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View Room Comments for Friday, Jan. 3 2014

Friday, January 03, 2014   by: The Soap BoxWelcome to the View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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bounder 1/3/2014 7:02:12 AM Report

Good morning boys and girls,
not as cold.
Re:Bridge traffic increase in yesterdays news, they forgot to mention oil changes at Walmart in the USA, $17.00 bucks includes oil and filter,here at most dealers, around $40.00 to $50.00 plus.You will not do it cheaper yourself.
Jimssm 1/3/2014 7:10:50 AM Report

Good morning everyone.

I just thought I'd say that before the fighting starts.

Have a good day.
Jimssm 1/3/2014 7:27:41 AM Report


There is a reason Walmart oil changes are only $17, and it's not because the dealers over here are ripping you off.

..... but if they're able to get fox meat into their five spice donkey meat in China, I'm sure their oil is perfectly fine for your car....and I'm sure those guys making $5/hr really care about the quality of their work...... / sarc off

flyhawk25 1/3/2014 7:47:42 AM Report always amazes me that someone could spend $20K+ for a vehicle and then cut corners on maintenance.Often they will spend $5K on a stereo system for it and then put cheap replacement tires on the vehicle.
Priorities I suppose.
bounder 1/3/2014 7:54:40 AM Report

I tried a few dealers here and had to remind them that the studs on the wheels needed to be torqued.Walmart did it with no problems and cheaper.
Please tell me that you have nothing in your houses that is not made in China.
Mr. Poster 1/3/2014 7:58:50 AM Report

How can an oil change in Soo Michigan be that cheap?(I could not get the url mentioned above to open).
Wild Turkey 1/3/2014 7:59:10 AM Report

I thought I would "get in"before the fireworks begin.
Good morning every one!!
I thought yesterday would be a very slow day, here in The Blue Room.
I thought that everyone,s New Years resolutions would still be in effect and the Posts if any, would be, educational. thought provoking, and occasionally humourous.Boy was I wrong.And to think there was a whole bunch of really good hockey games to watch while this war was unfolding.Allow me to get you started to-day.
I see it as an attention getter.People are talking about it and that is a good thing.As some posters suggested, we can,t continue on as we are.
In the 70's there was an alarming decline in the number of bald eagles, and peregrine falcons.Somebody figured out that D.D.T. was the cause of the problem---so they banned this poison, and the Big birds have since made a remarkable comeback.By discussing problems, solutions are found.
I would like to remind people on here that your posts are viewed all over the world.Do we want to come across as a bunch of bozos?
I would like to appoint Spelly as the site monitor.Spelly, at the end of the day, you should announce the best, and worst posts of the day.We will soon see a return to a smorgasbord of witty, thought provoking, and interesting posts.
Thank you all for reading this ,and on your mark, get set, GO!!!!!
bounder 1/3/2014 8:07:20 AM Report

They buy oil filters by the case and oil by the barrel, quantity is the key word here, it always amazes me how others put people down.
Grump 1/3/2014 8:11:28 AM Report

Good morning everyone, still seems a tad cool out there to me. A good article on this site about a dozen MPs who should be watched this year. Sort of tells you where Harper will likely be. Have a great day everyone.
Bobby Nerves 1/3/2014 8:13:58 AM Report

jimssm, said:

..... but if they're able to get fox meat into their five spice donkey meat in China, I'm sure their oil is perfectly fine for your car....and I'm sure those guys making $5/hr really care about the quality of their work...... / sarc off

SQ's garage, located in town, offers you an oil change, plus a basic checkup of your vehicle, few sarcastic smiles, all while you enjoy the ST official chef road kill of the day, fox soup and raccoon escabeche.

All that, not for five but not much above it, of course, all is about how deep your pockets are you willing to go.
Grump 1/3/2014 8:36:38 AM Report

Morning Bobby, I'm with you there. When my truck quit several months ago I sent it up to SQ but soon realized I had left several key rings in the truck that I needed. Within an hour he had diagnosed the problem, ordered the part and installed it. Most mechanics would still be looking for it. It was a small circuit board hidden up on the frame that controlled the pump in the gas tank. Great service, very reasonable prices. That said even my cast iron gut can't handle the road kill specials. lol
redranger 1/3/2014 9:01:26 AM Report

Where is SQ's garage.
flyhawk25 1/3/2014 9:21:41 AM Report

The 'bargain hunters' will never agree with us but I leave my money here with local merchants over chains when possible.
By his own admission SQ will never get rich owning a two bay shop. But he controls his own destiny and pays taxes and lives here.
I pay more for my televisions and jewelry at local shops and get excellent service.I buy much of my food at small local stores and know the owners.
None of them is getting rich but they add to the SSM tapestry.I made a living from tax dollars here and feel I owe it to locals to support them.
bounder 1/3/2014 9:22:40 AM Report

Wild Turkey
I see your post was an excersize in futility.
bounder 1/3/2014 9:23:45 AM Report

you must be barred from the USA.
Mr. Poster 1/3/2014 9:25:57 AM Report

Not everyone can afford to shop Canadian.
flyhawk25 1/3/2014 9:27:29 AM Report

Oh sure. I am barred from stupidity so I won't bother debating the issue with you.
bounder 1/3/2014 9:31:37 AM Report


cause and effect, my effective post had an affected reply.
theprotector 1/3/2014 9:46:06 AM Report

for clarification...and to make a you mean "buy canadian"? or "buy in canada'?
Zing 1/3/2014 9:46:15 AM Report

"Get your flu shot, experts suggest, as spike in H1N1 cases expected to spread"

CTV News

OK, I was beginning to get a little worried that we would have to go get the H1N1 flu virus immunization shot (which really hurt my arm in 2009) so I decided to call the Algoma Health Unit.

They advised me that the H1N1 is covered with the regular flu shot I already received.

theprotector 1/3/2014 9:49:38 AM Report

yeah they added it to the shot after the last outbreak from what I understand.
Wisenheimer 1/3/2014 10:05:43 AM Report

Oil Change
1. Have evil Wally U.S. guy raise car.
2. He will remove oil and filter.
3. He will replace oil and filter with same products that Goober uses over here.
4.You pay $20 as opposed to $50 at local dealership, whose "technician" forgets to put oil cap back on.

Rejoice that you live in a border town that provides "choice" that libs are so fond of.

bounder 1/3/2014 10:14:26 AM Report

Had an oil change here once and they drained the transmission and put twice as much oil in the motor. I wasn't happy.
BIG BROTHER 1/3/2014 10:30:52 AM Report

Biff's Cheap Oil Change: leaking brake hose and you're not advised. Muffler clamp rotten,; who cares. Any other issues, you're on your own.

Mechanic Supervised Oil Change: minor service call. Other mechanical issues noted or, if minor enough, addressed by the mechanic.

I've experienced both. Sometimes, time is a factor. Speedy Lube (emphasis on speedy)...usually done by a 'kid', but quick and cheap. No other diagnosis' given. Done in a mechanics shop, extras provided.

Quality of oil is a factor. Even off the shelf at Canadian Tire, oil has various prices, according to the quality of the oil. Just because it meets minimum standards, doesn't equate to equal quality.
flyhawk25 1/3/2014 10:31:58 AM Report

To all the cross border shoppers - enjoy your experience.
Just don't complain about tax rates and hospital wait times.You lost the right to bitch when you went south for bargains.
And that goes double for all those who proudly never vote.
That's all your choice. Now live with the consequences.
old-cat33 1/3/2014 10:35:04 AM Report

How long have them stupid flu shots been around? Any way one year I skipped my shot because I was to busy and man oh man did I get sick!!
So get your shot and if you do get sick your not out of comission that long.
Spellchecker 1/3/2014 10:46:56 AM Report

We ALL live with the consequences of big government. Makes no difference whether you vote or whether you don't. No pride involved in the decision, there are other considerations.

Daniel 4:17
Spellchecker 1/3/2014 10:51:30 AM Report

Many who vote have no idea what they are voting for and some who do are voting for what they erroneously think are free goodies.
flyhawk25 1/3/2014 10:54:35 AM Report

Ahh...nothing like a literal interpretation of an ancient book.
Trust me I looked it up because I named my son that name.
Spellchecker 1/3/2014 10:56:14 AM Report

Trust me also. That ancient book was written for our era.
Grump 1/3/2014 11:06:54 AM Report

Old-cat 33 Yes I can relate to that. About a dozen years ago I was a tough guy (in my mind lol) and didn't take flu shots. I got it good, couldn't keep anything down, was in bed for two weeks either freezing or with the sweat pouring out of me. This not so tough guy takes his shots faithfully now and other that a touch of a cold once or twice hasn't been sick since. Well I guess there is no point getting older without trying to get a little brighter. Tough work though.
66cherokee 1/3/2014 11:07:15 AM Report

We occasionally, and very occasionally go across the border to shop. I love their dairy. It reminds me of the milk I used to drink growing up. You also really have to know your prices, and let me tell you there are lots that are more or even the same cost, plus you have to convert your money into US funds. You are paying about 9 to 10 cents on the dollar. I shop locally as much as possible. Also, oil change is done at home. Tires bought locally, you just have to look around for a good price, and of course good tires. There will never be a made in "china" tire on our vehicles. When shopping I look for made in Canada or USA, and it is hard to find. They may be a little more expensive, but it keeps a Canadian working. Most things are made in China and you get what you pay for. Maybe a year's worth of wear.
soowat 1/3/2014 11:24:00 AM Report


As the old saying goes,"We are too soon old and too late smart."
Zing 1/3/2014 11:26:46 AM Report

Speaking of dairy, did you know that Kraft Philadelphia Cream Cheese doesn't even contain cream?

You have to get cream cheese in the good ol' USA where the first two ingredients are milk and cream.

I will not be eating any of the Canadian cream cheese anytime soon. It's made with 'milk ingredients' imported from Australia or New Zealand....whichever is the cheapest.

Chemical Soup!
Spellchecker 1/3/2014 11:31:32 AM Report

Sunnidelight sighting, under a news story. Guess she's given up on the blue room.
Spellchecker 1/3/2014 11:33:58 AM Report

Must be too many of us righties around.
theprotector 1/3/2014 11:47:46 AM Report

To the bible thumpers out there can you answer why various books of the bible have been left out such as but not limited to: The Life of Adam and Eve, The Book of Enoch, The Book of Jubilees, The Infancy Gospel of Thomas, The Gospel of Mary, The Apocalypse of Peter?
old-cat33 1/3/2014 11:50:46 AM Report

Grump: Did the same thing.Tried to be be the big wig and got so sick I think that I gave myself a hernia throwing up! (lesson learnt) I play hockey with doctors and everybody else in the medical field and they all say to get the flu shot. Now in some medical professions I think it's mandatory to get your shot?
realitycheck 1/3/2014 11:53:11 AM Report

"Trust me also. That ancient book was written for our era."

Are you saying it was written only for our era and none of those that have gone before?
northernmale 1/3/2014 12:36:24 PM Report

I try to by local and shop here most of the time. If I decide to go over the river for dinner I will fill up with gas and pick up some dairy products.Hell would Freeze over before I ever purchased a product made by our local dairy. I will never give a cent I make to them. And I wonder how anyone that reads anything in the news would. But that is just my own thoughts.
Cynical Blonde 1/3/2014 1:56:44 PM Report

Looking at the poll on the home page-wasn't the Costa Concordia in January 2012? It was raised and moved in Sept 2013, but the accident surely isn't the news story of the past year!
Just Curious 1/3/2014 2:00:02 PM Report

@northernmale, information only, no argument intended, just wondered why you hate Lock City so much???
flyhawk25 1/3/2014 2:07:48 PM Report

northernmale...I know the argument re. Lock City.
I choose to buy their products because they are local and do many good things in our community.
Just Curious 1/3/2014 2:20:10 PM Report

That is what I was wondering about too, Fly. I don't give a damn what Vic does in his own life(we all have done things we shouldn't), he employs lots of local people and supports a lot of local things. Without his support you might as well just light a candle at the waterfront fireworks display. Boycotting Lock City Dairies is kinda like kicking yourself in the gonads, you are only hurting yourself. At least his milk is from somewhere in the north, unlike the rest that comes from southern Ontario...
Jimssm 1/3/2014 2:25:14 PM Report


.... so you know all about Vic.

What do you know about the owner(s) of the dairy producing your American milk ?
Jimssm 1/3/2014 2:28:16 PM Report

Walmart is getting a reputation for poor quality and/or tainted products....

....... in China.

That says it all.
TFinn 1/3/2014 2:44:11 PM Report

northernmale 1/3/2014 12:36:24 PM

You try to shop Canada ?? ...BUT you go for dinner, you gas up and you buy cheese over the ditch's that again try to buy in Canada their are some amazing eatery's here, gas on most major corners ..hell you can even buy quality cheese here ..! If you don't like a certain individual that's up to you. However I happen to know first hand the dollars Lock City puts back into the Soo ..! I can say with some certainty a lot more than you ..!!
Just Curious 1/3/2014 3:29:57 PM Report

At my age I enjoy a lot of free stuff that I couldn't possibly afford south of the ditch. A friend of mine has a relative south of the ditch in big trouble now that up here is totally covered. Shop over the river all you want but don't complain about ANYTHING on this side, you don't have the right...
Wisenheimer 1/3/2014 3:41:15 PM Report

I just complained about the guy over here leaving my oil cap off. Is that ok ??
Oh and charging me 50 bucks for the privilege.
Is it ok if I go to Florida for a while to get away from this global warming thingy ?
Just Curious 1/3/2014 5:01:39 PM Report

Wisen, that kind of crap can and will happen wherever you shop. Friend of mine blew an engine 'cause the underneath guy didn't put the plug back in.. it's all covered by insurance on this side but you are never sure over there. As a Canadian you can't sue somebody over there as you aren't a citizen.. Don't know where you work but I'm sure your paycheque is made out in Canada and at the end of your days you will be whining to get all the benefits we get here that americans don't get and would get really pissed off if they deducted all the money you spent over the river in your life. One day it will come back to bite you in the ass and you won't stop whining about the way the Government is treating you. Shop away.. In the end you get no bargains and don't deserve any..
JWT 1/3/2014 5:29:16 PM Report

I have been a cross-border shopper, usually for diesel fuel and lunch once a week. Out of country health insurance has become really expensive for me recently so I stay in Ontario now. A insurance agent was telling me about a local shopper who didn't have "out of country" insurance and was taken to hospital (car accident) in Soo, MI, and now has a $77,000.00 medical expense that may result in loss of her home. This sort of cuts into any savings there may be.
Bobby Nerves 1/3/2014 5:31:27 PM Report

Wisenheimer, yes you can go to Florida, but pray for a good health, because you're gonna be farting in technicolor should you have a health issue to be solved there.

Not that I'm wishing you any bad, but you know, things happens, black ice... slide on the shoulder... a DUI; that's something you have no control over and it's not that you may drive erratically or DUI, but the other drivers, over which you have no control.
bounder 1/3/2014 5:51:46 PM Report

There's a turkey plater for sale on Soo today ,
anyone fit that description I'll pay for it and deliver,free of charge.
Wisenheimer 1/3/2014 6:09:00 PM Report

Have had health issues in Florida .. just make sure you have insurance before heading off.
Pretty simple stuff.
Gurpy 1/3/2014 6:09:31 PM Report

The protector
What is a "bible thumper?" and why would you ask anyone on this site? Why not contact one of the local churches and get it straight from the horses mouth. Sounds like you don`t have much use for the bible anyhow if your`re throwing terms like that around.
Bobby Nerves 1/3/2014 6:35:30 PM Report

Wisen... if you had health issues in Florida and you hit the insurance pot, I'm afraid your trips and your insurance coverage is not as pinky as you pretend to show it to us.
66cherokee 1/3/2014 6:45:04 PM Report

As I was listening to the weather tonight for Toronto and the east coast, it reminded me of the year 1970/71 with record snow, and does anyone remember the year the Sault got 5 feet of snow in a week-end. Wow, that was something. As I listened, it brought me back to the years I lived in Wawa. It was always cold, snowing lots, winds, but you just dressed for it. I mean it Northern Ontario, and I love it.
Bobby Nerves 1/3/2014 6:47:57 PM Report


To your post 9:01:26 I do know and also Grump knows and few other people here, but if I remember well, the last time someone hinted about that, the sandstorm started and lasted till two or three scapegoats were executed.

If you have a way to touch base with someone privately that will be the best way, otherwise, wait till the very own office chef of Sootoday shows up.
DutchTouch 1/3/2014 6:55:30 PM Report

66cherokee.....we lived in northern Ontario communities for many years.
I can't say I loved the winters but as you say we dressed for them and learned to live according to the climate.
I still love "the north" and wouldn't trade that way of life with Toronto any day.
lookaround 1/3/2014 9:28:33 PM Report

Blessed we have not been graced with Steelworker.
steelworker 1/3/2014 9:35:12 PM Report

Greetings from the smart side.
Wisenheimer 1/3/2014 10:21:00 PM Report

Paid up front, but had it all re-imbursed thru OHIP and out of country top up.
Even the ambulance.
Doubt til you're blue in the face.
Wisenheimer 1/3/2014 10:27:17 PM Report

66 ... It was 1993 l believe. Station Mall roof collapsed. The year after it was - 30 every day in January.
Man made global warming was just getting going I'm guessing.
Just Curious 1/3/2014 10:50:16 PM Report

Think you are right there, Wisen, or real close.. Had 3 vehicles then and kept them hooked together, in the morning at least 1 would start and then the rest after that.. People complain about the weather now but back then -15/20 was a nice day. I used to have a house on 2nd Ave and was snowed in for the best part of a week,walked out to 2nd line to pick up a ride to work at Soo Foundry(on Drive-in road,not downtown where they started).. Sometimes I actually miss the old days, but then again, I was younger...LOL.:).
Just Curious 1/3/2014 10:57:43 PM Report

G'night Gracie, I'm going to bed.. You guys play nice and I will check the archives in the morning.. LOL.. :).
Bobby Nerves 1/3/2014 11:12:20 PM Report

Huh, a couple hours ago, as I was sitting here, I felt the house floor shaking, but as I have that peripheral nervous damage... thought it could be me feeling that way. Now, I've read that frost quakes does exist and are felt as earthquakes.

Huh, this is something that wasn't explained by the global warming gurus.
atticus 1/4/2014 12:56:57 AM Report

Wisen, I remember the year well. Cold snap started Dec 26 '94 Boxing Day and didn't let up until Feb 14 '95 Valentine's Day. I had a bad knee, weather related, in tandem. Didn't stop us though. When the high was predicted to be anything more than -29 we considered it to be balmy and headed out to the woodlot on weekends. That work kept us warm.
steelworker 1/4/2014 4:53:11 AM Report

That shaking you felt was Al Gore dropping his wallet.
Zing 1/4/2014 7:13:17 AM Report

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