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Spellchecker 1/2/2014 5:11:58 AM Report

I will vouch for the original Shakey's 11:21 PM post in yesterday's archive for those who missed it. I remember him from the early days of the blue room.

However, because you post in extremely rare cases, Mr. Original Shakey, I don't think we can be faulted for thinking you do not exist.

Perhaps after all this time of calling shakespeare shakey we can try to remember to call him by his alternate nickname, shakes.
David Poluck 1/2/2014 6:12:37 AM Report

Wow! It's already Thursday!
Good morning!
Just Curious 1/2/2014 7:34:14 AM Report

And it's a darned chilly one too, David. Walked the mutts this AM about 6:30 and one wanted right back in and the other wanted a long walk. Wish they had both wanted to come right in...:)
learningaswego 1/2/2014 8:03:46 AM Report

Just about time for the Goracle and the other "climate" billionaires to come out with a new term; to extort money from the gullible.
Global Warming was a bust; Climate Change - not happening.....so let's see...how about....

Weather Unpredictability.

Yeah, that's the ticket. Al can say he invented it, with the Internet; and gouge the world's gullible for a few more billion.
Bobby Nerves 1/2/2014 8:48:54 AM Report

They know very well that weather can't be predicted, therefore, there is money to be made with peoples uncertainty and fears.

These are the same exact people who made money using derivative in the market. And they made wagons of money.

There is money to be made when humanity's steering wheel is shaking.
theprotector 1/2/2014 8:57:22 AM Report

yep its all a fraud, what were we thnking? Imagine thinking that dumping trillions of tons of pollution into the water and air would have any impact on the environment. Hell Im going to walk down to the harbour, drill a hole and dump my 5 gallons of snow blower gas right down the hole, just because you guys say its a fraud and doesnt cause any harm to the environment. Geez imagine how embarrassed I am right now thinking somethings are just simply bad for the enviornment. And to think I actually listened to the majority of world experts, instead all I had to do was come to this site and listen to you guys!
Grump 1/2/2014 8:57:30 AM Report

Good morning everyone, and it is a tad cooler this a.m. Shakey my apologies, I didn't know we had a pair of you. In deference to your seniority the other fellow will have to become Shakes as Spelly suggested because I'm too lazy to type out his full handle. Have a great New year fellows
Grump 1/2/2014 9:00:12 AM Report

Good morning Bobby, how was your BBQ? The protector are you doubting our local experts? LMAO
Zing 1/2/2014 9:03:28 AM Report

Sometime today if/when it warms up a little, I have a job to do. I need to get on my long-johns and walk to the corner with my blowtorch and attempt to unlock my mailbox.
I haven't been able to get the thing open since last year!
Bobby Nerves 1/2/2014 9:08:15 AM Report

Good morning Grump.

Good!

Any doubts about investments, I'll paste here a short story, which it may have happened, or perhaps it's the truth, and never happened.

Read on for a good lesson:

Once upon a time in a village in India, a man announced to the villagers that he would buy monkeys for $10.

The villagers seeing there were many monkeys around, went out to the forest and started catching them.

The man bought thousands at $10, but, as the supply started to diminish, the villagers stopped their efforts. The man further announced that he would now buy at $20. This renewed the efforts of the villagers and they started catching monkeys again.

Soon the supply diminished even further and people started going back to their farms. The offer rate increased to $25 and the supply of monkeys became so little that it was an effort to even see a monkey, let alone catch it!

The man now announced that he would buy monkeys at $50! However, since he had to go to the city on some business, his assistant would now act as buyer, on his behalf.

In the absence of the man, the assistant told the villagers, �Look at all these monkeys in the big cage that the man has collected. I will sell them to you at $35 and when he returns from the city, you can sell them back to him for $50.�

The villagers squeezed together their savings and bought all the monkeys.

Then they never saw the man or his assistant again, only monkeys everywhere! Welcome to WALL STREET.
Grump 1/2/2014 9:11:54 AM Report

Zing pour lots of lock de-icer into it, then when you apply the blow torch it will warm up quicker.lol.
Zing 1/2/2014 9:29:52 AM Report

lol@grump. I would use gas if I didn't have to pay for a new lock. I'm on my fourth one so far; once I bought a weatherproof one and the damned thing would not fit through the opening ring.

It's -25 C now....brrrrr cold!
Nunavut 1/2/2014 9:45:16 AM Report

So "theprotector" thinks that pouring gasoline into the river is the same thing as the earth and mankind expelling CO2 an element that is required for plants and life. I am expelling some even as I write.

As soon as I see someone blindly calling CO2 pollution, I realize they are as gullible as Goracle wanted them to be.

Please refrain from assuming that those of us that did not buy into the global warming fraud , still do not care about actual pollution. We fully support efforts to prevent pollution dumping in our waters and air. We are just not as gullible as you about c02 and the worlds way of absorbing it and balancing it. Meanwhile the records are now showing no global warming as yet and oceans still the same level and the polar bears are thriving, and Gore has bought some more ocean front land from his tour money..............hmmm
Big Bad Bob 1/2/2014 10:15:57 AM Report

Bobby Nerves
Not only do I like your name, I like your following definition:
�They know very well that weather can't be predicted, therefore, there is money to be made with people�s uncertainty and fears.�
It reminds me of the efforts of the wizards who write up horoscopes. At one stage of my life in Ottawa, my work-mate, my secretary, our clerk and I were all Capricorns. One of our standing jokes was to try to guess each morning what was in store for all of us that day.
Christina216 1/2/2014 10:39:22 AM Report

i hate p.u.c...can someone please explain to me why on the bill we have summer off peak, mid peak and on peak...AND winter on,off,and mid peak charges? Here i thought i was doing good. my last two bills had a negative balance of almost 20 dollars..then BOOM..heres an almost 500 dollar bill. that includes the 10% ont clean energy benefit and tge 17 dollars i was negative.. my rant for the day
theprotector 1/2/2014 10:46:11 AM Report

Nunavut no you dont..you could careless.
and yes the records show otherwise sorry you are soundly wrong and have no evidence to support your position.
Nunavut 1/2/2014 11:08:43 AM Report

heres just one, from this week, for "the protector" our resident enviro nazi.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/irony-of-global-warming-lost-on-icetrapped-scientists/story-fni0cwl5-1226792674036
Spellchecker 1/2/2014 11:16:30 AM Report

Good one, Nunavut. I read it but I doubt that it will grace theprotecor's computer screen.
Spellchecker 1/2/2014 11:17:34 AM Report

theprotector
Spellchecker 1/2/2014 11:18:35 AM Report

He will realize it doesn't support his position so he will prefer to leave his head in the sand.
Gurpy 1/2/2014 11:19:02 AM Report

Christina 216
You`re frightening me! I`ve been ahead with my PUC also. Had a bill last week. So far so good. I`m still in the clear! Hoping to keep it that way. Warmer temps would be welcomed!
Wisenheimer 1/2/2014 11:21:59 AM Report

C216 .. If you voted for the provincial Liberal party you can squeal all you like about your energy bills. If you continue to vote for them you will get more of the same. This is a party who installed 123 megs of wind generation in the province, and forces other more economical sources to either shut down or divert at a loss.
On June 9th the hottest day of the year only 25 megs of wind were being produced out of 23,000 megs being used. 25 megs of almost free energy was spilled at Beck at Niagara to make room for the nonsense of what Nunavut speaks.
Christina216 1/2/2014 11:24:14 AM Report

i cant be cheap with my heat either. i have my 90 year old grandma in law living with us and my 10 month old baby..need to keep them warm. lose lose situation for me :(
Christina216 1/2/2014 11:26:38 AM Report

Wisen...i dont vote. they are all a bunch of crooks.
Spellchecker 1/2/2014 11:30:00 AM Report

Hear hear. Three cheers for Christina, rah rah rah.
Spellchecker 1/2/2014 11:32:19 AM Report

Daniel 4:17

;)
theprotector 1/2/2014 11:39:24 AM Report

2 Maccabees 12:43-45, 2.000 pieces of silver were sent to Jerusalem for a sin-offering...Whereupon he made reconciliation for the dead, that they might be delivered from sin.



see its all about the money!
Gurpy 1/2/2014 11:40:42 AM Report

Christina 216
If you own your own home, it may be time for a wood stove. I`d give almost anything for one! I`m on electric heat also but am able to skimp as you put it. Haven`t been getting much in the way of visitors since the Fall. Can`t imagine why? lol
Shakey 1/2/2014 11:47:59 AM Report


thanks Spelly...you're the best
Zing 1/2/2014 11:52:40 AM Report

OMG, there IS a Shakey!

I wonder if Shakes knows this.

mallet 1/2/2014 12:08:06 PM Report


All I can say is that I would like to discuss with the proponents of global warming or whatever they want to call it today, outside in their skivvies with me in my skidoo suit.
lookaround 1/2/2014 12:08:50 PM Report

Welcome to 2014 when the feds stick it to us again without a tax reduction and an increase in EI and CPP contributions. We have not had one tax decrease and yet the deficit and debt rises from a zero deficit in 2005. Well the polls are showing a stark contrast between what we have now and hopefully what we will have in 2015 and that is not the Conservatives.
mallet 1/2/2014 12:09:24 PM Report


But I should have made it clear on my deck here at my home!!!

Perhaps they would like to clear the snow first though!!
northernmale 1/2/2014 12:11:08 PM Report

I have electric heat in my house two years ago I said enough is enough , I put in two gas fire places I heat all of my house with them my bill last month $108 . This morning I called gas hot water tank coming. The PUC will only bankrupt you,And rates going up again.Then I get my Puc bill $263 dollars, so how do I cut back now shut off the lights. Oh yes and I purchased a gas dryer its going in soon. Will be keeping my fingers crossed gas don't screw me like the PUC has.
Just Curious 1/2/2014 12:14:28 PM Report

@ Gurpy; you should maybe start thinking about gas-fired hot water heating. Not an earth-shaking change to install in most homes and the whole unit is about the size of a large suitcase. The difference in costs between that and electric heat is just mindboggling. rw can probably give way more details than I can but my son in law changed a few years ago and swears by it...:) I was gonna put in an outdoor hot water unit at my place in Goulais but poor health made me move closer to town..
Gurpy 1/2/2014 12:25:46 PM Report

Just Curious
Great idea! One little problem...I`m a renter! My goal is to own my own and then, I`m getting the biggest wood stove you`ve ever laid eyes on! I`ve never cooked on one but would even attempt baking with one. Had a wood stove many years ago and positively loved it!
learningaswego 1/2/2014 12:28:19 PM Report

Great FACTUAL article in today's Financial Post - by Lawrence Solomon, showing how COMPLETELY WRONG Al Gore and the rest of the climate fear mongers have been.
The latest statistics from 2013 show what complete and utter BUNK it is, the climate change billionaires have been selling.

lookaround 1/2/2014 12:39:23 PM Report

learning your mantra is rather dull. Why is the shipping channel free of ice in the north? Why has the incidence of cancer in China increased 10%? Why has all the glaciers in the Andes Alps Himalayas Rockies and elsewhere nearly gone? Why has the ocean risen in a matter that those islands at or near sea level flooding? Why is there more violent storms? Why is the ocean become less saline...?????? Why has the polar bear been on terra firma rather than on the ice pack? Keep on believing in the pro-oil governments. You are a sheeple but go ahead follow the ill informed and soon they will make you pay.
lookaround 1/2/2014 12:41:32 PM Report

FACTUAL .... say what!!!!!!!! LMFAO......gullible folks.
theprotector 1/2/2014 12:48:22 PM Report

easy there look...learning is a sheep that can only follow. He cannot think for himself, he only knows what right wing tells him. Anyone with half a brain can simply follow the flora and fauna distribution, ice flows or lack there of...mean annual temps and see a pattern.
steelworker 1/2/2014 1:04:24 PM Report

A bunch of "climate change scientists" went to the South Pole to find out where all the ice was going. Their ship was stuck in heavy ice for almost two weeks and they have just been rescued with helicopters. Funny thing tho-hardly a peep from MSM as to why these clowns went there in the first place.
mallet 1/2/2014 1:04:40 PM Report



FACT.. The bay is frozen over at this moment...

NORMAL... The bay freezes over mid january..

Explain please the difference between hot and cold!!
Nunavut 1/2/2014 1:08:02 PM Report

Hey �lookaround� you may want to look around more at history and facts����.Why has cancer increase in China , maybe the thousands of polluting new factories with no health cares whatsoever�. But nothing to do with man made C02 ( but maybe because you continue to buy Chinese products). You are confusing pollution with the plant life giving gas called C02���.as for glaciers they have been receding since the ice age , or are you now calling the receding ice age caused by mankind also? Ocean rising is not being recorded at any applicable level that the enviro nuts claimed. Polar bears live on land and sea and are thriving as recorded last two years by the Inuit peoples actually living up there, but World Wildlife fund is selling a lot of stuffed teddy bears to folks like you to keep their jobs. Violent storms hmmm it was the quietest hurricane season yet this year , but the enviro nuts predicted it to be the worst��..hmm wrong again. Climate change yes�..it has been unpredictable from Moses thru to Al Roker , we adapt����..so move along enviro nazi the rest of us are trying to work.
Just Curious 1/2/2014 1:09:16 PM Report

Mallet, that's the difference on the faucets in your house...Hot on the left, cold on the right, kinda like the left/right thingy on here...LOL.. Happy New Year,,,:)
steelworker 1/2/2014 1:09:42 PM Report

If Al Roker gets between the Earth and the Sun you WILL see global cooling.
learningaswego 1/2/2014 1:11:39 PM Report

Try these FACTS on for size:
- Antarctic sea ice set a record this year, since first ever recorded.
- Arctic sea ice - Al Goofus Gore predicted in 2008 that all would be gone by 2013. This year alone, more Arctic sea that the big, fat, money-grubbing dummy said was there in 2008, and has been increasing every year since 2008.
-2013 marks the 17th year of NO WARMING on the PLANET
- in December over 2000 US weather stations reported record snow and cold days.
-16 inches of snow fell in the Middle East
- European and North American solar and wind companies continue to file for bankruptcy, and/or beg for more taxpayers' subsidy.

Meanwhile, Fat Al continues to fatten up the "green" in his numerous bank accounts; because he for one knows there's suckers born every minute. He also knows in the "green at all costs" world, there's suckers born every 5 seconds.
lookaround 1/2/2014 1:12:34 PM Report

Steelworker please....that was ice that had melted then refroze unexpectedly. This thaw and refreeze is a new phenomena in the Antarctic. Typical that one incident makes it a "gotcha" moment for the ill informed. Nice try.
sweetc 1/2/2014 1:21:35 PM Report

I too don't believe in global warming. I think the climate is cyclical. I however do believe that humans will pollute the earth so that the water becomes undrinkable and the air will become unbreathable. this has nothing at all to do with global warming. Cannot continue to pour the chemicals into the oceans (radioactivity from the Japanese reactor) and air pollution from many many factories that do not have the same standards as North America and expect the world to continue on as we know it.
steelworker 1/2/2014 1:28:37 PM Report

Winnepeg is reporting temperatures (with wind chill) equal to the surface of Mars.
steelworker 1/2/2014 1:35:00 PM Report

Sorry to call BS on you reacharound but even the leader of the group says they were caught in rapidly expanding sea ice. Not ice that melted and then re-froze. He admits that they were caught in "their own experiment". Talk about egg on their collective faces. Also they were following the trail of another explorer who got stuck in the ice in 1912 for almost a year. Damn those "inconvenient truths". Just keep shelling money out to the Goracle-he needs new mudflaps on his Learjet.
Zing 1/2/2014 1:38:52 PM Report

Steelworker

The temp in Winnipeg has risen to -25 with the windchill at -32, much the same as it was right here in the Soo.

They did have to ground incoming flights, however, for a while this morning.

I shall now take the torch to my mailbox lock.:)
theprotector 1/2/2014 2:02:59 PM Report

steelworker go lay down somewhere!
Only a fool would beleive that climate change isnt occuring, as I said before it is changing, the argument should be about whether or not man has contributed to it and if so what has that contribution changed, such as faster natural changes, tidal changes, extreme weather? For people like learnings, right wing and steelworker, these topics need to be dumbed down for they can grasp something else besides their buddy's weiner!
Grump 1/2/2014 2:18:19 PM Report

The Protector, Well said, Happy New Year.
theprotector 1/2/2014 2:19:28 PM Report

Happy New Year to you Grump!!
66cherokee 1/2/2014 2:22:38 PM Report

Everyone who is gripping about their power bill, just remember when we go to the polls that it was the LIBERAL government under McGuinty and now under Whynn that we can thank for our high power bills. Those windmills that are north of the Sault don't turn if there isn't any wind, and if Ontario has to much power we PAY, yes PAY, other provinces or the states to take it off our hands. Wind power, solar power are a rip off. The Ontario government pays them from .53 cents to 83 cents perk kwh hour and we pay what? anywhere from 7 to 10 cents kwh, do the math. And also add in the cost of what over 1.3 BILLION DOLLARS that went down the drain when the Liberals moved those 2 gas power plants so that they wouldn't loose any seats in the last election.
We have gas heat, gas water tank, a wood stove, and on a day like today, passive solar heat coming in from the sun, as we have a lot of windows facing south.
I see that Rob Ford has filed his papers for mayor of Toronto(the city that thinks it's the centre of the universe), what is Toronto council going to do if he is re-elected? The people will have spoken. I'm not a fan of his, but realize that he was voted in by the people because the people of Toronto were tired of all the downtown elitist. That should be an interesting election.
We should be happy with what the Sault council have been doing, and no they are not perfect, but at least they try.
learningaswego 1/2/2014 2:32:05 PM Report

Praise be to His Blubberness, the Great Goracle, for warning us minions of this awful global warming.
It has been the world's pleasure - I'm sure - to fatten up Big Al, and Big Al's bank vaults with tens of millions of $$$$$, for his greatness in warning us just 5 short years ago of this pending doom.
flyhawk25 1/2/2014 2:38:36 PM Report

I watched Ford plunk down 200 bucks to run again.Pretty good investment and less than a dollar a pound.
II think he's an out of control spoiled brat with too much money but I can't vote.And I wouldn't bet against him.
He fits the demographic of those who support him.And that's a tough combination to beat.
The voters in that area have different priorities than I do.I've lived there and that's one reason I moved back here.
Just Curious 1/2/2014 2:47:41 PM Report

My sentiments exactly on Ford, Fly.(Can I say that or is there out there someone else from 20 years ago with that name ?). Spoiled child, got in once and thinks the world(Toronto) owes him..Can't see him getting back in but you just can't be sure..:).
Grump 1/2/2014 3:08:41 PM Report

66cherokee, I don't mind a good rant but get your facts straight. If Ontario has to buy power from 11.30 am to 1.30 pm they pay considerably over 1 dollar per kwh. You apparently are one of the short sighted morons that wants to run out of power. If some in the Sault don't have power for a short period they moan about it and here you are doing your best to make sure you will run out. That said I do agree with you about the two gas plants.
mr.monty 1/2/2014 3:09:13 PM Report

I have yet to see anything on the gov. ban on incandescent light bulbs. mini spirals will not work in the col. or keep my pump house from freezing. I use mini spirals in the summer inside the house and incandescent bulbs in the winter. the incandescent help to heat the room as well as provide light. mini spirals in the summer when it is hot. oh yeah on the global warming thing, the boreal forest traps more carbon then a rain forest. the rain washes the carbon off of the big flat leaves and onto the ground. the boreal forest actually absorbs the carbon. but this only happens 6 months of the year.
mr.monty
steelworker 1/2/2014 3:34:45 PM Report

Gee whiz: Grump has a thing about my "boys" and the protector has a thing about grabbing someones weiner. You two birds should go to T.O. together next summer for the big parade (don't forget your chaps).
Spellchecker 1/2/2014 3:41:42 PM Report

ice floes
learningaswego 1/2/2014 3:45:35 PM Report

Exactly, Mr Monty - here in Northern Ontario if we can get a little heat from the same source as the light - which we need anyway - seems to make perfect sense to do so.
But, as we now know - "sense" can be greatly lacking when you're talking with the eco-green-fascist-lobby, which our current government has swallowed hook, line, and sinker.
Grump 1/2/2014 4:15:12 PM Report

Steely I for one don't want anything to do with your turf. I still have mine and still use them for what they were intended. That said I now understand why your wife carries yours in her little purse, you certainly don't need them to be some big fellows honey. Somehow I don't think the Protector is interested in your lifestyle either but you could ask him. Don't be looking for me in the Big Smoke when you and your little pals are riding around in your chaps. Not that there is anything wrong with you boys being boys.LMAO
steelworker 1/2/2014 4:24:59 PM Report

Just keep your fantasies to yourself. Did you say Big Smoke or Big Choke-ya better ask the protector where you are going this summer.
Grump 1/2/2014 4:25:56 PM Report

Learning give us a break, you are not a Liberal, we get it. You work hard for Hudak so he can get in and bring in his right to work legislation. Your job at Wally World will look good then, that is until twenty other guys want it at a dollar or two an hour less. If I lived somewhere else I would be praying you got your wish. Now since you are not too bright and are not a climate expert while in the hell would we want to be bothered with your childish take on this. Run along ,Shoo.
Grump 1/2/2014 4:28:36 PM Report

Steely I know where I'm going and where I'm not going this summer or any other time so don't try laying off your wish list on me.
Bobby Nerves 1/2/2014 4:48:35 PM Report

Cheesus, Grump, you may know about your plans for the summer. But we don't have to be smart to tell where are you gonna be in one day or two...

The dump.

But steely will not be there, he's like artificial cake.

Don't have eggs.
steelworker 1/2/2014 5:05:18 PM Report

...you have to have ovaries to have eggs. Ya must have failed sex-ed.
66cherokee 1/2/2014 5:12:48 PM Report

flyhawk25
Just because Mr. Ford is overweight does not make it open season on his structure. That is called in my books, bullying. Even Mr. Layton never, ever made any comment on Mr. Ford's weight problem. And making comments about the people that voted him in, in my books makes you an elitist. They wanted to get someone that wasn't going to spent their money foolishly. Mr. Ford has cleaned up at City Hall. He got rid of a lot of gravy, and that something he campaigned on.
You are not the only one that has lived in Toronto. I did, and coming from the North, all I wanted to do was move back.
steelworker 1/2/2014 5:17:02 PM Report

Awwww; I was gonna save the niner for Grumpycat and the protector. Sorry my bad. In other news watch the CBC interview famous Liberal headcase Hedy Fry going on right now. I wonder if it's too cold to burn crosses in Burnaby right now?
Just Curious 1/2/2014 5:43:48 PM Report

So in your world, 66cherokee, no one is allowed to say anything about anyone which you yourself just did, so you don't even belong in your own world. Damn, how's it feel to be a loner?? Political correctness has gone way to far.. A spade is a spade, people, get over it. Ford was a good thing for a short time but power corrupted him, as it does most polititions, and his time is gone...
flyhawk25 1/2/2014 6:05:32 PM Report

66cherokee...I made that reference for a reason. One was to see if anyone would overreact.The other was a bit of fun - Ford is overweight.And the cost thing was a reflection of his focus on saving money.
If you are a politician you'd better get over any hang ups with body image.The governor of New Jersey has handled the issue beautifully and I admire his points of view.
If Rob Ford was my friend or even an acquaintance I would not mention it - and he might be a charming fellow. But he is a public figure.In my view that makes him fair game.
As for me being an 'elitist' that is just silly.I make a hobby of deflating elitists.
So just relax before you jump into this discussion.I'm not suggesting that you stop - just think before you write.
Bobby Nerves 1/2/2014 6:08:59 PM Report

66c,
Ford is good at selling Ford. He'd like to be voted by his past actions, but not his behavior and his mistakes.

TO fiscal conditions are even worst than the last time I check, in 2004. The Gardiner/QEW is falling in pieces and they did nothing about it and have no plans. Transit is a mess and they did nothing about it and have no plans. The airport was a gift from the Little Guy from Shawinnigan and Paul Martin, but till today people needs a taxi to get there because there is not public transportation (reliable) to move the people in and out of Pearson.

Ford is not a consensus builder and you can't build a better TO and GTA when there is no consensus in the Municipal Government. You can't have half of councils out screaming bloody murder and hunting the other half of council.

Olivia Chao will not run as she needs the abandon her upper position to take chances in TO and if she steps down as MP, she'll never get there again.

From all the Joe Bacon that can invest 200 mackaroos to run, the only one that can bring some decency, consensus and chances for TO is John Tory.

Smitherman is not, never was and never will represent the grit's, he's an endepeeer and the city of Toronto will not vote for him, should him plan on running for what I'll state down below.

All three parties representatives are based in good intentions and probably good ideas and plans, those plans require money and people would like to know where is the money coming from.

There is only one taxpayer and would like to receive value for it's tax money, and there is to early to tell.

The NDP will not get the middle class vote after the last tyranny they had to endure under Miller.

Grump 1/2/2014 7:09:10 PM Report

Steely you really are a putz. If you don't like her politics that's one thing. Hedy is a nice Lady who is an M.D. and has had a successful political career. Making crappy, personal remarks about someone who you certainly don't know simply shows your ignorance which is rather ugly. Smarten up a**h***.
flyhawk25 1/2/2014 7:17:45 PM Report

Grump...relax...
You are not going to change certain things.If certain posters can yank your chain they've already won if you get angry.
They'll die, we'll die and life will go on.
Best to attack the argument not the person.
That's advice I don't always follow and of course I'm the wisest owl in the forest.
Grump 1/2/2014 7:21:24 PM Report

Fly I'm not angry, I'm just disgusted that this moron makes these kind of comments about someone who has got out and done something with her life and still remained nice.
Mr. Poster 1/2/2014 7:24:58 PM Report

flyhawk wrote:

I watched Ford plunk down 200 bucks to run again.Pretty good investment and less than a dollar a pound

I guess bullys come in all ages.
flyhawk25 1/2/2014 7:27:15 PM Report

Grump...we'll have lunch on the 15th and I'll do my Dr. Phil impression. You'll be polite and then probably ignore it.
Morons drive you nuts. Me too. The difference is hope I've come to realize that this site is just recreation - not full body contact.
flyhawk25 1/2/2014 7:28:59 PM Report

Grump...I just read the other post.
I rest my case.
Bobby Nerves 1/2/2014 7:34:18 PM Report

Some people has no style, no class.

They deserve not a trip to the dump.
Grump 1/2/2014 8:06:37 PM Report

Fly but it is full body contact and I don't mind that. A true comment about someone else I can live with. That said go after my friends or make uneducated comments about good people I know and the stops get pulled out. On the plus side I have met a lot of great people on this site which more than make up for the few rude ,crude morons.
steelworker 1/2/2014 8:16:08 PM Report

Sorry to upset the Great Know-it-all Grump but when some flake stands up in the House and claims racists are burning crosses in Prince George (not Burnaby-my mistake). This fruit loop was forced to apologise in the House but we all know that an apology from a politician means nada. She is on a par with the other political idiot Libby Davies the anti-semite. Anyway, carry on liberal fools.
Grump 1/2/2014 8:36:00 PM Report

Well Steely it's certainly wonderful that you have never made a mistake. On top of that you are so forgiving of others who do. Give us a break.
Bobby Nerves 1/2/2014 9:08:49 PM Report

You should be grateful we are still in the Christmas Spirit, otherwise we'll be lined up and taking numbers to punch you in the mouth.

But not to worry, you'll not be alone.
steelworker 1/2/2014 9:11:22 PM Report

I made a mistake when I said Burnaby.I find it appalling that people who represent us on the world stage are allowed to make some pretty racist comments and only repent when their feet are held to the fire. I think Hedy meant to say "Burnbaby burn" but got confused as to where Prince George was. If you could wire the whole Lib/NDP parties together somehow you probably couldn't brown a piece of toast.
soowat 1/2/2014 9:17:33 PM Report

Apparently this has become a site for 10 silly old farts, a bunch of Con losers and 6 others that don't have a life----in a word---BOOOOORING
steelworker 1/2/2014 9:26:22 PM Report

Bobby: better bring a milk crate to stand on; I'm a pretty tall drink of water.
steelworker 1/2/2014 9:38:47 PM Report

soowat-and where do you slot in? Howzabout the 3 people that still live in their mommies' basement.
soowat 1/2/2014 9:52:13 PM Report

steelworker;

You should know about Mommy's basement.Yours is calling you to wipe the pablum off your face
flyhawk25 1/2/2014 9:57:37 PM Report

All of this witty dialogue is putting me to sleep....
Find a re-run or read a book or feed the goldfish but my goodness....
soowat 1/2/2014 10:18:38 PM Report

steelworker

Time for the cons to go beddy-byes with dreams of a senate appointment at the Harper trough in their head.. Oh wait! Da Haze gets first kick at that cat and you losers can sit at his feet and dream
steelworker 1/2/2014 10:29:32 PM Report

I have to remember to cut the Conservative Party a check tomorrow.
nanag 1/2/2014 10:32:55 PM Report

Oh, the childishness of it all. At least 2 on here really need to grow up. I am feeling embarrassed for you guys.. time to grow up kids
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