Grump 10/22/2013 5:12:54 AM Report
Good morning all, off to the barn to get my little knee job. Will catch up in a day or so. Have a great day all.
irishfey 10/22/2013 5:52:51 AM Report
Grump... praying for you my friend... remember... do not try and lift your leg without the support of the good leg!!! Will be thinking of you...
Mark Brown 10/22/2013 5:53:21 AM Report
Good morning Grump and the rest of you VRoomers,
All the best with your surgery Grump, and please say hello to skipper for me if you see him. I'm missing our skipper's wise and frequent postings, and I hope the two of you get back to the VRoom, full time, very soon.
Godspeed dear friend.
Let's try a different tack (you like that skipper) with the Budget Input:
What do you want VRoomers want City Council to spend MORE money on this year?
Sincerely and Respectfully,
P.S. There were a few things worth mentioning at yesterday's meetings, like the Public Library Board actively discussing, for about 10 full minutes, ways they could save money on one SIGNIFICANT expenditure (I wish City Council would act in a similar fashion), and the United Way going out to the community, the citizens of SSM, FIRST in order to decide what needs to be fixed in our community (I wish City Council would act in a similar fashion). I will be reporting on these things in more detail in the coming days. For now...
VRoom, VRoom... start your discussions!
David Poluck 10/22/2013 6:03:54 AM Report
New from George Lucas,
"Duffy Strikes Back"
Guaranteed to make those of the Liberal persuasion happy and Conservatives cringe.
The blame game Canada style!
BIG BROTHER 10/22/2013 7:25:18 AM Report
You're right Dave. The 'Duffster' is clearing his throat and getting ready to sing an opera. Harper is busy looking busy, throwing bones like de-bundling cable. Wow....this merits a Throne Speech!! Dave Johnson looked embarrassed presenting that speech. It's not even an election platform speech, let alone a Throne Speech.
Now, we see the RCMP acting like Harper's personal police team. This guy (Harper) puts any and all of Chretien's arrogance in a back seat.
David Poluck 10/22/2013 7:51:21 AM Report
BB the story I saw last night has Duffy claiming he was set up.
I'm sure the truth is out there somewhere.
As a past media professional, can we trust Duffy's account?
Retreaded 10/22/2013 8:00:03 AM Report
Duffy and Wallin would never have paid back any money IF they truly felt they were innocent. No one in their right mind would do that. THEY BOTH DESERVE WHAT THEY GET. They did one good thing though...they brought the need for senate reform or abolishment to the forefront.
flyhawk25 10/22/2013 8:35:43 AM Report
It is deliciously ironic that the PM who promised Senate reform would have some of his Senate picks come back to haunt him.
And now he wants us to trust him over an EU free trade agreement?
David Poluck 10/22/2013 8:42:59 AM Report
Oh,,the weather outside is frightful but the snow is soooo delightful,
BIG BROTHER 10/22/2013 8:43:17 AM Report
The tighter the vice gets on the Duffster's jewels, the more he's gonna sing. And it will be falsetto by the time this issue is put to rest!
flyhawk25 10/22/2013 8:57:58 AM Report
Right now Harper is trying to write the final chapter in his legacy.
As he looks for an exit strategy it appears he's trying to leave on a high note. Unfortunately that note is the sound of Duffy screaming and getting ready to sing.
David Poluck 10/22/2013 9:21:01 AM Report
Look at it this way, The Prime Minister is keeping his word.
Senate reform is happening and without his office's involvement it wouldn't be happening.
Defiantly has the public attention!
But will all the hub bub yield any tangible difference?
bounder 10/22/2013 9:24:48 AM Report
Duffy/Wallin/Brazeau expelled from the senate, a lot of heavy weights going, maybe,in more ways than one.
Mark Brown 10/22/2013 9:50:44 AM Report
Nobody wants to say what they want City Council to spend our money on?!? Sheesh.
No wonder City Hall treats us like an ATM.
TFinn 10/22/2013 10:05:48 AM Report
How about a new poll SooToday ..??
Is the Queen St project ...
1) greatly affecting people of the Sault
2) on time, no worries
3) time for accountability and heads may roll ..!
realitycheck 10/22/2013 10:10:25 AM Report
"It is deliciously ironic that the PM who promised Senate reform would have some of his Senate picks come back to haunt him.
And now he wants us to trust him over an EU free trade agreement?"
I don't think you can tie Harper's ill-fated choices of Duffy and Wallin for the Senate to decisions like taking us into a trade agreement with the EU. The two have turned out to be terrible choices, all right, but would you have thought that when they were chosen? They were well-respected hard-hitting news people. To me, they looked like good choices who might even do some good things in an institution I believe should be abolished. Who knew?
Nunavut 10/22/2013 10:19:45 AM Report
its time for a gas prices rant !
gas prices in Northbay are twelve cents less than us and in Mattawa 14 cents less. We are getting raped by Mc Fuels and the gas stations they distribute to.
As for Queen Street we CANNOT go into 2014 with further closure in spring . This is beyond ridiculous ! Wellington street east is already a tight squeeze and dangerously congested at times and going into another winter of partial lanes will be very unsafe. I would suggest that anyone that has accidents consider demanding restitution from city.
flyhawk25 10/22/2013 10:27:01 AM Report
realitycheck...I can and I will.
It speaks to sound judgement. It speaks to priorities.
And it speaks to saying one thing and doing another.
Finally it speaks to what kind of leader do we want?
bounder 10/22/2013 10:34:39 AM Report
At least we have the luxury of going over the bridge, some of us not all. Theft comes in many forms.
right wing 10/22/2013 10:41:40 AM Report
So the school boards are in the same boat as Harper in one posters mind.
They have hired teachers that were then charged with sexually molesting students.
"It speaks to sound judgement."
Guess they should have used that magic crystal ball that he uses.
right wing 10/22/2013 10:43:43 AM Report
...and Big Bro, don't use "vise" as an analogy...apparently it is insulting to some of the more sensitive posters.
right wing 10/22/2013 10:46:49 AM Report
"Try as I might to be even tempered the repeated labels and taunts from our two neo-cons is wearing.
It seems they believe they are always right and everyone else is wrong."
It is statements like the above that make you understand how one could come up with such a great phrase like "The pot calling the kettle black".
learningaswego 10/22/2013 10:47:15 AM Report
Yeah, can't wait to see the HYPOCRISY of the Dippers, Libs, and of course the anti-conservative, Harper-hating media.
Since Duffy's alleged misuse of expenses has come out, all of the above have been ranting to basically throw them out, after tarring and feathering them.
Now, of course, all the same hypocrites will be cheerleading Duffy to try to discredit the Conservatives.
There is no limit to the hypocrisy of the left, and their bedmates in the media.
flyhawk25 10/22/2013 10:50:19 AM Report
Now there's a stretch.Comparing alleged sex offenders being hired by a school board to a PM packing the Senate and making trade deals based on hope and change.
It's called faulty syllogisms but why let apples being compared to horse turds stop the neo-con rants.
Small wonder guys like Harper get elected with voters reasoning like that.
right wing 10/22/2013 10:52:47 AM Report
...and of course we hear nothing about Mac Harb, he quit but will still collect his pension of $123,000 for the rest of his life.
right wing 10/22/2013 10:55:19 AM Report
Speaking of slippery eels...nice try.
Talk about deflection.
Realitycheck challenged on the basis of who was to know and you came back that it comes down to "sound judgement", in other words Harper should have known what they would do.
The same applies to my analogy, pal!
right wing 10/22/2013 10:56:21 AM Report
...and I ain't talking about "alleged" I talking convicted.
Would you like a list.
flyhawk25 10/22/2013 11:00:35 AM Report
So let's see if I understand the latest neo-con reasoning.
But before we get to that - Harb is a bum and should be dumped too without a pension.
But to the issue - apparently the appointment of Wallin and Duffy are on the same scale as alleged hirings by school boards of sex offenders.
And the whole thing is just a liberal media driven witch hunt.
So therefore it really has nothing to do with Harper's leadership. Of course. Now I get it.
flyhawk25 10/22/2013 11:03:40 AM Report
'sex offenders' is just another attempt to deflect the issue from the case at hand.
The two are not remotely related but it is a typical example of muddled cheer leaders pushing to ignore the lack of leadership by Harper.
right wing 10/22/2013 11:07:26 AM Report
Again attempted deflection.
It comes down to your assertion that what they (senators) did simply comes down to a lack of "sound judgement".
This was your response to realitycheck when he made the following statement:
"They were well-respected hard-hitting news people. To me, they looked like good choices who might even do some good things in an institution I believe should be abolished. Who knew?"
Were these teachers not well respected...good choices...that they would do some good in an institution?
Was their criminal actions a reflection of bad judgement used on the part of those that hired them?
realitycheck 10/22/2013 11:17:13 AM Report
'sex offenders' is just another attempt to deflect the issue from the case at hand.
The two are not remotely related but it is a typical example of muddled cheer leaders pushing to ignore the lack of leadership by Harper.
If you do not see that the analogy Right Wing produced is apt, then your judgment is as far out as you believe the prime minister's is. The prime minister couldn't have foreseen how these two would turn out any more than those who do the hiring for the school boards could in regard to the teachers who turned out to be sex offenders. You appear to be letting your hatred and disdain for all things right to be clouding your judgment.
right wing 10/22/2013 11:18:45 AM Report
right wing 10/22/2013 11:38:40 AM Report
Gotta hate us swamp people.
flyhawk25 10/22/2013 11:49:44 AM Report
Sorry kids. The low level calonic was kicking in.
I don't know how to make it more plain. The two examples don't work.
And I have no intention in being pulled into a debate of how badly school boards mess up.
I spent years dealing with them.But to compare entry level local politicians to the PM is silly.
A screw up on the local level is bad enough. But a national screw up is different.
learningaswego 10/22/2013 12:02:22 PM Report
Yes, we get it.
We get that in reality Harper, nor any PM, is not responsible for what senators do; than a CEO of a company with 100,000 employees would know what every one of them does. In Harper's case, the media has had a vendetta since the public elected the Conservatives, instead of who the media thinks should be PM. Most of the msm hates Harper, mainly because he is a nerd; instead of who they think is "cool", or "charismatic". The media prefers the smooth-talking schmoozers like Jack Layton, who played the media like a bad fiddle. The opposition parties of course get all the face time they could ever want to try to discredit anything the government does, from the anti-conservative cheerleading media.
Yes, we get it. It stinks, but we get it.
David Poluck 10/22/2013 12:07:42 PM Report
RW, I'm just not sure it's a fair fight, Grump laid up and all.
Maybe I'm a different kind of conservative.
I want my elected representatives regardless of party affiliation to be worthy of the public trust.
It would be wonderful if we could just get down to the truth instead of dealing with the dueling accusations.
right wing 10/22/2013 12:10:19 PM Report
Ya we get it.
"It" got put in your face and you didn't like it.
realitycheck 10/22/2013 12:10:46 PM Report
Harper has brought a lot of his problems with the media on himself. He will only let a few of his people speak to the media and he seldom talks to them himself and never holds press conferences. The only thing he holds the media in is disdain. And while he can't be blamed for selecting the errant senators and for what they did, it remains to be seen what role he may have played in the screw-up that followed in regard to paying Duffy to go away. That, of course, has backfired.
right wing 10/22/2013 12:16:23 PM Report
Could not agree with you more.
I will also state that if it was ever proven that Harper knew what these senators were doing and turned a blind eye, I would be head of the let's toss him parade.
Unfortunately for P.M.'s of all party affiliation they appoint people who are...well, people...and as we all know people screw up.
It becomes an embarrassing red faced scenario for those that are in charge but the point that we are making is...how could the P.M. have known.
I would have liked to have seen Harper put on some pointy boots and done a bit more ass kicking but that's not his style.
Oldie Goldie 10/22/2013 12:21:15 PM Report
Right Wing and Learningaswego--I don't know how you can compare Bad Teachers with Bad Senators---Proven Sexual predator Teachers are fired and do not get their job back---Proven Cheating Senators can pay beck what they stole--- BUT---Get their job and pay back.
These are poor comparisons in an obvious attempt to deflect away from the Senate Scandals by both you neo-cons, in my opinion .
right wing 10/22/2013 12:27:00 PM Report
...and another organization rings in on the Harper E.U. deal.
Vancouver, October 18, 2013 – The BC Chamber of Commerce congratulates the government of Canada for achieving a highly-anticipated trade deal with the European Union, and urges the federal government to turn its energies to the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).
“A trade deal with the European Union slashes trade barriers and opens strong new opportunities for B.C. businesses to grow their exports to European markets,” said John Winter, president and CEO of the BC Chamber. “We applaud the federal government for working through many challenging issues and delivering this milestone trade deal for Canadians.”
The B.C. Chamber of Commerce represents some 36,000 business.
That's a lot of voters....
David Poluck 10/22/2013 12:27:26 PM Report
I would like to see an elected senate.
The appointment method currently used has been for years subject to abuse.
Can it be better than it is currently. Yes.
Coming up with how to make it better seems to elude all in Ottawa.
Scrapping it is the easy way out.
Reforming will take effort on the elected but I often wonder for all the talk is there really a will to go beyond the bluster?
right wing 10/22/2013 12:28:41 PM Report
That is not what the point is that is being made.
If cannot see that I'm sorry but I can't help you.
right wing 10/22/2013 12:30:31 PM Report
I too would like to see an elected senate.
I would like to see many issues that concern all Canadians put on the voting ballots...right down to appointed Judges.
I hear you on the reform...change is tough.
right wing 10/22/2013 12:31:06 PM Report
right wing 10/22/2013 12:34:39 PM Report
Did you happen to notice the condescending remark from the "teacher"...suddenly we are "kids"...some "teachers" hate being questioned.
Retreaded 10/22/2013 12:40:14 PM Report
Some "teachers" need a hobby...too much time spent on here lol..get out...enjoy the fall air.
David Poluck 10/22/2013 12:51:38 PM Report
Tell me about it.
Change comes slowly but it does happen.
I've watched what I've been involved with not only grow locally but now partnered with other associations from as far away as Northbay.
There is hope for democracy yet!
cathyh 10/22/2013 1:04:07 PM Report
How is Harper not responsible for appointing Wallin and Duffy and Brazeau? Does the PM not have a system check? Doesn't he have a staff that could identify where the senators mainly reside? How did they pass the smell test when they were being considered? The fact that the most basic rules of eligibility were overlooked looks pretty inefficient to me. I suspect they were overlooked in favor of the "star power" of the appointees.
right wing 10/22/2013 1:40:16 PM Report
Is a "system check" going to show if a person is going to scam expense accounts or outright break the law if a person has no prior record of doing this?
If so this "system" should have stopped politicians and senators of all political strips a long time ago.
Why didn't it?
Because such a fool proof system does not exist.
As far as the residence eligibility...again this was a grey area that had been going on for a long time.
Did it need to be addressed...absolutely.
bounder 10/22/2013 1:58:29 PM Report
Grump doesn't have a leg to stand on right now so to speak, but he'll be back.
flyhawk25 10/22/2013 2:32:07 PM Report
Ladies and gentlemen...hope that gets over the 'condescending' issue and back to the issue at hand.
I think we do have some common ground here re. the Senate.I'm all for electing them on a regular basis and thus avoiding them deflecting their blame for messing up.I agree that Harper should have taken names and kicked ass.
My problem is with a lack of transparency, accountability and keeping election promises.
Consider how Obama is handling the heath care roll out mess.
Press conference and said that he is upset and will take steps to make it improve.He knows he's wearing it and knows his legacy is under the spotlight.
Now Sebelius is miraculously able to make a public appearance and face tough questions. I can only imagine the private conversations he's having.The guy had the Rahminator as his muscle guy for years for a reason.
So you see we agree on a few things.
learningaswego 10/22/2013 2:52:50 PM Report
In today's news:
Federal deficit comes in at $7 Billion LESS than projected - a.k.a. for our lefty friends, that means BETTER, much BETTER than expected.
Yes, $7 BILLION $7,000,000,000 do you have any idea on how much money that saves taxpayers - in just interest alone? Of course not; even if you did, you wouldn't care, because it's GOOD NEWS on what the conservative government is doing.
Will this very, very good news be a big item on the CTV and CBC talking heads tonight? Hardly. Might get in the way of their daily parade of anti-Harper "strategists" and opposition party mouth pieces, brought on daily to bash anything and everything Harper does.
Instead - they'll focus on 3 senators who allegedly played fast and loose with their expense rules; and who, by the way, have agreed to pay back anything found to be inappropriate.
cathyh 10/22/2013 3:27:44 PM Report
But "right wing" the Senate does check expenses and approves them. Do we need someone to oversee the entity that approves them? I mean, come on. The PM is on very shaky ground and he knows it just might collapse.
flyhawk25 10/22/2013 3:44:50 PM Report
If I 'allegedly' broke the rules I'd be damn reluctant to pay back the 'alleged money'. Those three must just be super patriots.
Or the lefty media is on a witch hunt.
Or you'll buy just about anything Harper is selling.
No wonder he got elected.
steelworker 10/22/2013 4:08:28 PM Report
Where's Mac Harb hiding. Must be back under his rock (with his pension intact).
Mark Brown 10/22/2013 4:13:59 PM Report
I am against electing Senators because they would become exactly like our elected MPs... say anything, and do anything, for votes to get re-elected.
Why would I want two comedy clubs???
I am in favour, however, of giving each Prime Minister a number of appointments proportional to time they spend in office, say 1 appointment for each full year they are Prime Minister, at THE END of each Session of Parliament up until the time that they retire or get booted out of the Prime Minister's Office, with the new appointments replacing the oldest Senate appointments... first in first out.
For example, Harper would have been given 2 Senate appointments at the end of the 2006-2008 session of Parliament, and then another 3 appointments after the end of the 2008-2011 session, and so on until he retires as PM or is defeated at the polls, and his appointments would replace the longest standing Senators.
That would keep the unelected Senate as a place where Senators don't have to worry about doing the unpopular right thing, and it would avoid any one Prime Minister stacking the Senate with their appointments simply because there are a bunch of vacancies, and it would make the Senate a place that has a historical representation of what the people voted for.
What do you VRommers think about that idea for Senate appointments?
Sincerely and Respectfully,
mallet 10/22/2013 4:48:50 PM Report
I can see where you are coming from regarding electing senators, however the present system does not work either as seem by the Duffy/Wallin/Brazeau/Harb situation. I would say do away with it, by then you have no checks or balances from whomever is in the PM's seat. They cannot stop a bill being passed into law but can send it back with amendments that could show where the original was unsuitable. I will be honest and say , I do not know what is best. I can only say there should be a set remuneration, set expenses, say $2000.oo per month and no more, you want to do more then use the money you are being paid, if you don't want the job on those conditions then we can always find someone who will..
gcubed 10/22/2013 6:04:53 PM Report
I think that the present system of appointing a senate is undesirable to most with the possible exception of Quebec. Therefore, the only way I see of eliminating the wrangling that would take place in developing an elected Senate, would be to first have a referendum asking the electorate to answer a straight question such as: "Are you in favour of abolishing the Canadian Senate?" I predict that the overwhelming response would be "Yes!" Perhaps the citizens of Quebec would be opposed, but if the total vote proved to be in excess of let's say 75%, then we might have grounds to reconstruct a new level of 'sober second thought,' if it was considered necessary. The main thing though is to get rid of the one we have now and then propose one that would be sensibly viable.
right wing 10/22/2013 6:07:32 PM Report
Now you see how the left and the right see things different.
Obama is seen by the left to be taking responsibility for the complete mess of Obamacare simply because Obama stated publicly that "no one is "madder" than he is. (lot of truth actually in that "madder" word)
No statement such as "my fault for rushing it", "the buck stops here" or maybe the Republicans had something there about delaying it...just that he is "madder".
Imagine if Stephen Harper said he was "madder" than anybody else for the senate scandal...the lefties would immediately give him the same pass, right!
In a pigs eye.
Obamacare was touted as a system that was to be as easy as signing up for "travelocity", yet millions are already frustrated and angry.
...but that's O.K. cause nobody is "madder" than Obama.
right wing 10/22/2013 6:11:39 PM Report
The only problem I see with an open statement like that is why some voters might be in favor of abolishing it.
Would the majority simply agree due to what they headline read in the media or are they really informed as to what the senate does.
In other words would most be making a decision based on education or emotion.
flyhawk25 10/22/2013 6:16:50 PM Report
I'm a big believer in having people in power who are elected not appointed. Currently in Canada it is easier to get in the Senate than it is to be appointed to the US Supreme Court.
While I realize the two countries are different - a republic and a parliament - it might be time to create a hybrid of both.
In the senate allot a set number of seats to each province and territory not based on size or population.For the sake of discussion say four or five each. Codify a process where they face re-election every five years no matter who is in power.
Then have an election for the parliament on set terms. Run that half way through the senate term to force the electorate to pay attention to how they're governed and make the politicians more accountable.
I'm just throwing an idea out for thought and discussion but it might be time for us to reconsider how we do things.
right wing 10/22/2013 6:29:18 PM Report
Some good thoughts.
The problem I see there is it is hard enough to increase voter turn out on high profile elections...imagine the turn out for a senate election in Canada.
That is one reason I can understand why they are appointed seats.
gcubed 10/22/2013 6:31:00 PM Report
I find it difficult to grasp the concept of all provinces being equal in the manner that the U.S.A. Senate is distributed. However, I think there should be a limit. If the province or territory is lacking in population, then perhaps one senator be permitted to represent that setting. On the other hand, I do not think that any area, whether it be a province or territory should have more than let's say five representatives. Therefore, the new Senate would never be more than 65 members. That, to me, would be a large enough body to do the job.
right wing 10/22/2013 6:35:31 PM Report
The other issue is we have this three party system, Conservative, Liberals, NDP...and O.K. I'll include it...four, the Bloc.
It would be so much easier if we had a main two party system.
This way there would not be vote splitting which has been a monkey wrench, IMO, in our way of electing government.
redranger 10/22/2013 6:45:52 PM Report
I don't think that Separate School Boards "hired" those priests.
steelworker 10/22/2013 6:52:43 PM Report
Nice to hear (but not see) Duffy and Brazeau squeal like the pigs they are after finding out they may get kicked away from the taxpayers' trough. The Duffster played the "I'm old and sick" card and Brazeau played the "I'm so stupid it's unbelievable" card. I can't wait to see what Weasely Wallin pulls out of her deck. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
BIG BROTHER 10/22/2013 6:53:22 PM Report
Look all you right wing cement heads, it isn't the press nor is it even me, fly or one of us other left dippers who have put a motion on the floor of the house, to have the 3 musketeers suspended, without pay. It is a government house, crawling with their own ilk, mostly cons.
The fact that we are relishing in the possibility is quite natural. And Harper's involvement is becoming more and more apparent. That would be the result of the RCMP investigation, Duffster's own lawyer's and Harper himself.
Now because he ran off and signed an as yet unknown FTA doesn't eliminate the scandal going on at home. His involvement is apparently important enough for the RCMP to do their due diligence. If he had taken time to answer some of the press' questions, not prorogued parliament and generally, just faced the people with some straight answers, then maybe he may get some slack. Not dealing with the Senate scandal leaves the whole thing open for speculation, some of which seems to be coming true, It seems the only thing he knows what to do with 'slack' is put it around his own neck. Problem is, as Canadian's, he drags us all into his mess.
statusquo 10/22/2013 7:14:19 PM Report
This issue is not about who was pigging at the trough but about integrity and trust.
It is becoming increasingly obvious that the Harper Government is not as squeaky clean as the 40% or so Canadians who actually voted for those miscreants , like to believe.
This is a Government that does not like transparency..i.e, the muzzling of scientists , the secrecy of the highly hailed "European deal", a deal that is going to slaughter Canadian producers unless they are in the natural resources business, as on technology Canada cannot even dream of competing with Europe.
The current Government has overstayed it's welcome. It must go!
Unfortunately we will have to deal for decades to come with the damage the Harper government has been allowed to perpetrate .
flyhawk25 10/22/2013 7:33:29 PM Report
BB and SQ...finally.
Glad to see you check in.It's been lonely in here trying inject some balance in the endless Hymn of Praise for Harper.
It does serve to show how guys like him get elected over and over.
In fairness it's not just this PM. We re-elected Trudeau I and gave Harris two terms.
'Underwear and politicians should be changed frequently' is apt.
We are quite willing to admit that marriages don't work, change partners and go on. So it should come as no surprise that we keep making political mistakes based on emotion rather than reason.
ROLAND_ROLLY 10/22/2013 7:34:09 PM Report
I hope Grump is okay..... BTW... Hello Skipper !
right wing 10/22/2013 7:37:31 PM Report
Cement heads...again another reason for the quote "pot calling the kettle".
Pink Peony 10/22/2013 7:54:57 PM Report
Roland, I hope so too.
Resident 10/22/2013 10:00:37 PM Report
learningaswego 10/22/2013 10:08:33 PM Report
Required reading for all lefties and so called "journalists" should be today's article in Financial Post "What War on Science" by Philip Cross. A voice of reason and sanity in a sphere of lies and innuendo.
statusquo 10/22/2013 10:36:45 PM Report
I read it and it is vague. It's like deciphering a horoscope. An endevour deemed to fail.
The fact of the matter is that the Harper government is afraid of facts !
Harper has a huge ego ! Steven Harper is hugely successful in implementing his idea of Canada.
I don't like it one bit and it has changed the essence of Canada.
The current senate affair illustrates the arrogance of the state of our current leadership.
Conservatism is an illness of the ill informed! It's an illusion spawned by privilege and/or ignorance.
It's a facile world view , pedantic , puerile and an affront to reasoned discourse.
I feel dirty even responding to your post.
Hunter101 10/23/2013 12:19:51 AM Report
And Liberalism is a gross idea that has lazy idiots who don't want to work who feel entitled and want their cut (welfare check, ODSB, Native, etc.).
flyhawk25 10/23/2013 12:28:49 AM Report
And you have just proven SQ's point - 'iii informed...ignorant'. My daughter suffers from mental illness, is living independently and saving taxpayers the costs of hospitalization.
Go back under your rock you ignorant bigot.
Oldie Goldie 10/23/2013 8:29:11 AM Report
I believe that the Computer Program that they are using to sign up members to the new U.S.A. Health Care came from Canada. If it is, then shame on us for the delays.