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Mr. Poster 3/22/2013 7:12:13 AM Report
Ya gotta love those CONSERVATIVES !!The finance minister says the government is going to crack down on tax cheaters...good..but...why not start with those cheaters sitting in the senate??
Ya gotta love those CONSERVATIVES !!The finance minister says the government is going to crack down on tax cheaters...good..but...why not start with those cheaters sitting in the senate??
Grace 3/22/2013 7:30:58 AM Report
Commons approves transgender rights bill, with help from 16 Tories
http://www.search.ask.com/web?l=dis&o=100000027&qsrc=2869&gct=kwd&q=Commons%20approves%20transgender%20rights%20bill,%20with%20help%20of%2016%20Tory%20MPs
Commons approves transgender rights bill, with help from 16 Tories
http://www.search.ask.com/web?l=dis&o=100000027&qsrc=2869&gct=kwd&q=Commons%20approves%20transgender%20rights%20bill,%20with%20help%20of%2016%20Tory%20MPs
Spellchecker 3/22/2013 7:47:13 AM Report
Wisenheimer, I already have Goldcorp and I have Yamana under consideration for my third foray there. Enjoy your Florida vacation.
Bobby, have you seen a gold chart of the past decade and are you paying attention to the folly of our fiat mad governments in the western world? The dow/gold ratio now stands at about 9:1. Historically it returns to 1:1. It is on its way down right now. This could mean 20,000 on the Dow with a $20,000 gold price or a 2,000 Dow with a $2,000 gold price.
I vote for the former as all the new fiat currency heads for the stock market. If it goes the other way, highly unlikely, the stock market will have bargain prices and the governments will have smartened up, again highly unlikely. Have a look at the charts on this article.
http://bullmarketthinking.com/200-years-of-the-dowgold-ratio-suggest-staggering-moves-dead-ahead/
Wisenheimer, I already have Goldcorp and I have Yamana under consideration for my third foray there. Enjoy your Florida vacation.
Bobby, have you seen a gold chart of the past decade and are you paying attention to the folly of our fiat mad governments in the western world? The dow/gold ratio now stands at about 9:1. Historically it returns to 1:1. It is on its way down right now. This could mean 20,000 on the Dow with a $20,000 gold price or a 2,000 Dow with a $2,000 gold price.
I vote for the former as all the new fiat currency heads for the stock market. If it goes the other way, highly unlikely, the stock market will have bargain prices and the governments will have smartened up, again highly unlikely. Have a look at the charts on this article.
http://bullmarketthinking.com/200-years-of-the-dowgold-ratio-suggest-staggering-moves-dead-ahead/
Chrissy79 3/22/2013 8:58:13 AM Report
THE SAULT STAR THEIF ON SHERBOURNE STREET I really had to respond to this since you are talking about a Thief. Just want to let everyone out there know about an incident that happened 2 days ago. The Sault Star Man Stole $25.00 from my mailbox. I actually seen him remove the money and was in shock. My daughter had the money in the mailbox from a lady that bought some of her old clothes from her. When I seen him grab the money I had no time to respond as he threw the newspaper and ran as fast as he could down the driveway and continued to run and run till I could not see him no more. I contacted the Sault Star right away and told them my story. They said I had to call this other number. Which turned out to be a call center. The lady on phone took my story then said someone will contact me in a day. I said a day? The man just stole money from me he should be fired. So about an hour later the manager calls. I tell him my story. He had enough nerve to say maybe the man thought it was a tip. I said he knew it wasn't a tip that is why he ran as fast as he could. I told him a $25 tip I dont think so. So then the manager started sticking up for the man. I was getting really upset. I asked the manager for his name so I can have the man charged. The manager said he can't give me the name due to the privacy act and that is was not his problem and that it probably isn't necessary to have him charged. I was so upset. I told the The Sault Star company this guy should be fired and to cancel my Sault Star Subscription as I am disgusted on how they don't care there employee stole $25.00. I did not want him around my yard anymore as he is a THIEF... So I would like to let everyone know that is in the Sherbourne, Patrick street area that gets the Sault Star delivered from a man who is in his late 20's early 30's and wears a long beige jacket all the time with dark scruffy hair. To watch out for this this Thief. Especially if other things begin going missing. This man did not get fired from his job as the Sault Star company seems to not care who they hire. We should have the right to know who is coming onto our property especially if they are THIEFS!!!!!!!! So disgusted and Upset!
THE SAULT STAR THEIF ON SHERBOURNE STREET I really had to respond to this since you are talking about a Thief. Just want to let everyone out there know about an incident that happened 2 days ago. The Sault Star Man Stole $25.00 from my mailbox. I actually seen him remove the money and was in shock. My daughter had the money in the mailbox from a lady that bought some of her old clothes from her. When I seen him grab the money I had no time to respond as he threw the newspaper and ran as fast as he could down the driveway and continued to run and run till I could not see him no more. I contacted the Sault Star right away and told them my story. They said I had to call this other number. Which turned out to be a call center. The lady on phone took my story then said someone will contact me in a day. I said a day? The man just stole money from me he should be fired. So about an hour later the manager calls. I tell him my story. He had enough nerve to say maybe the man thought it was a tip. I said he knew it wasn't a tip that is why he ran as fast as he could. I told him a $25 tip I dont think so. So then the manager started sticking up for the man. I was getting really upset. I asked the manager for his name so I can have the man charged. The manager said he can't give me the name due to the privacy act and that is was not his problem and that it probably isn't necessary to have him charged. I was so upset. I told the The Sault Star company this guy should be fired and to cancel my Sault Star Subscription as I am disgusted on how they don't care there employee stole $25.00. I did not want him around my yard anymore as he is a THIEF... So I would like to let everyone know that is in the Sherbourne, Patrick street area that gets the Sault Star delivered from a man who is in his late 20's early 30's and wears a long beige jacket all the time with dark scruffy hair. To watch out for this this Thief. Especially if other things begin going missing. This man did not get fired from his job as the Sault Star company seems to not care who they hire. We should have the right to know who is coming onto our property especially if they are THIEFS!!!!!!!! So disgusted and Upset!
Mr. Poster 3/22/2013 9:19:12 AM Report
If he is the regualr carrier then you should see him delivering in your neighbourhood. If so...you might want to have a certain "chat" with him. Sometimes this privacy crap goes too far and only protects the perpertrator.
If he is the regualr carrier then you should see him delivering in your neighbourhood. If so...you might want to have a certain "chat" with him. Sometimes this privacy crap goes too far and only protects the perpertrator.
Grump 3/22/2013 9:19:28 AM Report
Good morning all, got back from Pembroke last evening and my butt was dragging pretty low. Had a great snooze and an extra three hours this morning. Now for all you gourmet cooks and diners. We dined out at a fairly upscale Italian restaurant Wed. evening and I had ravioli stuffed with butternut squash and cheese served with a sauce, with chicken stock as the main item. They were wonderfull tasting but whoever their cook was they couldn't make dough to match anything made here but the stuffing was light and very tasty. Now I must get it in gear so have a grat day all.
Good morning all, got back from Pembroke last evening and my butt was dragging pretty low. Had a great snooze and an extra three hours this morning. Now for all you gourmet cooks and diners. We dined out at a fairly upscale Italian restaurant Wed. evening and I had ravioli stuffed with butternut squash and cheese served with a sauce, with chicken stock as the main item. They were wonderfull tasting but whoever their cook was they couldn't make dough to match anything made here but the stuffing was light and very tasty. Now I must get it in gear so have a grat day all.
right wing 3/22/2013 9:23:21 AM Report
Spellchecker
I see statusquo was back last night with his "flame on".
I really don't understand why he gets so angry at something he does not even believe in.
Why doesn't he rant about folks that believe in Unicorns or psychics, there are plenty of them around.
I found it very interesting that statusquo stated the following.
"I maintain that anybody firmly entrenched in a "God belief" is not un-intelligent but psychologically deficient....i.e traumatic childhood issues."
Hey stats.
You won't want to miss this.
I posted it the other day and your above comment seems to fit, perhaps not exactly the way you'd like but it fits.
Check out the 5th post.
http://tinyurl.com/b3s9h6t
Spellchecker
I see statusquo was back last night with his "flame on".
I really don't understand why he gets so angry at something he does not even believe in.
Why doesn't he rant about folks that believe in Unicorns or psychics, there are plenty of them around.
I found it very interesting that statusquo stated the following.
"I maintain that anybody firmly entrenched in a "God belief" is not un-intelligent but psychologically deficient....i.e traumatic childhood issues."
Hey stats.
You won't want to miss this.
I posted it the other day and your above comment seems to fit, perhaps not exactly the way you'd like but it fits.
Check out the 5th post.
http://tinyurl.com/b3s9h6t
bounder 3/22/2013 9:26:04 AM Report
Grump,if you don,t mind me asking,Pembroke is across from the island in Quebec,and is also my families hometown area,my Grandfather was Captain on the SS Pontiac when there was no bridge.,you have family there.
Grump,if you don,t mind me asking,Pembroke is across from the island in Quebec,and is also my families hometown area,my Grandfather was Captain on the SS Pontiac when there was no bridge.,you have family there.
Spellchecker 3/22/2013 9:41:03 AM Report
Right wing, that was the post that set off his latest tirade. He has already seen it.
Right wing, that was the post that set off his latest tirade. He has already seen it.
Nats85 3/22/2013 9:46:41 AM Report
Good morning...Is this just to talk about WHATEVER? I'm a little confused about the point of this page or "forum"? And what's the point of the "View Room", and how come no one posts in that one? lol Plus I'm trying to follow the trains of thought happening on this section..
Good morning...Is this just to talk about WHATEVER? I'm a little confused about the point of this page or "forum"? And what's the point of the "View Room", and how come no one posts in that one? lol Plus I'm trying to follow the trains of thought happening on this section..
Nats85 3/22/2013 9:48:42 AM Report
As for that little thieving s.o.b. that works for the Sault Star, I agree, I'd be waiting for him to come down my street again..or have you brought this to the attention of the police? I know they have "bigger fish to fry" and all that with all the crime happening lately, but still worth reporting in my opinion.
As for that little thieving s.o.b. that works for the Sault Star, I agree, I'd be waiting for him to come down my street again..or have you brought this to the attention of the police? I know they have "bigger fish to fry" and all that with all the crime happening lately, but still worth reporting in my opinion.
Chrissy79 3/22/2013 10:01:12 AM Report
Yes my husband seen the thief yesterday by was too late to have a chat with him by the time he seem him he was long gone.. I still can't believe the Manager of the Sault Star saying well there is nothing he could do. 1# He can fire him.. There is a start.. I just wanted to bring this attention to the area on sherbourne and patrick street area so everyone is aware. To lock up anything around there yard that this prick can steal.. It just bothers me that the Sault Star don't look into who they hire. They could of been in jail for murder, or theft ect.. and they are coming into our yards. I think they need to get cracking on looking into who they hire... What happened to young children delivery papers for spending money.. Now they have adults that are not trustable doing it taking away the kids jobs.. I think because they can't get hired anywhere else because they're criminals.....
Yes my husband seen the thief yesterday by was too late to have a chat with him by the time he seem him he was long gone.. I still can't believe the Manager of the Sault Star saying well there is nothing he could do. 1# He can fire him.. There is a start.. I just wanted to bring this attention to the area on sherbourne and patrick street area so everyone is aware. To lock up anything around there yard that this prick can steal.. It just bothers me that the Sault Star don't look into who they hire. They could of been in jail for murder, or theft ect.. and they are coming into our yards. I think they need to get cracking on looking into who they hire... What happened to young children delivery papers for spending money.. Now they have adults that are not trustable doing it taking away the kids jobs.. I think because they can't get hired anywhere else because they're criminals.....
right wing 3/22/2013 10:01:24 AM Report
Spellchecker
Thanks. I had missed that one post and only saw the last couple.
Makes sense now.
It might be good if he looks at it again and realizes we didn't actually write the stuff.
Spellchecker
Thanks. I had missed that one post and only saw the last couple.
Makes sense now.
It might be good if he looks at it again and realizes we didn't actually write the stuff.
JUSTANOTHERNAME 3/22/2013 10:10:01 AM Report
Someone posted this under one of the news articles,it is worth a read.
Sorry for the long link.
http://www.saultstar.com/2013/03/22/killer-released-to-sault-family?utm_source=addThis&utm_medium=addthis_button_facebook&utm_campaign=Killer+released+to+Sault+family+%7C+Local+%7C+News+%7C+Sault+Star#.UUxYQEbfRdc.facebook
Someone posted this under one of the news articles,it is worth a read.
Sorry for the long link.
http://www.saultstar.com/2013/03/22/killer-released-to-sault-family?utm_source=addThis&utm_medium=addthis_button_facebook&utm_campaign=Killer+released+to+Sault+family+%7C+Local+%7C+News+%7C+Sault+Star#.UUxYQEbfRdc.facebook
flyhawk25 3/22/2013 10:13:29 AM Report
I must be reading the wrong information.
How could the Conservative government have run our deficit up to $150B since 2006?
That can't be. Things are so much better since Harper took over.
I must be reading the wrong information.
How could the Conservative government have run our deficit up to $150B since 2006?
That can't be. Things are so much better since Harper took over.
Just Curious 3/22/2013 10:23:05 AM Report
@chrissy 79; The sad fact is you can't get kids to deliver the papers anymore,they are too busy texting and playing games on the computer.. I know as I was a bundle delivery driver and just about every week there was one or two different kid drops,the adult carriers stayed the same.I have a teenage grandson and you couldn't get him too do the flyers if you dragged him down the street with a horse. Kids today by and large are just too lazy and want every thing for nothing...
@chrissy 79; The sad fact is you can't get kids to deliver the papers anymore,they are too busy texting and playing games on the computer.. I know as I was a bundle delivery driver and just about every week there was one or two different kid drops,the adult carriers stayed the same.I have a teenage grandson and you couldn't get him too do the flyers if you dragged him down the street with a horse. Kids today by and large are just too lazy and want every thing for nothing...
bino 3/22/2013 10:34:10 AM Report
As for the Sault Star thread,I called the Star to complain about my carrier and said that I was going to cancel my subscription because of the carrier being late and sometimes leaving the paper on my steps instead of the letter box and was told they would rather lose a customer than try to get a new deliverer.So I cancelled and now get my news online.When i want and where I want.
As for the Sault Star thread,I called the Star to complain about my carrier and said that I was going to cancel my subscription because of the carrier being late and sometimes leaving the paper on my steps instead of the letter box and was told they would rather lose a customer than try to get a new deliverer.So I cancelled and now get my news online.When i want and where I want.
Just Curious 3/22/2013 10:46:22 AM Report
Just saw the story and picture about the abused dog at the Humane society. I think we need to bring back the stocks and public flogging for stuff like that. I cannot begin to imagine how anyone could abuse an animal that way....:(
Just saw the story and picture about the abused dog at the Humane society. I think we need to bring back the stocks and public flogging for stuff like that. I cannot begin to imagine how anyone could abuse an animal that way....:(
Wicket 3/22/2013 11:14:53 AM Report
chrissy79... phone the police station and repeat the story to them, they may just have a talk with the fella, who knows. Notifying people on here is a good warning for your neighbours, but only the police can resolve this, they can also confirm with the manager about your phone call and inquire as to why he is taking no action.
chrissy79... phone the police station and repeat the story to them, they may just have a talk with the fella, who knows. Notifying people on here is a good warning for your neighbours, but only the police can resolve this, they can also confirm with the manager about your phone call and inquire as to why he is taking no action.
Wicket 3/22/2013 11:16:33 AM Report
I must mention that this guy mustn't have too much going for him when he still needs to deliver papers right in your neighbourhood - guess he didn't think of that when he took the money.
I must mention that this guy mustn't have too much going for him when he still needs to deliver papers right in your neighbourhood - guess he didn't think of that when he took the money.
Wicket 3/22/2013 11:22:03 AM Report
Nats85.. to answer your questions about the "rooms" - before Sootoday decided to enable posting under each news article, all news responses were posted here. The 'view room' which is referred to as the red room is for more social chic-chat.
The 'blue room' (which is this one) has become a forum for debate on any topic, mostly political, some religion, a lot of name calling on many days, and just a way to discuss/vent on anything that is of interest to an individual.
It is a fun thing and the fellas here have a good time tossing their opinions around.
There are Summit meetings which take place periodically throughout the year and many of us have met in public places to continue friendly discussions.
There are also social gatherings (red room) and we now also have summit/social get togethers. All in the name of fun and socialization.
Please join in.
Nats85.. to answer your questions about the "rooms" - before Sootoday decided to enable posting under each news article, all news responses were posted here. The 'view room' which is referred to as the red room is for more social chic-chat.
The 'blue room' (which is this one) has become a forum for debate on any topic, mostly political, some religion, a lot of name calling on many days, and just a way to discuss/vent on anything that is of interest to an individual.
It is a fun thing and the fellas here have a good time tossing their opinions around.
There are Summit meetings which take place periodically throughout the year and many of us have met in public places to continue friendly discussions.
There are also social gatherings (red room) and we now also have summit/social get togethers. All in the name of fun and socialization.
Please join in.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 11:29:00 AM Report
59 year old man gets stabbed in Queen St. And you want to know why I carry?
59 year old man gets stabbed in Queen St. And you want to know why I carry?
skipper dave 3/22/2013 11:38:55 AM Report
Voice - give it a rest and stay away from the cop shows on TV. Whatever meds you require to take to keep you out of that fantasy land in your head please comply. I know I'm just jealous because the little voices in your head aren't talking to me right? So to date Voice is a gun toting PHD in Pharmacology, approves meds being distributed internally up at SAH but does not live in the Sault. See voice I'm paying attention but my head hurts trying to keep track. Jeez who writes your stuff it's hilarious.
Voice - give it a rest and stay away from the cop shows on TV. Whatever meds you require to take to keep you out of that fantasy land in your head please comply. I know I'm just jealous because the little voices in your head aren't talking to me right? So to date Voice is a gun toting PHD in Pharmacology, approves meds being distributed internally up at SAH but does not live in the Sault. See voice I'm paying attention but my head hurts trying to keep track. Jeez who writes your stuff it's hilarious.
flyhawk25 3/22/2013 11:40:59 AM Report
VoR...I cannot tell you how much safer I feel knowing that you are walking around with a gun.
Do you have chaps, cowboy hat and a Texas Ranger badge?
Perhaps you might want to consider moving to the US where people like you actually hang out together, form posses and keep America safe.
That seems to be working well.
VoR...I cannot tell you how much safer I feel knowing that you are walking around with a gun.
Do you have chaps, cowboy hat and a Texas Ranger badge?
Perhaps you might want to consider moving to the US where people like you actually hang out together, form posses and keep America safe.
That seems to be working well.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 11:46:44 AM Report
I already told you I live outside of Canada.
And you know what? Damn f*ckin' right you should feel more safe! I want to see you have that happen to you and then maybe you'll change your tune.
You idiots wouldn't know self defense if it sh*t on your chest.
I already told you I live outside of Canada.
And you know what? Damn f*ckin' right you should feel more safe! I want to see you have that happen to you and then maybe you'll change your tune.
You idiots wouldn't know self defense if it sh*t on your chest.
skipper dave 3/22/2013 11:49:48 AM Report
I thought the Duke was dead? Voice you the reincarnation of the Big guy?
I thought the Duke was dead? Voice you the reincarnation of the Big guy?
skipper dave 3/22/2013 11:51:53 AM Report
Oh crap I get it - Voice is a card carrying member of the NRA - Makes sense now.
Oh crap I get it - Voice is a card carrying member of the NRA - Makes sense now.
flyhawk25 3/22/2013 11:52:09 AM Report
VoR...does "outside of Canada" include other planets? Can you contact the mother ship with telepathy? Are those voices in your head in English?
VoR...does "outside of Canada" include other planets? Can you contact the mother ship with telepathy? Are those voices in your head in English?
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 11:52:17 AM Report
Joke allllll you want. There is such a thing as responsible, law-abiding citizens who can carry.
Heres a news flash for you; it isn't actually illegal in Canada. 13 people have their ATC-3 in Ontario.
Joke allllll you want. There is such a thing as responsible, law-abiding citizens who can carry.
Heres a news flash for you; it isn't actually illegal in Canada. 13 people have their ATC-3 in Ontario.
skipper dave 3/22/2013 11:54:55 AM Report
RW didn't we suggest you not unleash voice before noon - This guy is responsible for more blown coffee than Tim Hortons has available. And yes Voice I'm making fun of you. I'll try to behave but thanks for the comic relief.
RW didn't we suggest you not unleash voice before noon - This guy is responsible for more blown coffee than Tim Hortons has available. And yes Voice I'm making fun of you. I'll try to behave but thanks for the comic relief.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 11:55:24 AM Report
So you two hammers-in-a-bag probably think that police and government agencies are the only people who should carry, right?
Well what makes you think they are so qualified and I'm not? Have you seen some of these so called "officers?" Pretty sickening.
st-st-st-st-st-st-stupiddddddd.
So you two hammers-in-a-bag probably think that police and government agencies are the only people who should carry, right?
Well what makes you think they are so qualified and I'm not? Have you seen some of these so called "officers?" Pretty sickening.
st-st-st-st-st-st-stupiddddddd.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 12:05:45 PM Report
Come on guys, can't have a civil conversation without making fun of someone, and then not being able to take your own medicine?
You guys should get a refill on your cialis and shovel your wives off the couch. That would keep you busy for the next while.
Come on guys, can't have a civil conversation without making fun of someone, and then not being able to take your own medicine?
You guys should get a refill on your cialis and shovel your wives off the couch. That would keep you busy for the next while.
Nats85 3/22/2013 12:25:20 PM Report
Carrying a gun makes you feel safer? How and why? You must not have children. Having a gun in the house or on my person would be totally horrifying. It's bad enough that criminals can get their hands on guns (usually stolen from citizens like your selves who have them for protection) and misuse them, so YES let's allow EVERYONE to carry them!! Because we all know that works so well for you guys in the US :| Get real. Carrying a gun doesn't make you any safer, all it does is ENSURE that someone that goes to rob you definitely use their gun on you. You're just guaranteeing more violence inflicted on yourself. At most, you get shot and shoot that person back...GREAT what the f**k did that solve???????? NOTHING. Carrying a gun may make you FEEL safer but definitely doesn't mean you ARE safer. To me, it means the opposite.
Carrying a gun makes you feel safer? How and why? You must not have children. Having a gun in the house or on my person would be totally horrifying. It's bad enough that criminals can get their hands on guns (usually stolen from citizens like your selves who have them for protection) and misuse them, so YES let's allow EVERYONE to carry them!! Because we all know that works so well for you guys in the US :| Get real. Carrying a gun doesn't make you any safer, all it does is ENSURE that someone that goes to rob you definitely use their gun on you. You're just guaranteeing more violence inflicted on yourself. At most, you get shot and shoot that person back...GREAT what the f**k did that solve???????? NOTHING. Carrying a gun may make you FEEL safer but definitely doesn't mean you ARE safer. To me, it means the opposite.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 12:31:26 PM Report
Proof yet again that Canadians live in a dream world.
Look at any statistic in the U.S. and you'll find where you have the most CCW permits issued, you have the least violent crime. Chicago is a gun free zone and it has the highest murder rate. Connecticut, home of the latest massacre, has Canada-like gun control laws.
So what makes you okay with a police officer having a gun? That he went through a bit of training in Alymer? God, this is why I left Canada. It turned into a socialist overrun ruled nation.
Proof yet again that Canadians live in a dream world.
Look at any statistic in the U.S. and you'll find where you have the most CCW permits issued, you have the least violent crime. Chicago is a gun free zone and it has the highest murder rate. Connecticut, home of the latest massacre, has Canada-like gun control laws.
So what makes you okay with a police officer having a gun? That he went through a bit of training in Alymer? God, this is why I left Canada. It turned into a socialist overrun ruled nation.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 12:32:53 PM Report
Nats, stay informed. You are just as ignorant as you call your neighbors to the south.
Not everyone can get a CCW either. They have to go through a background check similar to the one Canadians go through, and then complete training.
Nats, stay informed. You are just as ignorant as you call your neighbors to the south.
Not everyone can get a CCW either. They have to go through a background check similar to the one Canadians go through, and then complete training.
skipper dave 3/22/2013 12:35:36 PM Report
Voice did I ever discuss my theory of small pee pee's and the need to have a hand gun?
Voice did I ever discuss my theory of small pee pee's and the need to have a hand gun?
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 12:36:18 PM Report
Teach your children at a young age how to be responsible. I was practicing before a competition in Sault, Canada (Yes, we are allowed to bring our guns across the border if we fill out the paperwork) and while practicing the day before, I noticed a younger guy with his son who were shooting a .22LR. PROPERLY TEACHING YOUR CHILDREN HOW TO BE RESPONSIBLE IS WHAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE!
Teach your children at a young age how to be responsible. I was practicing before a competition in Sault, Canada (Yes, we are allowed to bring our guns across the border if we fill out the paperwork) and while practicing the day before, I noticed a younger guy with his son who were shooting a .22LR. PROPERLY TEACHING YOUR CHILDREN HOW TO BE RESPONSIBLE IS WHAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE!
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 12:38:34 PM Report
skip, yeah I've heard your Freudian babble. Just like him, you're a dolt.
I bet you think the same about men who drive big trucks or corvettes too? Jesus, what a bunch of incoherent babbling.
skip, yeah I've heard your Freudian babble. Just like him, you're a dolt.
I bet you think the same about men who drive big trucks or corvettes too? Jesus, what a bunch of incoherent babbling.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 12:40:51 PM Report
So Nats, explain to me how carrying a gun will get me shot? If I am concealing it, and no one but my knows I have it, how will I get shot. I have the element of surprise.
So Nats, explain to me how carrying a gun will get me shot? If I am concealing it, and no one but my knows I have it, how will I get shot. I have the element of surprise.
Wicket 3/22/2013 12:49:04 PM Report
Voice - I WILL ADMIT IT! I have a fear of guns - period! Also, have a fear of knives that are used for reasons other than food preparation.
My irrational fears include heights, flying and maybe dying.
Just because you believe yourself to be brave and carry a gun, does not mean you will not crap your pants when confronted with someone else threatening with a gun who is behaving irrationally.
Voice - I WILL ADMIT IT! I have a fear of guns - period! Also, have a fear of knives that are used for reasons other than food preparation.
My irrational fears include heights, flying and maybe dying.
Just because you believe yourself to be brave and carry a gun, does not mean you will not crap your pants when confronted with someone else threatening with a gun who is behaving irrationally.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 12:51:44 PM Report
You're right Wicket, it doesn't guarantee anything. But it's an equalizer. And when the guy pulls a knife and you step back and draw, he will run. I guarantee that.
You're right Wicket, it doesn't guarantee anything. But it's an equalizer. And when the guy pulls a knife and you step back and draw, he will run. I guarantee that.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 12:52:35 PM Report
A criminal who knows the majority of the public is armed will not rob anyone. Utah is proof of that.
A criminal who knows the majority of the public is armed will not rob anyone. Utah is proof of that.
Nats85 3/22/2013 12:53:43 PM Report
I do not FEAR guns, i was raised to RESPECT them. I was raised that they are TOOLS in which my family gathered food. Don't ever call me ignorant. You think because you now live in the US you're so much more INFORMED than I? WRONG, I too lived with my family for many years in the US, in a very large city where shootings were happening at the corner of my street and drive bys were even happening. I am very well educated and EXPERIENCED in life and what it brings thank you. Concealing it means nothing if you live in a place where it is well known and accepted that you are probably carrying. They robbed a man with a knife because there was little to NO CHANCE he was carrying a weapon. If you live where it is LIKELY you are carrying a gun then you better believe the man or woman that will attempt to rob you WILL pull a gun on you.
I do not FEAR guns, i was raised to RESPECT them. I was raised that they are TOOLS in which my family gathered food. Don't ever call me ignorant. You think because you now live in the US you're so much more INFORMED than I? WRONG, I too lived with my family for many years in the US, in a very large city where shootings were happening at the corner of my street and drive bys were even happening. I am very well educated and EXPERIENCED in life and what it brings thank you. Concealing it means nothing if you live in a place where it is well known and accepted that you are probably carrying. They robbed a man with a knife because there was little to NO CHANCE he was carrying a weapon. If you live where it is LIKELY you are carrying a gun then you better believe the man or woman that will attempt to rob you WILL pull a gun on you.
Nats85 3/22/2013 12:56:35 PM Report
And just because guns are NOT allowed does not mean that is WHY those shootings occur. Have you ever studied those states or cities mental health regulations? The incidence of mental health and how they are treated and at what rate? Mental health plays a HUGE role in all of those shootings...those are typically NOT sane individuals.
And just because guns are NOT allowed does not mean that is WHY those shootings occur. Have you ever studied those states or cities mental health regulations? The incidence of mental health and how they are treated and at what rate? Mental health plays a HUGE role in all of those shootings...those are typically NOT sane individuals.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 12:56:40 PM Report
No Nats, they won't rob you period. It's not worth you being able to fight back. Robbery is an opportunity crime, period. Criminals will only strike IF they have the upper hand.
No Nats, they won't rob you period. It's not worth you being able to fight back. Robbery is an opportunity crime, period. Criminals will only strike IF they have the upper hand.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 12:57:54 PM Report
Okay Nats, so why don't you try to treat mental illnesses rather than take away guns from SANE, LAW ABIDING PEOPLE?!
Okay Nats, so why don't you try to treat mental illnesses rather than take away guns from SANE, LAW ABIDING PEOPLE?!
skipper dave 3/22/2013 12:58:11 PM Report
Hey wait just a god damn minute I'm getting a thought here so be patient. I may have to apologize to Voice. Marine regulations state that a vessel the size of the Celtic Cross carry a flare pistol with an assortment of different flares. The pistol is bright red and is breach loaded like a shotgun. Now If I was to insert say a star flare and fire at your midsection it would be one hell of a way to go. Now If I could get a gun holster, no Two cause I'm going to give one to Spellchecker and we could go around hilton Beach marina with a big nasty strapped to our hips just in case we get in trouble (I'm thinking we are in pretty much deep do do the first time we pack) Now take this one step further and Spelly and I get all lickered up watching Nascar and decide to celebrate our heroes win by firing from the sun deck out toward the sailboats docked ever so serenely. How long before the OPP make the trip from the capitol Richards Landing over to the Tilton?
If it's longer than five minutes than we should be OK. Unless Spelly has flares that last longer than that. Now do you folks see why when you offer me a beer I graciously decline. It gets way too expensive after the first beer. In my first marriage I once went out for smokes and came back eight hours later with a bullet hole in my trunk. Hands up to those who have had that experience? So thanks Voice and ignore my theory on the wee pee pee and hand guns, not true at all.
Hey wait just a god damn minute I'm getting a thought here so be patient. I may have to apologize to Voice. Marine regulations state that a vessel the size of the Celtic Cross carry a flare pistol with an assortment of different flares. The pistol is bright red and is breach loaded like a shotgun. Now If I was to insert say a star flare and fire at your midsection it would be one hell of a way to go. Now If I could get a gun holster, no Two cause I'm going to give one to Spellchecker and we could go around hilton Beach marina with a big nasty strapped to our hips just in case we get in trouble (I'm thinking we are in pretty much deep do do the first time we pack) Now take this one step further and Spelly and I get all lickered up watching Nascar and decide to celebrate our heroes win by firing from the sun deck out toward the sailboats docked ever so serenely. How long before the OPP make the trip from the capitol Richards Landing over to the Tilton?
If it's longer than five minutes than we should be OK. Unless Spelly has flares that last longer than that. Now do you folks see why when you offer me a beer I graciously decline. It gets way too expensive after the first beer. In my first marriage I once went out for smokes and came back eight hours later with a bullet hole in my trunk. Hands up to those who have had that experience? So thanks Voice and ignore my theory on the wee pee pee and hand guns, not true at all.
Nats85 3/22/2013 12:59:29 PM Report
Utah is also very close to the bottom of Mental Health in the United States as well. So you can't POSSIBLY think that the sole reason for decreased incidence of guns violence is directly linked to the ability of people to carry guns. Don't be so narrow minded.
Utah is also very close to the bottom of Mental Health in the United States as well. So you can't POSSIBLY think that the sole reason for decreased incidence of guns violence is directly linked to the ability of people to carry guns. Don't be so narrow minded.
everson 3/22/2013 1:01:33 PM Report
Bounder would that be Isle D'allumet or Chapeau. Sister in-law lives there
Bounder would that be Isle D'allumet or Chapeau. Sister in-law lives there
realitycheck 3/22/2013 1:02:03 PM Report
Damn f*ckin' right you should feel more safe! I want to see you have that happen to you and then maybe you'll change your tune.
You idiots wouldn't know self defense if it sh*t on your chest.
So you two hammers-in-a-bag probably think that police and government agencies are the only people who should carry, right?
Well what makes you think they are so qualified and I'm not? Have you seen some of these so called "officers?" Pretty sickening.
You guys should get a refill on your cialis and shovel your wives off the couch. That would keep you busy for the next while.
skip, yeah I've heard your Freudian babble. Just like him, you're a dolt.
I bet you think the same about men who drive big trucks or corvettes too? Jesus, what a bunch of incoherent babbling.
Voiceofreason? From the comments from you posted above, I don't think reason enters into it. You are a cut above the rabble only in your own mind.
Damn f*ckin' right you should feel more safe! I want to see you have that happen to you and then maybe you'll change your tune.
You idiots wouldn't know self defense if it sh*t on your chest.
So you two hammers-in-a-bag probably think that police and government agencies are the only people who should carry, right?
Well what makes you think they are so qualified and I'm not? Have you seen some of these so called "officers?" Pretty sickening.
You guys should get a refill on your cialis and shovel your wives off the couch. That would keep you busy for the next while.
skip, yeah I've heard your Freudian babble. Just like him, you're a dolt.
I bet you think the same about men who drive big trucks or corvettes too? Jesus, what a bunch of incoherent babbling.
Voiceofreason? From the comments from you posted above, I don't think reason enters into it. You are a cut above the rabble only in your own mind.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 1:03:08 PM Report
Exactly, but there are no gun controls in Utah. It should have a lot more shootings the way you talk about guns.
Exactly, but there are no gun controls in Utah. It should have a lot more shootings the way you talk about guns.
the_mage 3/22/2013 1:03:09 PM Report
Tell that to the kids in that school or those people in the movie theatre last year. It's always some idiot who lives with his mother or a bunch of morons who live by this piece of hemp paper saying they have a right to bear muskets.
Tell that to the kids in that school or those people in the movie theatre last year. It's always some idiot who lives with his mother or a bunch of morons who live by this piece of hemp paper saying they have a right to bear muskets.
Grump 3/22/2013 1:03:54 PM Report
Come on fellows you shouldn't bait voice as he can't help being one of rw's maroons and a bit of a social missfit as well. Skipper I think your theory is correct in his case which is why he likes those big guns. A couple of us stopped at a gravel pit on the Chapleau highway years ago to check out the sighting on our guns. We met a couple of Americans there who were doing the same thing. One was carrying a 358 Winchester magnum and the other a 375 H & H both of which were selling for about 3 to 4 times what my 30.06 Remington was. They were both complaining about their weapons not shooting straight. I watched them for a while and noticed they were flinching when they pulled the trigger. Kind of reminds me of Voice. LMAO.
Come on fellows you shouldn't bait voice as he can't help being one of rw's maroons and a bit of a social missfit as well. Skipper I think your theory is correct in his case which is why he likes those big guns. A couple of us stopped at a gravel pit on the Chapleau highway years ago to check out the sighting on our guns. We met a couple of Americans there who were doing the same thing. One was carrying a 358 Winchester magnum and the other a 375 H & H both of which were selling for about 3 to 4 times what my 30.06 Remington was. They were both complaining about their weapons not shooting straight. I watched them for a while and noticed they were flinching when they pulled the trigger. Kind of reminds me of Voice. LMAO.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 1:06:00 PM Report
Well, keep your opinions, because I'm tired of wasting time on here talking to people who are CONDITIONED to believe guns are bad.
Well, keep your opinions, because I'm tired of wasting time on here talking to people who are CONDITIONED to believe guns are bad.
Nats85 3/22/2013 1:06:20 PM Report
I'm not solely blaming guns you ignoramous! you are the one glamorizing the frickin things..lol. All I said was having EVERYONE carrying them was not the answer. And it isn't. Mental Health (which includes addictions people) is a major role in gun violence. Financial status and poverty of a certain city/state is also a crucial aspect when studying gun related offenses. Too many factors play a part for anyone to claim any ONE thing is the solution.
I'm not solely blaming guns you ignoramous! you are the one glamorizing the frickin things..lol. All I said was having EVERYONE carrying them was not the answer. And it isn't. Mental Health (which includes addictions people) is a major role in gun violence. Financial status and poverty of a certain city/state is also a crucial aspect when studying gun related offenses. Too many factors play a part for anyone to claim any ONE thing is the solution.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 1:07:06 PM Report
mage, so if someone actually had a concealed pistol in the theatre, maybe 70 people wouldn't be dead. Maybe 27 kids and teachers wouldn't be dead.
mage, so if someone actually had a concealed pistol in the theatre, maybe 70 people wouldn't be dead. Maybe 27 kids and teachers wouldn't be dead.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 1:08:06 PM Report
Right, so leave the people who follow the law and aren't to blame out of it!
Right, so leave the people who follow the law and aren't to blame out of it!
Nats85 3/22/2013 1:08:57 PM Report
VoR you can't deal well when you don't have the WHOLE picture thrown at you, EH?? (very "canadian" of me right? lol) Yes, go offline and do me a favour, study until your poor pewney brain is sore at all the factors and conditions that contribute to a certain state or city's gun violence rate. THEN come back and talk to me. :)
VoR you can't deal well when you don't have the WHOLE picture thrown at you, EH?? (very "canadian" of me right? lol) Yes, go offline and do me a favour, study until your poor pewney brain is sore at all the factors and conditions that contribute to a certain state or city's gun violence rate. THEN come back and talk to me. :)
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 1:09:08 PM Report
Good riddance to this "View Room." It's just a bunch of lefty bullshitters.
Good riddance to this "View Room." It's just a bunch of lefty bullshitters.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 1:09:58 PM Report
I just proved you wrong on every count Nats, you aren't listening....
I just proved you wrong on every count Nats, you aren't listening....
the_mage 3/22/2013 1:10:29 PM Report
Yeah and if somebody had a concealed pistol in the theatre there might be even more bloodshed.
Yeah and if somebody had a concealed pistol in the theatre there might be even more bloodshed.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 1:11:18 PM Report
he'd have to be a pretty bad shot to kills 70 people as well.
he'd have to be a pretty bad shot to kills 70 people as well.
skipper dave 3/22/2013 1:11:50 PM Report
PS the bullet hole needs expanding - I dropped in to see my old friend weed willy after being at the hotel for the afternoon. Him and I were making mellow on his back deck. Red Ranger you may have known Willy he had hair down to his shoulders and lived half way between Garson and Coniston. We were buddies as long as he had weed. Anyway out comes his latest acquisition an authentic civil war colt that had to be hand loaded with powder and shot. We set up a target beside the garage and my car (love of my life a 1968, 440 dodge dart swinger) He fired a few times than handed that beast over. Now with just a single hand I aimed at the target and fired. That thing kicked like a mule and it took five minutes for the smoke to clear. Sure enough there was a cleanly defined bullet hole in my trunk and we giggled for a half hour. Beer does that to me. So I now stay away from handguns, beside it takes twenty minutes to load the damn things.
PS the bullet hole needs expanding - I dropped in to see my old friend weed willy after being at the hotel for the afternoon. Him and I were making mellow on his back deck. Red Ranger you may have known Willy he had hair down to his shoulders and lived half way between Garson and Coniston. We were buddies as long as he had weed. Anyway out comes his latest acquisition an authentic civil war colt that had to be hand loaded with powder and shot. We set up a target beside the garage and my car (love of my life a 1968, 440 dodge dart swinger) He fired a few times than handed that beast over. Now with just a single hand I aimed at the target and fired. That thing kicked like a mule and it took five minutes for the smoke to clear. Sure enough there was a cleanly defined bullet hole in my trunk and we giggled for a half hour. Beer does that to me. So I now stay away from handguns, beside it takes twenty minutes to load the damn things.
the_mage 3/22/2013 1:12:07 PM Report
A pistol against many machine guns? Are you kidding me? There are no gun toting heros in the U.S.
A pistol against many machine guns? Are you kidding me? There are no gun toting heros in the U.S.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 1:13:18 PM Report
Machine guns? They were semi-auto deer rifles. Not fully automatic! Ignorance prevails, yet again!
Machine guns? They were semi-auto deer rifles. Not fully automatic! Ignorance prevails, yet again!
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 1:15:37 PM Report
No heroes, huh? I just posted a link the other day of a mother who shot an intruder to protect her child. The intruder had a knife, and the woman's husband had just passed away. So at least now the kid isn't an orphan and the scumbag is in the ground.
No heroes, huh? I just posted a link the other day of a mother who shot an intruder to protect her child. The intruder had a knife, and the woman's husband had just passed away. So at least now the kid isn't an orphan and the scumbag is in the ground.
skipper dave 3/22/2013 1:17:55 PM Report
Well thanks reality check - you sound like a good candidate for a support group I'm trying to form, you interested?
Well thanks reality check - you sound like a good candidate for a support group I'm trying to form, you interested?
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 1:22:21 PM Report
Since I am still a Canadian citizen and only a resident in my current location (yes, residents are allowed to carry) I think I'll print off the new petition to end all chief firearms offices in each province. I have Canadian friends who will be happy to sign it.
Since I am still a Canadian citizen and only a resident in my current location (yes, residents are allowed to carry) I think I'll print off the new petition to end all chief firearms offices in each province. I have Canadian friends who will be happy to sign it.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 1:34:55 PM Report
themage, yeah, the criminal. That's who, and rightfully so.
themage, yeah, the criminal. That's who, and rightfully so.
Grump 3/22/2013 1:35:27 PM Report
Bounder I'm working on a Holiday Inn Express in Pembroke just off 17 on 41 across from the Truck Stop and close to the Best Western. My Father was born in Otter Lake P.Q.. The family moved first to Thessalon around the turn of the century and then to the Soo in the 30's. I used to do a lot of work in the Ottawa/Montreal areas and have always enjoyed the Ottawa Valley and the folks down there. Come out to one of the summits and we can trade a few stories of the area.
Bounder I'm working on a Holiday Inn Express in Pembroke just off 17 on 41 across from the Truck Stop and close to the Best Western. My Father was born in Otter Lake P.Q.. The family moved first to Thessalon around the turn of the century and then to the Soo in the 30's. I used to do a lot of work in the Ottawa/Montreal areas and have always enjoyed the Ottawa Valley and the folks down there. Come out to one of the summits and we can trade a few stories of the area.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 1:41:30 PM Report
Well pt it this way, if one person is going to end up dead anyway, who deserves it more? The innocent guy who is going to get robbed or stabbed, or the pathetic robber?
Well pt it this way, if one person is going to end up dead anyway, who deserves it more? The innocent guy who is going to get robbed or stabbed, or the pathetic robber?
the_mage 3/22/2013 1:41:46 PM Report
Driving is not a right, it's a privilege.
In Canada, owning a gun is a privilege, not a right.
Is it safe to assume that it would be worse for this lady in survival if she had a knife or a baseball bat?
Driving is not a right, it's a privilege.
In Canada, owning a gun is a privilege, not a right.
Is it safe to assume that it would be worse for this lady in survival if she had a knife or a baseball bat?
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 1:44:07 PM Report
Alright, well it's been lovely chatting, but I think I'll go our for coffee, and bring my 1911 along for the ride too.
Alright, well it's been lovely chatting, but I think I'll go our for coffee, and bring my 1911 along for the ride too.
right wing 3/22/2013 1:44:36 PM Report
Grump
If you wish to have a go-around with me (no not fist fighting at the dump) just say so.
You don't have to insert others as being part of some imaginary "posse" and I have never needed any help in kicking your ass around the block.
I know you love being part of the "mob mentality" that often takes place on here and I am flattered that even though I had nothing to do with this go-around, you were thinking of me.
;)
Grump
If you wish to have a go-around with me (no not fist fighting at the dump) just say so.
You don't have to insert others as being part of some imaginary "posse" and I have never needed any help in kicking your ass around the block.
I know you love being part of the "mob mentality" that often takes place on here and I am flattered that even though I had nothing to do with this go-around, you were thinking of me.
;)
the_mage 3/22/2013 1:46:27 PM Report
Don't get me wrong, maybe I would have done the same, but if there was or wasn't a gun involved, maybe the outcomes would be different.
Don't get me wrong, maybe I would have done the same, but if there was or wasn't a gun involved, maybe the outcomes would be different.
the_mage 3/22/2013 1:48:36 PM Report
I think the U.S. is a great country and I know there are millions of responsible gun owners but I am disturbed by the idea of how much guns are owned illegally.
I think the U.S. is a great country and I know there are millions of responsible gun owners but I am disturbed by the idea of how much guns are owned illegally.
right wing 3/22/2013 1:57:35 PM Report
...and just because I love adding fuel to a fire.
Every debate has opposing views and you can't always claim them to be wrong.
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...and just because I love adding fuel to a fire.
Every debate has opposing views and you can't always claim them to be wrong.
http://tinyurl.com/bvjutlq
right wing 3/22/2013 1:59:35 PM Report
the_mage
No amount of gun laws will ever prevent criminals from obtaining guns.
They, as you pointed out, get the illegally.
It's along the same lines as the locks on your home are really only there for the honest people.
the_mage
No amount of gun laws will ever prevent criminals from obtaining guns.
They, as you pointed out, get the illegally.
It's along the same lines as the locks on your home are really only there for the honest people.
Just Curious 3/22/2013 2:01:43 PM Report
Or how many air-heads that have control of them. When the day comes I can't go for a coffee without a weapon just put me down, I don't want to live here anymore.
Or how many air-heads that have control of them. When the day comes I can't go for a coffee without a weapon just put me down, I don't want to live here anymore.
Wicket 3/22/2013 2:05:01 PM Report
Alrighty then, picture this scenario:
movie theatre filled with people, someone fires a gun, half the adults in the place also have legal guns, stand up and then.....how do you decide who to fire at....mayhem and more than one person gets injured or killed..but that is OK 'cause it was in self defence and protecting everyone from the original shooter who no one is really sure is....
ya, it's ok to have a concealed weapon.
Alrighty then, picture this scenario:
movie theatre filled with people, someone fires a gun, half the adults in the place also have legal guns, stand up and then.....how do you decide who to fire at....mayhem and more than one person gets injured or killed..but that is OK 'cause it was in self defence and protecting everyone from the original shooter who no one is really sure is....
ya, it's ok to have a concealed weapon.
right wing 3/22/2013 2:10:23 PM Report
Wicket
What "ifs" are an exercise in futility.
That is a completely improbable scenario
Wicket
What "ifs" are an exercise in futility.
That is a completely improbable scenario
Pink Peony 3/22/2013 2:18:53 PM Report
So VoR has controlled what will be talked about again. Bet it's sitting back watching and grinning with satisfaction while stroking it's ego.
So VoR has controlled what will be talked about again. Bet it's sitting back watching and grinning with satisfaction while stroking it's ego.
right wing 3/22/2013 2:20:18 PM Report
Some real scenarios...
* In 1997, assistant principal Joel Myrick used a handgun to stop fleeing school shooter Luke Woodham. Woodham, who had killed his mother that morning, murdered two students and wounded several others before Myrick, an Army reservist, rammed his car into Woodham’s and then forced him to the ground.
* At a 1998 shooting at a middle-school dance in a Pennsylvania restaurant, which left one teacher dead and three other people wounded, restaurant owner James Strand took out a shotgun and chased down the teen shooter before persuading him to give up his weapon.
* After 51-year-old teacher Carl Brown opened fire on a Miami welding shop in 1982, killing eight, a man nearby grabbed his gun, jumped in his car, and chased Brown as he fled on his bicycle. The pursuer fired what he said was a warning shot, striking Brown in the back.
* When a shooter entered an AT&T store in 2010 in a small New York town with a list of six employees he planned to kill and shot one of them, a shopper who was an off-duty officer drew his .40 caliber handgun and killed the man.
* A 2007 rampage in Trolley Square, Utah, was put to an end after an officer, who was on a date with his wife, engaged the man in a shootout. The off-duty officer kept the 18-year-old shooter pinned down until more police arrived and killed the shooter.
* In a 2006 school shooting, London Ivey, a school resource officer; and Russ LeBlanc, a former state trooper and driver’s ed teacher, confronted a Columbine-obsessed attacker in North Carolina who was firing at cars outside the school and had killed his father that day. Armed with his pistol, Ivey ordered the student to drop his weapons, and LeBlanc (who was unarmed) put him in handcuffs.
* A student who opened fire at the Appalachian School of Law in 2002 was brought down by a group of law students who were trained as police officers. Two of the students had armed themselves during the shooting and were involved in subduing the gunman.
You see there are plenty of real life scenarios.
Some real scenarios...
* In 1997, assistant principal Joel Myrick used a handgun to stop fleeing school shooter Luke Woodham. Woodham, who had killed his mother that morning, murdered two students and wounded several others before Myrick, an Army reservist, rammed his car into Woodham’s and then forced him to the ground.
* At a 1998 shooting at a middle-school dance in a Pennsylvania restaurant, which left one teacher dead and three other people wounded, restaurant owner James Strand took out a shotgun and chased down the teen shooter before persuading him to give up his weapon.
* After 51-year-old teacher Carl Brown opened fire on a Miami welding shop in 1982, killing eight, a man nearby grabbed his gun, jumped in his car, and chased Brown as he fled on his bicycle. The pursuer fired what he said was a warning shot, striking Brown in the back.
* When a shooter entered an AT&T store in 2010 in a small New York town with a list of six employees he planned to kill and shot one of them, a shopper who was an off-duty officer drew his .40 caliber handgun and killed the man.
* A 2007 rampage in Trolley Square, Utah, was put to an end after an officer, who was on a date with his wife, engaged the man in a shootout. The off-duty officer kept the 18-year-old shooter pinned down until more police arrived and killed the shooter.
* In a 2006 school shooting, London Ivey, a school resource officer; and Russ LeBlanc, a former state trooper and driver’s ed teacher, confronted a Columbine-obsessed attacker in North Carolina who was firing at cars outside the school and had killed his father that day. Armed with his pistol, Ivey ordered the student to drop his weapons, and LeBlanc (who was unarmed) put him in handcuffs.
* A student who opened fire at the Appalachian School of Law in 2002 was brought down by a group of law students who were trained as police officers. Two of the students had armed themselves during the shooting and were involved in subduing the gunman.
You see there are plenty of real life scenarios.
Grump 3/22/2013 2:20:50 PM Report
Voice surely it's time for you to dispense some Meds or take yours. The other thing you should figure out is that the world isn't wrong it's you that are wrong not the other way around. Give everyone a break now and go take you afternoon nap or Mommy will be cross with you.
Voice surely it's time for you to dispense some Meds or take yours. The other thing you should figure out is that the world isn't wrong it's you that are wrong not the other way around. Give everyone a break now and go take you afternoon nap or Mommy will be cross with you.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 2:23:55 PM Report
PP, yup. It's pretty easy. All it took was one comment... You know, because I'm never right, and everyone on here has to tell me that ;)
PP, yup. It's pretty easy. All it took was one comment... You know, because I'm never right, and everyone on here has to tell me that ;)
Wicket 3/22/2013 2:25:58 PM Report
right wing,,, I was using a scenario that had been previously suggested.
I don't expect to ever encounter any such scenario and feel quite safe in my own little world. To my knowledge there is no one in my family, immediate or extended, who even own guns except for one who lives out west and hunts. And that is just the way I like it.
right wing,,, I was using a scenario that had been previously suggested.
I don't expect to ever encounter any such scenario and feel quite safe in my own little world. To my knowledge there is no one in my family, immediate or extended, who even own guns except for one who lives out west and hunts. And that is just the way I like it.
Grump 3/22/2013 2:26:19 PM Report
rw I truly have to give you credit for having the largest jumped up ego that I have ever come across. I didn't imagine Voice as part of your posse, I had thought of him being more like a kissing cousin. Go figure.
rw I truly have to give you credit for having the largest jumped up ego that I have ever come across. I didn't imagine Voice as part of your posse, I had thought of him being more like a kissing cousin. Go figure.
right wing 3/22/2013 2:43:36 PM Report
Grump
Big ego, absolutely.
The difference between you and I is...I admit it
You too pal.
Grump
Big ego, absolutely.
The difference between you and I is...I admit it
You too pal.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 2:44:46 PM Report
Having not enough resources to sustain one's quality of life.
Having not enough resources to sustain one's quality of life.
Pink Peony 3/22/2013 2:49:08 PM Report
VoR, so if someone has to lower their standard of living, quality of life...they live in poverty?
VoR, so if someone has to lower their standard of living, quality of life...they live in poverty?
Pink Peony 3/22/2013 2:58:34 PM Report
VoR, I'll tell you where I'm heading with this. You said a few weeks ago that "poverty equates to criminal behavior". That was a comment that I took offense to. It's a comment based on ignorance. I live below the poverty line and I am not a criminal. Yes, I still have morals and values. I haven't always lived below the poverty line and have had to adjust my standard of living. That doesn't make me a criminal. You should really think about what you say before you start spouting off.
VoR, I'll tell you where I'm heading with this. You said a few weeks ago that "poverty equates to criminal behavior". That was a comment that I took offense to. It's a comment based on ignorance. I live below the poverty line and I am not a criminal. Yes, I still have morals and values. I haven't always lived below the poverty line and have had to adjust my standard of living. That doesn't make me a criminal. You should really think about what you say before you start spouting off.
bounder 3/22/2013 3:15:55 PM Report
What do you think about the new budget,baby clothes no tariff,sports equipment the same,now with an aging population you think they need that kind of relief.If your over sixty you probably dont have babies,or are you in need of sports equipment.
Old folks screwed again,turn in the thieves that tried to screw the governnment over living expenses,15%of what they tried to avoid in taxes.
What do you think about the new budget,baby clothes no tariff,sports equipment the same,now with an aging population you think they need that kind of relief.If your over sixty you probably dont have babies,or are you in need of sports equipment.
Old folks screwed again,turn in the thieves that tried to screw the governnment over living expenses,15%of what they tried to avoid in taxes.
everson 3/22/2013 3:15:58 PM Report
Grump I agree about rw, he is like that annoying mouthy rooster in the cartoon. All feathers and beak. Puffed up and a tad into himself.
Grump I agree about rw, he is like that annoying mouthy rooster in the cartoon. All feathers and beak. Puffed up and a tad into himself.
Chrissy79 3/22/2013 3:19:06 PM Report
To Bino,
You are right the Sault Star company can care less if we cancel.. I found they were very rude. They need to smarten up and start doing background checks on there workers... Before they hire the wrong person and something bad happens.. Who know in this city now with all the bad things goings on lately..
To Bino,
You are right the Sault Star company can care less if we cancel.. I found they were very rude. They need to smarten up and start doing background checks on there workers... Before they hire the wrong person and something bad happens.. Who know in this city now with all the bad things goings on lately..
Chrissy79 3/22/2013 3:22:25 PM Report
To Wicket
your right like this guy walks by my house everyday. I would love to give him a piece of my mind.. Stealing $25 from my mailbox. So discusting what is this world coming too.. Its Pathetic.. It makes it worse when the money was for my 9 year old daughter, she thought she would sell some of her old clothes that don't fit to make some spending money...
To Wicket
your right like this guy walks by my house everyday. I would love to give him a piece of my mind.. Stealing $25 from my mailbox. So discusting what is this world coming too.. Its Pathetic.. It makes it worse when the money was for my 9 year old daughter, she thought she would sell some of her old clothes that don't fit to make some spending money...
redranger 3/22/2013 4:22:54 PM Report
Oh wow Dave you brought back memories. You call him weed willy but we also called him Shuffleboard Bill and crazy Bill. He lived next door to Gerry Jones on Coniston Road. You are lucky only your trunk got shot.
Like most people in here, I am not afraid of guns and I am not afraid of a unarmed punk like VoR but I am deathly afraid of an idiot like VoR with a gun.
Oh wow Dave you brought back memories. You call him weed willy but we also called him Shuffleboard Bill and crazy Bill. He lived next door to Gerry Jones on Coniston Road. You are lucky only your trunk got shot.
Like most people in here, I am not afraid of guns and I am not afraid of a unarmed punk like VoR but I am deathly afraid of an idiot like VoR with a gun.
Grace 3/22/2013 4:24:22 PM Report
Sorry but as much as I can see your point about the $25 I fail to understand why you felt that placing cash in the mail box was a secure location.
If you had not seen the person in question remove the cash you would have the assumption that the person you left it there for had picked it up.
A household mailbox is not the securest location for financial transactions. Lesson learned?
Sorry but as much as I can see your point about the $25 I fail to understand why you felt that placing cash in the mail box was a secure location.
If you had not seen the person in question remove the cash you would have the assumption that the person you left it there for had picked it up.
A household mailbox is not the securest location for financial transactions. Lesson learned?
realitycheck 3/22/2013 4:26:12 PM Report
Yes, call the police. They are the ones you want to talk with. They are the ones who might get your daughter her money back. They will be able to find out who the guy is because his paper route must run down your street. Did he have a paper bag with him? Is that how you knew he delivered papers? Why was cash left in a mailbox? Shouldn't the person who left it there now have to pay again as the money wasn't left with the person who was supposed to get it? Did you know the money was placed there? If so, why didn't you go out and get it? The police will want to talk with the person who left it there. Did you actually see bills go into the person's hands? Hard to believe the money wouldn't have been in an envelope. You should contact the police but they might already know because you have made the theft public by posting here.
Yes, call the police. They are the ones you want to talk with. They are the ones who might get your daughter her money back. They will be able to find out who the guy is because his paper route must run down your street. Did he have a paper bag with him? Is that how you knew he delivered papers? Why was cash left in a mailbox? Shouldn't the person who left it there now have to pay again as the money wasn't left with the person who was supposed to get it? Did you know the money was placed there? If so, why didn't you go out and get it? The police will want to talk with the person who left it there. Did you actually see bills go into the person's hands? Hard to believe the money wouldn't have been in an envelope. You should contact the police but they might already know because you have made the theft public by posting here.
redranger 3/22/2013 4:37:25 PM Report
Seeing how our beloved Greyhounds are engaged in a struggle with Owen Sound, it seems appropriate to mention an interesting geographical fact.
On a map of Ontario, the south western part of the province has the shape of a baby elephant which has just tripped and is leaning on its trunk. Find the tail and locate what Dave calls the fundamental orifice .. voila..Owen Sound
Seeing how our beloved Greyhounds are engaged in a struggle with Owen Sound, it seems appropriate to mention an interesting geographical fact.
On a map of Ontario, the south western part of the province has the shape of a baby elephant which has just tripped and is leaning on its trunk. Find the tail and locate what Dave calls the fundamental orifice .. voila..Owen Sound
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 4:52:43 PM Report
no, I was just letting you know no one did. If I care I would have tried to defend myself, and clearly, I don't have to.
no, I was just letting you know no one did. If I care I would have tried to defend myself, and clearly, I don't have to.
cathyh 3/22/2013 5:00:24 PM Report
Bounder: I agree with you. Why doesn't the gov't reduce tuitions for students in college courses that are geared to the trades instead of telling provinces they have to chip in to make their scheme work? The fact that the infrstructure fund is for 10 years is laughable, reveryone knows that gov't have to maintain roads, waterways etc. The gov't is not "giving" us the money for these things we're paying for them w/our taxes. The senators should be fined or tried in a court of law for fraud. If you or I cheated on our taxes by falsifying returns we would be fined or tried in a court of law.
Bounder: I agree with you. Why doesn't the gov't reduce tuitions for students in college courses that are geared to the trades instead of telling provinces they have to chip in to make their scheme work? The fact that the infrstructure fund is for 10 years is laughable, reveryone knows that gov't have to maintain roads, waterways etc. The gov't is not "giving" us the money for these things we're paying for them w/our taxes. The senators should be fined or tried in a court of law for fraud. If you or I cheated on our taxes by falsifying returns we would be fined or tried in a court of law.
the_mage 3/22/2013 5:15:23 PM Report
LOL if we can all post here, then none of us may be in poverty.
I've always said, this is cheaper than a movie.
LOL if we can all post here, then none of us may be in poverty.
I've always said, this is cheaper than a movie.
redranger 3/22/2013 5:54:40 PM Report
VoR
..when did you become spokesman for this room. From what I read, nobody agrees with anything you say. In fact they make fun of you and your nonsense but you hang around displaying amazing masochistic tendencies.
VoR
..when did you become spokesman for this room. From what I read, nobody agrees with anything you say. In fact they make fun of you and your nonsense but you hang around displaying amazing masochistic tendencies.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 6:24:41 PM Report
There are a few who agree. It's just like anything else, a few winners and a whole bunch of losers.
There are a few who agree. It's just like anything else, a few winners and a whole bunch of losers.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 6:25:50 PM Report
Also, what you just said proves that this is merely a Liberal's hideout.
Also, what you just said proves that this is merely a Liberal's hideout.
flyhawk25 3/22/2013 6:28:15 PM Report
35 postings out of 121 today starting at 11:46 from one poster.
That must be a record.
Another Blue Room Wonder.
Does anyone remember the Gong Show?
Get the hook.
Or hope they turn the WiFi connection off in the ward.
35 postings out of 121 today starting at 11:46 from one poster.
That must be a record.
Another Blue Room Wonder.
Does anyone remember the Gong Show?
Get the hook.
Or hope they turn the WiFi connection off in the ward.
Grump 3/22/2013 7:41:03 PM Report
Sheesh I just had a terrible thought. Maybe Voice is our old friend Marissa in drag. He certainly is Prolific. LMAO
Sheesh I just had a terrible thought. Maybe Voice is our old friend Marissa in drag. He certainly is Prolific. LMAO
skipper dave 3/22/2013 8:05:05 PM Report
Grump or our border guard Trinculo - Didn't he converse gun-ese?
Grump or our border guard Trinculo - Didn't he converse gun-ese?
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 9:13:56 PM Report
http://www.thesudburystar.com/2013/03/21/lindsays-killer-released-from-youth-jail
Anyone who thinks this guy shouldn't rot and die in jail needs to have their head examined.
http://www.thesudburystar.com/2013/03/21/lindsays-killer-released-from-youth-jail
Anyone who thinks this guy shouldn't rot and die in jail needs to have their head examined.
Grump 3/22/2013 9:23:04 PM Report
Therein lies the problem Voice. A whole mixed bag of fruitcakes such as yourself walking around on the loose. Now anyone that that doesn't scare the hell out of is much farther gone than thee.
Therein lies the problem Voice. A whole mixed bag of fruitcakes such as yourself walking around on the loose. Now anyone that that doesn't scare the hell out of is much farther gone than thee.
Voiceofreason 3/22/2013 9:44:23 PM Report
Grump, considering you were the one who challenged someone to a fistfight at the dump, I think you would qualify before any of us.
Grump, considering you were the one who challenged someone to a fistfight at the dump, I think you would qualify before any of us.
debo 3/22/2013 10:28:31 PM Report
I haven't been on this site for quite some time ... MOTSOS still appears to be the prevalent coinage of the realm.
In regards your post of 6:28 Fly, is VoR's appearance somehow connected to the seeming absence of the Ol'Bser? Jest wundrin'.
I haven't been on this site for quite some time ... MOTSOS still appears to be the prevalent coinage of the realm.
In regards your post of 6:28 Fly, is VoR's appearance somehow connected to the seeming absence of the Ol'Bser? Jest wundrin'.
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