Grump 8/22/2013 7:03:11 AM Report
Good morning everyone. Sweet C the Trades have changed considerably even in the last 25 years and someone with a grade 10 education likely couldn't cut it now. Close to OK isn't good enough anymore. I have a son-in-law who had an interprovincial ticket and went back and took an honours degree in computer science just to keep up and ahead a bit. If you want a !00,000. grand a year plus job it's not going to happen anywhere without an education. Those not able or willing to work to get through High School wouldn't get through todays Trade Courses. Have a great day all.
theprotector 8/22/2013 7:43:44 AM Report
morning oldie! If you chose to beleive thats fine I never told you you couldnt. I have just as much right to not beleive as you do to beleive, so I really dont understand your point. If someone posts religous beliefs then I reserve the right to post anti-religious beliefs. Do I think people who beat the bible are weak minded and need a crutch to make it through life, yes I do, but that does not prevent you from beleiving nor am I proporting anything as fact about your god because your beleif and your god is based in faith, faith that there is a god, nothing factual, just your faith. Do I beleive that there was a jesus? Yes I do but that person was a cult leader, an ordinary man, nothing more competing with mohammand for the cultish desires.
As far as right wing...well his opinions are based on an over exposure to lead based solder fumes.
Mr. Poster 8/22/2013 7:59:53 AM Report
Pam Wallin owes 139 grand and has one month to pay it back. I wonder who will help her with this one. Quite the example she has set for young people. The message is..it is ok to steal and if you get caught all you have to say is oops and pay it back. Most Canadians will want her removed along with Duffy and any other scally wags they come across.
theprotector 8/22/2013 8:41:40 AM Report
Ah yes the great Canadian multi-teir justice system!
Oldie Goldie 8/22/2013 8:48:59 AM Report
The Protector---If what you say is your opinion--then say so.
You have never said that your postings are only your opinion.
Of course you are entitled to your opinion if you say that is what it is.
Oldie Goldie 8/22/2013 8:52:45 AM Report
Right Wing--Thank you for your comments yesterday about theprotector and his postings.
At least there is another poster who believes, like I do, that theprotector is a nut case.
right wing 8/22/2013 8:54:29 AM Report
....once again theprotector proves he knows no facts.
Solder used on potable water pipes is lead free.
Oldie Goldie 8/22/2013 8:57:21 AM Report
theprotector---Faith is the assurance of things hoped for and the evidence of things unseen.
Think on that one for a while.
right wing 8/22/2013 8:57:25 AM Report
Folks like theprotector that need to bash and ridicule the existence of a God rather than debate it are just frightened little imps.
theprotector 8/22/2013 9:17:17 AM Report
hahaha....there is no debate! You want to throw religion into the mix then suck it up and prepare for the fact that many people and a growing number of people simply do not beleive Look at the church memebership rapid decline. I dont care what you beleive, or where you are from, I dont care anything about you, if you dont want backlash for bible thumping then simply turn the crap off and keep your mouth shut, its that simple.
As far as faith goes, it is nothing more than a belief in something that does not exist but you wish it did with no proof - none.
Lead based solder was used for years on pipes for potable water right wing you should know that...its clear it was in your house growing up.
flyhawk25 8/22/2013 9:28:46 AM Report
The problem of debating the existence of God is the enormity of the concept.
Consequently we revert to things our religious belief systems taught us based on preliterate oral based tradition and myth.
Most folks can't get their heads around how there could be more than one planet with life systems like ours.
Consequently we fall back on a traditional male model and linear thinking.
When challenged we refer back to a faith based Christian model taught to tribal people, exploited by organized religions and far too limited.
Simply stated - God is too big and mutidimensional to be limited by our outdated suppositions.
Spellchecker 8/22/2013 9:40:46 AM Report
Aha, you folks have hit on one of my favourite subjects so I guess I can put in my two cents worth without too much consternation on the part of one of our more vocal atheists.
The fool has said in his heart there is no God.
And then to emphasize the point, the Guidebook for Humanity goes on to say
The fool has said in his heart there is no God.
And with that I must go now and tend to the Tomato Medley, soon to appear in the Village of Hilton Beach.
right wing 8/22/2013 9:43:08 AM Report
...again theprotector shows he knows no facts.
Lead free solder has been used in Ontario since the early 80's.
right wing 8/22/2013 9:47:26 AM Report
I stated debating the existence of a "God", an intelligent designer.
I never bring man made religion into this.
Have to go, wish I had more time as I can really have fun with this.
Especially toying with the weak minded that revert to using terms like "bible thumping".
Once question theprotector, so are you an evolutionist?
theprotector 8/22/2013 10:35:13 AM Report
duh....no kidding right wing, so how many houses were built and are still standing prior to 1980's without plumbing up grades? Are that new at what you do or just that poor at what you do? Bet you u are one of the H Bro's if so that would explain a ton
theprotector 8/22/2013 10:48:30 AM Report
I dont put myself into those categories right wing. Evolution and adaptation have been proven. And if you only hang your knowledge hat on darwin then you are far from the proof. Why do you feel the strong desire to put people into a category? Is this some type of OCD or a fetish? There is not one shred of evidence that there is a god, I do beleive there was a person name jesus as he is mentioned and talked about in the koran but a son of god LMAO! A person yes, a cult leader yes, a grifter probably, snake oil salesman hardly any doubt!
mallet 8/22/2013 10:55:55 AM Report
Grump and SweetC..
When the plant was going to amalgamated the trades, Millwright, pipefitter and welder into one trade group, they sent the guys to Sault college to upgrade then into a Maintenance Tech. Quite a few of the older guys had quite a hard time, apart from the fact they had not been in school for years, they had limited basic education as they had been taken on as labourers, had becomes trade helpers and after time had been made into millwrights without the formal training. This was one of those things I was talking about yesterday as ALL members of the representing unions had a vote as it meant opening the contract. The fact that it only concerned the trades was not taken into account, but I am sure if it had, the proposition would not have passed, for now pipefitters could be sent up to work on the cranes and the welders could be sent into some of the more greasy holes to do work. There were a few accidents when people who had no experience were sent to do jobs which were normally done by someone in another trade, one I remember involved a person getting badly hurt in one of the funaces, doing a job which in his own trade he would not have done. Of course this meant we all got a few more cents an hour and the plant did not have to hire anyone for a while in the trades..
Brianne 8/22/2013 11:25:01 AM Report
"Mr. Harper is not just letting Verizon Communications bid on the telecommunications spectrum that belongs to the citizens of Canada. He’s inviting them in on such cosseted terms that the stock of the big three telecommunications companies, Bell, Rogers and Telus, has already leaked away millions of dollars. And who owns those shares? Overwhelmingly, the value has been lost by Canadians, a significant portion of it in their pension plans."
What do you call a man who betrays the interests of his country for a foreign power?
The Americans call him a Benedict Arnold.
In Canada, we call him Prime Minister.
Stephen Harper plans to alienate a portion of the Canadian telecommunications spectrum for American occupation on preferential terms, without U.S. reciprocity.
bounder 8/22/2013 11:29:45 AM Report
I being one of those amalgamated trades, the welders stayed by themselves, pipefitter and millwright and crane repair went together , ironworkers and riggers the next group, electrical did what they usually did nothing.
On another note, when I went to weddings, old people would poke at me and say your next, so when I went to funerals I poked them back and said your next.LOL
theprotector 8/22/2013 11:35:57 AM Report
LOL Bounder....that is so funny!!
Grace 8/22/2013 11:40:12 AM Report
Brianne...just curious.. do you shop at Walmart?
Go across the river for gas?
Canadians are already selling their souls to out of country interests.
Why the big surprise?
flyhawk25 8/22/2013 11:58:08 AM Report
Lovely moment on the Toronto waterfront where a bronze statue of Jack Layton was unveiled riding on the back of a tandem bicycle.
Folks can get on the front for a picture because as the OFL rep said "Jack always had your back."
And that should drive the neo-cons nuts.
theprotector 8/22/2013 11:58:22 AM Report
we really dont have much that is canadian do we as far as products go
flyhawk25 8/22/2013 11:59:21 AM Report
Oops. Sorry about the space folks.
Grace 8/22/2013 12:10:07 PM Report
fly...it may surprise you but I had and still have a great respect for Jack.
Brianne 8/22/2013 12:25:53 PM Report
Grace, why the condoning ?
Doesn't matter what store we shop at most are US based anyway.
Gas ? No car. I walk or take the city bus. Takes me 1/2 hour to walk to work, try it sometime. Rainy days i take the bus.
When was the last time you shopped across the border ? I haven't been there in over 10 years, no need .
theprotector 8/22/2013 12:42:11 PM Report
prob. cant get accross
Brianne 8/22/2013 12:47:17 PM Report
I dunno who "prob" is, but that's too bad that he can't get "accross".
mallet 8/22/2013 1:25:33 PM Report
In the Tube mill the Pipefitters, welders and Millwrights, went together, there being no dedicated crane repair crew. The mechanics and machine shop people stayed as they were, and the Electricians they stood along, have to be careful what you say about the sparks though, Mike is the prez and a neighbour of mine, out here....
Grump 8/22/2013 2:02:07 PM Report
The Protector. You really should give a number of things a re think. You should be damn thankful you live somewhere that has laws and mores based on the Judeo/ Christian principals. For instance if you lived in an Islamic nation and denied God (Allah) you would be dead seconds later. Believe what you will but because of Christianity you are still walking around expressing an opinion. The wrong one I believe but that is my opinion.
Grump 8/22/2013 2:22:27 PM Report
Brianne Dork? ,such language from a little girl. lol
theprotector 8/22/2013 2:23:38 PM Report
fair enough grump if you wish to kiss the ass of a falsehood then go ahead. I am free to express my opinion not because of religion but because of our society. I think you need a history lesson on the two world wars that allow me this positon. Since when is not beleiving in something wrong? Look at history my friend and you will be suprised at what you find. How dare you attempt to force me to beleive in a religion of any sort, the insinuation that we have these freedoms because of your god is at best pathetic and offensive - no different than the Islam extremeists you so readily hate. What gives you that right? I know you dont have that right, you do not and will never have the right to judge anyone's beliefs, perhpas this is happening in some islam sects still does not give you the right to judge and if you do, then you are a hypocrit and violating what you claim to beleive in.
theprotector 8/22/2013 2:26:16 PM Report
haha bri you cant get across because of well you know...but hey spin it the way you want
Grump 8/22/2013 2:29:46 PM Report
Mallet and Bounder, rumour has it they had to open two more gates at the rapids due to the tears of the Pointes Estates NIMBYs. Funny how life sometimes turns around and bites you right on the butt.
Grump 8/22/2013 3:03:25 PM Report
Sheesh The Protector stick to the script. I don't give a rat's furry butt what you believe or don't believe. I was simply pointing out that you have the right to express your opinion because of the very things you are railing against. That my friend is an oxymoron but carry on, but next time tell someone who cares. LMAO.
cathyh 8/22/2013 3:19:26 PM Report
Grump: IMHO the protector is right on.
Grump 8/22/2013 3:50:38 PM Report
cathyh , And in my humble opinion Cathy I don't give a furry rat's butt what either the Protector or you think. You like The Protector are free to express any dumb assed opinion you want because of our system of laws etc. Now if you think for a second you have these same rights everywhere then go and give your head a shake. As I suggested to your pal The Protector next time around post to someone who cares.
Guenther_Of_The_Apes 8/22/2013 3:54:30 PM Report
Grump, stick to dump fights and not lectures on history or religion. We are able to express our opinions not because of Judeo/Christian based laws, but because we took steps to separate Church and State. If that hadn't have happened, we would still be living in an oppressive regime much like the ones you love to hate with a passion of someone who unfortunately never was able to look beyond himself and see the world he had the unique opportunity to experience.
Oldie Goldie 8/22/2013 4:30:32 PM Report
Theprotector---" Evolution and Adaptation have been proven "
O yah ! Evolution had to start somewhere in order for it to evolve---look up " Evolved " in the Dictionary.
" Adaptation " also involves a change from one thing to another so I say
" Adapted from what "---another one to look up in the Dictionary.
Without an answer to these things you are just getting yourself deeper and deeper in to a Dark Hole.
Even modern day Science says there had to be a beginning but are unable to determine how everything started---But you could probably tell those Scientists---couldn't you theprotector.
I am reminded of a Sign on a Church Bulletin Board recently.
It said " If the world started with a big bang guess who lit the fuse ".
Snobank 8/22/2013 5:21:34 PM Report
I believe theprotector has every right to state his opinion even tho I don't fully agree with him, but geesh, I wish he would learn to spell the word "believe" as he uses it constantly.
Grump 8/22/2013 5:27:31 PM Report
Apes go play in the swamp because I sure and not interested in lectures from a twit like you. The Church and State are separate but our justice system is based on what it is based on so blather away if you care to but who cares?
BIG BROTHER 8/22/2013 5:33:20 PM Report
Grace, this one's for you. Your 'cutiepie' is at it again. Like father; like son...ain't it just the cutest story.
flyhawk25 8/22/2013 6:24:41 PM Report
BB- I was in getting my car serviced today when that story came on.
Small sampling of a half dozen people who all said - so what.
The story is a non-issue.
Maybe if Harper got a little mellow we'd buy into his baloney.
undecided 8/22/2013 7:20:56 PM Report
Nice to see the neocons leaving JT alone. Seems Sun media's leaving him alone also. I guess they've been told the more they try to make fun of him the more popular he is with the younger voters and righties definitely don't want to get the young people out to vote
Oldie Goldie 8/22/2013 7:30:25 PM Report
Sno Bank---You are right---everyone is entitled to his or her opinion but theprotector rarely uses the word " opinion " because he believes he is always right therefore his statements are NOT opinions. There is the problem with theprotectors believability.
I am thinking my 4:30 posting has him stymied because he has not replied to it.
sweetc 8/22/2013 7:47:22 PM Report
Well the story has been posted on "the other site". Charges against the officers in the Howard case have been dropped. It is over. RIP Matt Howard. Hope they all remember what they did or didn't do.
shakespeare 8/22/2013 8:06:23 PM Report
In a totally unrelated item, I hear that (it's just a rumour) that after being found out for compromising the Plumbers' Code by using lead-based solder, rw has decided to live his life as a woman and he is hereafter to be known as Trixie.
Grump 8/22/2013 8:24:07 PM Report
Well Shaky, Trixie does have a much nicer ring to it. To give Trixie credit they had to do something with Steve smelling worse every day. I hope Trixie is a happier soul than rw and is sure to be with that right wing load of crap lifted. Lol.
debo 8/22/2013 9:23:28 PM Report
So, according to the story on "the other site" the same hearing officer (T Kelly - a retired Deputy Chief of Police) who originally dismissed the charges surrounding the Matt Howard case was in charge of the re-hearing???
Seems fair and just to me.
I applaud your courage in trying to get justice Mrs. Nisbett.
sweetc 8/22/2013 9:28:48 PM Report
yeah in my opinion...no matter how you cut it it smells rotten and always will.
debo 8/22/2013 10:05:35 PM Report
"Justice Minister" Peter MacKay is slamming J Trudeau for his admission regarding marijuana ... as "a profound lack of judgement".
This from the guy who commandeers armed forces equipment for fishing excursions!!!
While serving as MoD.
No wonder Belinda Stronach and the other woman who was engaged to him dumped him. All he's missing is the red wig, big shoes, white face-paint and polka-dot outfit.
BUT, if he can't get a gig as Bozo ... he can always try police investigations in Ontario.
Brianne 8/22/2013 10:55:07 PM Report
ok protector , sir dorkamundo, why am i not allowed across ?
I know I am allowed, and have no need to have to prove that to anyone, you included. But I'd really like to hear YOUR thought on why YOU think i'm not allowed to go across the border.
let's have it big guy
Brianne 8/22/2013 10:57:13 PM Report
I'd like to remind you, dork, that my job entails a CRC....... anything else you'd like to say.
Several people on here know where I work as well, so your thoughts won't get far.
Snobank 8/22/2013 10:57:58 PM Report
Oldie Goldie, I agree with you about thedefender`s credibility. I`m just making the point that if we truly believe in free speech then we have to allow the same rights to those we don`t agree with.
The more thedefender writes, the more he or she loses credibility.
Is there a point beyond which a person can go that means we must curtail their freedom of expression, ie Mrs. B. I`m of mixed feelings about that. Abby Hoffman used to argue that we should be able to yell `Fire` in a crowded movie theatre whenever we wanted to.
Oldie Goldie 8/22/2013 11:20:11 PM Report
Snobank---we are taking about theprotector --- not the defender ---
and, yes he has his rights to believe what he posts about.
All I want him to do is state that his postings are Opinions and not FACTS.
He believes in Evolution and Adaptation and that is his right but all I asked of him is to tell me who started the Evolution and Adaptation processes.
Many Scientists believe that there had to be a start--somehow---somewhere--to what he believes and he does not know where or when it all began.
It is my opinion that God started it all and until someone tells me different I will continue to believe that.
Theprotector can only say that it was an Evolution and Adaptation and I say---Evolved from what and Adapted from what and Theprotector has not stated his opinion on that and I expect he won't because he has no idea where it all started.