Mark Brown 9/22/2013 3:42:25 AM Report
Good morning all,
If you know someone who is unable to financially provide the "necessities of life" for themselves or their family because of the flooding, please pass along the following information, and have them contact their City Councillor at:
This Disaster Relief information was provided by Michael Mantha MPP at yesterday's Ratepayers Regional Meeting, and is being requested of the Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing by OUR CITY COUNCIL at tomorrow's City Council Meeting under Agenda Item 6.1(a)
6. PROVINCIAL FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE–PRIVATE DAMAGE COMPONENT
In the event of a natural disaster, individuals are expected to bear the initial responsibility for their losses. If the losses are so extensive that individuals cannot cope on their own, the municipality and the community at large are expected to provide support.
The private component of ODRAP is intended to provide the “necessities of life” to help those impacted by a natural disaster get back on their feet, when it is beyond the capacity of the municipality or community to assist.
Requiring a local Disaster Relief Committee
When the Minister declares a disaster area which includes private damages, the municipality is required to establish a disaster relief committee to implement the program locally. All funds raised for victims of the disaster event are channeled to the disaster relief committee. The province may match funds up to a 2 to 1 ratio to settle the claims, up to 90 per cent of the estimated eligible amount.
The Minister may alter funding arrangements depending on the magnitude and/or frequency of disaster(s), as well as the geographic location of the impacted municipality and/or unorganized area.
Submitting a municipal disaster information report
In addition to the municipal council resolution, the affected municipality must submit a municipal disaster information report (see Appendix B) containing an estimate of private damage losses within 14 working days from the onset of the disaster. The municipal disaster information report assists the Minister to determine the appropriateness of ODRAP, as it describes the impact of the event including:
•The magnitude of estimated private damage suffered by individuals/families, farms, small businesses and non-profit organizations;
•Number of damaged properties with insurance coverage;
•Preliminary cost estimate to restore, replace or repair essential property and contents to pre-disaster condition. This information can be gathered from those affected through a municipal survey or a registration process;
•Newspaper clippings, photographs and other documentary evidence where available;
•Other information council believes is pertinent (e.g., Conservation Authority reports, Environment Canada reports, etc.).
Advance assistance may be considered, so that cleanup and repairs to private property can get underway for safety and access purposes. Additional updates within and after the 14 working day period can be submitted to the regional Municipal Services Office as private damage assessments are refined.
Examples of ELIGIBLE [emphasis mine] private losses and costs under ODRAP:
•Restoration, repair or replacement to pre-disaster condition of a principal, year-round residence, farm buildings and principal business enterprise building;
•Essential furnishing of a private residence, including refrigerator, freezer, furnace, stove, clothes washer and dryer;
•Tools or other items essential to the claimant’s livelihood, including farm machinery and equipment;
•For farms, replacement cost only of orchard trees;
•For business enterprises, replacement of inventory at cost;
•Restoration, repair or replacement to pre-disaster condition of churches, cemeteries, and other facilities of not-for-profit organizations, charities, service clubs;
•Emergency expenses (e. g. evacuation costs, food and shelter, generators, essential clothing);
Note: Some eligible items may only receive coverage to a maximum allowable amount.
Examples of INELIGIBLE [emphasis mine] private losses and costs under ODRAP:
•Losses covered by insurance;
•Secondary residences, e.g. cottages;
•Non-essential furniture, e.g. stereos, recreation room furniture;
•Landscaping, fencing, driveways and retaining walls;
•Recreational vehicles, e.g. boats, snowmobiles;
•Antiques and collections;
•Loss of revenue or wages;
•Losses recoverable by law.
Full Ontario Disaster Relief Assistance Program (ODRAP) information can be found at:
Thanks for helping your neighbour with this information in their time of need.
Grump 9/22/2013 7:20:09 AM Report
Good morning everyone, a bad habit getting up early, can't sleep in on weekends. lol. Pink Peony good to see you back, if you feel like a gab, get in touch and I'll take you for lunch. You have my cell no. or just e-mail. Hope all has been well. Maybe we can get Wicket to organize another summit this fall sometime as we have a few more nice folks coming out. I'm going to see if I can talk the boss into getting up now and making breakfast. I'm not really spoiled you know. Have a great day everyone.
Grace 9/22/2013 7:42:28 AM Report
Thanks again Mark for the valuable information.
From what I could see local media was absent yet again..seems to be a pattern of keep us treating us the masses like mushrooms by keeping us all in the dark and feeding us the B.S. they feel we need to see.
Without your efforts to shine the light by taking your time to keep people informed this information wouldn't be heard.
It was a good meeting wasn't it.
Lots of smart people getting together with a lot of common interest and now beginning to pool their resources.
I'm looking forward to see what their efforts will bring in the future.
Grump 9/22/2013 7:52:01 AM Report
Grace I have a news flash for you. The local media only cover meetings, events, etc. that are newsworthy or interesting to more than a few dozen readers who then will drop off to almost zip shortly after. Carry on.
Grace 9/22/2013 8:01:46 AM Report
Grump...yes I guess to you the liberally minded...new ideas and positive action would represent a danger to your mind set.
Keep not talking about it...you'd only be an impediment to good conversation anyway.
Spellchecker 9/22/2013 8:10:30 AM Report
Good morning folks.
Just Curious, we had a good old St. Joe Island Shindig yesterday. One of our very talented musicians was Rockin' Ronnie Hawdon, the fellow who entertained you at Ojibway Park. A great time was had by all, even those of us musically challenged.
flyhawk25 9/22/2013 8:21:56 AM Report
Happy first day of fall.
Since it's Sunday it seems like a good time to reflect on Pope Francis's latest interview.
The full content is available on many platforms but it seems the RC church is into a new phase. Just like the season.
Consequently many Recovering Catholics are beginning to get hopeful that the promise of Vatican II is renewed. And just in time to keep the church from becoming extinct.
The scandals world wide that have blighted the institution are just one indication of an organization that needed change.
Generations of baptized Catholics don't bother to actively participate in an institution run by too many very sad and twisted men.
I was fortunate to have had many Jesuit teachers in my post secondary education and this pope reflects my experiences with them. He gets it.
For too long the institutional church has been ruled by not very bright insecure dummies who got off on power, titles and self-fulfilling prophecies.
Keep an eye on Francis and how he leads all of his flock in a new and hopefully regenerating shift.
Wisenheimer 9/22/2013 8:36:27 AM Report
Fly, I believe they are beatifying one of those "dummies" you refer to.
Grump 9/22/2013 8:50:31 AM Report
Grace it's not the Liberal minds that upset me it's the no minds. If someone is interested in what is going on at one of these meetings, then fine, they are free and open to the public so get off your butt and go. That said to 99% of us they are hardly news or of very limited interest. If these huge disclosures titillate you in some fashion great but don't criticize others for finding these less interesting than watching paint dry. Further you criticize the press for not covering issues that are only that in a few minds and not that in most of ours. If for some reason I want to contribute or have an issue with one of these committees I will be there, I don't want to read a version of it by someone who I'm not sure would be impartial and then spit it back out as gospel. That said carry on as I know you will.
Mark Brown 9/22/2013 8:51:05 AM Report
Good morning again all,
It was good to see that Ward 5 Councillor Frank Fata stayed for the entire meeting of this first official meeting of the new combined regional collection of ratepayers and citizens.
And it was very nice to see that Algoma-Manitoulin NDP MPP Michael Mantha ( http://tinyurl.com/MikeMantha ) took time out of his busy schedule to make the introductory address saying that the best part of his job is talking with interested citizens, and that these ratepayers groups are doing a fantastic job of organizing interested citizens so that a productive discussion can take place, and that he wants to present any information that the new regional collection of ratepayers groups wants him to present down at Queens Park in Toronto.
It sounds like this new regional ratepayers group now has an ear and a voice down at Queens Park!
It was unfortunate to hear that Conservative MP Bryan Hayes had to cancel at the last minute, and that Ward 2 Councillor Susan Myers had to send her regrets for not being able to make the meeting, but at least they bothered to do the respectful thing and acknowledge the new regional ratepayers group's invitation.
At least some of our elected representatives have manners.
Don't worry about the local media though Grace. CTV was there, and I was there, and I will be reporting on the three or four things that I found very interesting that came out of that room of about 40 extremely interested taxpayers from across Northeastern Ontario.
As a teaser to my report on the meeting that will appear in this room tomorrow... Check out the GST Eh:
Mr. Poster 9/22/2013 8:56:14 AM Report
FLY...all we need now is to convince the pope to run for PM in out great country. I agree he is a breath of fresh air. What bothers me a lot is the fact that many people have come and gone and were ruled by the popes of the past. It just goes to show that...sure...it is great to have a pope...but..there is a lot to be said for talking directly to ones god and eliminating all the middle men.
Grump 9/22/2013 8:57:39 AM Report
Fly good morning, I personally am not R.C. but I too hold hope that the Church will clean up it's act and bring many faithful back to the Church. Wisen congratulation we can always count on you to make some inappropriate dumb assed comment. Someone will have to explain that in your case silence would be the better part of valour.
Spellchecker 9/22/2013 9:13:51 AM Report
This should get the lefties' blood boiling. Just the mention of this person's name sends them into a tizzy.
flyhawk25 9/22/2013 10:13:51 AM Report
Let's give him the attention he deserves. Zero. Unless you are a knee jerk redneck Bible thumper from Texas.
He is this year's Sarah Palin.
He and his buddies do not make my blood boil. He is a caricature.
flyhawk25 9/22/2013 10:42:22 AM Report
And now this just in Spelly.
Senator John McCain has dismissed Cruz as a nut case.
The Republicans themselves are divided. Get the bailing buckets out sailor.
Grace 9/22/2013 10:57:56 AM Report
Mark...a good point about Councillor Fata.
From what I understand Frank has gone to every meeting and function. A true gentleman.
Kudos as well to Bryan and Susan.
Wonder why Frank is the only one on council that shows up? Excluding Frank Manzo due to health issues.
Could it be that he actually cares and gets involved with constituents?
If so the the guy is one of a kind!
I guess when the election rolls around you may see many change their tune.
It will be interesting.
Mark Brown 9/22/2013 11:14:43 AM Report
Rush wasn't always a caricature of himself.
When I used to listen to him in the late 90's he was quite real... he spoke from the heart. His spoofs were hilarious, and he brought untold market share to Snapple because he encouraged his listeners, Republicans, moderates and a few Democrats, to actively and daily ask their local stores to start carrying Snapple.
Rush was a broadcasting pioneer!
Rush, almost singlehandedly, got enough moderates and Democrats to vote for Bush Jr. during the 2001 election so that it was close enough for the Republican Majority in the Supreme Court to GIVE Bush Jr. the "hanging chad" election victory over Al Gore.
I remember when I was on Rush's program just after the US captured Saddam Hussein, and the way that he and his staff took my moderate words and manipulated them for their political benefit... it wasn't a phone conversation that Rush and I had, it was Rush airing some of my words so that he could pretend he was talking to me and gain so that he could gain the Republican political advantage that his Republican Propaganda Show, NOT call in talk show, is all about.
When Rush had his ear problems, before he got his cochlear inplant, it was PAINFUL listening to the Rush Limbaugh program because it would take him about 3 seconds before he could respond to the caller... that seemed like an eternity!!!
But after he got his cochlear implant the ear problems disappeared and the show had it's snappy feel again... "Spatula City", "Keep Our Own Kids Safe" (KOOKS), Snapple,... good fun stuff together with the Republican Propaganda!
But after I had called in and "spoken" to Rush, I just couldn't take the constant, never-ending right wing propaganda any more, and started listening to the more balanced CBC Radio 1, and have been listening to CBC Radio 1 ever since.
irishfey 9/22/2013 11:19:18 AM Report
Top of the morning to you all, swapm people too, havn"t figgured that one out yet ,lol... does it mean that everyone that"s on this site are swamp people ?? If so. glad to be aboard,lol I see that the ball is rolling right along as usual and since the topic of Religion has already been addressed,lol I might have to agree with Wisen just a bit, but his/ hers choice of words could have been a little more sensitive to the R.C people out there. It is my belief [ and to all the Atheists out there, close off your throat so you don"t have to swallow this ] that when we accept Christ we are already Saints and Priests in The Lord, we don"t have to be dead to become one. I do study Bible Prophecy and find it quite interesting that Putin is going to visit the Iran President,, like when has that happened and why now? I think once, in our lifetime.? According to Bible Prophecy ,I think the stage is being set for the endtimes as all the Countries that are involved in protecting Syria are all the ones mentioned in Prophecy. Funny thing though,, the States and Canada are not really mentioned in all of this.. does that mean that we might not be around?? If anyone thinks that Syria is really going to hand over all of their chemical weapons well your just daft in the head. By now they are in Iran and russia thanks to Obamma's trying to suck up to these Countries that have no intention of ever having peace.. all they want is to see Israel off the map! Which brings me to the point why I'm writing this. Anyone ever heard of.. ""Nasa coming four blood moons??.."" Remember.. this comes from Nasa and not some Church or preacher... Goggle this and read it.. pretty interesting i think. In the Bible, anytime there was a "" blood moon" it always had an impact on Israel.. there was a "" blood moon"" in 1948 when Israel became a Nation. Now the coming 4 blood moons are quite special as they will occur in April of 2014 through to Oct. 2015 and there has never been these moons in this sequence [ 2 blood moons then an eclipse of the moon, then 2 more moons to follow] in over a thousand years. With whats going on in the Mid East, i just found this was quite an interesting topic... Remember.. this is Nasas prediction. The Bible does say that there will be signs and wonders from the Heavens. Also while i;m babbling,, to prove that the Bible is real, all you have to do is see that there are still Jewish people left in the world,, where did the rest of the people and tribes dissappear to, they are not here,, some are, like Russia [ Gog and Megog] and Iran[ Persia].. all endtime bad guys ,lol The Bible also says that Jerusalem will be a stumbling block for the whole world.. hello?? If the Jewish people didn"t exist, i would throw the Bible in the garbage.. but they do and they always will. They have been punished by God for their non belief in Christ but God will always protect them, especially now. Israel will get a butt kicking but in the end God will save them. Well, i guess i"ll sign off now and let the folks deem me as a nut or whatever,lol,, but .. To those that have an ear.. let him hear.. Oh btw, i found a good website that tells you all of whats going on in the world that the news dosn"t tell you,, and it"s not a Biblical site so don"t get your knikkers in a knot,lol.. It"s called.."" The Extention Protecol 2012 and Beyond.."" Have a great day folks. Opps.. just one more thing ,lol I have a R.C.friend that says that her Church believes that the Pope is actually Christ Himself.. ummm If he was,, i don"t think the world would be in such a mess.. just saying.. no offence intended...
Mark Brown 9/22/2013 11:32:22 AM Report
"...there has never been these moons in this sequence [ 2 blood moons then an eclipse of the moon, then 2 more moons to follow] in over a thousand years..."
Can you please remind us of the Biblical DEVASTATION that happened a thousand years ago then?
As for us Jews being punished by G-d for waiting for the FIRST COMING of The Christ, can you please tell me how we Jews have been punished?
Thanks for your anticipated response Irishfey.
Sincerely and Respectfully,
Mark Brown 9/22/2013 11:45:25 AM Report
It was nice meeting you again at the regional ratepayers meeting yesterday. I had no idea you are Grace.
What I have found, Grace, is that POLITICIANS get super citizen focused around election time, and TRUE CITIZEN REPRESENTATIVES stay citizen focused for their full term of office like Ward 5 Councillor Fata and Ward 6 Councillor Manzo have done.
I fully expect that the POLITICIANS will be out spending the New Hospital Fund surplus, the money Sault Citizens have been paying towards the new hospital for the past decade, and will continue to pay forever, so these POLITICIANS can BUY our votes in the next election, rather than doing their jobs and showing up at a few citizen meetings, or responding to our phone calls and emails, and actually trying to represent citizens by LISTENING to our concerns and factoring them into their decisions.
Sincerely and Respectfully,
Grump 9/22/2013 11:48:31 AM Report
Well I have finally finished my Office work and just read today's blog. That said I think I will go and give my head a shake to try to clear it. Things are supposed to ease up after a full moon but that doesn't seem to be the case today. Have a fun afternoon all as I'm going to go for a drive and catch some colour while the leaves last.
flyhawk25 9/22/2013 11:53:05 AM Report
The Nutty Index just went through the cyber-roof.
Wisenheimer 9/22/2013 11:58:00 AM Report
Just the facts "grumpiest". Hear you're attending sensitivity training, after your "coloured friends" gaffe. Perhaps it will allow you to make more intelligent comments on here as a bonus. It could happen!
Wisenheimer 9/22/2013 12:09:29 PM Report
Breaking News .. Approximately 40 members of Al-Shebaab are believed to have come from the Somalian enclaves in Minnesota.
How long will it be before some our newly immigrated brethren, pull off a suicide attack, at mall near you.
Grump, try wary wary hard not to comment until your course is complete.
Grump 9/22/2013 12:15:42 PM Report
Well Wisen in the politest terms I can express. Stuff you, you sad little moron. Take your sixth class behavior back to the swamp and practice on the critters. LMAO.
Wisenheimer 9/22/2013 12:17:06 PM Report
Grump, what are you up to, after the drive ? Where are you working tomorrow ?
Anybody coming over for supper?
Familiar with the term ego-maniac?
Wisenheimer 9/22/2013 12:18:53 PM Report
Didn't work !!
Wisenheimer 9/22/2013 12:20:02 PM Report
Kiss your mother with that mouth!
flyhawk25 9/22/2013 12:20:36 PM Report
And all of this adds to the discussion how?
Mark Brown 9/22/2013 12:23:45 PM Report
Dear NON(flyhawk25, Grump and right wing) readers and posters,
It is best just to ignore these insult-hurling posters, flyhawk25, Grump and right wing that is. Eventually they will realize that nobody cares about anything that comes out of their annoyingly self-aggrandizing brains, and they will simply go away.
Mr. Poster 9/22/2013 12:26:22 PM Report
FAT chance,,,they have shares.....lol
Zing 9/22/2013 12:27:45 PM Report
No 'respectfully' in that last post Mark?
Spellchecker 9/22/2013 12:30:26 PM Report
Flyhawk, it was Palin I was referring to. You obviously didn't check out the link. Pity, it was meant to be an educational experience for you lefties.
irishfey 9/22/2013 12:31:22 PM Report
Dear mr.Brown.. You reffered to my comment as "" us"' Jews, so maby you can tell me when your people have ever had PEACE!!! The Jewish people have been displaced all over the world for many , thousands of years, and then to fall into the hands of Hitler??? If you are Jewish, do you not know your own History? God called the Jews a "" stiffnecked "" people. I may have been wrong in saying they were punished for their non-belief in Christ and if that upset you,, i"m sorry. In the OLD Testiment, the Jews had it all given to them from God , but they still turned to idols to worship, that is why God displaced them. We have the Bible today, thanks to the Jewish Nation. Did you even to bother to look up The Four Blood Moons?? I suggest you do to answer your own questions as i cannot put all the info on here... You sounded angry, why? I for one bless Israel as God says.. "" I will bless those who bless you, and Curse those who curse you "" I do not intend to start a war over this, and if i"m deemed a nut.. so be it ,lol As with Grump.. i have things to do today.. so God bless you Sir and have a great day.. my post was in no way meant to harm or upset anyone.. but i will never turn my back on the Lord for anyone!
Spellchecker 9/22/2013 12:32:26 PM Report
Senator McCain is a closet lefty and his daughter is worse.
Mark Brown 9/22/2013 12:47:38 PM Report
You are correct in saying that G-d punished the Israelites for turning to idol worship at the foot of Mount Sinai when Moses was up getting the 10 Commandments. The Israelites were punished by G-d immediately after that by spending 40 years wandering through the desert before they reached the Promised Land.
Hitler was NOT a punishment by G-d.
Hitler was a raving lunatic that happened to be popular with the German people of the day and did shocking and murderous things to 13 million people, 6 million of whom were Jews.
No, Irishfey, I did not look up the Blood Moons because I assumed you would be able to describe, in a sentence or two, the BIBLICAL DEVASTATION that happened 1000 years ago when it 4 Blood Moons happened before... there was some BIBLICAL DEVASTATION as the Bible (new testament?) prophesizes. Wasn't there some devastation 1000 years ago Irishfey?
Sincerely and Respectfully,
Spellchecker 9/22/2013 12:49:40 PM Report
Please, irishfey. You are going to set off statusquo on an extensive anti-religious rant.
My understanding of prophecy does not coincidide with yours but I am happy to see your interest in it. Religion is one of my favourite subjects and really, I am looking forward to status' religious rant even though I chide him a bit about it.
Be prepared though, for some verbal abuse from the View Room atheists.
Spellchecker 9/22/2013 12:50:45 PM Report
Before shakey catches me, COINCIDE.
Mark Brown 9/22/2013 12:54:38 PM Report
Some times it's hard to be respectful in the face of anonymous posters hurling insults at people simply trying to express a sincere opinion.
Even though I was using the words that Grump, right wing, and especially flyhawk25 commonly use against posters whose interests aren't aligned with their interests, namely, "... just ignore them and they'll go away...", I felt that I was disrespectful to flyhawk25, Grump, and right wing for the contributions they do make to this forum.
Therefore, Zing, I could not, in good conscience, write 'Respectfully'.
Hope that helps Zing.
Sincerely and Respectfully,
debo 9/22/2013 1:03:22 PM Report
I don't think Fly missed the intended point of your 9:13 post Spellerman as he lumps the two "lumps" together in his post at 10:13.
While Palin did at one time rankle the "lefties", you so disdain, she is today nothing more than a political/comedic punch-line. And her endorsement of "Cruzes Vuzes" will gain him nothing among sentient Repubs and voters.
The Repubs (many more than McCain) are right to divorce themselves from the political path that "Cruzcontrol" will lead them down.
irishfey 9/22/2013 1:11:30 PM Report
Dear Spellchecker, thank you for your concern and your right, i will stop. Said all i wanted to anyway,, but on my last note.. Mr. Brown.. did i SAY that a Biblical Devastation happened 1000 years ago. or that it would happen again?? All i said that was when a blood moon arises it has an effect on Israel, and in 1948.. it was a GOOD effect, no? So with all due respect.. do your OWN homework, I did mine and thats all that matters to me... We can just wait and see what happens, ok? Have a great day folks.. swamp people too.lol
Mark Brown 9/22/2013 1:16:13 PM Report
As for my people having "Peace", up until about 10 years ago no Jew had ever murdered another Jew according to my mother (she can't talk any more so please don't ask me where she got her information from... I trust my mother). I'd say that's a pretty good record of "Peace".
Of course us Jews have always been nomadic foreigners in foreign lands because we have never had a home, at least not until 1948, but the 12 Tribes of Israel from the time of Abraham still have descendants of those 12 tribes living in every country around the world... as twelve nomadic tribes the world is our home too.
I am a Kohen (pronounced co-hane), which is a member of the priestly family of the Tribe of Levi, descended from Aaron, who has certain ritual privileges in the synagogue service.
I hope this helps.
Sincerely and Respectfully,
irishfey 9/22/2013 1:21:27 PM Report
Dear Mr. Brown... i was very happy to see that you noticed that you were disrespectfull to a few people on here. We all have our own "" sincere opinions"' and we feel the right to post them. I don"t see anyone disrespecting your post.. so , lesson learned.."" do unto others "" Have a nice day Sir
Mark Brown 9/22/2013 1:24:12 PM Report
No you did not say that something happened 1000 years ago, but what you did say is that BIBLICAL DEVASTATION is prophesized in the Bible (?New Testament?) that four blood moons are an indication of Biblical Devastation.
Four blood moons happened 1000 years ago, according to you Irishfey, so I just assumed the Biblical Prophecy was fulfilled 1000 years ago as well.
I'm not as interested in Blood Moons as I am interested in helping to make the Sault...
OPEN FOR CITIZENS!
I'll focus my research there my friend.
Sincerely and Respectfully,
irishfey 9/22/2013 1:46:11 PM Report
Dear Mr. Brown.. WOW.. to be a decendent of Aaron.. you must be proud!!I know i would be. Yes i feel that there is still something coming, but will leave it at that. In my first post.. should have shut my mouth ,lol I was just trying to express my care and love for Israel.. Now,, can there be PEACE between us ,lol.. I"m done on here for today.. God bless
mallet 9/22/2013 1:53:42 PM Report
As a student of modern history, I would have to disagree with your mother regarding one Jew murdering another. The Prime Minister of Israel, Mr Yitzak Rabin was assasinated (murdered) by another Jewish person, I think it was in 1995.
Mark Brown 9/22/2013 2:04:42 PM Report
Dear Irishfey and mallet,
There has always been Peace between us, Irishfey, just not agreement, and just for the record my friend, I am most proud to count myself as being one of the descendants of Adam and Eve.
Yes, mallet, that was the day, the day of Yitzhak Rabin's murder by another Jew, that I remember my mother saying to me that it was a very sad day because before that no Jew had ever murdered another Jew.
Thanks for providing me with that vividly sad memory mallet. I really do appreciate it very much.
Sincerely and Respectfully,
soowat 9/22/2013 2:16:41 PM Report
When you write that Rush Limbaugh spoke from the heart, I'm sure you would appreciate this assuredly heartfelt gem from the great "bombasticator"
. "Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"
~Rush Limbaugh, basically saying that all wanted criminals are black people on his radio show in the 1990s.
Mark Brown 9/22/2013 2:26:06 PM Report
No, I don't appreciate, and will not tolerate, RACIST statements from ANYONE like the one quoted by you, above, and which you attributed to Rush Limbaugh. Period. Full stop.
Upon reflection what would have been more accurate of me to say about the Rush Limbaugh program in the 90s was that it was far less 'Politically Correct' AND he took WAY MORE real sounding phone calls.
Now, I assume, the Rush Limbaugh program is just a Republican Propaganda Show that takes very few "phone calls".
Hope that helps soowat. Have a great day everyone!
Sincerely and Respectfully,
flyhawk25 9/22/2013 2:52:31 PM Report
Rush is a caricature created by him to sell products to a certain segment of society.
Simply stated he is a whore for ratings.As the country evolves that audience gets smaller, his market share decreases and as much as I hope that he ends up writing a blog on some hick site there are enough simplistic 'thinkers' who actually believe 100%% of the baloney he puts out.
He's in the same pile as televangelists and K-Tel hucksters.
mallet 9/22/2013 3:13:36 PM Report
On another point...
I guess Germany will no longer be called the "Fatherland" and will in future be know as the "Motherland" in Angies honour...
old-cat33 9/22/2013 3:27:49 PM Report
mallet: Just caught the tail end of the commercial on the Blue Nose the other day and it said that that ship was the fastest for twenty years. Now where did the race start from and where did it end? I thought that race was the America's Cup?
mallet 9/22/2013 3:32:47 PM Report
Old Cat 33..
You caught me there! I don't think the Blue Nose ever raced in the Americas cup. There was a race for Schooners off the East Coast, but for the life of me I cannot remember what it was.. I shall have to "google" that one...
mallet 9/22/2013 3:45:12 PM Report
Old Cat 33..
It was built for "The International Fisherman Trophy" which I do not think is raced for now.. Blue Nose won it up until the Second World War and then she was sold and ended up wrecked down in the Carribean. A replica was built in the Sixties and dismantled in 2010 and a new relica was built and is in service today.. These are "working" boats as opposed to the Yachts used to race in the Americas Cup, which are basically pleasure craft, although you do work bloody hard on them if you crew...
All Is Well 9/22/2013 3:45:53 PM Report
Now it is being reported that in Kenya, a usually busy mall frequented by Westerners, is under siege. Entering the second day of the siege, the death toll is 59 ,including four children, and 179 wounded. Eye witnesses say that around fifteen gunmen carrying AK-47s and wearing vests with hand grenades on them stormed into the mall. There is no place in the Muslim world that is, remotely safe, for anybody. Kill anybody, anywhere, any way, for any reason, real or imagined.
Grump 9/22/2013 3:59:37 PM Report
Dear Mark You appear a bit testy today. My opinion was expressed to you politely and it was simply "what was the point in recording non issues"? It is your privilege to record whatever you wish for whatever reason. That said it is also my privilege to believe it is a useless exercise, meant to massage your ego or gain some popularity with a group that I would certainly wonder about. Now rw and Fly and hopefully myself try to keep the conversation informative and pleasant. That said I know that none of us react well to dumb assed sniping, completely off topic. I tell you this to let you know any more posts like I read from you will result in far less polite responses. Have a great day.
Grump 9/22/2013 4:05:16 PM Report
It was not that long ago I was called a bigot and a racist for stating that Islam is the greatest threat the free world has ever seen. Can it be that a few of you are now getting a clearer picture? By the way Mark the Arabs were one of the Tribes of Israel.
mallet 9/22/2013 4:40:47 PM Report
Careful there old chum, you will be inviting the wrath of a fatwah on yourself if you keep that up. You know full well it is blasphamy to insult the Prophet in any way, shape or form. It will also of course label you as a bigotted racist of the worst kind. That I agree with you is beside the point, I do not wish to be included in the Fatwah or the racist bigotted group...
Grump 9/22/2013 4:51:35 PM Report
Mallet that's the problem, many know the truth but they have made it a tad difficult to criticize them.
Snobank 9/22/2013 5:27:03 PM Report
I`m moving Mr. Brown up on my positivity scale. I believe I mistook him for a publicity hound. He does seem to be trying to work for the public betterment.
But, I thought Cain`s murder of Abel was the first murder according to the old testament. I guess the question is whether they were Jewish or not.
Grace 9/22/2013 5:32:22 PM Report
Grump..."what was the point in recording non issues"?
How exactly do you distinguish the difference between an issue and a non issue if you never know what is going on?
For Want of a Nail
For want of a nail the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the message was lost.
For want of a message the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail
Grump 9/22/2013 5:32:31 PM Report
Snobank I would say you are correct as Mark did say he descended from Adam and Eve. Ergo They were Jews and thus the first murder.
Mark Brown 9/22/2013 5:53:24 PM Report
Thank you for acknowledging your initial impression of me might have been incorrect. I appreciate that very much. As for Cain and Abel I believe you are absolutely correct, and they were definitely Jewish so I guess my mother was wrong.
What a wonderful woman my mother is!
As your readers can probably tell, she instilled FAR too much confidence in me... she made me think I can do anything I set my mind to, and I actually believed her!?!
I am learning to be more like my mother every day... kind-hearted, hardworking, respectful and positive, AND she has a great smile and laugh! I love you mom, as wrong as your statements may have been, your message was always so positive!
Sincerely and Respectfully,
P.S. Thanks for your patience Grump. I appreciate that very much too.
Spellchecker 9/22/2013 6:15:52 PM Report
Snobank, Cain and Abel were definitely not Jews. The first Jews were offsprings of Jacob's son Judah. The first place they are mentioned in the Bible is in the book of Kings and the House of Judah is then at war with the House of Israel that consisted of the other tribes of Israel, all descended from the patriarch Jacob whose name was later changed to Israel.
The little nation now called Israel would be more appropriately named Judah because it consists of only one tribe of the descendents of Israel. The others are scattered throughout the world. Many of them are right here in Canada but they have lost their historical identity.
irishfey 9/22/2013 6:35:32 PM Report
Grump.. how was your drive today, pleasant i hope. I"m pretty sure that the Arab Nation came from Abraham and Hagars son Ishmael and the 12 tribes of Israel came from Jacob, Abrahams great Grandson and his wife Sarah. I do agree that it"s not right that we have to tippy-toe around the Muslims Prophet and that we could even be beheaded for a misuse of his name etc. I ask then why is it alright for people to take The Lords name in vain and not be charged for it?? Can you imagine how full the jails would be or if we beheaded anyone that did that? Christs name is used in vain everyday and hour, even when one should stub his toe. Why are these people not called bigots or racists?? We are in a Religious war, i knew that as soon as 9/11 hit. Funny how something that started thousands of years ago would surface now.. hmmmm...
irishfey 9/22/2013 6:41:12 PM Report
Spellchecker.. just saw your post now.. very well said, and true. Im going off now and leave the rest to you ,lol night all.
irishfey 9/22/2013 6:46:20 PM Report
Good Bible study today though, was it not ? ,lol... Mr. Brown... hugs to your Mom, she sounds like a great Lady...
irishfey 9/22/2013 6:48:33 PM Report
lol.. and Lady Grace.. good post...
Spellchecker 9/22/2013 6:53:36 PM Report
You also had a good point about the vanity in the use of Christ's name. Strange how many nominal Christians and atheists use His name regularly, of course in a detrimental way.
right wing 9/22/2013 7:34:21 PM Report
I was not even on here all day.
...but anyway, up your nose with a rubber hose ya big loud mouth blow hard.
There now you can say bad things about me.
Grump 9/22/2013 7:38:32 PM Report
Irishfey The drive was nice and the colour is a bit late but is coming along nicely. We are likely a week or more from being at its peak.. The boss and I have meetings in Sudbury two weeks from now so will likely get some nice colour on the way but not to rate with the highway north.
right wing 9/22/2013 7:39:19 PM Report
Question for you M.B., did you have one of those steel square Superman lunch boxes when you went to grade school...you did, didn't you.
statusquo 9/22/2013 8:10:23 PM Report
Back off, eh!
I had one of those! Still do.
statusquo 9/22/2013 8:22:57 PM Report
For want of a life, a day was lost...posting on sootoday.
Grace 9/22/2013 9:05:29 PM Report
Over and I'm out!
flyhawk25 9/22/2013 9:34:55 PM Report
SQ...but the again it might be part of the prescribed therapy.
Kind of like a vinyl fetish.
statusquo 9/22/2013 10:00:09 PM Report
Anything nowadays requires therapy...
Life sucks? Excessive masturbation..mental or otherwise? No problem.... It's in the APA manual.
The answer is "God"( note the explanation marks) or copious amounts of alcohol....I choose the latter.
But right now I am watching the "Emmys"...I highly recommend watching....
Jimssm 9/22/2013 10:17:30 PM Report
.... As far as an earlier post about Jews never killing Jews. This is a popular myth spun to show what a gentle people Israelites are.
Since the murder rate in Israel is over twice what it is in Canada.... it is hard to believe these murders are all perpetrated by non-Jews.
statusquo 9/22/2013 10:32:39 PM Report
Murder rates are determined by circumstance and prevailing culture and economic disparity. "Race" or religious affiliation has no bearing.
But I agree with you .
The ever surfacing mention of "The Jew" as if it were anything "special" is grinding my gears as it has a Biblical connotation.
The Biblical Scriptures are nothing more than political propaganda that gained salience due to the prevailing power structure of the time and somehow survived in propagating unmitigated crap!
It is a freak mistake that has gotten out of control.
statusquo 9/22/2013 11:04:52 PM Report
Today's posts have been hogged by upstanding "God" fearing folks. They have engaged in cyber mutual masturbation, waxing in the common belief that they are morally and ethically on the "right" path and somehow know more than the non believing "lost souls".
They made an immaginary connection with "God" due to prayer and/or meditation and believe that they are somehow more wise than the lost flock...
The condescending tone is deeply offensive to me.
Religious beliefs are in my humble opinion genetically pre-disposed and re-inforced by early childhood indoctrination. Christian, Hebrew, Muslim...makes no difference. All equally suspect and candidates for psychiatric evaluation.
Scientifically and historically all religions can be taken apart and dismissed in the blink of an eye.
The truth of the matter is that we cannot know our origins or our destiny.
In the mean time..my advice is to make an effort not to be an asshole towards your fellow human being...regardless of colour or creed .
Mark Brown 9/22/2013 11:16:18 PM Report
Thanks for the virtual mother-hugs Irishfey, my mother is the single greatest person that I have ever met. Without exception.
How could I ever say anything bad about a "Sweathog" Vinnie righta wingo? ( http://youtu.be/Pqr24Mfbw2g )
Now I know who you are statusquo... "For want of a life, a day was lost...posting on sootoday."... my wife!!!!
Thanks for the Biblical clarification about Cane and Abel not being Jews Spellchecker. The depth of biblical knowledge in here seems league!
No, right wing, I never, ever had a steel lunch box, ever, Superman or otherwise. I did, however, go home every day for lunch, except in high school, and, coincidentally, I did watch Superman during those lunch breaks with episode introductions by Commander Tom on Buffalo station Channel 7 that carried the evening new with Irv Weinstein where it seemed that there was always a "three alarm blaze" burning somewhere in Tonawanda.
Good night, and may G-d bless all of you special people.
Sincerely and Respectfully,
Mark Brown 9/22/2013 11:36:17 PM Report
Dear View Roomers,
A final thought worth repeating:
"The truth of the matter is that we [every single one of us] cannot know our origins or our destiny. In the mean time..my advice is to make an effort not to be an asshole towards your fellow human being...regardless of colour or creed." ~ statusquo
Yet, at the same time, I find it passing strange that my Presbyterian or Anglican grandmother on my mother's side
(I'm not sure what religion she espoused, but she was devout nonetheless), ALWAYS found great strength and clam during her 99 year and 10 month life in simply going about her business and trusting in the L-rd to take care of the things that were beyond her physical and mental capability to handle.
Good night all, and may G-d bless us, every one!
Sincerely and Respectfully,
Mark Brown 9/23/2013 12:11:43 AM Report
For those of you who are interested in getting a glimpse of who Irv Weinstein is, check out the following:
WKBW Channel 7 News Anchor Highlights:
Bringing things full circle, Eugene LEVI of SCTV performed News Anchor spoofs that were based on Irv Weinstein!