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View Room Comments for Friday, Dec. 6 2013

Friday, December 06, 2013   by: The View RoomWelcome to the View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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David Poluck 12/6/2013 6:43:46 AM Report

Rise and shine!!
It's Friday!!
Grump 12/6/2013 6:59:17 AM Report

David I have risen, several hours ago but have to tell you there is no shine. rw you are going to have to stop letting Rush do your thinking for you. He couldn't even make it as a plumber because he doesn't know crap about crap. That said good morning everyone, have a great day.
flyhawk25 12/6/2013 7:07:44 AM Report

Good morning.
Stayed up to watch Team Jacobs last night. By their own admission not their best performance but still good enough to win.One more to go .
Go Brad and the lads!
Grump 12/6/2013 7:16:58 AM Report

I had a sinking feeling during the game but they pulled it off in the end. Another group who have put the Sault on the map in a big way. Congratulations to team Jacobs on a tough win.
David Poluck 12/6/2013 7:18:29 AM Report

Grump, Rising is a good start. Shining takes strong coffee!
Grump 12/6/2013 7:34:31 AM Report

David in my case the would have to strap me to a car roof and sent it through the car wash. lol
David Poluck 12/6/2013 7:41:42 AM Report

A bit nippy this morning to do that!
This morning we had another 1:45 wake up!
Time to build a mote!
Zing 12/6/2013 9:07:30 AM Report

Or a moat.:)
David Poluck 12/6/2013 9:17:04 AM Report of those! A big one! lol
Canna D. Yenn 12/6/2013 10:11:34 AM Report

Nelson Mandela, The Elder, died yesterday.

If there ever was a person who, by definition, was a candidate for the honour of being called an Elder, Nelson Mandela is most deserving.

Without going into details, (there is plenty written about his classic struggles) his credentials are intrinsically linked to such experiences as tyranny, oppression, activism, redemption, forgiveness and reconciliation. I believe these are more than sufficient prerequisites.

I was able to visit his beloved country after the end of apartheid, an experience I shall never forget. While being ten years on, I nevertheless witnessed the remnants of apartheid; class struggle, attitudes, and the chasms amongst the identifiable, all based on colour.

However, whether I was in Cape Town, Joburg, Pietersberg (now called Polokwane), East London, or Alice, I sensed in their citizenry, whether by name, deed, or experiential change, a supportive ownership of the ideals of this man.

Mr. Mandela, The Elder, will be sorely missed.
flyhawk25 12/6/2013 10:48:18 AM Report

Another tribute to Mandela. This time from someone who also was in SA.
The silence from the swamp is deafening.
soowat 12/6/2013 10:59:54 AM Report

Another comment on poor highway maintenance in the north.
theprotector 12/6/2013 11:08:11 AM Report

easy fly...dont wake them...its the only time the IQ in this room is respectable, they show up and the stats end up tanking!
Zing 12/6/2013 11:19:45 AM Report

Obviously too late...hahaha
theprotector 12/6/2013 11:22:32 AM Report

oh..nice one...hey wait a minute....!
soowat 12/6/2013 12:10:20 PM Report

A piece of trivia some may find interesting:

"1956 - Nelson Mandela & 156 others arrested for political activities in S Africa."
soowat 12/6/2013 12:11:33 PM Report

I should have clarified That the date was Dec 6,1956
flyhawk25 12/6/2013 12:18:31 PM Report

The whole country of S.Africa is in a ten day mourning period and the rest of the world recognizes the passing of a man who changed history.
Except our very own swamp dwellers.
The silence, avoidance and probable deflection will once again place them in the forefront of ignorance.But doggone it they will stubbornly cling to their insensitivity and ignorance instead of just apologizing and moving on.
Mandela's death has not only silenced a great voice for justice, forgiveness and redemption but it may just have silenced the voices of a tiny cabal of lunatic neo-con fools who think they have answers for everyone and everything.
But in reality for nothing.

lookaround 12/6/2013 12:18:39 PM Report

RIP Nelson Mandela. You are an inspiration to the world. I wish our current leaders in this country had a 1/100th the courage and dedication to their people(S) as he did. A true man that loved his people and even under duress he maintained a stoic and dignified presence.
Grump 12/6/2013 12:20:14 PM Report

I have to wonder how these neo-cons can square a Conservative Prime Minister giving Nelson Mandela honourary Canadian citizenship? I guess Rush didn't explain that well enough.
Wild Turkey 12/6/2013 12:32:18 PM Report

Well at least Justin, Steve, and Tom can agree on something.Maybe there Is some light at the end of the tunnel.
flyhawk25 12/6/2013 12:34:19 PM Report

That sucking sound you hear is the swamp draining and the death rattle of the last few.
At least until spring when the new eggs hatch.
These new ones should have even fewer brain cells if that is possible.
Remember the blessed silence after the last Obama victory?
We're experiencing it again.
theprotector 12/6/2013 1:08:31 PM Report

is it true about all the bombings and women and childern he killed in the 1950s as leader of the uprising?
Just Curious 12/6/2013 1:14:11 PM Report

We all make mistakes...;).
learningaswego 12/6/2013 1:15:00 PM Report

Hey, fellow small "c" conservatives, post something here will 'ya?

The lefties' incessant whining is pathetic.

They whine when we post; and now they're whining - even worse - when we don't. Seems they miss their small c conservative sparring mates.

I guess because you're not on here trying to outdo each other, like the lefties, in who "feels" the most about the passing of Mr. Mandela.

Throw the poor lonely saps a line or two to get all frothed up about, will 'ya? I know you're busy - as you're probably out there - you know being productive or useful in some way; but try, try to fit it in - you know, in the name of human compassion.
Prometheus 12/6/2013 1:35:52 PM Report

Just for the record.

Mr. Mandela's Honourary Canadian citizenship was bestowed in 2001 under the Liberal government of Mr Chretien.
flyhawk25 12/6/2013 2:03:45 PM Report

Now it looks like the swamp army is emptying its bench.Typically they want someone to tell them what's 'true'.
Put down the video controls dummy and look it up yourself.
Sheesh - does your mum dress you in the morning?
Just do me a favor and don't listen to Rush. His track record on facts stinks worse than the swamp leader's.
lookaround 12/6/2013 2:14:11 PM Report

Flyhawk when a swamp freezes and then thaws all you have is methane gas. I gas I mean guess that sums it all UP. A whole lot of Hot Gas in the swamp.
Wild Turkey 12/6/2013 2:18:45 PM Report

Now Mussel Shoals has got the Swampers,
They've been known to pick a song or two
Lord they give me soooo much,
They pick me up when I'm feelin' blue
Now how 'bout you?
Sweet home Alabama-----
D'yall mean Those swampers?
flyhawk25 12/6/2013 2:28:36 PM Report

My fave from there are the Dixie Hummingbirds. And this ain't the same group pal.
These guys can't sing, can't chew gum and talk and can barely put sentences together.
And they definitely can't walk upright.
steelworker 12/6/2013 2:28:41 PM Report

How about the blessed silence after the last Harper victory? I almost wet myself watching Craig Oliver implode during the election results. As for Obama; I think he needs just one more term to finish off The United States for good.
learningaswego 12/6/2013 2:40:30 PM Report

Yes, that was priceless, steelworker.

Also at that time, it looked like Fife was going to spit his dentures right out of his face; and the other Harper - hater guy ...Don the Humpty Dumpty head doofus...looked like his egg head might crack. It was glorious, to be sure.
They all thought they had "done their job" to convince voters that Harper was the evil spawn of Satan. But alas, the voters flipped them - and the rest of the Harper-haters in the media - the bird; and instead THE VOTERS decided who wins.
steelworker 12/6/2013 2:51:16 PM Report

In other news Obama told reporters that he couldn't decide who would make a better President: Joe Biden or Billary Clinton. He stated that Biden would go down in history as one of the best V.P.'s America ever had. Please give Rob Ford back his crackpipe. The Fall of America continues...
flyhawk25 12/6/2013 2:51:36 PM Report

This week the US unemployment rate is 7%.
That doggone socialistic, pinko, unAmerican got lucky again.
Must be all those McJobs filling up before Christmas owned by 'real Americans'.
theprotector 12/6/2013 2:52:23 PM Report

harper??/ Victory??/BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
steelworker whats it like marrying your sister?
steelworker 12/6/2013 2:58:31 PM Report

How's shacking up with your brother/father working out?
steelworker 12/6/2013 2:58:48 PM Report

learningaswego 12/6/2013 3:01:34 PM Report

US employment rate has been increasing - thanks in part to "right to work legislation" passed in many states. Many manufacturing companies have either returned to the US, or are now setting up there - in areas that are business-friendly.
Companies - you know those big evil corporations - that make it possible for people to make a living, grow a family; and thus make it possible for governments to provide programs for people that can't - you know - THOSE big evil corporations, actually like to set up shop where THEY get to run their company, not unions; and where words like productivity and profit are not considered evil.
If Ontario was smart - that is, Ontario political leaders were smart - they would be falling over themselves to get "right to work" legislation here.
flyhawk25 12/6/2013 3:06:30 PM Report

News flash - only 7% of US workers are unionized.
learningaswego 12/6/2013 3:37:01 PM Report

That's likely because 50% of the population is on food stamps now -

Obummer's biggest "success" - his claim to fame - You can hear it now at his exit speech "...This government helped more food stamp recipients than any other government in US history..."
Grump 12/6/2013 3:40:11 PM Report

Steely and you too Learning. Diaper?
steelworker 12/6/2013 3:55:18 PM Report

Why, you got some spares that you're not wearing for toques? I hope they are not full.
learningaswego 12/6/2013 4:19:06 PM Report

touche, steelworker, touche LMAO

the score: Steelworker 1
Grumpypants 0
shakespeare 12/6/2013 4:19:40 PM Report

mallet: have you seen the World Cup groups? Looks like England got a tough draw against all those nasty Latin types! The draw was definitely fixed and if England doesn't make it into the second round it will be because of bad officiating or dirty play by their opponents. My love for Italy will be definitely be on-hold next summer.
mallet 12/6/2013 4:49:06 PM Report


No I have not looked yet, I have been viewing the destruction caused by the storm surge they had along the east coast. I imagine there will be some increases in insurance rates in the UK to cover this little storm. Go to EEN24 if you want to see what the power of the sea is like. I will now go see what the football looks like ... also to see if we have a manager at Norwich City this time tomorrow...
mallet 12/6/2013 4:59:58 PM Report


Couple of ex cup holders there Italy and Uruguay, not sure about Costa Rica though, sometimes the glory of beating a well known team brings out just that little extra. Uruguay has Suarez, who put 4 past Norwich last saturday (rotten bugger) helping Liverpool stay near the top.. Anyhow not the easiest of draws thats for sure, England will have to put on a great performance to advance..
mallet 12/6/2013 5:31:18 PM Report


Whilst we are mourning the death of one African, perhaps we could give thought to some of the other hundreds and thousands who are dying on the "Dark" continent. It seems the colonial powers did very little to enhance the chances of the other countries beside South Africa. We seem to have left a legacy of thugs and dictators of one sort or another with very little idea of "Democracy" amoung any of them.. Too bad they could not all have had a Mandela to lead them...
steelworker 12/6/2013 5:33:12 PM Report

Africa always has been and always will be a mess in spite of people like Mandela.
shakespeare 12/6/2013 5:34:45 PM Report

Checked out the Fens, mallet, and they took a beating. Second major storm for southern England in a month. More extreme weather seems to be the trend everywhere. Just talked with my Calgary daughter, where they have the coldest day in two years. We have snow squalls in the forecast. I blame Harper.
flyhawk25 12/6/2013 5:35:28 PM Report

mallet...I love reading your soccer discourse with Shakes.
First off I don't know anything about soccer. But reading this reminds me of how limited my sporting view is.
But it also conjures up memories of people from my past with lovely manners and a grace in all they did. And overcooked food, apricots and lousy dental plans.
Ha! Makes me want to put HP sauce on my supper tonight - my sainted mother's idea of flavor enhancement for well done everything.
steelworker 12/6/2013 5:43:11 PM Report

Overcooked roast beef and boiled potatoes.
Wisenheimer 12/6/2013 6:08:06 PM Report

Couldn't play today. Too busy re-allocating for the Santa Claus rally.
Someone want to run that global warming thing by us again?

flyhawk25 12/6/2013 6:12:46 PM Report

I've used this line many times - the French say that you should never trust a country with only one religion and two sauces.
I was grown before I realized that all meat was not grey and that steamed veggies and spices were wonderful.Who knew?
So I married someone who cooked Italian food, gained forty pounds in a few years and loved every minute of our 'cucina d'amore'.
shakespeare 12/6/2013 6:37:38 PM Report

fly and steely: you may make your digs at the U.K. fare, although by steely's vocabulary ("smarmy" is a great word) I would guess that 'e's had a little bubble and squeak in his younger days.
The Brits are doing much better now. My recent trip confirmed that the restaurant food is actually bordering on "not bad" and "pretty fair" in quite a few instances. Peas and baked beans are not served with everything (including lasagna) any more. The chips (French fries) are, as usual, top notch. Salad is no longer an exotic European extravagance. H.P. sauce is always at hand but more to add a nuance to ... to ... well almost anything, just as ketchup is here (I use neither).
All in all, the state of English cuisine is at least on a par with the state of its football (soccer).
shakespeare 12/6/2013 6:49:35 PM Report

Wisenheimer and Santa Claus is not a concept that, in my mind, readily fits together. It's like Darth Vader and the Easter Bunny.
mallet 12/6/2013 7:09:10 PM Report


Yes my home town of Sheringham had the prome broken up again and the pier at Cromer (my old stamping ground) was fairly badly damaged. Also the houses at Hemsby which slid down the dunes and are now gone, although that book Spellchecker quotes sometimes says something about building your house on sand, perhaps a lesson well learned.
Perhaps one day we can teach Flyhawk some of the finer points of Soccer (football) and Rugby (american football without the padding and changes)..
shakespeare 12/6/2013 7:33:04 PM Report

Had an Easter holiday in Cromer, when I was about 10.
My dad used to complain that the English taught the world how to play football, rugby and cricket and then the world had the nerve to beat us at them.
Regarding the padding and the changes, I agree entirely. When I came over here I couldn't believe the paraphernalia that all these "athletes" have to wear to protect themselves in football, hockey and baseball and the substitutions. I mean, who the hell needs to wear a glove to catch a baseball? It's all wimpy (yes, I played baseball here and caught the ball easily without a glove)
A few weeks ago I was at Olympia, where the first games were held in Greece. Men performed naked as it was a testament to the purity of the sport and the unassisted performance of the athletes. Just look at the trussed up, farmed heroes that we turn out, today.
flyhawk25 12/6/2013 7:40:37 PM Report

Aha! Rugby is a game I understand.Football without protection played by squat, tough guys with missing teeth, smashed noses and a penchant for good beer and ribald songs sung with the opposition.
My good friend is the past president of the Brampton Rugby Club.Their juke box in their clubhouse - the 'Merseyside' - only has Beatles tunes on it.
mallet 12/6/2013 8:12:35 PM Report


What!! No Gerry and the Pacemakers with their classic "Ferry cross the Mersey, Shame on them..
Now to a question to see how much you know about Rugby, Do they play League or Union?? No googling or calls to find out, EH!
mallet 12/6/2013 8:41:02 PM Report


Ah for the good old days when men were men and women were!!! Now look here, you can't have a multi-million dollar asset running around a football field here without all that padding, he may get hurt, and as for Baseball, I've watched paint dry faster, but didn't we call that "rounders".. I don't think Cricket would take over here though for the simple reason of some of the positions one has to play, "silly mid on and silly mid off would defintely put them off. As for Hockey, well what can I say, how you can stretch a one hour game to three hours just so you can drink more beer, well MADD should be up in arms. Now field Hockey (or Hackey) is a much better game, I have played (in my much younger days) against some girls teams, they never played fair, anyone without a cup was fair game.. anyways you have a good night... it's kind of noisey out here tonight, the surf is really pounding...
lookaround 12/6/2013 8:48:04 PM Report

Just observing occasionally. mind you, some posters as Steelworker are mind numbing with their inane comments.
flyhawk25 12/6/2013 9:10:13 PM Report

mallet...I have no idea which is what.
But I will e-mail my chum and ask.
Just don't hold your breath. 'Tis the season and he may be into Hannukah or any other reason to celebrate.
Plus - he's slowing down. Too many rowdy days.And nights.
Some I remember. Others I try to forget.
Jimssm 12/6/2013 9:33:39 PM Report

The colonial powers do not enhance Africa, they rape it.

Example... Belgium in the Congo. Over 10 MILLION Congolese killed under King Leopold II. Then when they rose up and forced the Belgians out, their democratically-elected leader was assassinated by the CIA and replaced by the dictator Mobutu.

Half the population died, and the West was silent.
mallet 12/6/2013 10:42:18 PM Report


I think we could both name a few not so desirable leaders who have starred in Africa, Amin, Mugabe, are just two more that come to mind. As I said earlier, the colonial powers did not do a very good job in the countries they controlled, and sure did not leave those countries with very much of a legacy of democracy. On must also consider that until 150 years ago there were hardly any countries per se in Africa, as it was mostly tribal in nature, and until the colonial powers carved it up probably got along quite well..
right wing 12/6/2013 11:10:45 PM Report

I'm sure catching a soft ball with no glove is not an issue.
I would like to watch you catch a hardball at around 85 miles an hour.
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