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View Room Comments for Thursday, Dec. 12 2013

Thursday, December 12, 2013   by: The View RoomWelcome to the View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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~pink~ 12/12/2013 2:34:03 AM Report

Hi people of SooToday!

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Here is the link if you're feeling extra helpful today :)

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Thank you!
soowat 12/12/2013 6:11:14 AM Report

The Toronto Star has an interesting article regarding Ontario govt subsidies.
soowat 12/12/2013 6:14:03 AM Report


I'll do that.
Might also get Mark Brown on it. He'll get a class action suit going against anyone who doesn't vote for your friend.
Grump 12/12/2013 6:43:19 AM Report

Good morning everyone, can't say I like the weather much but after Christmas spring will come again. (slowly) Mallet I'll try this again slowly so maybe you get it. I am disgusted with what the Provincial Liberals under McGuinty did. They ran up a pile of debt for little reason. Now we get to Harper who has run up a much bigger pile of debt in spite of his and Flaherty's predictions. The difference is you get in a snit when I tell the truth about Harper and make all sorts of B.S. excuses for him while I agree with your comments about the past Provincial Liberals. I get it you are one of those neo-cons that wear your blinders and hold your nose. I wasn't that kind of a Conservative and bailed when Mulroney kept finding those cash stuffed envelopes. Mulroney left a pile of debt but nothing compared to this "Economist" who still brags about being the "strong hand on the economy" after selling our children and grandchildren's heritage to China. Get another cloths pin for your nose, you will be O.K. Have a great day all. rw ,Harper knew long before he left for South Africa that the Post Office mess had to come out so my comments stand.
Spellchecker 12/12/2013 7:13:10 AM Report

Soowat, that's a very informative article on one of the ways the government squanders our money, interfering with the free market system that has worked well during my lifetime but is now under threat by increasing big government socialistic tendencies.

When a business is not competitive it should be allowed to fail. Big government should not be picking winners and losers. In that particular case the company took the subsidy and then closed the plant in favour of another.

There are always unintended consequences when the government gets involved. You no longer live in a free country by allowing government to get so involved in people's lives.
ROLAND_ROLLY 12/12/2013 8:33:48 AM Report

soowat....what an stupid comment.

You should use a crayon to get your feeble comments across instead of a computer.
flyhawk25 12/12/2013 8:35:47 AM Report

Good morning Spelly.
I'm not opposed to most government programs. But I am opposed to a lack of checks and balances.We have lost a sense of accountability from our politicians.
In the US - with one exception - presidents are limited to eight years.
And they can be impeached.In our Canadian system they can stay well beyond their rancid point and are generally bulletproof.
I think that somehow we have to find a way to make those dogs get back on their leashes.
Wisenheimer 12/12/2013 8:36:39 AM Report

"They ran up debt for little reason" .. Would have been a hell of of a lot more if the Libs/NDP had anything to say about it. Luckily they didn't.
Grump, was Harper a foster parent to you in a former life, that refused to go to your ball games ? Try to respond calmly with no swampy, potty talk.
Wisenheimer 12/12/2013 8:38:14 AM Report

I looked up "TheProtector" and it said "eversons"!
soowat 12/12/2013 8:38:22 AM Report


I suggest anger management class.

BTW, Grammatically it would be "a stupid comment, not "an stupid comment"

Now don't you feel stupid?
theprotector 12/12/2013 8:39:21 AM Report

according to our local mp canadians dont want door to door mail service any longer, funny I dont recall being asked, were any of you?
theprotector 12/12/2013 8:40:38 AM Report

wise you are such a knob, sorry not that poster never was
right wing 12/12/2013 8:41:50 AM Report

"Sault resident Mark Brown, a vocal critic of the PUC regarding discoloured water, was in attendance along with a handful of other members of the public at Wednesday's meeting at the PUC offices on Second Line."

A handful of others.
Even if some could not make it for various reasons it is telling as to how many folks are having issues and how often.
right wing 12/12/2013 8:44:42 AM Report


It was a humorous comment.
Some folks have no funny bone....
Oldie Goldie 12/12/2013 8:47:47 AM Report

Several Posters on this site yesterday said that the Post Office cannot deliver mail to homes because of the costs involved.

I mentioned that many Seniors are unable to get to a Community Mail Box, especially in Winter weather like yesterday and some posters called those Seniors a Minority.

Let me tell you that Canada spends billions of dollars protecting Minority Rights so why not continue to give support to many Seniors who will have difficulty with Community Mail Boxes.

Our City has decided to only plow I sidewalk on many streets making it even more difficult to walk to a Community Box.

By the way, Seniors make up 30 % of our population.

There are many ways Canada Post could save money than cutting off home deliveries to those who already have it.

Fed Ex, Purolator and other deliverers are going to make a fortune if Canada Post cuts back on Services----meaning Canada Post will lose even more business.

Private deliverers will even pick up your Mail and deliver your Mail to your home after Canada Post cuts back.
gcubed 12/12/2013 8:55:55 AM Report

I understand that Purolator is owned by Canada Post.
right wing 12/12/2013 9:07:54 AM Report

2/3rds of Canadians already receive their mail via drop off boxes.
The final elimination of a personal service that is proving not only to be costly but dwindling in need is inevitable. Of course as with all many other things that went by the way side there will some that kick and scream.
Remember the milk man.
How would anybody get milk if not at their door step.....
theprotector 12/12/2013 9:10:04 AM Report

of course isnt that who fathered your kids?
Spellchecker 12/12/2013 9:11:41 AM Report

Careful, right wing. You'll be climbing back onto the carousel.
right wing 12/12/2013 9:12:58 AM Report was an open comment, not addressed to any specific poster.
right wing 12/12/2013 9:15:02 AM Report

Anybody else see the absolute absurdity in this...

From QMI Agency.

A six-year-old boy in Colorado was suspended from school for kissing a girl on the hand, and the school is calling it sexual harassment.

Hunter Yelton, a Grade 1 student, told KRDO radio the kiss happened during reading group.

"I leaned over and kissed her on the hand," he said.

Yelton was suspended from his school near Colorado Springs and accused of sexual harassment.

Yelton's mom, Jennifer Saunders, told the station her son is now asking her "what is sex, mommy?"

A school board official told KRDO Yelton's actions fit the description of sexual harassment, which includes unwanted touching.

"Our main interest in this is having the behaviour stop because the story is not just about the student that was disciplined, it is also about the student receiving the unwanted advances," Robin Goodly told CNN.

Saunders said the girl was "fine with it" because the children consider themselves boyfriend and girlfriend.

Yelton says he's sorry for doing something wrong.
Oldie Goldie 12/12/2013 9:16:18 AM Report

gcubed--you might be right about Purolator but E.Z. express and other Contractors will pick up the slack.
E.Z Express already has a Contract with Canada Post but they are a Private Contractor and would love to expand---and the will when and if Canada Post cuts back.

In my opinion, cutting off home mail delivery is an attempt to destroy the Postal Workers Union but giving out new Contracts to fill and empty more Community Boxes will not save money.

Locations have to be secured and new Boxes built and Installed on Concrete pads---More money spent !

By the way, Most Postal Contractors are friends and supporters of a Political Party, in my opinion.
engineguy 12/12/2013 9:16:25 AM Report

I agree with

the protector
I have walking issues and no one asked me either maybe sootoday should do a poll lol.
theprotector 12/12/2013 9:19:55 AM Report

hey borrow spelly's wife's pole!!
Oldie Goldie 12/12/2013 9:22:23 AM Report

The Severances to Senior Postal deliverers will be in the Billions and Canada Post knows that.

Those eligible for Pensions will draw from an already established Canada Post Pension Fund but many more will get severances costing Billions.
Wild Turkey 12/12/2013 9:30:59 AM Report

I did little bit of checking on the history of mail service.It is interesting to note that people paid $5.oo per half ounce to use "The Pony Express" when they wanted to get their mail to California in a hurry.The service went out of business after only 18 months because of the completion of telegraph lines.
Urban mail delivery was impacted in1876 by the invention of the telephone.
Canada Post has been severely hurt with the overwhelming popularity of the internet.Every day, more and more households are "getting on line".
We simply cannot continue to subsidize this "corporation" to the tune of One Billion Dollars a year.
The need is still there for letter mail delivery,and it will continue, but the level of service will continue to drop, and the price of postage will continue to rise until This "drain on our resources" reaches a break- even point.
It is lamentable, but inevitable.
Jimssm 12/12/2013 9:32:20 AM Report


From what I've heard, there will be no severences... all reductions will be done through attrition.

It WILL save money.
Oldie Goldie 12/12/2013 9:36:42 AM Report

Many Posters, including R.W. and others are just not willing to listen to those who have already posted that Rural Delivery and Community Boxes that are already established have a multitude of problems in our 5 months of Winter.
Adding more will compound those problems.
Spellchecker 12/12/2013 9:49:54 AM Report

Not so, Jimssm. My daughter and her friend will both be losing their jobs. However, I realize it is inevitable. Canada Post will go the way of the buggywhip and the milkman.
lookaround 12/12/2013 10:00:27 AM Report

Perhaps Harper can pay for my slip at the community mail box. It wasn't shovelled for 3 days and I jumped over the bank to get to the box and low and behold two boxes were opened or left opened one being my neighbours. She called Canada post but to her dismay there is not much that can be done at this time. The Canada post reply was we are too busy at this time to follow through..please place a formal complaint to the following..blah blah blah. We Canadians are being had by this government and WE are getting sick and tired. Time for an election and clear this crap away.
flyhawk25 12/12/2013 10:16:34 AM Report

lookaround...a sad and too familiar theme of a government that is out of touch and out of control.
Right now they are bulletproof.
Retreaded 12/12/2013 10:17:41 AM Report

Harper is safe now until parliament resumes at the end of January.
Zing 12/12/2013 10:18:14 AM Report

I've been using the rural community box for over 20 years. We were told that we had to shovel the snow in front of the box because the person who puts the mail in the box will NOT be doing it.
With all the cold weather we get, I have replaced my lock 4-5 times as the tumblers get frozen and thawed numerous times causing damage. If you have no lock they will not deliver to your box.
Parcels have to be picked up at the postal outlet.
I fully understand that Canada Post is losing money; funny how Harper's Helpers announced this maneuver the day after the House rose for Christmas Break.
Wicket 12/12/2013 10:35:42 AM Report

Wondering how the recycling bin pickup for this week was accomplished with all the snow and lack of plowing; bet there were a lot of bins that didn't make it to the curb. Thank goodness I have a strong husband, cause I sure as hell could not pull that sucker even five feet.
Jimssm 12/12/2013 10:58:46 AM Report


Sorry to hear that.

The press release by Canada Post makes it seem that none will lose their jobs.

... typical government spin I guess.
theprotector 12/12/2013 11:05:46 AM Report

well big deal so the sault loses more federal jobs, hayes and the mayor have been silent on the federal jobs just being transfered out of this area.
flyhawk25 12/12/2013 11:13:14 AM Report

Hayes is too busy looking for movers to help him limp home after the election.
mallet 12/12/2013 11:13:38 AM Report


Thank you for that very lucid answer, that Liberals are bad in the Province, but good at the Federal level. I am at a loss, though as to how to you separate the two, how do I tell a good Liberal from a bad one, does one have "P" stamped on their forehead and the other an "F". Would I not be a little hypercritical if I vote Conservative for the province and Liberal for the Country. How can I be sure that if I voted Liberal federally that they would not do the same as they have for the Province. Harper does not get a free ride with me, I have written many letters when I think he is doing something wrong, and not many saying he is doing right.. Quite simply put Liberalism does not work very well and falls over backwards to try and please everyone and that cannot be done, should the Liberals federally win the next election just watch your taxes go through the roof. I have watched this happen in two countries, the idea should be to "level up" not "level down", although that is so much easier to do. I would ask you one thing, how does raising the price of hydro, but then giving people 10% off make sense, I may be one of the swamp people, but at least I am not in the loony bin..
theprotector 12/12/2013 11:27:31 AM Report

Can you share the stats on how our taxes went through the roof under the liberals in the past?
Your position is at best, very weak, but that is par for the course as you are a very weak minded person mallet. The business model of a for profit business does not work in government as the conservatives are showing the country now.
Wisenheimer 12/12/2013 11:55:09 AM Report

Fly ..Oh Fly .. Can't cast aspersions on our American farmer friends, for my cheap bird seed. "Product of Mexico" .. damn Nafta !
bounder 12/12/2013 12:03:34 PM Report

what ,they broke for Xmas, get to work you lazy confused bums .Never mind the holidays, you don't deserve them.
Wisenheimer 12/12/2013 12:06:23 PM Report

Mallet ... You are "weak minded" according to "TheProtector". There is something very, very wrong with that analysis, coming from our resident Betty Boop.
flyhawk25 12/12/2013 12:07:07 PM Report

If the US can get seed from Mexico cheaply why can't we?
learningaswego 12/12/2013 12:20:40 PM Report

If it weren't for the volumes of unsolicited junk mail - which most people couldn't care less if they get, Canada Post could have downsized to half or more of its bloat already.
Wisenheimer 12/12/2013 12:36:22 PM Report

Oh I don't know .. same reason our gas is $5.35/gal and theirs is $3.50, (both refined at Brent price), or my latest novel was $9.00 at a U.S. Target, and $34.00 at Coles.
Maybe Canadians are suckers and will pay whatever it says on the box. Maybe our free stuff isn't really free.
Oldie Goldie 12/12/2013 12:37:49 PM Report

Jimssm---A standard Severance package averages 1 1/2 times annual income.

Canada Post will probably offer less than that but 1 1/2 times yearly wages is the average amount that Courts award.

About 30% of Canada Post Employees are eligible for their Pensions---What happens to the other 70 % is anybody's guess.
Zing 12/12/2013 12:46:04 PM Report


The Conservative government always seems to make controversial announcements on the day following the House rising. That way nothing can be debated on the hill until they resume parliament.

Neat trick....and very slippery.
Zing 12/12/2013 12:50:52 PM Report

" On Wednesday, Liberal leader Justin Trudeau also wondered whether Canada Post undertook an in-depth study before announcing the changes. Along with Chow, he wondered as well about the timing of the announcement, coming as it did one day after the House of Commons adjourned for its Christmas break."

Hunter101 12/12/2013 1:17:26 PM Report

Wisen, it's true.

We are suckers. There is so much mark-up on goods that it's disgusting. Go get your vehicle care for across the border. They'll do a better job and you'll pay half the price.

I made the mistake of going to Prouse once for repairs (and I'll make that mistake one last time to redeem my free oil change). I usually get my own parts from across the border and have a guy do it for me out of his own place but I was in a pinch that time.

And the staff at Prouse are all jerk-offs. Deal with their service department and you'll see what shitty service is.
flyhawk25 12/12/2013 1:28:48 PM Report

When you elect sleazebags you get sleazy behavior.
We did and we did.
Now the question is - who replaces them?
theprotector 12/12/2013 1:31:30 PM Report

oldie not withthe federal government and not with postal workers, they get one week for every year service to a max. and it is my understanding that was negotiated away their last contract for job security.
Oldie Goldie 12/12/2013 1:43:59 PM Report

the protector---I said that the Courts will award 1 1/2 years service if it is taken to Court---1 week for every year of service may have been negotiated but if they take it to Court the final result will be different.
theprotector 12/12/2013 1:48:05 PM Report

another wasted breath from wise
T-rat 12/12/2013 1:54:19 PM Report

Hunter101: Don't know about Prouse staff. One time I did ask their parts department for a price on a replacement, small, plastic interior door handle part. They quoted me $80 (for one). I got two for $14 each from an American auto parts place, and delivered to Weirs for pick up.

Recently I asked the parts counter at another dealership for the price of a replacement radiator ($423.50). Installed it would be 3 hours @ $112 = another $336 ($759.50).

Went back online to my USA parts dealer and got 7 choices ranging from $86.68 to $224.89, all in Canadian dollars. All of these rads are made by parts manufacturers for the auto industry. And my mechanic installs for $99/hr.
Hunter101 12/12/2013 1:55:51 PM Report

Yeah, if you buy off of eBay the prices are converted to Canadian from U.S.

Not bad prices though.
steelworker 12/12/2013 2:10:18 PM Report

Fly: if the Liberals get back in to power next election we will go from sleazebags to douchbags.
T-rat 12/12/2013 2:43:42 PM Report

Hunter: the USA auto parts dealer is not e-Bay.

And to whomever mentioned nice "trick" by Harper to announce cuts to postal service just before Christmas break. Not a trick. Standard government practice. Same as putting out a bad news news release late Friday afternoon, especially just before a long weekend.

OPG....and I'm so pissed after reading news accounts that compound the already pathetic and dismal announcements from that incompetent dolt Chiarelli, minister of energy. Here's a summary of life at OPG:

CEO is Tom Mitchell ($1.7 million/year + bonuses)
Chairman of the Board is Jake Epp ($150,000/year for a parttime job chairing a few meeting a year). You remember Jake. Federal PC cabinet minister. He once chaired a review committee of the old Ontario Hydro which concluded they were billions in debt because of "mismanagement".

OPG has 40 vice-presidents, who don't even have job titles, and a slew of 'senior' vice-presidents who do. Three VP's were fired yesterday by the premier, that leaves only 36 more to go (gotta keep one).

The accounting manager is paid $240,000 per year (about $100,000 more than for the same job in the private sector)

OPG has 8,000 employees on the sunshine list ($100,000+ per year).

OPG chips in $5 toward an employee's pension for every $1 paid by the employee. (It's 1-1 anywhere else in the public service).

Union staff at nuclear facilities get a minimum of $47/hour, including the janitorial staff who mop floors and empty wastebaskets.

One employee paid $80,000 to move 10 km from Toronto to Pickering, even though the job is in Toronto. Another employee was paid a $392,000 housing allowance and moving expense.

Don't think that OPG honchos or even a dipstick like Chiarelli are too concerned. Afterall, what kind of backlash ever comes from Canadians? They know we'll whine and complain, like I'm doing right now and that'll be the end of it, and we'll just keep paying for overpriced power generated by overpaid bureaucrats who so dutifully underperform in so capably incompetent fashion!!

bounder 12/12/2013 2:45:53 PM Report

I buy all auto parts through Ebay,I had a mirror on a truck here the dealer wanted 800.00 bucks and the installation fees after.
Got a set of trailer towing mirror for 319.00 with all the bells and whistles. Mopar parts at that.
mallet 12/12/2013 3:07:23 PM Report

T Rat..

What government would look at that and do a T and M study, I mean OPG spend a lot of time with very little motion. The only part I would disagree with you on is the pay of the Nuclear plants people, I know we are up wind, but I would hate to see that "blue light" to the south east of us, should they make a mistake. I once worked, for a short time for a company in the UK whose idea was that there should never be more than 10% of the total workforce in management, and that included foreman, if governments worked to that formula I think it would bear looking at...
Wild Turkey 12/12/2013 3:09:04 PM Report

@Soo wat---Finally tracked down that piece about Kelloggs that you mentioned before 7 this A.M.None of the other stories even mentioned that tax payers subsidized a new plant for them in Belleville,with fewer workers and no union.And also---I had completely forgotten that Bob Rae was responsible for saving Algoma Steel 'way back in the 90's.Very interesting stuff.
bounder 12/12/2013 3:12:48 PM Report

Any farmer knows, always prune the top of the tree and never ever the roots.
At one time in Algoma Steel there were 70 plus superintendents Dofasco ran with 13 with almost the same workforce.
flyhawk25 12/12/2013 3:15:47 PM Report

mallet...OPG is a prime example of what is wrong with civil service systems.
I suspect the if we dug a bit on Sault Area Hospitals we'd see the same kind of top heavy structure that does not reflect reality.
Funny but ships have been run successfully for centuries with just one captain.
Hunter101 12/12/2013 3:25:01 PM Report

bounder, just goes to show you how they take advantage here in the Sault.
shakespeare 12/12/2013 3:25:42 PM Report

I was across the river picking up a package for my daughter, today and, of course, filled up with petrol and bought a few groceries. One can't buy kale or collard greens pre-washed and packaged here at the very reasonable prices there. I am the 100% grocery shopper in our household and I must say that, apart from dairy and chicken, there is not much cheaper over there in the grocery (not booze)area. No Wensleydale cheese or watercress over there, either.
Now, if one lives on a diet of rotisserie chicken and bird seed like Wisen then it's very cheap across the river, but one ends up as a bird brain. BTW what's the title of your latest novel, W?
flyhawk25 12/12/2013 3:38:32 PM Report

shakes...Rule #1:
Before you can write a book you probably should read one.
Without pictures.
mallet 12/12/2013 3:38:36 PM Report

T Rat, Bounder and Flyhawk..

On the subject of Electricity, could anyone tell me the reasoning of the "time of use" for the timing of the peak, medium and cheap rate. Okay I understand the nightime and weekends but the use of peak in the winter period between the 7am to 11am and the 5pm to 7pm has me puzzled. Was the a bureaucratic slip or was it deliberate. Most people are up and breakfasting around 7am and getting tea ready around the 5 to 6pm time. In summertime you have more leaway as to mealtimes whereas in winter it is a little more difficult, well for us it is...
steelworker 12/12/2013 3:45:14 PM Report

..."time of use" is Libspeak for "shut up and pay".
irishfey 12/12/2013 4:01:50 PM Report

And what about the old folks that don"t use the internet and on line banking and such? How will they get their Bank statements and all of their Government slips etc.? One of these days, SOMEONE is going to pull the PLUG, then where will we all be,, it"s going to happen!!!!
bounder 12/12/2013 4:02:41 PM Report

Mallet I wold sum it this way,(MONEY),nothing else.
Zing 12/12/2013 4:07:56 PM Report

Dang, Bounder gets the niner!
mallet 12/12/2013 4:15:20 PM Report


Yes, ships only have one Captain, however they do have a "first officer" and a "chief engineer", then each of them have subs under them as well. As my old man used to say " dogs have fleas upon their backs to bite them and smaller fleas have smaller fleas, and so ad infinitum", and so it goes in just about every line of work, except if you are self employed!!! eh RW and Grump and and and!!!
mallet 12/12/2013 4:17:09 PM Report

Steelworker and Bounder..

I guessed that from the beginning, but I wanted to make sure I was not out in left field, so to speak..
gil333 12/12/2013 4:42:48 PM Report

Wisen....Where in soo mi. do you find these cheap peanuts in the shell for birds?
shakespeare 12/12/2013 4:43:28 PM Report

Even more absurd than rw's example of the kissing six year old who was suspended, is the teen who killed four people while driving drunk, successfully being defended as being a victim of "affluenza" and being given probation.
mallet 12/12/2013 5:01:04 PM Report


I don't know U S court proceedings but I would want that sentence refered to a higher court. I mean I have heard of excuses but that's really one for the books. Mummy and Daddy didn't teach him that you had to say "sorry". I thought I had heard them all with my grand kids but that's the best yet...
Grump 12/12/2013 5:01:47 PM Report

Shakey you forget that was down in Red Neck Republican, GW land where anything apparently goes.
shakespeare 12/12/2013 6:22:01 PM Report

I bet that Conrad Black is kicking himself for not using that term in his defence.
shakespeare 12/12/2013 6:25:47 PM Report

Doug Ford is apparently claiming that "affluenza" led him to hand out $20 bills to those in a housing project and that it had nothing to do with buying votes.
steelworker 12/12/2013 6:30:16 PM Report

Headline: Obama attends funeral for some guy,gets picture taken with hot Dane P.M.;wifey not impressed. Film at 11.
shakespeare 12/12/2013 6:33:29 PM Report

Steely: that was yesterday's news! Get with the program. Snap to it!
steelworker 12/12/2013 7:07:25 PM Report

... more like get with the pogrom.
Jimssm 12/12/2013 7:28:16 PM Report

.... at least Obama took the selfie with a BlackBerry.
flyhawk25 12/12/2013 7:30:52 PM Report

Why in the world - during an event like that - would this be important?
It's not.
mallet 12/12/2013 8:01:49 PM Report

Ah, but Michelle looked really, really Peed off, I get looks like that from my wife..I run for cover...
right wing 12/12/2013 8:11:15 PM Report

The best yet.
The signing person for the deaf seen next to all of the dignitaries at the Mandela send off was found to be a fraud.
He got Obama's correct though...he was seen doing the bullshit sign.
steelworker 12/12/2013 8:41:27 PM Report

...and a violent schizophrenic (apologies to Spelly).
steelworker 12/12/2013 8:42:57 PM Report

Sorry Fly but Obama just showed the world how much class he has. I hear it's pretty frosty in his bedroom.
flyhawk25 12/12/2013 8:58:13 PM Report

'I heard' just so stupid.Stick with what you know best. Whatever that is.
This is not newsworthy and just proves again how desperate you and the other gill breathers are to make a silly issue out of nothing.
You lack knowledge, wit and wisdom.
Now finish your cereal, wipe your chin and brush your tooth and go back to your video games.
Leave the commentary to the grownups.
steelworker 12/12/2013 9:02:53 PM Report

Sorry you feel like that. I guess nobody can stick it to the Great and Powerful O without risking the wrath of some lefty freak. I repeat-no class.
flyhawk25 12/12/2013 9:17:24 PM Report

Shhh...just get your teddy bear and let the adults chat.
In the morning after your mum makes your gruel and you have bathy time you can have her read the news to you.
Sleep tight little moron.
lookaround 12/12/2013 10:03:19 PM Report

Steelworker ...listen are annoying shoooo, You make no sense and please please go away
Wisenheimer 12/12/2013 10:47:50 PM Report

Tomorrow lets discuss global warming and how it's causing the our sub-arctic December.
Grump you go first after, after warming up the mini-van.
Betty Boop can chime in after she's fully alert.
Could take a spell.
Resident 12/12/2013 11:04:50 PM Report

Wisen: Yes, and the world is flat!
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