Spellchecker 3/17/2013 6:47:23 AM Report
Thanks go to Niigaanis for his kind words for my little hobby. It's enough to make a man consider coming out of retirement with a WORDS OF THE WEEK listing.
skipper dave 3/17/2013 7:42:39 AM Report
Good morning sweet Soo!
Spellchecker good to hear from you. What has happened to spring breakup since last weekend when you and I and the Harbour Master Dave stood at the Hilton Marina? I was so optimistic that winter was releasing her icy grip. I was so sorry to hear about having to put down one of your four footed little friends. My two dust mops with an attitude are still boarding at my sister in-laws till I get strong enough to bring them outside for their pees. I miss the Spell check, was it a gift from childhood? Spelling has always been one of my weakness thank gawd the little red squiggly line is active.
Happy St Pats and yes it's only in North America where they carry on the false myth of the celts drinking themselves to a stupor on this day, back in Erin it is a religious holiday and only quietly celebrated by of course attendance at mass. I am also looking forward to your families dark tomatoes at the dry dock this summer. Take care.
flyhawk25 3/17/2013 7:52:27 AM Report
Happy St. Patrick's Day indeed.The 'spring break up' aside, perhaps a better indicator of the spring is the fact that Gibertson's Pancake House is open.
I don't know what the snow depth is like on the island but here outside the city it seems deeper than I remember it for many years.
Niigaanis 3/17/2013 7:56:05 AM Report
Spellchecker., I just worry that due to the heat I seem to be making a ton of spelling mistakes..especially in chatting with family and friends back home.. though I did see an article that stated regardless of the spelling, people would "see/read the word" that was intended as long as it contained all of the letters...and that's what's amazing about the human brain...it can "automatically" spell check for you..lol
as well, I spend my entire work week ensuring that my spelling and grammerical structure is exact and it's nice not to have to worry over such things on my days off...lol
Though on the upside, I've seen some atrocious spelling from the many academic colleagues that I work with..thank goodness for our Adminstrative Assistants...and I always ensure to honour them on the appropriate day of the year
Niigaanis 3/17/2013 8:04:59 AM Report
Spellchecker and skipper dave -
I spent the afternoon wondering about Darwin harbour and chanced to see 4 or 5 sail boats and thought of you two and how you would enjoy seeing the sight..though one was powering along via gas engine closer to shore.
The ones that where further out to sea had a strong breeze moving them along..even took a couple of pics of them, also got a nice shot of the Australia naval ships tied up at the pier - I think they were the rapid response ships with just a "small" forward gun
Wisenheimer 3/17/2013 8:32:08 AM Report
Why don't you people just e-mail one another and stop inflicting the site with your constant babble. Stay with pithy comments about topical news items like it was designed for.
Niigaanis 3/17/2013 8:38:33 AM Report
Thank you...isn't that interesting
Spellchecker 3/17/2013 8:41:54 AM Report
Not any more, Wisenheimer. If you care to check it out you will see that all comments are welcome here now and news comments are supposed to be posted under the news stories.
How are your stocks doing? My ppl is doing quite well.
Can't wait to get the tomato crop started, skipper. First seeds get started next week.
Niigaanis 3/17/2013 8:42:12 AM Report
from one of the ones that loves to wander between brain cramps
Grump 3/17/2013 8:46:16 AM Report
Good morning all and happy St. Patricks Day. Skipper that drinking may well be a overstated myth. That said the Lads and Lassies I have met from there and the ones who worked for me in Saudi certainly wouldn't have to take a back seat to anyone I have seen. Mind you I have never been much of a drinker so I might be off a bit. Have a great day everyone.
Niigaanis 3/17/2013 8:48:20 AM Report
ooops, damn heat..should've been "and that from one of the ones that like to wander between brain cramps"
Grump 3/17/2013 8:51:01 AM Report
Niigaanis you have a way with words. That said you also instantly recognize one of the posse. Hang in there Wisen the other swampers will arrive soon enough and you can enjoy your little sand box.
Grump 3/17/2013 8:57:02 AM Report
Niigaanis, make sure you take extra salt, if you are fuzzy or feeling weak at times then you likely have sweated off too much salt. After two or three months your body will be adjusted to the heat and you will find it more comfortable.
Mr. Poster 3/17/2013 9:21:34 AM Report
Why don't you people just e-mail one another and stop inflicting the site with your constant babble. Stay with pithy comments about topical news items like it was designed for.
MAYBE THEY ARE IN LOOOOVVVVVVVVVVVVVE??
Niigaanis 3/17/2013 9:22:02 AM Report
thanks for the info Gump
drank a lot of fluids today (1.5 l) still once you stop sweating you know you are in trouble..walked about 10 kms today so it was expected...
though stopped at an outdoor pub celebrating st. paddy's day and had a couple pints of coopers pale ale...big mistake..heat and beer don't mix well..lmao
Niigaanis 3/17/2013 9:22:50 AM Report
oh and for the rest...That'll be fine Mary
old-cat33 3/17/2013 9:24:03 AM Report
Happy St. Patrick's Day everyone. I think legend has it that he piped all the rats out of Ireland with a little flute eh?
Might as well finish off the coffee and do the damn driveway. Flyhawk is right "I do believe that there is a wee bit more of snow this year laddies"!
Niigaanis 3/17/2013 9:41:42 AM Report
hey old cat - you wouldn't be a rust screw would ya?
from several of your posts I wondered if perhaps your were the goalie that tells the joke, you are a redneck and not in the degrogatory sense...as it's from the number of pucks that get by you..and your neck is red from the goal light coming on... lmao
Wisenheimer 3/17/2013 9:46:47 AM Report
Paul Rose the murderer of Pierre Laporte died at 69, on Thursday. His family and supporters read nationalistic poetry at his bedside. After serving 11 years in prison of a "life" sentence, Rose became active in public life as a union organizer, sociology student and columnist. True to form CBC Radio Canada intoned "the activist, political scientist and trade unionist has died."
No mention that he was a convicted murderer. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
right wing 3/17/2013 9:56:52 AM Report
The libs will now rain down a torrent upon you about how he paid his debt to society...11 years.
The grave of his victim is permanent.
CBC radio can actually make one want to vomit at times.
skipper dave 3/17/2013 10:00:17 AM Report
Niigaanis - Old Cat is a veritable legend in these parts when it comes to filling in between the pipes. Modesty does become him though. I've always had a fascination for goalies and catchers - very different people. Not lacking in courage for sure just not something I'd be volunteering for. Too much weenieism in this pretty face.
theprotector 3/17/2013 10:09:57 AM Report
hey tighty righties...how about an update on our local mp and what a great job he has been doing for the sault. Better yet the con gov. yep life sure is grand living under this DICtator. Why do you guys support such an oppressive govenment? Do you not care about anyone but yourselves?
RLE 3/17/2013 10:10:46 AM Report
right wing: Can't speak for the other Libs but this one always felt that Rose and the rest of that crew should have died in jail-preferably in solitary confinement.Burial should be an unmarked grave in a swamp.
Niigaanis 3/17/2013 10:12:56 AM Report
skipper if he is the one I eluded too then I think perhaps he is a legend in his own mind.lmfao.
sorry Bob, if it is indeed you, couldn't resist the poke at you. I'm sure you will figure out my identity if you are old cat or perhaps you wish your identity to remain a secret and would understand completely..
well got to be up at 6:30am and it's 11:40pm here so off to bed with me...chat with everyone next weekend and till then remeber "That'll be fine Mary"....
Brianne 3/17/2013 10:22:56 AM Report
Old cat, i'm off today if you want those mitts
Voiceofreason 3/17/2013 10:25:47 AM Report
Because, theprotector, the last time I voted Liberal, we got the Firearms Act. THAT IN ITSELF is oppressive enough for 100 years.
old-cat33 3/17/2013 10:32:59 AM Report
Skipper: Thanks for the kind words. As for you Niiganis: I've stopped enough rubber over the years to make a French safe for en elephant ten times over!...LOL.
Skipper: I played hockey in a men's league across the river and one of those guys is a sailor on the Ice Breaker Mackinaw.Now my question was to him.Why did they name the new breaker the same name as the old one? I thought it was bad luck for you sailors to re name your vessels with the same name?
And you know what? I forgot what he answered me with? See Nigaanis,way to many wrist shots off the forehead!..LOL.
old-cat33 3/17/2013 10:38:20 AM Report
Brianne: OK Thanks,But for the rest of the day I'm going to be busier than a new brides pajama's. BUT! I'm heading to the Hounds game so how about 5:00PM..ish? Or you say when.
JustMe1234567 3/17/2013 10:38:33 AM Report
Not sure if anyone is following the Stubenville rape case out of the states.
2 of the football players were just found guilty of rape.
Big Bad Bob 3/17/2013 10:40:43 AM Report
I agree with Weisenheimer in two respects :
1. It would be a good idea for certain posters to just e-mail one another and stop inflicting the site with their constant babble. (I would simply add some of his gratuitous nastiness to the list of nominees.)
2. The disappearance of murderers like Paul Rose is certainly good riddance to bad rubbish.
right wing 3/17/2013 10:43:24 AM Report
An exchange of words with a Harper hater, tempting but...
Your sanctimonious sense of superiority along with the smug indignation at any fact or logic would make it a complete waste of time.
I'd rather push bamboo slivers under my nails.
right wing 3/17/2013 11:04:22 AM Report
I had been following that case.
Guilty verdicts are good to see.
Glad that the Judge saw through the cover ups and attempts at shifting blame onto the victim.
This girl brought charges against home town football heroes, a very tough thing to do.
Guilty verdicts in these cases give courage to all women that have been a victim of sexual assault but are afraid to press charges.
Notice how smug and bored expressions on a perpetrators face can suddenly turn to shock and tears.
realitycheck 3/17/2013 11:12:59 AM Report
Outside of family members and friends, I don't think you will find many of either the right or the left who will mourn for Rose. I know this independent won't. He should have done 25 years at the minimum, as most who participate in a premeditated murder in this country do.
Brianne 3/17/2013 11:29:39 AM Report
Ok Old cat, same place. I can be there for 5 pm.
Wisenheimer 3/17/2013 11:34:00 AM Report
Spelly .. Friday I took a little off the top of my winners ... TRP, Telus, Rogers, and BCE, on the advice of my CFP. He believes the market is in for a pretty good wash, out before heading back up. "never hurts to take profits even if you leave some money on the table."
right wing 3/17/2013 11:35:21 AM Report
That is the way it should be but CBC radio sure took a different outlook.
The Canadian justice system needs a tightening up.
The 25 is no chance of parole for a minimum of 25 years, whats wrong with life with no chance of parole for a premeditated cold blooded killing.
right wing 3/17/2013 11:40:40 AM Report
Then there's the kooks....
CTV NEWS MONTREAL--Convicted terrorist Paul Rose, who died Thursday of a stroke, is best known as an architect of the 1970 October Crisis, which saw political kidnappings and murder and troops flooding into Quebec. Now a member of the provincial legislature wants to honour him.
Amir Khadir, one of two members of the pro-sovereignty Quebec solidaire, promises to table a motion in the national assembly to that effect next week.
skipper dave 3/17/2013 12:07:35 PM Report
Old cat - perfectly fine to re-use the name of a ship, just not to change it while still active. Superstition.
Voiceofreason 3/17/2013 12:38:09 PM Report
Theprotector, in regards to if I care about anyone but myself; I care about my family, close friends, and myself. I don't care about native aboriginals, people who abuse the system or bums to name a few. I vote for what affects ME. I do not vote for you. You vote for yourself. That is how a democracy works.
Grump 3/17/2013 12:38:11 PM Report
rw well to dent your Liberal, lefty crap even farther, I would have seen him do the full bore period and that nice Moslem mpp should have his ass shipped home for promoting that kind of crap. Now about Steve losing another Cabinet Minister for cheating. Can we have your quote on that? Likely not as I'm sure it's some Liberal/lefty plot to discredit your hero.
Spellchecker 3/17/2013 12:51:51 PM Report
The names of the Great Lakes freighters get changed frequently.
skipper dave 3/17/2013 1:03:31 PM Report
Spellchecker absolutely right.
Bad Dawg 3/17/2013 1:19:58 PM Report
There are 1500 newspapers, 1000 magazines, 9000 radio staions, 2400 television channels,2400 publishers...... all owned by only 3 corperations. hahahaha
JustMe1234567 3/17/2013 1:33:47 PM Report
What are the 3 corps Dawg?
Just interested to know.
everson 3/17/2013 2:47:08 PM Report
rw to be honest Harper has done absolutely nothing for Canada, In fact Canada has slipped to 11 place and Estonia beating us. With the malaise this country has been under,,,,,,time for a change. Our debt and deficit is killing us. Our quality of life is not like the past. Rebutt rw..with proof
mallet 3/17/2013 3:35:52 PM Report
11th place in what? Soccer, tiddlewinks what catagary are we talking about? I am going to ask you if you have ever watched a programme on tv called "how it's made" I watched candy canes being made the other night, guess what, I think I saw 4 people, the rest of the making was mechanised, I wonder what happened to the rest of the people who were engaged in the making years ago went to?? You know you cannot put the blame at any one persons door, this has been a slow process from the start of the cotton jenny, and if you do not believe me go to Crappy Tire, they have a serve yourself area now for checkout, you think that is not the demise or rather the start of the checkout cashiers? You want to blame Harper for that too??
mallet 3/17/2013 3:53:03 PM Report
What's your take on the Cyprus financial situation? Do you think the Tax/Levy on bank depositors money is going to fly, or do you think this is one government that will say F you to the bankers in ?? well Europe somewhere. I think I would be pretty ticked off if the government just said we are taking this percentage of your money in the bank,, and we will give you shares in the bankrupt company to replace that money... kinda goes over like a lead balloon with most people there it seems..
Grump 3/17/2013 4:30:13 PM Report
Mallet how about in prestige. How many of his MPs, Cabinet Ministers and Senators have been under a cloud or had to resign to date. The latest won his rding by 72 votes but overspent by over 50,000.00. How many votes do you suppose 50 grand buys. All in all it has shaped up to a pretty sleazy performance. This news travel around the world pretty quickly and we are starting to look the same as many of the more corrupt countries.
Bill_the_Cat 3/17/2013 4:51:04 PM Report
mallet: Cyprus is a done deal. The UK will take measures to protect the savings of UK service personnel and families. The idea was to raid the numerous Russian corporations that have HQed in Cyprus. So much for that.
I can imagine many governments are looking at this with interest.
Bill_the_Cat 3/17/2013 4:53:24 PM Report
Luckily I have long since closed my Cyprus accounts.
mallet 3/17/2013 4:53:28 PM Report
I don't know G, how many do you suppose? Lets say they won by, I don't know, let's make it easy say a thousand votes, ( I'm not a math wiz) so divide the 1000 into 50,000.oo, by my calculations that works out at $50 bucks a vote. I guess in a high unemployment area that would be welcome, but to be honest, since I have been voting, no-one has ever made the offer! Not sure if any firms/companies would have enough people to be influenced by 50 Grand as a bonus, but since we are only talking 50 bucks a vote, I think you would be hard pressed. As for advertising, let me see, how much is it a minute during the Super Bowl, maybe enough time to say "Hi", locally, not sure how many ads you can put in one paper before someone uses it in the outhouse.
However if they have overspent then they would have to pay back to the elections commision twice (X2) what they overspent, but to be very honest I would not think it would matter a lot and as you are campaigning are you really worried and concerned with the day to day contributions? Be honest now Grump..
right wing 3/17/2013 4:57:54 PM Report
Give you head a real hard shake...
Do you really want to have an exercise in which party has had members that faltered and how many.
Have at it bud.
I don't reply to you or any of the Harper hating crowd as their is no point.
You hate Harper...I get it.
mallet 3/17/2013 4:59:12 PM Report
Now prestige.. That's like a fiddlers elbow, goes up and down depending on who what and where you ask. Some who has got a beef it goes down, you done them a good turn and it goes up, the what, you gave them money, you didnt give them money, where well that depends on the who and the what. The person you just done your out of town work for, likes the job you did, up your prestige goes.. they think it was a load of crap and down it goes, you know that better than I do G...
right wing 3/17/2013 5:02:53 PM Report
Penashue will run again in a by-election.
right wing 3/17/2013 5:04:29 PM Report
Look out Canadians are running for the border cause we have lost prestige...hey Grump, how about a LMAO.
mallet 3/17/2013 5:10:06 PM Report
Bill the Cat...
Never had much money when I was there, and the locals which included Archbishop Markarios were not particulary friendly at that time. As times changed never went back as other places had more appeal and less bad memories. I like a bank I can go and get my hands on someone, not literally but at least I can see, not at the end of a letter in a wastebin or a email with delete at the end. I just pity the expats who live there and have their pensions paid into them for living expensives, but I guess there's a price to be paid for the warm and sun somewhere along the line...
BIG BROTHER 3/17/2013 5:13:39 PM Report
Harper is terrible for Canada. We are losing credibility and sovereignty by the day, with him at the helm. Statesmanship is attending leader's funerals around the world. He doesn't have it! Trouble is, the liberals haven't given us a true alternative. I'm hoping Trudeau steps up, but he does seem young and a little naive.
Here's a sampling of Harper's decisions taking us down roads we shouldn't go down. Thankfully, this happened pre Harper majority. He has his foot soldiers marching time to his beat and his beat is way off time...IMO
right wing 3/17/2013 5:18:55 PM Report
How surprising a Jan 29, 2007 link to an article on Iraq from Big Bro.
right wing 3/17/2013 5:24:07 PM Report
...with a bit of "Bush" thrown in for good measure.
BIG BROTHER 3/17/2013 5:27:48 PM Report
And rw comes back with his same lame retort. No substance, but a smoke screen. If you can't see the significance of that article rw, you are horribly lost in partisanship.
Penashue is going to run again! He shouild be playing drop the soap with Bubba. If he erred, that would mean he can't read and should be back in school with Duffy, Wallin and co. Seems there are many Cons. who can't read simple instructions.
right wing 3/17/2013 5:33:50 PM Report
No I don't see the significance of that article although I completely understand why you do.
You are one of those as described in the second paragraph...and your lame link don't mean squat.
This is why your type hate Harper so much.
“He’s solid, solid, solid.” Ipsos Reid president Darrell Bricker said of the prime minister.
Bricker said that despite the “outrage” and “contempt” that political critics in Ottawa routinely level at Harper, the only Canadians affected are those who already didn’t like the prime minister.
Bill_the_Cat 3/17/2013 5:36:24 PM Report
mallet: agreed. My first 'visit' was some 20 years ago. The locals are much less friendly now. Surpisingly, Turkish Cyprus is much more friendly.
My visits are short now: mostly in and out of Akrotiri
BIG BROTHER 3/17/2013 5:38:11 PM Report
The US and world economy is in mess because of some of Bush's policies. That is what makes the article poignant. And Canada isn't quite what Flaherty and Harper have been bragging about.
Hell, Flaherty couldn't predict a drop in revenue for the budget. Wow, he's surprised!! A blind person could see the world economy is still in the dumper.
BIG BROTHER 3/17/2013 5:39:49 PM Report
...and ipsos reid should qualify that.
That would be 65% percent who didn't vote for him!!
right wing 3/17/2013 5:42:06 PM Report
"The US and world economy is in mess because of some of Bush's policies"
Could I drop a dead horse at your door for you.
In case you forgot Obama the fix all has been at the helm long enough.
Unfortunately he has run the debt so far up the pole you can's see the flag anymore.
...and you accuse me of smoke and mirror.
I'll have to give you a good old Gump LMAO on that one.
BIG BROTHER 3/17/2013 5:42:08 PM Report
Harper gets 35% of the popular vote, acts like the so-called dictator Chavez and you think that's just peachy and Chavez is a bad ass!!
That is called blind faith.
right wing 3/17/2013 5:44:27 PM Report
It doesn't matter dunkoff, what don't you understand about a three party system and split voting...how do you think (if you do) the Libs stayed in so long.
BIG BROTHER 3/17/2013 5:45:04 PM Report
Explain Greece's problem. It's the right wing backing wall street, the culprits who took down the world economy in the first place. Hell, explain Canada's mess.
Still can't explain why it would have been good for Canada to be in Iraq.
Too much explaining to do....it's Obama!!ahahahaha No, it's Chavez...no, Castro!!
right wing 3/17/2013 5:46:20 PM Report
Wow, it gets better...in true lefty fashion he is now comparing Harper with one of his personal heroes...Chavez!
Go Big Bro...Go!
BIG BROTHER 3/17/2013 5:48:18 PM Report
I totally get it. I also get that it was Chretien's steady hand that kept Canada out of Iraq and from following Dubya over the financial cliff. Not Harper. Hell, we'd truly be sunk with Harper's policies then and we will be hurting far into the future with his rabid right wing policies.
35% and it's OK to be a dictator. Even Chavez had better numbers than Harper!!
Bill_the_Cat 3/17/2013 5:48:18 PM Report
bb: how was Canada in Iraq during the Bush Jr era? Could you provide an OOB?
BIG BROTHER 3/17/2013 5:49:15 PM Report
Same lame retort. Shoot the messenger cause I'm too stupid to pick up on what is really going on!!
BIG BROTHER 3/17/2013 5:53:41 PM Report
Bill, go back to sleep. I never said that, but I'm sure you think I did.
right wing 3/17/2013 5:54:47 PM Report
Explain "it" to you Big Bro...
Well it goes like this...Chavez was great, Castro was God.
The Dems backing Fannie and Freddie had Zero, Zip, Nada to do with the crash.
All corporations and anything on Wall St. is evil.
Bush is Satan or at least the child of Cheney who is Satan.
Saddam was better in power.
The Dems voted for the war before they voted against it...so they get a pass.
You still live in Canada but hate it cause it's not like Venezuela or Cuba, or any other socialist country.
Bill_the_Cat 3/17/2013 5:56:06 PM Report
bb: my misread. Mea culpa. Carry on with your debates against rw.
Left vs right....soo sleeeeepy.......
BIG BROTHER 3/17/2013 5:56:20 PM Report
Makes more sense than anything else you said, so far.
Bill_the_Cat 3/17/2013 6:02:16 PM Report
BB: Setting aside the false WMD thesis. I recall many people saying Canada ought to have entered into GWII for solidarity reasons--all Commonwealth countries of note were there (sorry Kiwis). I don't subscribe to this PoV, but there ya go. It was sufficient to send frigates to relieve the RN from escort duty.
right wing 3/17/2013 6:07:04 PM Report
"Chretien's steady hand"
It was Chretien's steady hand that got caught in a huge adscam cookie jar ripping the taxpayers for tens of millions.
It was Chretien's steady hand that spent one billion on a gun registry that was to cost 22 million.
It was Chretien's steady hand that kept our Military's equipment in the dark ages.
It was Chretien's steady hand that misused E.I. funds to balance the budget.
I could go on but I've had enough of that Liberal "steady hand"....as did the voters.
flyhawk25 3/17/2013 6:11:13 PM Report
I am waiting for one combat veteran to come forward and say that Canada should have entered either Iraq or Afghanistan.
Then I would like to hear from one wounded/killed veteran family member of an armed service member to say that they are pleased with how they or their family member was treated since this century began.
I've already heard from the computer cowboys/John Wayne wannabees.
I know how tough you are.
right wing 3/17/2013 6:13:40 PM Report
...Chretien put Canada in Afghanistan.
Just Curious 3/17/2013 6:18:26 PM Report
Same old,same old.... Did any of you change anything??? Scroll,scroll,scroll... Sootoday could shut this column down and just reprint for a couple of months and nobody would notice any difference....:)
Bill_the_Cat 3/17/2013 6:24:00 PM Report
Fly: as to the treatment of serving soldiers and families, I refer you to Kipling's 'Tommy'. This century is no different than any other. The US does a better job of supporting their service personnel--of course that's a relative statement.
For AFG and IRQ, hindsight is 20/20. Those two theatres are not alone in being dodgy interventions. The same can be said of the Balkans, especially Kosovo. A complete and ongoing waste of resources.
Brianne 3/17/2013 6:32:24 PM Report
Old cat ! Thank you !
right wing 3/17/2013 6:45:00 PM Report
At least we were spared one of those intellectual all encompassing, safe and easy to make, "I hate war" statements.
Bill_the_Cat 3/17/2013 6:48:39 PM Report
War is bad, m'kay.
right wing 3/17/2013 7:05:50 PM Report
Military families understand why they are in the military.
They serve without hesitation and believe in what they do.
I will never understand that kind of courage and I would never question it or those that put on the uniform.
The IAVA in the U.S. (Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America) has a membership 200,000 strong.
They help each other and their families.
From lobbying the government for better veteran support to education funds for veterans they stand together.
They all are proud of their service to their country in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
I don't need any of them or their families coming forward and explaining anything.
They have already done far more than the rest of us in ensuring our freedom that is never free for them.
Grump 3/17/2013 7:13:01 PM Report
Big Brother save your breath as rw and crowd have their heads buried so far up their butts that a clear thought couldn't get through that right wing bias with a diamond drill. When even Mallet starts to defend more of the cheating and lieing carried on by this gov't as defenseable I really give up. Save your breath as Trudeau will sweep this lot out in a couple of years. We will then have to listen to the crying and nashing of neo-con teeth then.
Bill_the_Cat 3/17/2013 7:22:13 PM Report
RW: The US learned from Vietnam; their programs are more advanced than other english-speaking countries. That's not to say there aren't problems. It's unheard of to be called 'Baby killer' in the US. The same cannot be said of Canada/UK.
The opinion of a combat vet as to any conflict is no more relevant than any other citizen--change the politicians if military intervention isn't your style.
right wing 3/17/2013 7:23:47 PM Report
"We will then have to listen to the crying and nashing of neo-con teeth then."
If, and that's a big if, that happens it will be a refreshing change from the never ending crying and gnashing (thought I would spell it correct) of Liberal teeth that we have been hearing since the conservative win.
Bill_the_Cat 3/17/2013 7:25:27 PM Report
grump: What about we paleocons? We'd be quite happy to send the neocons back over to the left side of the spectrum where they belonged historically.
right wing 3/17/2013 7:26:54 PM Report
"The opinion of a combat vet as to any conflict is no more relevant than any other citizen"
I would strongly disagree with you there Bill.
I am however interested in your philosophy on that statement.
right wing 3/17/2013 7:39:34 PM Report
I'd say what the U.S. learned from Vietnam was how to get back at Russia via an easier venue when they armed the Afghans.
Unfortunately that backfired as what they really accomplished was emboldening a fighting force that hated the U.S. as much as Russia.
Came back to bite them on the ass big time.
Bill_the_Cat 3/17/2013 7:44:45 PM Report
RW: The statement isn't meant as soldier bashing. I have found that largely because of US influence, there is an undue trend towards lionizing of soldiers as a class.
A modern professional army is made up of people who join for a variety of reasons:
What the Service can do for me.
Sense of adventure types
Need a job.
Need an education.
Really, really need housing.
Single moms. (Especially USAF)
Immigrants seeking advancement (cf Uncle Sam's Mexican Corps).
Nothing wrong with any of those things. With the exception of single moms, those are historical reasons for joining the military.
All this to say that they are normal Joes and Janes doing their job. They are not international relations experts, economic experts, etc. Many belong to gangs--or are otherwise minimally educated. Beyond needing to be smart enough to learn a weapons-system and basic tactics, that's sufficient to be fit for purpose.
mallet 3/17/2013 7:47:26 PM Report
No, No, I don't defend, I just said that there is a price to pay, and being honest I don't think any of them would not do the same if they thought for a moment they could get away with it. This guy and a few others have been caught and are paying the price, and if you really read what I said they would have to pay back twice what they got caught overspending. I still contend that we are better off than a lot of other places, wether it was done wrong or not is another discussion. As for the 35% that voted for Harper when you divide it between 3 main parties and the fringe lot they still got the most, so what is the bitch there. As for Chavez, I didnt see Cameron there or Obama, so whats the deal with Harper not being there, none of them were there when Ghadafi or Hussien were buried either, they were leaders were they not. How about Kim Jon Il?? Nope none of them were there either. We are lucky we have a system whereby we can snipe at our P.M. there are a heck of a lot of "DEMOCRATIC" countries that you CANNOT do that. Do I agree with everything that the government does, Certainly NOT, do I approve of some YES, do I think they could do better CERTAINLY, but unlike some other parties they recognize that we do not have the MONEY to do everything at once. I forget where I saw it now, but I am sure that Everson or Brianne will know where it is, The Old Giant Mine in yellowknife is spewing arsnic and mercury and various other poisons and needs to be cleaned up soon, but it's going to cost 400 odd million and the Taxpayer is on the hook for it because successive governments did not make sure the companies had a bond to cover clean up and that was Conservative AND Liberal, thats 50/50 right!!
right wing 3/17/2013 7:57:54 PM Report
I did not take it to be soldier bashing.
I would agree somewhat on your take of why some join the army but education levels do change with which sector you join as does the age group.
i.e., air force has an average education level of college for enlisted and a higher level for officers.
Average age of enlisted is 29 while officers are 35.
That being said I still don't agree your statement on opinion.
Bill_the_Cat 3/17/2013 8:03:11 PM Report
RW: The why's and how's of war are for civil society to figure out. The soldier is only one part of that.
right wing 3/17/2013 8:03:58 PM Report
I tried to explain the three way vote split earlier to a leftie.
Good luck, they don't seem to grasp that getting 35 or 40 percent of the vote is the majority of the vote(s) that count.
right wing 3/17/2013 8:05:34 PM Report
Yes I know that but the soldier is the one that always pays the ultimate price.
Thus the reason I value their opinion more than any other.
right wing 3/17/2013 8:13:09 PM Report
...and in a truly civil society (world) we would not have wars.
We are still evolving and learning while unfortunately still paying the high price of human life.
Pink Peony 3/17/2013 8:13:15 PM Report
Speaking of soldiers, I love this song from We Were Soldiers.
Bill_the_Cat 3/17/2013 8:18:20 PM Report
RW: The soldier/airman/sailor knows his job. Not international relations.
Asking a vet to describe war is would be akin to trying to describe sex to a virgin.
What does experience of war lend to the discussion about the propriety of the conflict? What does a civvie learn? That it's dirty, lonely, smelly, boring (until it's not); that it really sucks to spend 4mo(USAF), 6mo(CAN/UK), 12mo and up(US army and ISAF staff officers) in a sh!thole where you experience things that will probably give you nightmares until you die?
I'm not trying to be combative, but I'm thinking of Fly's thought (if I interpreted it right) that the veracity of a conflict is best determined by those who have to fight it.
mallet 3/17/2013 8:21:11 PM Report
For Something completely different...
The Archbishop of Druban one of the Cardinals involved with the conclave, Cardinal Napier says in an interview that Paedophillia is not criminal it's an illness. Oh wow!! has this new Pope got a job on his hands, how is he going to change much with this sort of deflection of wrong doing?? I have no time for kiddy didlers and agree with some jurisdictions that the cheapest method is the best, costs about a penny and you decide which side of the head you want the the gun fired from.. I just do not understand where the Catholic Church finds these people...
Bill_the_Cat 3/17/2013 8:28:47 PM Report
RW: To be sure, many wars would not have been fought if we'd asked the soldiers--I'm looking at you WW1. But the initial stages of WW2 were no clearer morally. Poland was not of clear national interest to the Allies, and most Tommies were not thrilled with another war with Germany.
flyhawk25 3/17/2013 9:15:32 PM Report
Bill...sorry if you misunderstood.
My point was how does our country handle our armed services and our veterans?
I am accusing Harper's government especially of treating those who serve(d) badly.
My question - before the attempt to preempt it by some others - was how do the people affected by government policy view their treatment by our politicians?
I already know how the computer warriors and Harper Fan Club feels and that has been reinforced today.
Bill_the_Cat 3/17/2013 9:36:16 PM Report
Fly: No worries, thank you for the clarification. Governments of all stripes fail to see the effect of their policies on those on whom the burden falls. There is a reason why so many volunteer organizations exist to help service members and their families: failure by governments to allocate resources. In this, the US is head and shoulders above Canada: a visit to Walter Reed is an eye-opener, despite its many well publicized problems.
Bill_the_Cat 3/17/2013 9:43:34 PM Report
Fly: Service personnel trust no government to treat them well. In Canada/UK they have been ill served by governments of all stripes. Whilst the Left (or new-left aka Labour) likes to send troops overseas, it is the Right who slash budgets equally as assiduously.
I'm obviously speaking from the Can/UK perspective.
Perhaps it is less a government-military relationship than a civilian-military relationship.
everson 3/17/2013 10:03:27 PM Report
on December 4th, 2012 Canada had 2.5 MILLION Protected rivers and lakes. On December 5thCanada had 82 protected lakes and rivers. Thanks Again Harper. Every moment you deem yourself useless to Canada. Facts don't lie.
everson 3/17/2013 10:06:48 PM Report
Mallet we are in such a standing for increased poverty, our education , healthcare, jobs. I checked the facts and according to the list we are lagging behind in industrial progress.
everson 3/17/2013 10:11:38 PM Report
Rw just keep on liking Harper, just shows you what you are, a dreamer. move on or roll over change is coming. We the people want a government that is transparent , a parliament that is accountable on paper. Harper stop spending MY tax dollars on your advertisements. They mean diddly to the poor unemployed worker struggling .
everson 3/17/2013 10:17:57 PM Report
Looks like Bush 3 wants to throw in the towel. did we not have enough of 2. Wars, WMD, Debts, and the WHOLE WORLD meltdown in the banking system. He was and will always be the worst president ever,
Brianne 3/17/2013 10:19:56 PM Report
rw, i serenade you !
Resident 3/17/2013 10:32:30 PM Report
r.w. Your 8:05 & 8:13 posts are (to my mind) liberal left wing thinking! I'm very surprised and pleased that you have expressed such compassion!
Voiceofreason 3/17/2013 11:16:42 PM Report
Resident, ask any right wing Canadian/American and they will tell you they listen to the soldier before anyone.
For his second post, I will let you decipher one line
"Si vis pacem, parabellum."
Retreaded 3/17/2013 11:24:51 PM Report
The Greyhonds lost tonight...not even close. SHORT PLAYOFF SEASON...AGAIN ???
Resident 3/17/2013 11:46:39 PM Report
VoR: That's why the harper government is treating them soooo well?