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View Room Comments for Monday, Dec. 9 2013

Monday, December 09, 2013   by: The View RoomWelcome to the SooToday.com View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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Spellchecker 12/9/2013 7:05:20 AM Report

WORDS OF THE WEEK


Grump
its (This 'its' shows possession. The other 'it's' is the contraction for 'it is'), you're (contraction for 'you are', as in 'you're making history'), Roddis (as in 'Roddis Lumber')

lookaround
lo (as in 'lo and behold')

steelworker
emissions

mallet
phenomenal, among, whether, principles (as in 'admire its principles')

Big Brother
its (as in 'it has its roots in German')

old-cat33
because

right wing
than (as in 'more accidents than women')

soowat
too (as in 'too many')

northernmale
their (as in 'do their things'), themselves (as in 'get themselves ready')

shakespeare
snippets (no such word as 'snibbits', even when consulting the extremely lenient dictionary.com)

David Poluck
moat

Canna D. Yenn
Gandhi

Wisenheimer
oodles

Jimssm
politician

Mark Brown
lo (as in 'lo and behold'), piqued (as in 'piqued my interest')

Wild Turkey
Cameroons, possibility

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David Poluck 12/9/2013 7:09:32 AM Report

Good morning


Michael Chong, an unlikely revolutionary
How a private member�s bill may change the face of Parliament

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/michael-chong--an-unlikely-revolutionary-200009597.html
Zing 12/9/2013 7:21:21 AM Report

Thanks for the star (*) Spelly. :)
Grump 12/9/2013 7:27:38 AM Report

Good morning everyone, time to rise and shine. Mallet had Harper not gone and possibly sent the Governor General it would at least have showed he had a spine and was a man who stood by what he said. You call everyone who disagrees with him a Harper hater. My question to you is who could admire and respect a person like him? Hunter your post was not bad last evening. It showed you could think and you stated you are not big on classless. My advice would be to pick up a bit of class and stay away from some of your very classless comments. Nanag you old darling, climb down off that white charger, I was only feeding you a bit of tease and you are a very serious girl. I have a strong well educated wife, 5 well educated, strong minded daughters, 4 getting educated, bright grand daughters and two buzz bombs who are great grand daughters. I had to learn to cast bait early to hold my own. lol. One of my grand daughters is finishing her R.N. this year and appears to be tough minded as well, but not much of a sense of humour. By the way to a body they are all women's libbers when that stuff should have dried up and blown away years ago. lol Have a great day all.
nanag 12/9/2013 8:19:14 AM Report

Grump

bait for bait (wink)

I was going to say tit for tat.. but somehow it didn't seem right

and if you knew me chum you would know I have a great sense of humor..barely a serious bone in this ole body..really
Have a good day all.. walk safe, drive safe.. watch out for those male drivers bahahah
flyhawk25 12/9/2013 8:24:34 AM Report

Another week beginning and I noted the fine posting in the archives about Garnet Rogers.
Unlike Grump I see no hypocrisy in Harper's attending Mandela's funeral with words of praise.He is our PM and I expect him to reflect out national sentiment.
The fact that Cheney and the like remain consistent is at least honest and consistent. And it shows just what stupidity bordering on evil they represent.
Thank goodness we have David Johnson to speak eloquently and gently of the greatness of Mandela.
Wild Turkey 12/9/2013 8:52:36 AM Report

Good morning Mr. Grump.I did the math, and you are surely outnumbered on the home-front,by "the fair sex".Ican sure see why you hold your views regarding female driving abilities.With the deck stacked so overwhelmingly against you, you likely don't prevail in too many "discussions".(L.O.L.)
Wild Turkey 12/9/2013 9:29:00 AM Report

Good Morning David---A couple of questions for you this blustery day------
# 1 any updates on your recent B & E ?It's never fun when that happens!!
# 2 I'm not "up" on some of the new computerspeak terminology.What in blazes does &#65533 mean ?
Have a great day---Wild Turkey
Zing 12/9/2013 9:29:06 AM Report

Grump

Sounds like you're the only rooster in the hen-house...LOL
Grump 12/9/2013 10:30:15 AM Report

I am a bit outnumbered but I used to have a grand time with them. I used to light them up like Christmas trees by playing the chauvinist. They all got wise to me and now, no matter how hard I try to wind them, they just nod and smile. I have some consultation as two of my son-in-laws are men's men. They all treat their wives properly but the other three are a bit hen pecked. I guess what ever works for you.
DutchTouch 12/9/2013 10:30:42 AM Report

No wonder Grump sounds grumpy once in a while.
He could be a little "henpecked'! ;)
realitycheck 12/9/2013 10:39:47 AM Report

When the Americans fought for independence, do you think any of them might have been considered terrorists under today's standards? And in South Africa, do you not think that many of the ruling whites could have been labelled terrorists considering how they treated the blacks?
DutchTouch 12/9/2013 10:47:20 AM Report

Realityicheck: Exactly right on both counts. When the 'whites" start accusing "blacks" like Mandella of being terrorists then they'd better take a very deep look at their own past behaviors.
flyhawk25 12/9/2013 10:57:34 AM Report

Dutchy...exactly.
Consider some of the stuff Cheney sanctioned over the years. And then tell me he isn't a terrorist.
As for Santorum and the rest of the John Wayne wannabees - I'd love to see them on patrol in Afghanistan and see how quickly their 'morality' goes out the window.
And don't get me started on Harper and his neo-con cowboys.
Life is more complicated than most of these clowns understand.
Wild Turkey 12/9/2013 10:58:14 AM Report

George Washington immediately comes to mind.Burned Loyalist homes and forced many families to flee to present day Ontario.Turns out the proverbial cherry tree incident occurred when he swept through The Mohawk villages and uprooted all of their fruit trees and burned all of their stored grain.They sided with the crown and were duly "punished".They were rewarded for their loyalty by being granted a huge tract of land along the Grand River.
The guy on the $1.00 bill sure had his dark side.
redranger 12/9/2013 11:01:04 AM Report

Shakey
Great to hear you are also a fan of the late Stan Rogers. A friend of mine at Algoma was also. It is very probable that you know him since was a History Prof (Bill N). I have about 80 songs by Stan and I gave Bill a copy of them. He lost that CD and I had to make another. If you would like a copy, I could make one available to you. At this moment, I am listening to "The Witch of Westmorland". Absolutely delightful.
flyhawk25 12/9/2013 11:06:02 AM Report

Old George, like the rest of his peers was a product of the times.
And like all great leaders he had both good and bad qualities.
That is why Abe Lincoln is my favorite - a man who held the rule of law tempered with mercy and a vision of a 'united' country.
I doubt that given the present system we'll ever see leaders like him.
mallet 12/9/2013 11:32:50 AM Report


Grump..

If Mr Johnson had been elected by the People of Canada I could agree with you whole heartedly, however his is an appointed position as representative of the Crown, whereas Mr Harper is the elected representative of the people (well a percentage of them) of Canada. Now wether we like it or not for many years Mr Mandela was regarded by many governments as a terrorist, passive or not, makes no difference, except in the minds of people who agree or disagree with the South African Aparthied system of the time, that time came to an end, and thus Mr Mandela's designation as a terrorist did to, to many countries, BUT not all..
Budster 12/9/2013 11:46:51 AM Report

Fly:
Integrity and accountability are 2 reasons why today's gov'ts can't get quality people. Dollars buys power and it is an addiction. Good or bad character has nothing to do with being chosen the one to lead a gov't. Manipulating words is a profession and most politions are one or have one in their pocket. It is not considered polite to call people liars it may cause you to question their integrity.
66cherokee 12/9/2013 11:49:03 AM Report

I am not responding to anything posted, but the news that Neal Young will be performing 4 concerts and giving the money to Aboriginal against the oil sands. Little do people know that these Aboriginal Bands receive money(hand over fists as the saying goes) from the Americans to fight this, even thought the Americans frack more oil than Canada. What hypocrisy. They get money from the Tide Foundations, etc.
BIG BROTHER 12/9/2013 12:28:43 PM Report

Yup, and we used to think the earth was the center of the universe. There may still be some who do. Therefore, are they wrong??

Louis Riel was labelled a crazed rebel and was hung for his stance. He is now considered to be a Canadian hero and is honored in Canadian history as a hero.

Mandella stood up against evil. Evil labelled him a terrorist. Those who cannot see this have blinders on and are standing squarely on the wrong side of history.
shakespeare 12/9/2013 12:46:31 PM Report

Thanks for your offer RR. Even though I enjoy Stan's music, I don't have any in my collection. When we saw his band, apart from Stan's astounding voice, I was very impressed with the versatility of Garnet's playing.
highway1 12/9/2013 12:52:28 PM Report

http://aptn.ca/news/2011/04/30/u-s-considers-native-canadian-groups-as-possible-terror-threats-embassy-cables/
lookaround 12/9/2013 12:57:09 PM Report

Neo con cowboys who will be booted out with a pointy boot in 2015.
soowat 12/9/2013 12:57:12 PM Report

There are some really cool pictures of Jacob's rink @

http://store.winnipegfreepress.com/photostore/photo-search/?keyword=From+left%3A+skip+Jennifer+Jones+Kaitlyn+Lawes+Jill+Officer+and+Dawn+McEwen+show+off+their+medals+after+beating+Sherry+Middaugh+8-4+to+win+the+Roar+of+the+Rings+Olympic+curling+trials+on+the+women%27s+side+Jones+and+her+rink+will+represent+Canada+at+the+Winter+Olympics+in+Sochi+Russia+in+February+2014&refferer=wfp&page=2
Zing 12/9/2013 1:08:52 PM Report

66cherokee

The Aboriginal groups against fracking would have had to apply for funding from Tide Foundation. http://tidescanada.org/

Tide gets funding from anywhere in the world and gives it to whomever they wish.

How does this affect you?
shakespeare 12/9/2013 1:13:26 PM Report

Oh no! I see that I have been incorrectly put on Spelly's list for the true spelling of "snibbits"
Not many understand the Marx connection, either. Helmut and Griselda Schnibbits (soon anglicised to Snibbits) were emigrants from Germany to London at the same time as Karl Marx. As many know, most of Marx's research and writing took place in London's British Museum. Griselda was a cleaning lady there and was fascinated by seeing Marx scribbling away every day. She took to taking his scraps of discarded paper from the bin and showing it to her husband, an aspiring author. It was these scraps that her husband tried to piece together and pass off as his own. He was soon exposed and so as a mockery of his attempt the term "snibbits" as in "snibbits (or scraps) of information" evolved. It was later erroneously bastardized by dictionaries into "snippets"
Wisenheimer 12/9/2013 1:14:19 PM Report

Many Quebecois think the Paul Roses and Bernard Lorties of the FLQ, were on the right side of history. Their proclamations and treatises were eerily similar to that of Mandela's Umkhonto we Sizwe.
One man's hero is another man's terrorist.
Oldie Goldie 12/9/2013 1:18:06 PM Report

Just to change the Topic a little bit---Can anyone tell me why Conrad Black is still in Canada---He denounced his Canadian Citizenship to become a Lord in Great Britain but he wants his Canadian Citizenship back---But as long as Chretien is alive that will not happen.
Some of his Criminal Activities happened in Canada---does Canada harbor Criminals now ? Perhaps it is because he is a staunch Conservative !
steelworker 12/9/2013 1:24:32 PM Report

Maybe if we put a rag on his head and let him live with the Khadr family you would be happy.
realitycheck 12/9/2013 1:26:06 PM Report

BIG BROTHER:
Right on.

Wisen:
Yeah. We were as mean to the Quebecois as the ruling whites were to the blacks in South Africa. get real.
Wisenheimer 12/9/2013 1:39:54 PM Report

reality .. you might want to re-read my post, and try real hard to understand it.
lookaround 12/9/2013 1:51:26 PM Report

Mandela was the most beloved person in South Africa. He was fighting for the rights we all enjoy in a democratic world. All of sudden we have examples of this and that, FLQ, the American Revolution blather blather. Always trouble makers. Then again we have that tarte Margaret Thatcher who was not beloved.
flyhawk25 12/9/2013 2:16:36 PM Report

If you want to be beloved buy a dog.None of us are as good, cute or brilliant as our mothers' think.
And few of us are as bad as our foes might portray us.
We are a complex species and few share the secrets of our souls. Self criticism is a rare virtue that not many have.
And I wish I knew why some have it and some don't.
Bill_the_Cat 12/9/2013 2:44:53 PM Report

fly: quite so.

Is it a leader's job to be 'beloved'? Even Churchill, respected as he was, was turfed after the war. Only later was his image renovated. Nixon has received somewhat of a polishing of late when looking at his foreign policy.

Thatcher made many enemies--who doesn't? Only those bitter Unite folks (with their hardcore lefty toadies) made a fuss at her funereal procession. Most of us just quietly payed our respects and moved on.

She was a great, though flawed, Prime Minister. Her great failure was her inability to follow through with the necessary reforms to the state. Your mileage may vary.

Major was a complete turd though. Still is.

theprotector 12/9/2013 2:46:22 PM Report

how about an arc welder to your tongue dumbass - lazy steelworker, go back to your shift sleeping
steelworker 12/9/2013 2:52:53 PM Report

You speak more gooder English than your mom.
Wild Turkey 12/9/2013 5:00:28 PM Report

And an eery hush fell over the room------
Grump 12/9/2013 5:18:59 PM Report

Wild Turkey you are right, Steely could screw up a two car parade. He would make a great fellow to clear out unwelcome guests.
steelworker 12/9/2013 5:33:49 PM Report

I try to keep the cockroaches under control.
steelworker 12/9/2013 5:34:21 PM Report

Napkin or diaper?
Spellchecker 12/9/2013 6:59:49 PM Report

Shakey, sorry for erroneously putting you on the WORDS OF THE WEEK listing. I expected to hear from you but I didn't realize I was going to get an education out of it.
flyhawk25 12/9/2013 7:33:03 PM Report

Finally - kiddies' playtime is over. The Mac and Cheese is cleaned up and bath time is finished and the children are off the computer.
Thank goodness.
steelworker 12/9/2013 7:44:01 PM Report

Why; was there a diaper sale somewhere?
Bill_the_Cat 12/9/2013 7:44:46 PM Report

wow
shakespeare 12/9/2013 7:59:09 PM Report

So Canada is set to claim the North Pole. If that is true it could mean untold wealth for us all. Santa and his workshop would fall under Canada's judisdiction. We could put a tax on all overseas gifts, pay the elves minimum wage ... the possibilities are limitless.
shakespeare 12/9/2013 7:59:55 PM Report

make that "jurisdiction"
shakespeare 12/9/2013 8:34:54 PM Report

Before I forget, thank you, Hunter 101 for going to the trouble to respond last night. It was articulate and sincere. I respect that.
Remember, though, a memorable quotation from Marx was, "All I know is that I am not a Marxist"
BIG BROTHER 12/9/2013 8:57:22 PM Report

Shakey,
I was wondering about Canada's claim also. Never thought of the Santa hook though. Apparently, Russia is a contender for the disputed territory though.

I guess 'climate change' has changed the integrity of Arctic ice and could potentially provide alternative passage to the other side of the world. Walmart goodies delivered directly to Halifax from China. Imagine the savings provided by less handling of the goodies.
old-cat33 12/9/2013 9:00:15 PM Report

I have a dumb ass question?
Being that the mayor of Sault Ste Marie is going to Timmins with a wish list with the rest of us northern people.....
Where does Northern Ontario begin? North Bay?
T-rat 12/9/2013 9:25:33 PM Report

Old-Cat33: It isn't a dumb ass question. The provincial Ministry of Northern Affairs Act - 1977 created a distinct geographical area of the province -- Northern Ontario. Certain legislation and perks at the time, applied to Northern Ontario that did not apply in other areas of the province. If memory serves me correctly, Northern Ontario was that part of the province north of an eastern point starting at Mattawa, running along Hwy. 17 and the French River to Georgian Bay, and of course, the north shore of Huron/Superior (including Manitoulin Island), and along the Minnesota border to Manitoba.

In later years places like Parry Sound wanted in on the perks. I believe that Ernie Eves was the local MPP. The boundary was extended south to Point au Baril/Severn River area. In later years the Ministry of Northern Affairs Act was revoked, as was the ministry itself with the creation of the Ministry of Northern Development and Mines. Generally speaking I believe that this expanded area is still considered Northern Ontario, and includes Algonquin Park.
debo 12/9/2013 10:11:39 PM Report

Shakes

Thanks for a very informative mini-dissertation on the etymology of snibbets/snippets. And of course our resident language pathologist Spellmeister was gracious in acknowledging his slip ... unlike a couple of "wannabe" dieners who post here.


Spelly

Glad you're back!
Wisenheimer 12/9/2013 10:29:45 PM Report

What's a diener?
Hunter101 12/9/2013 11:38:28 PM Report

shakespeare, not a problem.
Mark Brown 12/10/2013 1:32:13 AM Report

Thanks Spelly,

Two mistakes in one sentence... that's an modern day record for me!

Thank you for pointing out that it's "lo and behold", and "you have piqued my interest". I appreciate it very much :)

Sincerely and Respectfully,
Mark Brown
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