Grump 10/13/2013 9:12:46 AM Report
Good morning everyone, time to rise and shine. Skipper back in town a few short days and right back to being bad with Status. Probably a sure way to get sent home quickly. lol. Status not politically correct but dead on re Islam. Dave e-mail me about the tall one too. Have a great day all.
flyhawk25 10/13/2013 10:10:11 AM Report
Well another day and another power outage. This one was 'only' about 25 minutes and I managed to get a half cup of coffee.
I wonder what is was this time?
Birds? Beavers? Accident?
This is getting tiresome and the PUC's credibility is going in the toilet.
Of course it wouldn't be so bad if our rates weren't increasing and the new building shining in the fall sun as we ratepayers just grit it out.
Wisenheimer 10/13/2013 10:39:21 AM Report
Not only that mister Fly .. On May 1st ..just before the Summer warmth our PUC jacked up the rates. Very soon the fruits of their labor will become apparent on the monthly bill.
Retreaded 10/13/2013 10:50:12 AM Report
Lets all email our council members and let them know we do not buy "birds in the wires" as a reason for power failures. As ward reps they should be bringing this up at council and expect HONEST answers from the PUC. Two days in a row at roughly the same time. I didn't know birds had a fly schedule.
Just Curious 10/13/2013 10:51:12 AM Report
I'm in the Chambers-Kerr area and it was just a blink here,enough to turn off the Nuker time..:)
flyhawk25 10/13/2013 11:26:37 AM Report
The frustrating thing is that as a consumer what recourse do we have? It isn't as if we have any recourse if we are unhappy with the service and rates.
The PUC has a monopoly on that.After a while this 'whoops, sorry about that' wears thin.
It is supposed to be a 'public' service.How many times do our lives have to be interrupted before someone in charge gets canned?
What are our choices?
And it certainly - as much as the new facility might have been necessary - is lousy optics.Even if they repair things at warp speed what can we expect in the future?
Jimssm 10/13/2013 1:06:46 PM Report
I agree in part with your comments on Islam, although I would have used 'radical Islam' in most of your examples.
My dispute with Wisen is that he brought Islam into the Halloween debate when in fact they weren't involved with the schools that decided to end Halloween. He was only trying to put his own bigotted views forward.
As far as Malala Yousafzai is concerned, would you deny her a Canadian citizenship based on your 10% rule ? She is still Muslim, and proud of it.
Grump 10/13/2013 1:37:06 PM Report
Jimssm ,no not all Moslems should be kept out but how do you separate the good people from the radical nut cases? Until the decent Moslems start reporting the radicals we are not safe in our society. Any religion that condones killing non believers and can turn their followers into killing machines does not belong in the west or any Christian Country. Status is also correct when their numbers get up they first drain the Country through welfare and eventually take them over. I believe we should only be accepting refugees who will eventually fit in here not be hell bent on making here the same kind of hell hole they came from.
Grump 10/13/2013 1:40:11 PM Report
Jimssm I forgot to tell you that listening to Wisen is an exercise in abuse.
Just Curious 10/13/2013 1:44:19 PM Report
irish fey,where are you??? Want to clarify what I said on the other column...:)
Retreaded 10/13/2013 1:53:19 PM Report
For the second day a row the PUC claims a bird knocked out the power this morning. Was it the same bird? Hopefully the PUC can somehow retrain that bird to avoid wires.
irishfey 10/13/2013 2:05:26 PM Report
Just Curious.. Smart a** ,lol.. no, im not getting into that today,, Jissy is waiting for me to screw up,lol.. I do agree with Grump though,, that"s the point i was trying to make yesterday but had to rush off to the party... GRUMP..you spelt"" MUSLIMS' wrong!! Watch out.. they might think that we are related,lol... Have a great day folks..
irishfey 10/13/2013 2:18:42 PM Report
Grump>> Amen to your post... i'm going to give an example,, kind of silly.. but here goes...now, say an African person comes to Canada, and they practice Voodoo [ and i say, African, just because that"s what they are in the movies,lol ],, anyway, they come here and want to pratcice their religion, and they use a chickens blood in their rituals,so hence, thinking that the chickens are , shall we say .. special.. they want to stop the farmers from killing them to eat. So they accuse the farmers of "" offending"" them.... am i getting my point across??? Now you all have a great day, and i might be back on later, but going to stuff a bird right now ,lol
mallet 10/13/2013 2:28:40 PM Report
You mean KFC would go out of business???
Jimssm 10/13/2013 2:37:04 PM Report
How do you tell the good Muslims from the radical nut cases ?
First thing....take the word 'muslim' out of their description and treat them just like everyone else. new immigrant commits a crime ?...bye bye..
The West (USA) interferes in all aspects of life over there and then wonders why they are not appreciated and adored by the population. Get your nose out of their business and you will see the wind go outcomes of the terrorist sails within a year.
A couple points I'd argue with you...
The West being Christian....a few million Jews might argue that point... in reality, Islam is closer to Christianity than Judaism.
Immigrants draining a country through welfare....maybe that could happen elsewhere but not under Canadian immigration rules.
statusquo 10/13/2013 2:37:57 PM Report
"As far as Malala Yousafzai is concerned, would you deny her a Canadian citizenship based on your 10% rule ? She is still Muslim, and proud of it."
That is a loaded question. This girl is very articulate, intelligent and
courageous. But as you say, she is still a Muslim and proud of it and therefore, yes, if it was up to me I would not grant her citizenship, as much as it pains me to say it.
People like her need protection but must remain in their country to somehow change it from within.
Islam is by scripture and ultimate goal rigid and immovable.
They way you dress, the way you eat, the way you cleanse yourself is dictated in the various books of the Quran.
Muslims take this very seriously and there is no wiggle room.
In Muslim countries their religion and the law of the land are indistinguishable. They do not understand the need for a total and absolute separation of Church and State.
On a person to person level, sure, there are Muslims who do integrate and become part of society but I would think that that is rare and the core tenants of their belief system remain intact.
I believe that we in the West are like the proverbial frog that gets put in a kettle of cold water, and slowly but surely the temperature is turned up to the point that the frog can no longer jump out of it.
The occasional "liberated" Muslim i.e Mayor Naheed Nenshi, of Calgary are the exceptions that prove the rule. Aberrations.
The friction between the West and the Middle East and of course, Israel, shows that there will never be a solution. The differences are far too entrenched.
Of course above differences cannot solely be attributed to different belief systems as other factors such as colonialism, and the plundering of the Region by the West is more responsible for the ongoing tensions that have kept said region under ongoing tension for 2000 years!
The peaceful co-existence between Muslims, Christians and Jews is a non achievable pipe dream as if you believe in one then automatically you must discard the other one. There just isn't any other way!
We in the West have had the luxury to build upon democratic values and have learned, more or less, to live in a secular, humanistic society and have overcome, to a certain degree this rigid adherence to false dogmas passed on by delusional religious leaders, who's main goal was dominance and power.
I was born into a fairly "lose" catholic family. My dad told me that he didn't have the time to think about God in depth and it was just easier for him to pretend to believe in something rather then agonize over a "Sky-Daddie" that watches over us.
That laissaiz faire attitude has made me the way I am. I couldn't care less what skin colour you are, what food you eat, how you dress, your sexual orientation or "orientations", as I've come to realise that we are all human and must learn to co-exist on a day to day level without the overshadowing burden of a God or Gods who's existence is less than tangible.
The inherent danger of allowing unregulated immigration from Muslim countries can not be taken lightly. We are importing a Medieval mindset that will sooner or later bite us in the ass.
Wisenheimer 10/13/2013 2:53:48 PM Report
Grump , Jimssm I didn't even pull your chains today. You must miss me!
And Jimbo, the story was in one of the national newspapers. You might want to pick one up occasionally. You know, like finding out what's in the "Values Charter".
Grump is a lost cause, who always shows up to battle with a peashooter.
Gotta go for Turkey .. hopefully tastier than dealing with you two birds.
statusquo 10/13/2013 3:16:36 PM Report
And one more thing Jim,
Not a single, not one established news outlet has ever shown what the Danish cartoon of the prophet Muhammad looked like!
If we bow to that then we're already dead!
Just Curious 10/13/2013 3:33:37 PM Report
Stats,personally I think we are already too late... I agree with you totally..
and irish,what I wanted to say about the death on a holiday thing was that my 2nd wife died on Valentines day,,sorta takes the fun out of the day now and has for years...The family of the one killed last night will never view thanksgiving in the same way ever again....
Wisenheimer 10/13/2013 5:09:44 PM Report
Actually Grump your post of 2:18 was on the mark and I must commend you for a thoughtful dissertation. Immigrants to Canada are more than welcome. Just don't bring your blood feuds and nutty religious beliefs along for the ride.
Spellchecker 10/13/2013 5:41:20 PM Report
The 2:18 post was by irishfey.
flyhawk25 10/13/2013 6:17:52 PM Report
SQ...it has taken me some time to think over what you wrote about Muslims coming to Canada. Especially in light of Malala.
So I reversed it and thought about my trying to get into another country.
Here's what I considered if I told the authorities the complete truth.
'I was baptized Catholic but I don't go to church.'
'Probably more than I need but my second undergraduate degree is in theology.'
'So...you are saying that you are a Catholic with a background in religious studies?'
'No. I'm saying that if anything I am a recovering Catholic who is spiritual with an education.'
'Well we have no guarantee that you won't bring your Catholic religion into our country? Sorry but we don't need your kind in our country.'
So my friend that is why I think that we must think carefully about blanket statements about people based on race, creed or color.
Jimssm 10/13/2013 7:01:52 PM Report
Would those same news outlets show an equivalent cartoon of Jesus Christ ??
....I think not....
statusquo 10/13/2013 7:12:11 PM Report
You know better than that and you're skirting the issue...with all due respect!
The consequences would be quite different.
Grump 10/13/2013 7:20:24 PM Report
Irish Fey The English Language newspaper in Saudi spelled it Moslems and so shall I until I die. Jimssm I fail to see how Moslems and Christians are anything alike. Islam believes in the Old Testament but not the new. Christianity believe in the new. Both the Jews and the Moslems believe in only the Old Testament which makes them more alike than us.
statusquo 10/13/2013 7:20:29 PM Report
I never base my judgement on colour or race. Creed on the other hand is on my list of priorities. Fascism was a creed!
Think long and hard about it.
irishfey 10/13/2013 7:33:50 PM Report
Juat Curious>> So very sorry to hear about your wife [ 2nd... just in case your married again ] I guess that would take the joy out of that day.. or any other... Wow .. just so many posts, i can"t [ don"t need to ] say anything more. I stated my views,thank you SpellChecker,, and Wise and all. I don"t mean to come across as a racist as i"m not one. Really wish there was peace in the world, but know that will not be... radical Islam is here to stay! Well, this old bird is tired and going off... but i really want to wish you all [ red and yellow, black and white, we are precious in His sight ] A very Happy Thanksgiving! Let us be thankful for where we live, what we have, and those we love.... And for those who don"t have a turkey... yes.. K.F.C still have chicken ,lol... God bless xo
Just Curious 10/13/2013 7:53:19 PM Report
irish,got married 4 times.. Like the post on Facebook,there is no cure for stupity......:)
skipper dave 10/13/2013 8:59:39 PM Report
Good eve sweet soo!
welcome to all immigrants who wish to reside in my house. Understand you have limited rights as a recent immigrant, they must be earned much like the privelidge of driving. Non compliance forfeits the right to be here. I and my fellow canadians reserve the right to define the rules of living under our roof. We will tell you when you have earned full rights and privelidges for living here and will promise to protect your rights , when you have earned that privelidge.
Jimssm 10/13/2013 9:39:15 PM Report
I will give you two examples why I believe Islam is closer to Christianity than Judaism is.
Islam believes in Jesus Christ, just not that he can be the Son of God because to them God is indivisible. Judaism does not acknowledge Jesus in any manner.
Islam believes that Mary was the mother of Jesus, but she was not a virgin but was chosen by God to be the mother of a great prophet. The 19th chapter of the Quran is dedicated to Mary, the mother of Jesus. Judaism does not recognize Mary.
irishfey 10/13/2013 9:42:40 PM Report
Just came on for a quick see.. this is just as addictive as the Grandkids fb. ,lol... J.C>> lol.. no, not stupid dear,just keep on trying [ unless the 4th. one took ].. someone out there for everyone... Me.. tis me 2nd... and .. billy be damned if i"ll do it again! lol.. Himself and myself say that there is no one out there that wants us, so we may as well stay together ,lol.... Skipper Dave>> well said, now i know why you were missed..... And a good night to ye all...
irishfey 10/13/2013 9:57:27 PM Report
Jissy.. stuff it!! Think you have been listening to much to Pastor Rick Warren who thinks that the new religion will be a mix of Christians and Islam = Chrislam [ yea, i probably spelt that wrong ].. It will never fly!!... Christians are more in line with the Jews [ or , us them ] They want peace and so do we!! At least the Jewish folk arn"t wanting to behead meself for not turning to their religion!!... Sooo 'huff and puff' all you want.. I"m going to the scratcher and read a wee bit from the Book that the Jews gave us through God... i do have the Qur"an also , but just used it to see what they were all about..... night all..
Jimssm 10/13/2013 9:58:20 PM Report
We are on a very slippery slope if we start to ban everyone of a certain religion from immigrating to our country. Just exactly where do you draw the line ? No muslims or just no muslims who dress like muslims ?
How about Sikhs ?... remember them? They were the flavour of the month for racial slurs before the Taliban came along. Remember turbans in the RCMP ?
Remember the Air India bombing ? No Muslims involved.
How about Tutsi and Hutu ? One of my boys is a Hutu. His people are responsible for the genocide in Rwanda. He's a Baptist but that didn't stop his people from killing many, many thousands. Does he not deserve to be Canadian ????
If you think he does.... then why not peaceful Muslims ?
You cannot paint all with the same brush.
If they are willing to state the following to gain citizenship...
"I swear (or affirm) that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, Queen of Canada, Her Heirs and Successors, and that I will faithfully observe the laws of Canada and fulfil my duties as a Canadian citizen"
irishfey 10/13/2013 10:00:00 PM Report
Should have stuffed you, instead of me bird,,lol jk.... noooooo. offence ,lol
irishfey 10/13/2013 10:03:28 PM Report
And.. quit bringing your boys into this.. he is a child and did nothing wrong and i"m sure you will raise him well...
irishfey 10/13/2013 10:07:02 PM Report
Jisssy.. your missing the point, and the point is as you just said... PEACEFULL.. people are welome... Saints alive.. i"m off...
Wisenheimer 10/13/2013 10:19:44 PM Report
"But I heard him exclaim as he drove out of sight. Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night".
Jimssm 10/14/2013 5:11:00 AM Report
I am not 'bringing my boy into this'
Some (on this forum) are saying to ban all Muslims based on the despicable actions of some extreme radicals.
I was addressing that.
Should we have banned all the Irish from immigrating because of 'Na Trioblóidí' and the IRA ?