Grace 3/11/2013 6:50:13 AM Report
Good morning...lovin this time change.
skipper dave 3/11/2013 7:53:39 AM Report
good morning Sweet Soo!
The home of the Brier - Way to go team Jacob, this is your time and this is your home town!
Yogi1 3/11/2013 7:58:55 AM Report
Congratulations Brad Jacobs and team Jacobs for an amazing week at the Brier....!!!
"Brier Champions 2013"
The Soo is proud of you....
Snobank 3/11/2013 9:33:47 AM Report
Here's something to cheer everybody up! (Love the source.)
"It’s like Winnipeg, Manitoba, moving to Minneapolis-Saint Paul in only 30 years,” said co-author Compton Tucker of NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md."
Wicket 3/11/2013 9:37:11 AM Report
Looks like the Summit attendees talked themselves out.
Good morning everyone.
flyhawk25 3/11/2013 10:05:06 AM Report
Wicket...what's said at the Summit stays at the Summit.
old-cat33 3/11/2013 10:16:29 AM Report
Got to busy to go to the summit to meet some of you guys!! So when is the next one?
Congratulations to the Brier winners.Not much of a curling fan but I did watch some of that over the weekend.
Spellchecker 3/11/2013 10:18:57 AM Report
Good article, Snobank. I'll be getting my tomatoes in early.
Wicket 3/11/2013 10:29:33 AM Report
old-cat33, looking at having get together at the Canadian - upstairs, usually at 1 p.m. sometime within the first couple weeks of April, will be posting on here. It is a summit/social (ie., blue room and red room) event.
LOL at flyhawk, only the personal stuff.
Bad Dawg 3/11/2013 10:30:29 AM Report
Good morning all.... Was looking forward to some time off to spend with wife and kidlets and here is the rain. To add to that there is no water for Adrian Drive on this gloomy Monday, good thing I set the coffeemaker up last nite!!
redranger 3/11/2013 11:01:16 AM Report
A further note on smart meters. There is a move to install smart meters in Orlando and other Florida locations. People are quite disturbed because these meters will also monitor water consumption. They will have the ability to report you if you water on the wrong day, etc. Here is the kicker. They will also be able to tell if your neighbour is overconsuming and report him. Ain't that neat.
mallet 3/11/2013 11:05:28 AM Report
Our little banter yesterday evening, regarding the "Norgoma" and her sister ship, the name I was looking for was the "Altmark". Takes time now for the old grey matter to sort through all those useless facts that gets stored along the way. It was HMS Cossack who eventually cornered her and rescued the merchant seaman captured by the Graf Spee.
I know they cannot do much about the paint on the old girl, without all the enviromental assessments regarding scraping her off and putting on a new bright colour. But Spellchecker as I go to the R B building occaisionally as I pass her, she looks grim sinister and foreboding.. real sorry about that!!!
right wing 3/11/2013 11:34:50 AM Report
Regarding your post yesterday.
My plumbing background came in handy this weekend.
I learned how to do home dialysis.
The method using the catheter and bags.
Pretty neat stuff.
The nurse was great.
I had to explain to her that I was asking if she went by the nickname "nanag", not if she was "a nag"...that can be a dangerous moniker you have there...I'm not asking anymore.
Grump 3/11/2013 11:40:35 AM Report
What a great win for the Jacobs Rink and Sault Ste Marie. I had to make an earlier start this am so didn't get a chance to read yesterdays posts but will later. Have a great day all.
Grump 3/11/2013 11:58:56 AM Report
Snobank your point from yesterday is taken. Now read his post to me at 2.45 pm. yesterday and tell me if you think maybe he was asking for it.
right wing 3/11/2013 12:06:11 PM Report
You completely missed my point yesterday, which was about the major developers embracing progress for all the right reasons and instead you rambled on about them owning fictitious buildings.
right wing 3/11/2013 12:16:46 PM Report
Great to see that the Finnish Rest Home is moving forward with building an 81 unit apartment building for seniors.
It will also offer units on the top floor that will be life-leases.
...wait a minute, shouldn't they, according to the "logic" of some, not build this until every unit is rented out or leased.
What are they thinking....
mallet 3/11/2013 12:42:53 PM Report
Man, you got more twists and turns than an english country lane.
I would imagine that a business plan was put forward to finance the building, and the bankers having seen that there is a need for more housing for seniors in the Sault would not have a problem giving the money. As I recall there is a waiting list to get into senior housing in this area, so it is not a big gamble. And year by year there are more seniors, thanks to the baby boomer years.
Now if there was already a surplus of senior housing then there maybe a problem in building more, like there is of office space for rent/sale and we are back to your favourite topic of comparing apple to oranges!!!
right wing 3/11/2013 12:54:41 PM Report
"I would imagine that a business plan was put forward"
Yes mallet and a business plan is put forward with all development.
It is not apples and oranges as you put it.
Go and read the entire proposal behind the decision to construct the new PUC building and tell me again how they should have held off and renovated????
The old hospital should have been "shone up" and renovated.
Just ask any trade that worked in that place.
I am waiting for somebody to suggest they purchase the old hospital and turn it into a seniors building.
Grace 3/11/2013 1:52:05 PM Report
RW.. Hey I have an idea...they should buy the old hospital LOL
right wing 3/11/2013 2:11:10 PM Report
What a great idea.
They could spend five times the cost of building new and if somebody got sick they wouldn't have to take them to that evil new hospital with the long halls and poorly hung signs.
They could just die right where they are.
Voiceofreason 3/11/2013 2:22:33 PM Report
Yeah mallet, let's renovate a building that's all but condemned, even if we have to tear it down 10 years later! It will still look shitty inside even after the new renovations... But hey! It only costed 3/4 of what a new hospital does, right? And you still have a nice view of the river! Who cares that the whole layout of the hospital is terrible, leading to more efficient spread of disease. I could definitely use some shorter, more narrow corridors too! Our new hospital has hallways that are waaaaaaay too long.
God, the stupidity in here just amazes me. People on here probably still think HWY 17 North is good infrastructure. At least they kept riverview down there so people like you can check in.
mallet, you're on your way to be CFO of Sault Ste. Marie with those great ideas.
flyhawk25 3/11/2013 2:30:22 PM Report
This Saturday the CPAC wing of the Republican party will be meeting with such Tea Party poster kids as Sarah Palin.
Notable non-invitees include Governor Chris Christie.
And they wonder why they lost the last two elections?
flyhawk25 3/11/2013 3:01:29 PM Report
Voice...hate to mess with your rant but the Riverview Center is long closed and integrated in the SAH.
"people like you" would also include people like my daughter who benefited greatly from that fine facility run by wonderful caring professionals.
As far as I can tell from your writing the difference is that she was diagnosed and helped. You might consider your own intervention.Either you are ill or an insensitive lout.
Pink Peony 3/11/2013 3:22:18 PM Report
"At least they kept riverview down there so people like you can check in."
Talk about an ignorant remark!!
Spellchecker 3/11/2013 3:24:22 PM Report
They lost the elections because of a fundamental change of mindset in the people. They prefer the government "freebies" to retention of their freedoms. They will pay dearly for that mindset as the freedoms and the money runs out.
Voiceofreason 3/11/2013 3:33:06 PM Report
PP and fly, that wasn't meant as an insult against people who are legitimately mentally ill. Sorry if you took offense to that.
mallet 3/11/2013 3:43:45 PM Report
Right Wing and Voice no reason...
Okay, How do I put this in simple terms, You spend money, you do not have, you have to borrow, to build new a place, to replace what you already have. In the case of the PUC I think the infrastucture needs more than a shiny new office block, for the employees to work in, while you have electrical outages and some water problems, you both disagree!!
In the case of the hospital, let us start at the reno was priced at 45mil of which the city was to contribute 15mil, this was debated for years, as you well know. Then someone came up with the idea of a new hospital started at around 186mil, city started to look at that and was thinking of the property tax increase for their share, Eh. kinda lead balloon. Then the bright idea of public/private and everyone brightened up, except a few like myself. Now we are all on the hook for, wait for it, nearly half a Billion.
Now you two gentlemen may have that sort of money laying around, I don't, and you know what, I don't think many do, especially seeing as the "private" part are probably, not sure, going to be paid out of the hospital yearly budget, and as they now cannot run a deficit, what do you think happens to the services? I have had my say and I will not discuss this anymore!!
everson 3/11/2013 3:43:56 PM Report
I see the extremely large mayor of TO is "grabbing" attention again. nothing like a rhino nipping at your butt.
cathyh 3/11/2013 3:55:50 PM Report
Everson: I would say it is Sarah thompson who is grabbing attention. Boy, she better have a good lawyer as she spouts off about the toronto mayor "grabbing my ass" and maybe he has symptoms of cocaine abuse. Me thinks she better button her lip.
Grump 3/11/2013 3:56:04 PM Report
rw and you completely missed mine ,that public sector Taj Mahal adds plenty to your electric bill and you certainly wouldn't see a developer build a glass palace for themselves when they will have three empty builings, one that's been on the market for years. You are one damn poor Conservative if you really think that is OK.
Grump 3/11/2013 4:04:40 PM Report
Cathyh, Ford is way out of his weight class there believe it or not. She is part of the great Conservative newspaper empire Thomson as her name might suggest. That is also a funny comment from a woman as I believe these ass grabbers need to be called on it. Go figure.
cathyh 3/11/2013 4:30:26 PM Report
Grump: My initial reaction when I read the story last week was that she might be a wee bit bonko. What woman in her right mind would say that about any man when she couldn't prove it and then for her to say that she googled mayor Ford's "symptoms" and deduced that he might be a cocaine user. She's either stupid or bonky. At least she comes from money and can afford a good lawyer.
Wicket 3/11/2013 4:33:17 PM Report
righwing, in order to not get yourself into trouble again over nanag's name, think of it as it is: Nana G, she just chose to put it on paper, so to speak, a bit differently.
Grump 3/11/2013 4:44:18 PM Report
Cathyh She is also a magazine Editor and with money and the power of the press and likely better P.C. connections than Ford it only proves again what a classless buffoon he is.
Spellchecker 3/11/2013 4:50:35 PM Report
I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.
Spellchecker 3/11/2013 4:53:09 PM Report
And don't forget there are two ways to tax. You can take the money directly or do it stealthily by monetary expansion leading to price inflation. We get both, folks, in spades.
epc 3/11/2013 5:18:07 PM Report
Grump, he is a classless buffoon.
Always "grabbing" attention in all the wrong ways. I actually voted for this poor excuse of a man.
If he would spend half as much time doing his job and not bullying his way around ( with his sidekick brother) it would have been good.
He will not get my vote again... So embarrassing for the city of Toronto. So much negative attention.
Whether a woman can prove it or not. She had the right to report if it happened.
flyhawk25 3/11/2013 6:07:25 PM Report
Guenther_Of_The_Apes 3/11/2013 6:17:12 PM Report
Flyhawk, are you going to apologize for running down tradespeople or people of Cajun ancestry?
right wing 3/11/2013 6:18:19 PM Report
Putting 45mil into that old decrepit building would amount to pissing in the wind.
You may, or may not, understand what that accomplishes.....
nanag 3/11/2013 6:42:03 PM Report
If you choose to think of me as a "nag" go right ahead.. matters not to me. If I had someone here to "nag" maybe the "moniker" would be justified. But it isn't.
you were right on the money. :)
Grump 3/11/2013 6:45:06 PM Report
epc my point exactly you just said it better. More women should call these jerks on this crude behaviour.
Pink Peony 3/11/2013 6:55:04 PM Report
Voice, thanks for the apology!! I've known and lost a few people that I cared about and mental illness was the underlying problem. Their lives are often filled with torment, extreme struggling and they want nothing more than to just feel comfortable in their own skin.
bounder 3/11/2013 7:07:21 PM Report
The only problem I have is that why do they have skanks on E-TALK all the time?
everson 3/11/2013 7:20:38 PM Report
I believe a woman no matter their background than a loose handed gross male
mallet 3/11/2013 7:45:20 PM Report
I certainly understand what pissing away taxpayer dollars is. If you wish for to piss against the wind more power to you...
AceOfBass 3/11/2013 8:01:41 PM Report
The PUC did not have $23.5 million to put into infrastructure and borrowed the money for the new building from Infrastructure Ontario at very low interest rates(this building qualifies for such borrowing)The PUC owns the building and is regulated by OEB. PUC requires OEB approval to spend $23.5 million on infrastructure and the OEB would evaluate the need based on outage performance.PUC reliability indices are inline with provincial average therefore would not approve the expenditure for infrastructure as there is no demonstrated need.
Most outages are not due to failure of aged infrastructure.The average outage in 2010 was 45 minutes.Eliminating all outages relatedto aged infrastructure would cost $200 million and would reduce average outages by 9 minutes.
And now you know the truth.
AceOfBass 3/11/2013 8:08:32 PM Report
Time to feed that EYESORE scow on the waterfront called Norgoma into N0 7 blast furnace.
AceOfBass 3/11/2013 8:15:14 PM Report
The old hospitals more than likely killed more people with all the dirt and bacteria in that place.
With the new hospital it is way much cleaner than the old hospitals.
Sure the pay parking at 5 bucks a hit is a bit much.It 's cheaper to get a monthly pass if you require one.
The hospital is owned and has a mortgage and its has private maintenance agreement.
flyhawk25 3/11/2013 8:38:03 PM Report
When you learn to read beyond the printed word and into even the rough subtle forms of wit on here I might.
If I did.
Until then - go back into the shadows.
If you want to chat get a hall pass and we'll talk.
Face to face.
Brianne 3/11/2013 8:38:49 PM Report
"Time to feed that EYESORE scow on the waterfront called Norgoma into N0 7 blast furnace."
And who should we feed you to ace ?
shakespeare 3/11/2013 8:41:43 PM Report
re the Ford story: I worked for most of my career with students from the ages of 13-80 (high school,college and university)and in the latter two areas given the subject matter the majority were female. There were the occasional hugs, patting on the back etc. which went with a usually important emotional event.
I did, however, get a wake-up call two weeks ago in Calgary. My wife was in a Goodlife fitness class and I was killing time waiting to pick her up in a mall. I was "accosted" by a mid-20's woman from a fingernail treatment service in a mall kiosk who wanted to show me what a wonderful service her nail service could do. She grabbed my hand and asked if she could perform a treatment on a nail. I said "O.K."
She continued with all her stuff, wanted me to buy the package for $90, no $60 no make that $40 for my wife. She was so far over the top in terms of selling and right in my face that I put my hand gently on her shoulder and said, " Please stop it, I am not going to buy anything from you"
Her response: " You're frightening me touching me like that. Now let me give you a better deal"
I told her that I was not touching her in any way whatsoever... and bye bye.
I must admit it did bother me and I'm still thinking of filing a complaint.
Brianne 3/11/2013 8:42:44 PM Report
Maybe status can come up with a recipe using the old ace as the main ingredient :)
Voiceofreason 3/11/2013 8:53:15 PM Report
eversons, typical feminazi response. Women are easily more inclined to lie.
Some lint to go with that rug you're munching?
skipper dave 3/11/2013 9:06:26 PM Report
Shaky tough call I had a similar experience with a young cashier at our CDN Tyre. Going thru cash she noticed my missing limb and gushed that she was taking nursing could she look at my arm. I was wearing a coat at the time. I firmly said no that I was not comfortable doing that and she asked me why not, I repeated "no" finished my transaction. I went home and stewed for a couple of hours then I phoned the store and when I outlined my complaint they put me thru to the head cashier. I stated that the young lady had embarrassed me and her response was way over the top. I explained that in no way was I looking to have her fired but I did expect her supervisor to have a chat on how to interact with the customer. They apologized and assured me she would be spoken to. Whether that happened or not is not the lesson. That I clearly stood up and protected my boundaries was the purpose of the exercise. As usual my belly quivered like jello when I'm doing something thats not comfortable but I also knew it was the right thing to do for me.
skipper dave 3/11/2013 9:08:53 PM Report
Voice hush now all the kids have left the sandbox, time for nighty night.
Voiceofreason 3/11/2013 9:19:12 PM Report
Yes I suppose...
AceOfBass 3/11/2013 9:23:16 PM Report
Briane,the scow Norgoma is not a tourist draw it is a bloody eyesore on the waterfront.
When city council pulls the plug on this funding of this 30 year waterfront eyesore it will be monies well saved.
How many berths does this scow occupy?
More money would be made just by feeding this dinosaur into good old No 7 Blast Furnace.
Snobank 3/11/2013 9:32:14 PM Report
Just found this and wondered what Spelly would think of it.
Affection for Britain brews in Germany
Remember Mr. Sparling?
Spellchecker 3/11/2013 10:18:02 PM Report
Snobank, they will find their affection to be misplaced.
Yes, I certainly do remember Mr. Sparling and Mr. McGauley too. I worked in Mr. McGauley's son's department in Algoma Steel later.
Spellchecker 3/11/2013 10:22:01 PM Report
Affectation would be more likely.
Wisenheimer 3/11/2013 11:07:35 PM Report
A little integrated steel making process for you babblers. The Norgoma would be sold to Purvis Marine for a pittance. It would be floated out to Sawmill Bay where it woukd be cut into pieces.
When Steelmaking called for "heavy" scrap for a certain heat of steel the old girl would be loaded on a heavy hauler and taken to #2 Shop for melt. #7 Blast Furnace makes liquid iron from iron ore pellets but no old boats.
Wisenheimer 3/11/2013 11:08:46 PM Report
Retreaded 3/11/2013 11:52:11 PM Report
WEll...lets paddle the old girl out to sea....enough money has been wasted on that rusting hulk.
Brianne 3/12/2013 12:47:11 AM Report
For you rw
Stephen Harper was visiting an elementary school he had a little girl sit on his knee for a photo op. while they posed for picture after picture he to her said to her, "Let's talk. I've heard that photo ops go quicker if you strike up a conversation while you’re posing."
The little girl, who was already annoyed with the time the photo op was taking asked Harper, "What would you like to talk about?"
"Oh, I don't know," said the Prime Minister. "How about what changes I should make to Canada?"
"OK," she says. "That could be an interesting topic. But let me ask you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff - grass. Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, and a horse produces clumps of dried grass. Why do you suppose that is?"
Harper, visibly surprised by the little girl's intelligence, thinks about it for a second and finally says, "Hmmm, I have no idea."
To which the little girl replies, "Do you really feel qualified to change Canada, when you don't know shit?"