when you think about these things a lot of blame ends up on the Britishers fault. That piddly little island has a lot to answer for really..
BIG BROTHER 1/5/2014 3:24:58 PM Report

Well fly, guess that clears that up.

World junior tourney is headed into OT. Should be a grand finish. Canada has got to get the politics out of junior hockey and get back to the basics. Agents with too much power and primadonna clients, are picking teams, IMO.
Oldie Goldie 1/5/2014 4:35:03 PM Report

Big Brother---I agree with you but it wasn't who they selected but those that they overlooked---Those selected lost--those who were not selected won--IMHO
Snobank 1/5/2014 6:53:27 PM Report

I have never seen a U.S. official tell it like it is on t.v. before, and especially on Fox. Perhaps this is why he was cancelled?

http://tiny.cc/u6m88w
Wisenheimer 1/5/2014 7:07:26 PM Report

Dear Reality .. Yes there are those who believe climate change is "man-made".
Their names are Robert Redford, Darryl Hannah, Al Gore, Dalton McGuinty, David Suzuki, Barrack Obama and the bozos stuck in the ice in the Antarctic.
Generally a harmless lot except when elected to positions of political power.
In power, like McGuinty and Obama they make stupid decisions that cause your hydro bills to skyrocket.
Think Solyndra, the Samsung wind/solar deal, delaying natural gas use in transportation, and the Keystone XL pipeline. My I.Q. analogy stands.
Sorry Mallet.
flyhawk25 1/5/2014 7:28:50 PM Report

I suppose if you live in a one dimensional world that Fox and Sun Media feed to linear thinkers that would be gospel.
But if ignorance makes your Fruit Loops taste better go for it.
mallet 1/5/2014 8:01:06 PM Report


Wisen...

I don't know why you are sorry, I do not think half the worlds leaders ever look at things in a logical manner. Mostly it is a knee jerk reaction to a powerful lobby group whether it be eco or power hungry groups. Each has its own agenda, now if some have a lower IQ that is not for me to know or say.
shakespeare 1/5/2014 9:32:16 PM Report

Wisen: You seem a little celebrity-struck. I don't think that the majority care about the celebs that seem to enthral you. I personally read copiously (a lot) on climate change and it is a complicated issue. To deny man-made pollution issues is to be a .. a Weisenheimer. You obviously think much of yourself and I think you are in a minority ...Education is a great thing; posturing is not.
lookaround 1/5/2014 9:40:52 PM Report

Wisen you are so one sided...sad to be that way. Glad that you think you are worthy of yourself but then again no one cares Wisen. Get educated instead tap dancing on the keyboard. God help you
Wisenheimer 1/5/2014 11:18:04 PM Report

I'll be ok guys ... Just commenting on stories of topical interest.
Mallet ... I was referring to my use of the word "analogy" and your observation that some posters are overly anal.
Mark Brown 1/6/2014 6:03:10 AM Report

Hi all,

Without having done any reading on climate change at all it is perfectly obvious that we humans are PART OF nature. We are not separate from nature. We humans, therefore, are an integral part of the ecosystem called earth.

It goes without saying that the things we humans do affect the ecosystem.

The problem with human-assisted climate change, if it exists at all, and too many scientists to ignore say it does, is that its consequences are far off in the future.

It's like saying that you're probably going to die of some form of cancer if you smoke... yeah, but you're not going to die of cancer after you smoke your next cigarette... you're EVENTUALLY going to die of cancer maybe.

It would be interesting to see how many people smoked if one cigarette in every pack contained a lethal dose of cyanide :(, but I digress...

We're reaching the point where significant numbers of people are concerned about the effects of human behaviour on world climate, and those people think it is worth trying to modify our behaviour to, again, affect our ecosystem in terms of climate.

The question is, and always has been, is it WORTH IT to change our human behaviour?

For those who focus on the SHORT TERM economic consequences ("the smokers") the answer is no, it is not worth it to change our behaviour.

For those who focus on the LONG TERM future of the earth which will be inherited by our children, and grandchildren, and great grandchildren, and ("the non-smokers")... the answer is yes, it is worth it to change our behaviour.

As the death of the earth gets closer the short term economic consequences will not matter so much.

Sincerely and Respectfully,
Mark Brown

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