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Niigaanis 3/15/2013 5:43:51 AM Report
just reviewed this weeks posts and all I can say is wow...some really need to find themselves a hobby or part time job....
it never ceases to amaze that the more profilic posters also seem to have a bit of an inflated ego...
puffin' and huffin' themselves all up to impress...hmm not yet sure who they are attempting to impress but man just a lot of hot air IMHO
....do some of you at least provide a shovel to go with the BS you so freely dispense?
... all I can say to the ladies on here who are subjected to the endless manly chest pounding and testerone laden BS that goes on daily , not all of us are that wrapped up in our own self importance... have a good day ladies and play nice in the sandbox
just reviewed this weeks posts and all I can say is wow...some really need to find themselves a hobby or part time job....
it never ceases to amaze that the more profilic posters also seem to have a bit of an inflated ego...
puffin' and huffin' themselves all up to impress...hmm not yet sure who they are attempting to impress but man just a lot of hot air IMHO
....do some of you at least provide a shovel to go with the BS you so freely dispense?
... all I can say to the ladies on here who are subjected to the endless manly chest pounding and testerone laden BS that goes on daily , not all of us are that wrapped up in our own self importance... have a good day ladies and play nice in the sandbox
skipper dave 3/15/2013 5:49:14 AM Report
Good morning sweet Soo!
Hey March break winding down and our company for the week returns to home base. My wife is exhausted, I don't know where she gets the energy. Unfortunately I get to sit on the side lines and watch. My time is taken up with half a day at SAH oncology unit then home for a short nap. My load is ever decreasing - I'm finished my thirty radiation treatments now wrapping up Chemo, should be finished in june with a full body Ct scan to see the results . I've asked for the results now but just get strange looks. Then back into O.R. to reverse my ileostomy. Ain't life great? I'll be glad to get back to work. The biggest challenge has been being confined to the house and trying not to live in my disease. I did a lot of apologizing to my loved ones for being difficult to live with in the beginning but hopefully have turned that around by coming to appreciate their support and not make it harder than it is on them. They have been great. I know that without them in my life I would not have been allowed to come home from the Barn. I can't imagine trying to handle this alone. So I leave my keyboard and sneak back to bed to snuggle beside the best kept secret in the Sweet Soo! her former spouse has turned out to be my best friend he just doesn't know it. Best step kids in the world (they actually like me) and best partner in the world, doesn't get much better than that.
Good morning sweet Soo!
Hey March break winding down and our company for the week returns to home base. My wife is exhausted, I don't know where she gets the energy. Unfortunately I get to sit on the side lines and watch. My time is taken up with half a day at SAH oncology unit then home for a short nap. My load is ever decreasing - I'm finished my thirty radiation treatments now wrapping up Chemo, should be finished in june with a full body Ct scan to see the results . I've asked for the results now but just get strange looks. Then back into O.R. to reverse my ileostomy. Ain't life great? I'll be glad to get back to work. The biggest challenge has been being confined to the house and trying not to live in my disease. I did a lot of apologizing to my loved ones for being difficult to live with in the beginning but hopefully have turned that around by coming to appreciate their support and not make it harder than it is on them. They have been great. I know that without them in my life I would not have been allowed to come home from the Barn. I can't imagine trying to handle this alone. So I leave my keyboard and sneak back to bed to snuggle beside the best kept secret in the Sweet Soo! her former spouse has turned out to be my best friend he just doesn't know it. Best step kids in the world (they actually like me) and best partner in the world, doesn't get much better than that.
Niigaanis 3/15/2013 6:03:20 AM Report
Stay strong Skipper Dave, thoughts and prayers are with you....
Stay strong Skipper Dave, thoughts and prayers are with you....
Grump 3/15/2013 7:22:00 AM Report
Niigaanis I have to agree with you. I get tired of the BS and just have to call them on it. One can only ignore so much. That said all the nice Americans out there and we have to draw Dr. Doom, the gun totting, multi tasking social missfit. Go figure. Have a great day everyone and carefull what you eat while the Bobsy twins are around.
Niigaanis I have to agree with you. I get tired of the BS and just have to call them on it. One can only ignore so much. That said all the nice Americans out there and we have to draw Dr. Doom, the gun totting, multi tasking social missfit. Go figure. Have a great day everyone and carefull what you eat while the Bobsy twins are around.
skipper dave 3/15/2013 7:33:46 AM Report
St Paddy's coming up and when I was a drunk it was the greatest celebration day of the year.
St Paddy's coming up and when I was a drunk it was the greatest celebration day of the year.
theprotector 3/15/2013 7:57:52 AM Report
I find it interesting that a couple of people on this site figure that the gun laws are for honest people and the criminals could careless. And they are right in that respect. However with a limited thought process such as that would dicate the direction of not having any laws at all. When you have people like right wing and voice posting their dribble labeling everything right and left when they cant even tell its their first cousin beside them in bed whilst scanning the internet to find the next all you can eat buffet with one hand and stroking their pm poster with the other...ah yes multi-tasking at it's creepiest! They fail to understand the basic difference between the US of nut jobs to the south and us in the north - owning a gun of any type in Canada is a privilage and not a right - and of course we have the usa. However they (voice and rw) seem to align themselves with the country to the south with phoney credentials and posturing lead many to beleive they are simply wanna-bes' or just simple.
I find it interesting that a couple of people on this site figure that the gun laws are for honest people and the criminals could careless. And they are right in that respect. However with a limited thought process such as that would dicate the direction of not having any laws at all. When you have people like right wing and voice posting their dribble labeling everything right and left when they cant even tell its their first cousin beside them in bed whilst scanning the internet to find the next all you can eat buffet with one hand and stroking their pm poster with the other...ah yes multi-tasking at it's creepiest! They fail to understand the basic difference between the US of nut jobs to the south and us in the north - owning a gun of any type in Canada is a privilage and not a right - and of course we have the usa. However they (voice and rw) seem to align themselves with the country to the south with phoney credentials and posturing lead many to beleive they are simply wanna-bes' or just simple.
Niigaanis 3/15/2013 8:20:33 AM Report
gotta love those Irish though Skipper they have some of the finest single malt scotch going....if that's your cup of tea that is....
old Irish blessing - May I see you gray and combing your grandchildren’s hair.
May there be a generation of children on the children of your children
gotta love those Irish though Skipper they have some of the finest single malt scotch going....if that's your cup of tea that is....
old Irish blessing - May I see you gray and combing your grandchildren’s hair.
May there be a generation of children on the children of your children
Mr. Poster 3/15/2013 8:25:33 AM Report
Niiganais...KEEP IN MIND...whatever people post on here is not life threatening. It will never become law. You never know who or what is behind a name. It is purely entertainment...and....sometimes pretty low quality. learn the art of SKIPPING AND SCROLLING...it makes the read digestible At times we all get in a dither about a posting...but...in reality..we likely did the same thing.
Niiganais...KEEP IN MIND...whatever people post on here is not life threatening. It will never become law. You never know who or what is behind a name. It is purely entertainment...and....sometimes pretty low quality. learn the art of SKIPPING AND SCROLLING...it makes the read digestible At times we all get in a dither about a posting...but...in reality..we likely did the same thing.
Niigaanis 3/15/2013 8:27:54 AM Report
As you slide down the bannister of life,
May the splinters never point the wrong way!
May you get all your wishes but one
so you always have something to strive for!
and one more for good measure
There are good ships, and there are wood ships,
The ships that sail the sea.
But the best ships are friendships,
And may they always be.
As you slide down the bannister of life,
May the splinters never point the wrong way!
May you get all your wishes but one
so you always have something to strive for!
and one more for good measure
There are good ships, and there are wood ships,
The ships that sail the sea.
But the best ships are friendships,
And may they always be.
right wing 3/15/2013 8:40:01 AM Report
Mr Poster
Exactly.
It's called lighten up and don't take this place so seriously.
I know I don't.
Mr Poster
Exactly.
It's called lighten up and don't take this place so seriously.
I know I don't.
skipper dave 3/15/2013 8:42:07 AM Report
Niigannis - My former spouse came over in a boat in the fifties, consequently my two daughters have dual citizenship and a love of all Irish. I've attended one irish wake and love how they celebrate the life of the dearly departed not the passing. Now the "curse of the drink" followed them over and I was more than pleased to try to drink up to their level - could not. Joke, Paddy is lying in state in the living room and Mary says Colleen how did he die. Colleen replies it was the drink that got him. Mary says why didn't you send him to AA. Colleen replies "Heavens no he wasn't that bad".
We would attend a St. Patrick days dance when at 1:00 am they would shoo off the non-irish than get down to serious drinking and singing IRA songs till it's time to go to a patriarch house for breakfast and more drinking. Another irish joke - Why did god invent alcohol - to prevent the irish from ruling the earth. Thank god I matured out of that insanity.
Niigannis - My former spouse came over in a boat in the fifties, consequently my two daughters have dual citizenship and a love of all Irish. I've attended one irish wake and love how they celebrate the life of the dearly departed not the passing. Now the "curse of the drink" followed them over and I was more than pleased to try to drink up to their level - could not. Joke, Paddy is lying in state in the living room and Mary says Colleen how did he die. Colleen replies it was the drink that got him. Mary says why didn't you send him to AA. Colleen replies "Heavens no he wasn't that bad".
We would attend a St. Patrick days dance when at 1:00 am they would shoo off the non-irish than get down to serious drinking and singing IRA songs till it's time to go to a patriarch house for breakfast and more drinking. Another irish joke - Why did god invent alcohol - to prevent the irish from ruling the earth. Thank god I matured out of that insanity.
skipper dave 3/15/2013 8:56:07 AM Report
Watch it RW before you know it a "feeling may jump out and bite you in the ass" Let's keep it lite. So who on here can we rip a new asshole for today?
Intimacy (pronounced = into me you see) but only if you feel safe enough to not be hurt.
Watch it RW before you know it a "feeling may jump out and bite you in the ass" Let's keep it lite. So who on here can we rip a new asshole for today?
Intimacy (pronounced = into me you see) but only if you feel safe enough to not be hurt.
flyhawk25 3/15/2013 9:00:22 AM Report
Bar shooting in Cancun Mexico. Six tourists killed.
Since 2006 there have been over 60,000 murders in Mexico.
Boy. Talk about wanting to be like America...
Bar shooting in Cancun Mexico. Six tourists killed.
Since 2006 there have been over 60,000 murders in Mexico.
Boy. Talk about wanting to be like America...
Niigaanis 3/15/2013 9:12:31 AM Report
no worries, I've gotten good over the years on here at spotting the ones who are self-important and have become pretty good at using the scroll function when I see certain posters names....all air and no sustenance comes to mind
no worries, I've gotten good over the years on here at spotting the ones who are self-important and have become pretty good at using the scroll function when I see certain posters names....all air and no sustenance comes to mind
skipper dave 3/15/2013 9:17:24 AM Report
Well thank you RW! Have a good day unless you have other plans?
Well thank you RW! Have a good day unless you have other plans?
skipper dave 3/15/2013 9:19:31 AM Report
Fly what's the gun control legislature in Mexico stack up with ours. Seems to be no shortage of victims?
Fly what's the gun control legislature in Mexico stack up with ours. Seems to be no shortage of victims?
right wing 3/15/2013 9:19:56 AM Report
You can create all the gun laws you like.
It will never stop due to the following.
...and remember, Chicago has some of the strictest guns laws in the U.S.
"A breakdown of the Chicago killing fields shows that 83% of those murdered in Chicago last year had criminal records. In Philly, it’s 75%. In Milwaukee it’s 77% percent. In New Orleans, it’s 64%. In Baltimore, it’s 91%. Many were felons who had served time. And as many as 80% of the homicides were gang related.
Chicago’s problem isn’t guns; it’s gangs. Gun control efforts in Chicago or any other major city are doomed because gangs represent organized crime networks which stretch down to Mexico, and trying to cut off their gun supply will be as effective as trying to cut off their drug supply."
You can create all the gun laws you like.
It will never stop due to the following.
...and remember, Chicago has some of the strictest guns laws in the U.S.
"A breakdown of the Chicago killing fields shows that 83% of those murdered in Chicago last year had criminal records. In Philly, it’s 75%. In Milwaukee it’s 77% percent. In New Orleans, it’s 64%. In Baltimore, it’s 91%. Many were felons who had served time. And as many as 80% of the homicides were gang related.
Chicago’s problem isn’t guns; it’s gangs. Gun control efforts in Chicago or any other major city are doomed because gangs represent organized crime networks which stretch down to Mexico, and trying to cut off their gun supply will be as effective as trying to cut off their drug supply."
theprotector 3/15/2013 9:23:43 AM Report
that is the issue you twit! Sure point to chicago but ex post facto laws do not solve the problem by themselves. You think everything is black and white, left or right cant you form a rational thought on your own - you are clearly the dumbest person around! I sure hope you were never allowed to breed.
that is the issue you twit! Sure point to chicago but ex post facto laws do not solve the problem by themselves. You think everything is black and white, left or right cant you form a rational thought on your own - you are clearly the dumbest person around! I sure hope you were never allowed to breed.
right wing 3/15/2013 9:24:29 AM Report
skipper dave
Mexico has a right to bear arms in their constitution.
skipper dave
Mexico has a right to bear arms in their constitution.
right wing 3/15/2013 9:45:00 AM Report
6th
You always find yourself lost in thought; it's such unfamiliar territory for you.
I'm busy now. Can I ignore you some other time?
6th
You always find yourself lost in thought; it's such unfamiliar territory for you.
I'm busy now. Can I ignore you some other time?
skipper dave 3/15/2013 10:07:06 AM Report
Good points RW but I want to throw into the mix that our law enforcement people are one of the two parties who adamantly do not want an end to the war on drugs (neither do the bad guys - too much money). So we have a gang of criminals who kill each other with guns and we are saying having any kind of legislation to control their instrument of delivery is futile than what? Reduce the gang = Legalize drugs and take the profit card out of the deck?
Good points RW but I want to throw into the mix that our law enforcement people are one of the two parties who adamantly do not want an end to the war on drugs (neither do the bad guys - too much money). So we have a gang of criminals who kill each other with guns and we are saying having any kind of legislation to control their instrument of delivery is futile than what? Reduce the gang = Legalize drugs and take the profit card out of the deck?
old-cat33 3/15/2013 10:08:55 AM Report
I'm not Irish but I used to work and drink with a lot of them!...LOL.
My hockey chums across the river in Sault Mich. St. Patrick's Day is a big event for them holy crap the bars are packed on this day?
Then again those guys really don't need an occasion to party.
I'm not Irish but I used to work and drink with a lot of them!...LOL.
My hockey chums across the river in Sault Mich. St. Patrick's Day is a big event for them holy crap the bars are packed on this day?
Then again those guys really don't need an occasion to party.
theprotector 3/15/2013 10:14:02 AM Report
yah no worries I know it takes a couple of hours to put your shoes on
yah no worries I know it takes a couple of hours to put your shoes on
old-cat33 3/15/2013 10:16:39 AM Report
A while back I was talking to one of the engineers at an after party for the new arena (Steel Back Centre) and he said one solution to the parking problem was to have elevated parking like in the bigger cities. This would be paid parking and would off set any maintenance costs.
( I wonder if that guy is still around and following the Elliot Lake Mall collapse)
A while back I was talking to one of the engineers at an after party for the new arena (Steel Back Centre) and he said one solution to the parking problem was to have elevated parking like in the bigger cities. This would be paid parking and would off set any maintenance costs.
( I wonder if that guy is still around and following the Elliot Lake Mall collapse)
BIG BROTHER 3/15/2013 10:17:04 AM Report
Rep. Sen., Rob Portman, has had a change of heart towards the issue of gay marriage.
What? Did the earth shift on it's axis? Did hell freeze over?
Nope, none of the above. Turns out his son is gay, has been forever and finally told Dad. Now Dad has taken the cure and changed his stance.
Dick 'The Dick' Cheney, whose daughter has a similar 'affliction', advised Portman to follow his heart. How sweet is that!!
Rep. Sen., Rob Portman, has had a change of heart towards the issue of gay marriage.
What? Did the earth shift on it's axis? Did hell freeze over?
Nope, none of the above. Turns out his son is gay, has been forever and finally told Dad. Now Dad has taken the cure and changed his stance.
Dick 'The Dick' Cheney, whose daughter has a similar 'affliction', advised Portman to follow his heart. How sweet is that!!
right wing 3/15/2013 10:24:23 AM Report
skipper dave
I would agree somewhat on what you said about the drug war.
The bad guys definitely do not want it to end but I would not paint with such a wide brush on the law enforcement side.
Many laws enforcement officers that see the daily destruction of drugs are dedicated to do what they can.
Hitting these gangs hard, and I mean hard would certainly go a long way in helping.
Organized neighborhoods have been effective in pushing drugs and crime out.
Booting illegals the hell out of the country would be another good step.
As Canadians it does seem to us crazy for a private citizen to have a military style weapon.
They can ban them all tomorrow but it will not stop the murder rate linked to crime or the occasional nutcase from shooting up a place killing innocent people.
Each time this happens it's the same knee jerk reaction and they are not even getting to the root of the problem.
Get after the gangs. Gangs haven taken root in Canadian cities also.
Check out the body count in B.C. lately...all gang related.
skipper dave
I would agree somewhat on what you said about the drug war.
The bad guys definitely do not want it to end but I would not paint with such a wide brush on the law enforcement side.
Many laws enforcement officers that see the daily destruction of drugs are dedicated to do what they can.
Hitting these gangs hard, and I mean hard would certainly go a long way in helping.
Organized neighborhoods have been effective in pushing drugs and crime out.
Booting illegals the hell out of the country would be another good step.
As Canadians it does seem to us crazy for a private citizen to have a military style weapon.
They can ban them all tomorrow but it will not stop the murder rate linked to crime or the occasional nutcase from shooting up a place killing innocent people.
Each time this happens it's the same knee jerk reaction and they are not even getting to the root of the problem.
Get after the gangs. Gangs haven taken root in Canadian cities also.
Check out the body count in B.C. lately...all gang related.
right wing 3/15/2013 10:29:21 AM Report
...speaking of "dicks".
Big Bro, does it really matter the reason?
Is the important part not that he has changed his view.
...or is it the flogging that you really get into.
...speaking of "dicks".
Big Bro, does it really matter the reason?
Is the important part not that he has changed his view.
...or is it the flogging that you really get into.
BIG BROTHER 3/15/2013 10:31:01 AM Report
Now, if only one of 'Dick's' or Dubya's kids were killed in Iraq, we may have seen a different approach to that war or any war. Or if either one of them had served in any war, things may have unfolded a little differently.
Now, if only one of 'Dick's' or Dubya's kids were killed in Iraq, we may have seen a different approach to that war or any war. Or if either one of them had served in any war, things may have unfolded a little differently.
BIG BROTHER 3/15/2013 10:34:48 AM Report
rw,
Are you as stupid as you sound??
They may have changed their view, but they are members of a group who get their 'jollies' out of flogging anyone who may be different than what their worldview allows. Oh, then they are allowed to change their views when they are directly affected and everyone should just leave them alone.
Hmmm, I guess you are!!
rw,
Are you as stupid as you sound??
They may have changed their view, but they are members of a group who get their 'jollies' out of flogging anyone who may be different than what their worldview allows. Oh, then they are allowed to change their views when they are directly affected and everyone should just leave them alone.
Hmmm, I guess you are!!
skipper dave 3/15/2013 10:35:02 AM Report
Here's my perhaps over simplification of most crime today that is driven by addiction. Give them the god damn stuff and prevent the street walking, petty theft, breaking into cars, houses, fire half the police, close 75% of the prisons, you are going to have to they will be empty, now don't spend a cent on treating them, we don't spend it now and do something with the mega money of your tax dollars saved. Oh ya throw the towel in on the war on drugs it doesn't work and If like rw says legislation on guns doesn't work throw the towel in on that too - Find another solution hey maybe reduce the criminal element oh ya we've already covered that. By the way I am all for treating the addict but that's a whole separate issue that I can tackle when I can sleep in my own bed in safety.
Here's my perhaps over simplification of most crime today that is driven by addiction. Give them the god damn stuff and prevent the street walking, petty theft, breaking into cars, houses, fire half the police, close 75% of the prisons, you are going to have to they will be empty, now don't spend a cent on treating them, we don't spend it now and do something with the mega money of your tax dollars saved. Oh ya throw the towel in on the war on drugs it doesn't work and If like rw says legislation on guns doesn't work throw the towel in on that too - Find another solution hey maybe reduce the criminal element oh ya we've already covered that. By the way I am all for treating the addict but that's a whole separate issue that I can tackle when I can sleep in my own bed in safety.
BIG BROTHER 3/15/2013 10:38:47 AM Report
old-cat,
Interesting you mention the mall collapse. I'm wondering if the people who built the mall in Elliot Lake are the same crew who built the addition at the Station Mall that collapsed a few years ago. The ACR sure knows how to pick the engineers! Seems to me the Station Mall collapse was due to faulty welds in critical structural joints.
old-cat,
Interesting you mention the mall collapse. I'm wondering if the people who built the mall in Elliot Lake are the same crew who built the addition at the Station Mall that collapsed a few years ago. The ACR sure knows how to pick the engineers! Seems to me the Station Mall collapse was due to faulty welds in critical structural joints.
Bill_the_Cat 3/15/2013 11:16:54 AM Report
I don't know that Cheney ever reversed his view on gay marriage. He was always in favour of it. As I recall it was smarmy Democrats who 'outed' his daughter to the public in hopes of discrediting Republicans, forcing him to make a public statement.
They're not smarmy because they're Democrats, but rather their use of opponents' offspring to score political points (cf Palin's brood).
I don't know that Cheney ever reversed his view on gay marriage. He was always in favour of it. As I recall it was smarmy Democrats who 'outed' his daughter to the public in hopes of discrediting Republicans, forcing him to make a public statement.
They're not smarmy because they're Democrats, but rather their use of opponents' offspring to score political points (cf Palin's brood).
Bill_the_Cat 3/15/2013 11:35:27 AM Report
"but they are members of a group who get their 'jollies' out of flogging anyone who may be different than what their worldview allows"
Lemme guess, pro-choice activists? Union organisers? Socialists/Commies? Gun control fanatics? PETrudeau syncophants?
"but they are members of a group who get their 'jollies' out of flogging anyone who may be different than what their worldview allows"
Lemme guess, pro-choice activists? Union organisers? Socialists/Commies? Gun control fanatics? PETrudeau syncophants?
flyhawk25 3/15/2013 12:01:36 PM Report
Beware the Ides of March....
This is the day when over-inflated gas bags with a huge ego should get nervous.
In the interest of safety The Swamp will be closing this afternoon until it is safe again.
This is a public service I do every year. So far I have saved two Prime Ministers, one President, sixteen politicians of all stripes, a dozen clerics and one myopic Meter Maid.
Today I'm trying to help the neo-con knuckle draggers so that we will have something to use as a pinata on here.
So strap on the colanders, get the new tin foil underwear and be careful. Be very, very careful....
Beware the Ides of March....
This is the day when over-inflated gas bags with a huge ego should get nervous.
In the interest of safety The Swamp will be closing this afternoon until it is safe again.
This is a public service I do every year. So far I have saved two Prime Ministers, one President, sixteen politicians of all stripes, a dozen clerics and one myopic Meter Maid.
Today I'm trying to help the neo-con knuckle draggers so that we will have something to use as a pinata on here.
So strap on the colanders, get the new tin foil underwear and be careful. Be very, very careful....
everson 3/15/2013 12:12:24 PM Report
Niigaanis yes I agree there are bullies on here, voice your honest opinion and they jump on you. Kind of a rat pack of males. Rude to boot also.
Niigaanis yes I agree there are bullies on here, voice your honest opinion and they jump on you. Kind of a rat pack of males. Rude to boot also.
Bill_the_Cat 3/15/2013 12:14:05 PM Report
everson: Some trolls on here to be sure. Welcome to the internet. Many good and interesting folk as well, even if we share divergent opinions.
everson: Some trolls on here to be sure. Welcome to the internet. Many good and interesting folk as well, even if we share divergent opinions.
Voiceofreason 3/15/2013 12:14:41 PM Report
the protector, that's the proof right there. The criminal element do not care about gun laws. Gun laws do nothing to stop murder or crime. Look at Texas, lower gun crime than Illinois. Why? Because it is common knowledge that most everyone carries down there.
the protector, that's the proof right there. The criminal element do not care about gun laws. Gun laws do nothing to stop murder or crime. Look at Texas, lower gun crime than Illinois. Why? Because it is common knowledge that most everyone carries down there.
everson 3/15/2013 12:18:20 PM Report
To Wisen the Irish luck is upon you today, because it is not hot today. Lucky you
To Wisen the Irish luck is upon you today, because it is not hot today. Lucky you
Voiceofreason 3/15/2013 12:18:21 PM Report
theprotector, it may not be a right to own a gun here, but people have the basic right to defend themselves. How will you do so when someone comes into your house to rape/kill your family and they have a gun?
theprotector, it may not be a right to own a gun here, but people have the basic right to defend themselves. How will you do so when someone comes into your house to rape/kill your family and they have a gun?
Voiceofreason 3/15/2013 12:35:42 PM Report
"They fail to understand the basic difference between the US of nut jobs to the south and us in the north - owning a gun of any type in Canada is a privilage and not a right - and of course we have the usa."
Really theprotector? So Canadians are more sane? We're better than them? Clearly the same cultural ignorance and bigotry extends itself North of the border too. I've met Americans who put most Canadians to shame. People like you are what's wrong with Canada and the US.
"They fail to understand the basic difference between the US of nut jobs to the south and us in the north - owning a gun of any type in Canada is a privilage and not a right - and of course we have the usa."
Really theprotector? So Canadians are more sane? We're better than them? Clearly the same cultural ignorance and bigotry extends itself North of the border too. I've met Americans who put most Canadians to shame. People like you are what's wrong with Canada and the US.
theprotector 3/15/2013 12:57:55 PM Report
yep in general we are, you are nothing more than a lying cockroach. A wannabe yankee. I am proud to be Canadian unlike you, I am proud that we are better than the usa! ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT HOLD CANADA BACK! ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT PROPIGATE LIES AND B.S. ONLY TO HURT OTHERS...oh caps lock on, sorry dont cry you pantywaste baby I really wasnt yelling at you I know you are a wimp!
yep in general we are, you are nothing more than a lying cockroach. A wannabe yankee. I am proud to be Canadian unlike you, I am proud that we are better than the usa! ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT HOLD CANADA BACK! ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT PROPIGATE LIES AND B.S. ONLY TO HURT OTHERS...oh caps lock on, sorry dont cry you pantywaste baby I really wasnt yelling at you I know you are a wimp!
Brianne 3/15/2013 1:02:25 PM Report
Just for you rw :)
"Psychologist Martha Stout documents how sociopaths will successfully put on an act of being charming and convincing while simultaneously waging war against the common sense of their victims through a constant barrage of lies and abuse, all the time claiming their innocence. This is a perfect description of how the mainstream media and the government operates in the United States today – habitually lying without recourse while denouncing anyone who challenges the lie as a “conspiracy theorist”.
A revolution has been launched against rationality and truth. Those who question authority are instantly derided as “conspiracy theorists” simply for coming to logical conclusions based on the evidence in front of them. The term “conspiracy theory” has been harnessed into a pejorative weapon with which to bludgeon free speech, healthy skepticism and independent thinking.
In reality, today’s “conspiracy theorist” is someone who has managed to retain some remnant of control over their own thought process and one who has successfully resisted becoming another victim of ‘gaslighting’ – an individual who knows when they are being lied to."
Just for you rw :)
"Psychologist Martha Stout documents how sociopaths will successfully put on an act of being charming and convincing while simultaneously waging war against the common sense of their victims through a constant barrage of lies and abuse, all the time claiming their innocence. This is a perfect description of how the mainstream media and the government operates in the United States today – habitually lying without recourse while denouncing anyone who challenges the lie as a “conspiracy theorist”.
A revolution has been launched against rationality and truth. Those who question authority are instantly derided as “conspiracy theorists” simply for coming to logical conclusions based on the evidence in front of them. The term “conspiracy theory” has been harnessed into a pejorative weapon with which to bludgeon free speech, healthy skepticism and independent thinking.
In reality, today’s “conspiracy theorist” is someone who has managed to retain some remnant of control over their own thought process and one who has successfully resisted becoming another victim of ‘gaslighting’ – an individual who knows when they are being lied to."
Brianne 3/15/2013 1:10:53 PM Report
"International Arrest Warrant issued against Pope Francis I, Jorge Mario Bergoglio, for Crimes against Humanity and Child Trafficking '
http://itccs.org/
"International Arrest Warrant issued against Pope Francis I, Jorge Mario Bergoglio, for Crimes against Humanity and Child Trafficking '
http://itccs.org/
Grump 3/15/2013 1:53:28 PM Report
Come on everson not all of us do. Quite frankly I thought you held your own very well but I know that the posse do all have to jump on the bandwagon like lemmings. When you encouter sometime that dumb either slap it or scroll.
Come on everson not all of us do. Quite frankly I thought you held your own very well but I know that the posse do all have to jump on the bandwagon like lemmings. When you encouter sometime that dumb either slap it or scroll.
flyhawk25 3/15/2013 1:53:29 PM Report
And now our resident expert on everything presents a theory on why guns in Mexico are linked to guns in Chicago. No source, just a 'quote'.
Boy it must be wonderful to have a neo-con answer to every problem.
Apparently gun laws don't work - it's a drug problem.
Fire the sociologists and criminologists and just ask the expert.
Maybe Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel could just call the swamp and get the problem solved. Or that poor dumb two term Democratic president could ask. After all he's going to move back to my old neighborhood in a few years and -wait! President Obama doesn't care, he's got the Secret Service and his girls will go to private schools.
Hmm...maybe he could just drop down and visit some of my retired cop friends and set them straight.
I know two who'd love to drop him off on the south side to sort it out.
And now our resident expert on everything presents a theory on why guns in Mexico are linked to guns in Chicago. No source, just a 'quote'.
Boy it must be wonderful to have a neo-con answer to every problem.
Apparently gun laws don't work - it's a drug problem.
Fire the sociologists and criminologists and just ask the expert.
Maybe Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel could just call the swamp and get the problem solved. Or that poor dumb two term Democratic president could ask. After all he's going to move back to my old neighborhood in a few years and -wait! President Obama doesn't care, he's got the Secret Service and his girls will go to private schools.
Hmm...maybe he could just drop down and visit some of my retired cop friends and set them straight.
I know two who'd love to drop him off on the south side to sort it out.
old-cat33 3/15/2013 1:54:58 PM Report
Thanks Sweetie, Pick up Tuesday at the same place 2:00PM after hockey?
Thanks Sweetie, Pick up Tuesday at the same place 2:00PM after hockey?
old-cat33 3/15/2013 1:55:58 PM Report
Thanks Sweetie, Pick up Tuesday at the same place 2:00PM after hockey?
Thanks Sweetie, Pick up Tuesday at the same place 2:00PM after hockey?
Bill_the_Cat 3/15/2013 1:58:00 PM Report
theprotector: at least if he wants to be a US citizen, he could choose better states than the Yankee ones. Choose someplace warmer. I'd choose Arizona or Nevada.
theprotector: at least if he wants to be a US citizen, he could choose better states than the Yankee ones. Choose someplace warmer. I'd choose Arizona or Nevada.
Brianne 3/15/2013 1:59:24 PM Report
Working 2-10 tuesday...... I am off today, work tomorrow, off sunday, then work straight through until thursday......... pick a day lol,
Working 2-10 tuesday...... I am off today, work tomorrow, off sunday, then work straight through until thursday......... pick a day lol,
Grump 3/15/2013 2:09:55 PM Report
Voice your post about breaking in, getting raped etc. sound like the old maid checking under the bed to make sure there wasn't a man there, while secretly hoping there was one. DR. Doom do you have dark unfullfilled fantasys?
Voice your post about breaking in, getting raped etc. sound like the old maid checking under the bed to make sure there wasn't a man there, while secretly hoping there was one. DR. Doom do you have dark unfullfilled fantasys?
flyhawk25 3/15/2013 2:45:51 PM Report
Brianne...I just checked that 'International Tribunal' Website.
It consists of one guy.
Somehow, no matter how just his cause might be, I don't see Pope Francis staying awake nights worrying over one unhappy Catholic.
Brianne...I just checked that 'International Tribunal' Website.
It consists of one guy.
Somehow, no matter how just his cause might be, I don't see Pope Francis staying awake nights worrying over one unhappy Catholic.
AceOfBass 3/15/2013 3:00:43 PM Report
Briane, Pope Francis is from Argentina a country that is not quite the sharpest knife in the drawer.
It is a country that has been ruled by ex Nazis and other brutal dictators.
Pope Francis is a humble man and a breathe of fresh air to the Roman Catholic Church.
I believe that we should give Pope Francis the chance to right the wrongs that have been done.
Briane, Pope Francis is from Argentina a country that is not quite the sharpest knife in the drawer.
It is a country that has been ruled by ex Nazis and other brutal dictators.
Pope Francis is a humble man and a breathe of fresh air to the Roman Catholic Church.
I believe that we should give Pope Francis the chance to right the wrongs that have been done.
Voiceofreason 3/15/2013 3:16:41 PM Report
theprotector, You obviously define being Canadian as something different than what I do. The Canada 40 years ago wasn't the Canada it is today. It was a much better situation. Mark my words, I hope that I never have to defend my life with lethal force. That being said, if the slim chance ever becomes a reality, I'll be prepared. You'll be a chalk outline.
theprotector, You obviously define being Canadian as something different than what I do. The Canada 40 years ago wasn't the Canada it is today. It was a much better situation. Mark my words, I hope that I never have to defend my life with lethal force. That being said, if the slim chance ever becomes a reality, I'll be prepared. You'll be a chalk outline.
Voiceofreason 3/15/2013 3:19:59 PM Report
But stand up, be proud themetaldetector! You're defenseless, overtaxed and overproud. (The real definition of being Canadian, right)?
But stand up, be proud themetaldetector! You're defenseless, overtaxed and overproud. (The real definition of being Canadian, right)?
Voiceofreason 3/15/2013 3:25:10 PM Report
P.S. if you're going to go on a rant about how I'm a terrible Canadian misrepresenting or nation, at least live up the the popular stereotype of being Canadian; be grammatically superior to your "yankee" counterpart.
P.S. if you're going to go on a rant about how I'm a terrible Canadian misrepresenting or nation, at least live up the the popular stereotype of being Canadian; be grammatically superior to your "yankee" counterpart.
Brianne 3/15/2013 3:29:08 PM Report
" That being said, if the slim chance ever becomes a reality, I'll be prepared. You'll be a chalk outline."
Tell me what THAT is ?
I think Mr. PharmaD has been taking to much PharmaC !
" That being said, if the slim chance ever becomes a reality, I'll be prepared. You'll be a chalk outline."
Tell me what THAT is ?
I think Mr. PharmaD has been taking to much PharmaC !
Voiceofreason 3/15/2013 3:31:31 PM Report
That means exactly what it implies. If theprotector finds himself in a situation where someone invades his home with force and desires to harm him or his family, he will be exactly that.
I on the other hand stand a chance in defending what matters most to me.
That means exactly what it implies. If theprotector finds himself in a situation where someone invades his home with force and desires to harm him or his family, he will be exactly that.
I on the other hand stand a chance in defending what matters most to me.
Voiceofreason 3/15/2013 3:34:47 PM Report
It's so ironic that someone who nick-names themself "theprotector" is physically defenseless when it counts.
It's so ironic that someone who nick-names themself "theprotector" is physically defenseless when it counts.
Voiceofreason 3/15/2013 3:35:59 PM Report
Is that all you've got skip?
I'm off my meds? I think you might be taking too many! That's the problem!
Is that all you've got skip?
I'm off my meds? I think you might be taking too many! That's the problem!
BIG BROTHER 3/15/2013 3:38:13 PM Report
Bill,
You're somewhat right. I was mostly stirring up rw, a minor pastime of mine. Somewhere between watching paint dry and taking care of biological functions. He gloats on pointing out hypocrisies of the left, yet has a wonderful myopic view of the glaring hypocrisies happening under his watch. I enjoy pointing these oversights out to him and watch him scramble to plug another hole in the bow of the ship. Generally, he doesn't come up with solid examples, just more rhetoric about the lame lefty.
Let's face it, there was no better TV than watching the windbag Limbaugh fall from grace. As for Sarah, well, politics is a blood sport. She was out of her league and over her head. Blame her own party, not the messenger. They set her up. We could fill books with the names and situations of politicians who have been caught throwing stones from the upper windows of their glass house.
Bill,
You're somewhat right. I was mostly stirring up rw, a minor pastime of mine. Somewhere between watching paint dry and taking care of biological functions. He gloats on pointing out hypocrisies of the left, yet has a wonderful myopic view of the glaring hypocrisies happening under his watch. I enjoy pointing these oversights out to him and watch him scramble to plug another hole in the bow of the ship. Generally, he doesn't come up with solid examples, just more rhetoric about the lame lefty.
Let's face it, there was no better TV than watching the windbag Limbaugh fall from grace. As for Sarah, well, politics is a blood sport. She was out of her league and over her head. Blame her own party, not the messenger. They set her up. We could fill books with the names and situations of politicians who have been caught throwing stones from the upper windows of their glass house.
Grump 3/15/2013 3:39:41 PM Report
Good Lord Voice go get some help before you hurt yourself or someone else.
Good Lord Voice go get some help before you hurt yourself or someone else.
Brianne 3/15/2013 3:39:54 PM Report
Just because someone doesn't broadcast to the whole world whether he has a "big gun" or not , doesn't mean he's defenseless .
Plus, voice, it all depends on who shoots first........maybe YOU won't be fast enough and you'll be the chalk outline.
Must be awful to live somewhere where this so much fear of something bad to happen to them !
Just because someone doesn't broadcast to the whole world whether he has a "big gun" or not , doesn't mean he's defenseless .
Plus, voice, it all depends on who shoots first........maybe YOU won't be fast enough and you'll be the chalk outline.
Must be awful to live somewhere where this so much fear of something bad to happen to them !
Brianne 3/15/2013 3:40:40 PM Report
Just because someone doesn't broadcast to the whole world whether he has a "big gun" or not , doesn't mean he's defenseless .
Plus, voice, it all depends on who shoots first........maybe YOU won't be fast enough and you'll be the chalk outline.
Must be awful to live somewhere where there is so much fear of something bad happening to them !
Just because someone doesn't broadcast to the whole world whether he has a "big gun" or not , doesn't mean he's defenseless .
Plus, voice, it all depends on who shoots first........maybe YOU won't be fast enough and you'll be the chalk outline.
Must be awful to live somewhere where there is so much fear of something bad happening to them !
Voiceofreason 3/15/2013 3:41:49 PM Report
IDPA training, Brianne.
I'm about as fearful as you are right now Brianne, however slightly more prepared.
IDPA training, Brianne.
I'm about as fearful as you are right now Brianne, however slightly more prepared.
Grump 3/15/2013 3:43:14 PM Report
On MSN there is a pic of Steve with a Panda. The Panda looks brighter and a hell of a lot friendlier. Steve kind of has that usual blocked up look.
On MSN there is a pic of Steve with a Panda. The Panda looks brighter and a hell of a lot friendlier. Steve kind of has that usual blocked up look.
Voiceofreason 3/15/2013 3:43:21 PM Report
Before anyone says anything further, go back and watch the link that rw posted yesterday. Then tell me otherwise.
Before anyone says anything further, go back and watch the link that rw posted yesterday. Then tell me otherwise.
skipper dave 3/15/2013 3:46:19 PM Report
Voice why would you assume it was you that my comment was aimed at? Oh ya any kind of attention is the need, forgot.
Voice why would you assume it was you that my comment was aimed at? Oh ya any kind of attention is the need, forgot.
Brianne 3/15/2013 3:50:40 PM Report
I'll tell you something voice, with the way that you are, your behaviour and fears.......... If anyone breaks into your home ( God forbid) and attempts to come after you with a gun, he'll have shot you before you even get yours loaded and the safety off.
Why ?
Because you will be too scared and nervous. You are far too much of a braggart and pretending to be confident, gotta watch that. To much false confidence .
I'll tell you something voice, with the way that you are, your behaviour and fears.......... If anyone breaks into your home ( God forbid) and attempts to come after you with a gun, he'll have shot you before you even get yours loaded and the safety off.
Why ?
Because you will be too scared and nervous. You are far too much of a braggart and pretending to be confident, gotta watch that. To much false confidence .
Voiceofreason 3/15/2013 3:53:57 PM Report
Brianne, a lot of newer firearms do not have external safeties. My G17 and my Redhawk both have no external safeties. Pull the trigger and away she goes.
As far as them being loaded? I have a push-button safe on my wall with a loaded gun and 2 spare 17 round mags. I won't be fast enough?
Brianne, a lot of newer firearms do not have external safeties. My G17 and my Redhawk both have no external safeties. Pull the trigger and away she goes.
As far as them being loaded? I have a push-button safe on my wall with a loaded gun and 2 spare 17 round mags. I won't be fast enough?
Voiceofreason 3/15/2013 3:54:36 PM Report
As far as scared goes, if you aren't scared when an unknown intruder points a gun at you, you're a freak of nature.
As far as scared goes, if you aren't scared when an unknown intruder points a gun at you, you're a freak of nature.
redranger 3/15/2013 3:58:06 PM Report
Should "the voice" be threatened by any gun-toting miscreant, he need only stand tall, brandish his doctoral degree and say, " be off with you unlearned one". Any self-respecting thug would flee before such a brilliant riposte.
Should "the voice" be threatened by any gun-toting miscreant, he need only stand tall, brandish his doctoral degree and say, " be off with you unlearned one". Any self-respecting thug would flee before such a brilliant riposte.
Brianne 3/15/2013 4:24:22 PM Report
"As far as them being loaded? I have a push-button safe on my wall with a loaded gun and 2 spare 17 round mags. I won't be fast enough?"
Well, now that you've just let us know where it is........
Your chances of being killed are now 2.7% higher for having a loaded gun in your house..... like really ? Seriously, what are you thinking ?
"As far as them being loaded? I have a push-button safe on my wall with a loaded gun and 2 spare 17 round mags. I won't be fast enough?"
Well, now that you've just let us know where it is........
Your chances of being killed are now 2.7% higher for having a loaded gun in your house..... like really ? Seriously, what are you thinking ?
Voiceofreason 3/15/2013 4:35:27 PM Report
Brianne, tell that to everyone in Texas, Utah, Arizona, Nevada, New Hampshire... need me to keep going?
Guess what Brianne? You drive everyday so that makes you 11.236% more likely to get in a car accident everyday! Are you going to stop driving?
Brianne, tell that to everyone in Texas, Utah, Arizona, Nevada, New Hampshire... need me to keep going?
Guess what Brianne? You drive everyday so that makes you 11.236% more likely to get in a car accident everyday! Are you going to stop driving?
Voiceofreason 3/15/2013 4:43:44 PM Report
I'll even add in that in Arizona and Alaska, you don't need a concealed carry permit. Any law abiding adult citizen can carry a concealed firearm legally. Does that scare you? It makes me feel more comfortable.
I'll even add in that in Arizona and Alaska, you don't need a concealed carry permit. Any law abiding adult citizen can carry a concealed firearm legally. Does that scare you? It makes me feel more comfortable.
Brianne 3/15/2013 4:52:38 PM Report
I haven't had a vehicle in 3 years :P So, therefore, I don't drive.
I haven't had a vehicle in 3 years :P So, therefore, I don't drive.
Voiceofreason 3/15/2013 5:45:37 PM Report
Brianne, that's the thing. I'm not trying to get people mad. I can't help it that people respond with emotion, skepticism and derisive comments because they think they know better.
All I can say is, to each his own. Some people want more than their own.
Brianne, that's the thing. I'm not trying to get people mad. I can't help it that people respond with emotion, skepticism and derisive comments because they think they know better.
All I can say is, to each his own. Some people want more than their own.
Bill_the_Cat 3/15/2013 5:46:40 PM Report
bb: Never a Palin fan, but the abuse heaped on her disabled kid over at Huffpo (and its Canadian cousin Rabble) was a bit over the top. This type of media abuse and microscope investigations of one's life keeps the best candidates from being politicians. I do believe that. Bloodsport or not, most Democratic candidates' children do not get that kind of abuse. (The Bush kids did it to themselves, though.)
We all fall for that splinter-plank-eye thing. It's good to be called on it. The world is grey, not black and white, nor Us and Them. It can be at times b&w, but usually not. Governments and media like to portray it as so. Easier to control the message.
VoR: never a big fan of pistols as home defence. Under adrenaline, it's too hard to put rounds downrange on target. Cops are no better than others at this. That's been my experience at any rate. A small bore shotgun is more ideal. A 20 with buckshot is easy enough for the lady/older children of the house to handle, and is easier to aim.
bb: Never a Palin fan, but the abuse heaped on her disabled kid over at Huffpo (and its Canadian cousin Rabble) was a bit over the top. This type of media abuse and microscope investigations of one's life keeps the best candidates from being politicians. I do believe that. Bloodsport or not, most Democratic candidates' children do not get that kind of abuse. (The Bush kids did it to themselves, though.)
We all fall for that splinter-plank-eye thing. It's good to be called on it. The world is grey, not black and white, nor Us and Them. It can be at times b&w, but usually not. Governments and media like to portray it as so. Easier to control the message.
VoR: never a big fan of pistols as home defence. Under adrenaline, it's too hard to put rounds downrange on target. Cops are no better than others at this. That's been my experience at any rate. A small bore shotgun is more ideal. A 20 with buckshot is easy enough for the lady/older children of the house to handle, and is easier to aim.
Niigaanis 3/15/2013 5:52:14 PM Report
good thing VoR is not in Canada since it is illiegal to have a loaded handgun in a home in Ontario...more chances of an accidental shooting hence the increased chance of someone such as a child been hurt or killed...seem to recall a police officer in the US whose child was killed because he'd left his loaded revolver in the night stand beside his bed.....
good thing VoR is not in Canada since it is illiegal to have a loaded handgun in a home in Ontario...more chances of an accidental shooting hence the increased chance of someone such as a child been hurt or killed...seem to recall a police officer in the US whose child was killed because he'd left his loaded revolver in the night stand beside his bed.....
Voiceofreason 3/15/2013 5:52:37 PM Report
Bill, thanks for the recommendation. I actually have my name on the list for a Kel Tec KSG, but everyone seems to be fresh out.
Bill, thanks for the recommendation. I actually have my name on the list for a Kel Tec KSG, but everyone seems to be fresh out.
Voiceofreason 3/15/2013 6:00:44 PM Report
Niigaanis, mine is locked in a small safe, mounted into wall studs. Electric push-button combination to get in. That's a bit different than having a loaded gun in a drawer.
In Canada, the police use an 18 gauge steel box manufactured by Protocan which stores the ammo and firearm in the same case. To comply with the law, this box has to have a divider in the middle. When padlocked, the gun and ammo are separate, but upon opening, both are available. The public can buy this safe and mount it using an adaptor place also made by Protocan. If you se this box, you are following the law no better or worse than the police. The police have to comply with the same laws as average citizens when not on duty. No, they do not get to take their duty pistols home. They are required to buy an additional pistol outside of work and need a P.A.L. to do so just like any other Canadian. I have a friend who recently became a Canadian police officer and this is exactly what he told me.
You are correct, it has to be unloaded. But the magazines can be stores loaded in the same box as long as it's locked and separated with a divider.
Niigaanis, mine is locked in a small safe, mounted into wall studs. Electric push-button combination to get in. That's a bit different than having a loaded gun in a drawer.
In Canada, the police use an 18 gauge steel box manufactured by Protocan which stores the ammo and firearm in the same case. To comply with the law, this box has to have a divider in the middle. When padlocked, the gun and ammo are separate, but upon opening, both are available. The public can buy this safe and mount it using an adaptor place also made by Protocan. If you se this box, you are following the law no better or worse than the police. The police have to comply with the same laws as average citizens when not on duty. No, they do not get to take their duty pistols home. They are required to buy an additional pistol outside of work and need a P.A.L. to do so just like any other Canadian. I have a friend who recently became a Canadian police officer and this is exactly what he told me.
You are correct, it has to be unloaded. But the magazines can be stores loaded in the same box as long as it's locked and separated with a divider.
flyhawk25 3/15/2013 6:30:56 PM Report
Just a thought folks... when you go into the swamp don't make a lot of noise, carry your lunch in your hand and aggravate the inhabitants.
Ignore them an they just run out of reasons to reply.
Just a thought folks... when you go into the swamp don't make a lot of noise, carry your lunch in your hand and aggravate the inhabitants.
Ignore them an they just run out of reasons to reply.
BIG BROTHER 3/15/2013 6:48:25 PM Report
Bill,
Apparently you haven't heard of Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity. Now there's a couple of winners whose support doesn't come from the tooth fairy. The Huff Post is child's play compared to those two.
And yes, I get pleasure out of watching the politicians, especially the righteous ones, change their stance on an issue because some personal life situation causes them to all of a sudden see the errors of their ways. For some reason or another, it seems more prevalent on the right side of the coin, because for them the world is so black and white.
One of my all time favorite karma issues was Richard Nixon screaming into his White House tapes 'what an asshole f'in commie Trudeau'was. A couple of years later he became the victim of his own sword....the Oval Office tapes.
Bill,
Apparently you haven't heard of Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity. Now there's a couple of winners whose support doesn't come from the tooth fairy. The Huff Post is child's play compared to those two.
And yes, I get pleasure out of watching the politicians, especially the righteous ones, change their stance on an issue because some personal life situation causes them to all of a sudden see the errors of their ways. For some reason or another, it seems more prevalent on the right side of the coin, because for them the world is so black and white.
One of my all time favorite karma issues was Richard Nixon screaming into his White House tapes 'what an asshole f'in commie Trudeau'was. A couple of years later he became the victim of his own sword....the Oval Office tapes.
Bill_the_Cat 3/15/2013 7:02:17 PM Report
BB: I know who they are, but I never listen to radio/tv. Karma can be something to behold certainly.
BB: I know who they are, but I never listen to radio/tv. Karma can be something to behold certainly.
Grump 3/15/2013 7:08:35 PM Report
Fly speaking of swampers, I haven't seen anything from the head honcho since this morning. Has someone gone and hurt his feelings?
Fly speaking of swampers, I haven't seen anything from the head honcho since this morning. Has someone gone and hurt his feelings?
Bill_the_Cat 3/15/2013 7:13:36 PM Report
BB: I've seen that intolerance on both sides of the political spectrum. That's part of the problem. We fall back on the I-Thou dichotomy.
Whilst I tend to the moderate right on the spectrum, I detest ideologues. I am forbidden from being political in public, so I watch with bemusement the professional party apparatchicks and their machinations. Lots of people looking for their turn at the trough. More similar than different.
Up too late with a cranky toddler last night. Perhaps I'm just too tired to fight today.
BB: I've seen that intolerance on both sides of the political spectrum. That's part of the problem. We fall back on the I-Thou dichotomy.
Whilst I tend to the moderate right on the spectrum, I detest ideologues. I am forbidden from being political in public, so I watch with bemusement the professional party apparatchicks and their machinations. Lots of people looking for their turn at the trough. More similar than different.
Up too late with a cranky toddler last night. Perhaps I'm just too tired to fight today.
Grump 3/15/2013 7:20:36 PM Report
It's nice to see Elections Canada taking Harper's crew to task for illegal election spending. About time.
It's nice to see Elections Canada taking Harper's crew to task for illegal election spending. About time.
Grump 3/15/2013 7:23:26 PM Report
Bill-the-cat. If you are young enough to have a cranky toddler don't complain as getting old is no hell either. lol
Bill-the-cat. If you are young enough to have a cranky toddler don't complain as getting old is no hell either. lol
flyhawk25 3/15/2013 7:31:14 PM Report
Moderation of course is the answer.
But we all learn from those first teachers - our parents.
In a 'Leave it to Beaver' world life was as black and white as the picture.
That is not the case today.
Our species in NA especially is manipulated by so many external factors who become our new mentors that we are more vulnerable to more external influences than any time since we stepped away from those tribal fires.
Moderation of course is the answer.
But we all learn from those first teachers - our parents.
In a 'Leave it to Beaver' world life was as black and white as the picture.
That is not the case today.
Our species in NA especially is manipulated by so many external factors who become our new mentors that we are more vulnerable to more external influences than any time since we stepped away from those tribal fires.
Bill_the_Cat 3/15/2013 8:05:37 PM Report
fly: I am not certain that the 'Leave it to Beaver' world ever existed but on TV. Women trapped in marriages; physical and sexual abuse of children unacknowledged. A whole generation of vets returned carrying their baggage with them. We never saw those stories. We know ptsd rates now, and its associated costs--double those rates at least for a conscripted army. Just as in WW1, swept under the rug, drowned in alcohol, and never spoken of.
In some way, these people looked to their parents....and produced the ME generation.
I guess we as parents always try to correct our parents' failings, rather than identify our own.
fly: I am not certain that the 'Leave it to Beaver' world ever existed but on TV. Women trapped in marriages; physical and sexual abuse of children unacknowledged. A whole generation of vets returned carrying their baggage with them. We never saw those stories. We know ptsd rates now, and its associated costs--double those rates at least for a conscripted army. Just as in WW1, swept under the rug, drowned in alcohol, and never spoken of.
In some way, these people looked to their parents....and produced the ME generation.
I guess we as parents always try to correct our parents' failings, rather than identify our own.
right wing 3/15/2013 8:36:53 PM Report
The lefties are very scared of us "swamp people."
They don't like to go in there, cause the truth dwells within and they get swamped by it.
Big Bro said today.
"And yes, I get pleasure out of watching the politicians, especially the righteous ones, change their stance on an issue because some personal life situation causes them to all of a sudden see the errors of their ways. For some reason or another, it seems more prevalent on the right side of the coin, because for them the world is so black and white."
...and Big Bro is correct I am always at the watch for glaring hypocrisies.
I enjoy pointing Big Bro's and all the lefties oversights and hypocrisy out.
It is why I lure them into "the swamp."
How about those that change their stance for political gain...no personal life situation, they were just opposed to gay marriage.
1996: President Bill Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act, or DOMA, -- which defines marriage as a legal union between a man and a woman. The law denies federal benefits to same-sex couples in the nine states where gay marriage is legal. Clinton said he signed it because it would have tamped down calls for a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. Only 81 out of 535 members of Congress opposed DOMA. Fast-forward seventeen years to March 2013, when Clinton urged the Supreme Court to overturn DOMA. He explained: "As the president who signed the act into law, I have come to believe that DOMA is contrary to those principles and, in fact, incompatible with our Constitution."
In a June 1996 interview in the gay and lesbian magazine The Advocate, Clinton said, "I remain opposed to same-sex marriage. I believe marriage is an institution for the union of a man and a woman. This has been my long-standing position, and it is not being reviewed or reconsidered." He did not mention the issue in his 2004 autobiography. (no of course he didn't)
The majority of Democratic Senators voted for the bill, (with Pryor of Arkansas absent), and a majority of Democratic Representatives voted for it.
Fear the swamp people......
The lefties are very scared of us "swamp people."
They don't like to go in there, cause the truth dwells within and they get swamped by it.
Big Bro said today.
"And yes, I get pleasure out of watching the politicians, especially the righteous ones, change their stance on an issue because some personal life situation causes them to all of a sudden see the errors of their ways. For some reason or another, it seems more prevalent on the right side of the coin, because for them the world is so black and white."
...and Big Bro is correct I am always at the watch for glaring hypocrisies.
I enjoy pointing Big Bro's and all the lefties oversights and hypocrisy out.
It is why I lure them into "the swamp."
How about those that change their stance for political gain...no personal life situation, they were just opposed to gay marriage.
1996: President Bill Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act, or DOMA, -- which defines marriage as a legal union between a man and a woman. The law denies federal benefits to same-sex couples in the nine states where gay marriage is legal. Clinton said he signed it because it would have tamped down calls for a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. Only 81 out of 535 members of Congress opposed DOMA. Fast-forward seventeen years to March 2013, when Clinton urged the Supreme Court to overturn DOMA. He explained: "As the president who signed the act into law, I have come to believe that DOMA is contrary to those principles and, in fact, incompatible with our Constitution."
In a June 1996 interview in the gay and lesbian magazine The Advocate, Clinton said, "I remain opposed to same-sex marriage. I believe marriage is an institution for the union of a man and a woman. This has been my long-standing position, and it is not being reviewed or reconsidered." He did not mention the issue in his 2004 autobiography. (no of course he didn't)
The majority of Democratic Senators voted for the bill, (with Pryor of Arkansas absent), and a majority of Democratic Representatives voted for it.
Fear the swamp people......
Grump 3/15/2013 8:56:16 PM Report
Swampers more to be pitied than feared. I oppose gay marriage in principal. That is my opinion but that is not to say that I would deny any that right. The same as I don't believe in abortion but what right have I to deny some woman that right. It is rabid neo-cons that think they have right to impose their beliefs on everyone.
Swampers more to be pitied than feared. I oppose gay marriage in principal. That is my opinion but that is not to say that I would deny any that right. The same as I don't believe in abortion but what right have I to deny some woman that right. It is rabid neo-cons that think they have right to impose their beliefs on everyone.
right wing 3/15/2013 9:11:38 PM Report
"It is rabid neo-cons that think they have right to impose their beliefs on everyone."
Bahahahahaha...I can always count on you for a gut buster Grump.
Liberals don't like cigarettes : force all businesses to ban smoking
Liberals doesn't like religion : ban it from all public places
Liberals doesn't like the pledge of allegiance : ban it from being recited in schools
Liberals doesn't like guns :wait for tragedy to occur , use tragedy to ban.guns.
Liberals want bigger government.
Liberals make more laws under the guise of protecting us.
Liberals ram useless green energy down our throats.
Liberals ban oil exploration and clean coal.
Yep...those Liberals they just can't resist imposing their stupid beliefs.
"It is rabid neo-cons that think they have right to impose their beliefs on everyone."
Bahahahahaha...I can always count on you for a gut buster Grump.
Liberals don't like cigarettes : force all businesses to ban smoking
Liberals doesn't like religion : ban it from all public places
Liberals doesn't like the pledge of allegiance : ban it from being recited in schools
Liberals doesn't like guns :wait for tragedy to occur , use tragedy to ban.guns.
Liberals want bigger government.
Liberals make more laws under the guise of protecting us.
Liberals ram useless green energy down our throats.
Liberals ban oil exploration and clean coal.
Yep...those Liberals they just can't resist imposing their stupid beliefs.
flyhawk25 3/15/2013 9:19:08 PM Report
Gosh.
I think that any politician who changes a position might just be adjusting his paradigm.
I cannot know whether it is for personal or political reasons.
I quite admire the Republican who just changed his stance when he found out his son was gay.
I admire Dick Cheney's support of his gay daughter.
Unlike our resident expert I don't think that life is either linear or absolute. People change.
I have believed in a pro-life position whether it is abortion, death penalties and war.
But when my wife was dying of a terminal illness I was quite prepared to help her to choose her own exit had it been necessary.
Wise people continue to struggle and to grow.
Fools continue to reword their prejudices.
We read their rants daily.
Gosh.
I think that any politician who changes a position might just be adjusting his paradigm.
I cannot know whether it is for personal or political reasons.
I quite admire the Republican who just changed his stance when he found out his son was gay.
I admire Dick Cheney's support of his gay daughter.
Unlike our resident expert I don't think that life is either linear or absolute. People change.
I have believed in a pro-life position whether it is abortion, death penalties and war.
But when my wife was dying of a terminal illness I was quite prepared to help her to choose her own exit had it been necessary.
Wise people continue to struggle and to grow.
Fools continue to reword their prejudices.
We read their rants daily.
right wing 3/15/2013 9:19:52 PM Report
So Grump, would you march in an anti-same sex marriage protest or carry an anti-abortion sign?
So Grump, would you march in an anti-same sex marriage protest or carry an anti-abortion sign?
right wing 3/15/2013 9:28:09 PM Report
I don't know about adjusting a paradigm, but fly you had better change your shorts they are full of it, again.
I don't know about adjusting a paradigm, but fly you had better change your shorts they are full of it, again.
mallet 3/15/2013 9:29:00 PM Report
Grump..
While I would not deny the relationships for Gays and Lesbians it does not mean I have to approve of said union being called a marriage. For the last 2000 years that has meant a union of a man and a woman and to procreate, and I am not sorry if I offend anyone if I continue to believe that is what marriage is supposed to be. The GLTB has become a very powerful lobby, and it would take really strong person to go against "popular" sentiments. Prehaps it would be good for a lot of politicians/lawmakers to have a few lessons in democracy, like the basic idea of the majority ruling and not giving into every whim of a minority. I know I am out of step with modern society, I believe schools should teach the basic 3R's, right and wrong, law and order, and of course the old "do unto others, as you wish to be done to". I also remember that men and women fought and died so that I can have the right to voice that opinion!!
Grump..
While I would not deny the relationships for Gays and Lesbians it does not mean I have to approve of said union being called a marriage. For the last 2000 years that has meant a union of a man and a woman and to procreate, and I am not sorry if I offend anyone if I continue to believe that is what marriage is supposed to be. The GLTB has become a very powerful lobby, and it would take really strong person to go against "popular" sentiments. Prehaps it would be good for a lot of politicians/lawmakers to have a few lessons in democracy, like the basic idea of the majority ruling and not giving into every whim of a minority. I know I am out of step with modern society, I believe schools should teach the basic 3R's, right and wrong, law and order, and of course the old "do unto others, as you wish to be done to". I also remember that men and women fought and died so that I can have the right to voice that opinion!!
flyhawk25 3/15/2013 9:29:27 PM Report
I just read the latest bullshit from the swamp telling all what 'Liberals' think.
My case is made evident by that sort of stupidity.
Sadly many others will agree and I hope most people with an IQ over room temperature, a healthy life or even a stamp collection will just scroll past and wait for the other slugs to surface.
Not in a public place but hiding again behind a computer.
I just read the latest bullshit from the swamp telling all what 'Liberals' think.
My case is made evident by that sort of stupidity.
Sadly many others will agree and I hope most people with an IQ over room temperature, a healthy life or even a stamp collection will just scroll past and wait for the other slugs to surface.
Not in a public place but hiding again behind a computer.
right wing 3/15/2013 9:33:41 PM Report
Hahahaha...unlike you?
Oh yes, you go to the summits.
That's how we can all become an elitist like fly.
Hahahaha...unlike you?
Oh yes, you go to the summits.
That's how we can all become an elitist like fly.
right wing 3/15/2013 9:44:16 PM Report
Smoke signals...is that politically correct...politically correct, another over done pile of crap we can thank Liberals for.
Smoke signals...is that politically correct...politically correct, another over done pile of crap we can thank Liberals for.
right wing 3/15/2013 9:47:41 PM Report
"Perhaps it would be good for a lot of politicians/lawmakers to have a few lessons in democracy, like the basic idea of the majority ruling and not giving into every whim of a minority."
Mallet,
You are not out of step, your above statement is another thing we can be thankful to Liberals for.
Minority rules.
(and I don't mean by race)
"Perhaps it would be good for a lot of politicians/lawmakers to have a few lessons in democracy, like the basic idea of the majority ruling and not giving into every whim of a minority."
Mallet,
You are not out of step, your above statement is another thing we can be thankful to Liberals for.
Minority rules.
(and I don't mean by race)
Voiceofreason 3/15/2013 9:48:40 PM Report
Well, we wouldn't want to hurt anybody's feelings with profane/vulgar language, would we rw? ;)
Well, we wouldn't want to hurt anybody's feelings with profane/vulgar language, would we rw? ;)
flyhawk25 3/15/2013 9:50:19 PM Report
Just so you understand how I feel...before I go floss your clean water off my remaining teeth.
You are a sissy.
A keyboard coward who hides behind a screen.
Show up in a public venue with any random group who read this stuff.
Pick a topic of your choice.
We can chat in public.
Time to gargle the crap off my teeth and cuddle with my Bill Clinton doll and dream of a one on one with the swamp man.
Just so you understand how I feel...before I go floss your clean water off my remaining teeth.
You are a sissy.
A keyboard coward who hides behind a screen.
Show up in a public venue with any random group who read this stuff.
Pick a topic of your choice.
We can chat in public.
Time to gargle the crap off my teeth and cuddle with my Bill Clinton doll and dream of a one on one with the swamp man.
right wing 3/15/2013 9:56:36 PM Report
Don't forget, your soother is on the nightstand.
...and I have met you face to face, as you know, more than once.
It was enough for me.
Shall I happen to see you in public again, don't worry I shall walk right up and say hello, as I have always done.
Don't forget, your soother is on the nightstand.
...and I have met you face to face, as you know, more than once.
It was enough for me.
Shall I happen to see you in public again, don't worry I shall walk right up and say hello, as I have always done.
right wing 3/15/2013 10:05:44 PM Report
...I guess it's official, flyhawk has broken up with me.
LMAO.
...I guess it's official, flyhawk has broken up with me.
LMAO.
seriously 3/15/2013 11:54:30 PM Report
I MUST say that this is a repulsive blot of crude, rude and ignorant rantings.
The baked beans...are about right, but I like to add a little horseradish to it.
Fishing, well it's kissing good-bye for this season
.
Be safe IF your out there.
Not going to be a part of this group any longer>>>>until it gets cleaned up and not so unrespectful.
Enjoy
I MUST say that this is a repulsive blot of crude, rude and ignorant rantings.
The baked beans...are about right, but I like to add a little horseradish to it.
Fishing, well it's kissing good-bye for this season
.
Be safe IF your out there.
Not going to be a part of this group any longer>>>>until it gets cleaned up and not so unrespectful.
Enjoy
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