Brianne 3/10/2013 6:24:48 AM Report
Ugh, gonna be a long day, 6:30 am ( really 5:30 am ) .
But, hopefully "spring forward" will do what it did last year and have spring arrive early !
skipper dave 3/10/2013 8:55:18 AM Report
Good morning sweet Soo!
Great summit Fly thanks for taking the lead - The boat tour sounds great, will allow us to mix and mingle. Grump sorry we couldn't have got-ton up and personal, I think your background as a contractor and mine in engineering would have given us a lot of common ground. Resident you are a treat and it took a lot of courage to show up by yourself. I want to hear more about your former profession, you have seen a side if humanity that I have never seen. That's what I love about these gatherings, we come from all walks of life and most have such interesting journeys to share. Look forward to the next.
If the PUC is amalgamated into hydro one will they lose the need for their glass cathedral?
Grump 3/10/2013 9:03:26 AM Report
Good one Skipper, they didn't have any need in the first place. Good morning, come on roll out it's 9.00 am already. Have a great day everyone while I dig my way out from this damn pile of paper. Maybe the boss will drag me off to Church and I'll get a break. With my luck the pile will just be higher when I get back. lol
Grump 3/10/2013 9:13:22 AM Report
Skipper you got me thinking, maybe we could sell Hydro One the Glass Palace. Years ago my wife was the President of the Ontario Visitors and Convention Bureau and they put on a training seminar for Ontario Towns, Villages, Cities etc. The big cities sometimes sent two reps, while many of the smaller places pooled together and sent one between them. The cost was 350.00 per head and Ontario Hydro booked and paid for 30 bodies. The big joke was it was held after lunch on a friday and not one body from Ontario Hydro showed up. Is it any onder they were able to run up that kind of debt.
Grump 3/10/2013 9:14:30 AM Report
flyhawk25 3/10/2013 10:01:06 AM Report
I came away from yesterday's Summit with a sense of awe at the breadth and depth of the experiences of those in attendance.
As a group they have been to places and experienced things that I have only read about or seen on television.
And their range of knowledge and interests left me feeling a bit humbled.
They are certainly an adventurous and curious group. I suspect that's why they enjoy stepping out from in front of their computers and taking chances in new circumstances.
As for those who were complaining about the comments last night from the participants...everyone was welcome to attend.
You didn't so get over it.
AceOfBass 3/10/2013 10:17:15 AM Report
The PUC needed a new building it had outgrown the existing buildings which required major renovations at a very high cost.Long -term costs to build and operate a new facility were lower than renovating and operating he three existing locations.The PUC will continue to add staff to continue systematic growing of capital works to address infrastructure renewal.The new integrated facility will provide foundation for the next 50 years of efforts to provide best possible service to their customers.
The cost to build rather than renovate existing facilities $1.1 million less (after sale of properties) energy savings $108,000 a year,operational savings $$102,000 a year.The total savings 42.6 MILLION OVER 25 YEARS!
PUC did not have the 23 million to put into the infrastructure and borrowed the money for the new building from Infrastructure Ontario at very low interest rates( this building qualified for such borrowing)
AceOfBass 3/10/2013 10:20:11 AM Report
Those posters who say they were contractors and engineers would understand this more than the others on here.
Ernest Raymond 3/10/2013 10:33:55 AM Report
Unfortunately for Ontario workers Smart Meters were mandated across the province to save money. Smart Meters almost entirely eliminate the need for Meter Readers and Electricity Billing and Payment personnel.
When all the dust settles the billing and payment side of electricity operations will be amalgamated province-wide. The cost savings are simply undeniable. It's a crying shame, however, that these administrative savings will come as a direct result of our friends and neighbours losing their stable PUC jobs.
I thought jobs were the #1 priority for this new Liberal government?
mallet 3/10/2013 10:57:56 AM Report
Ummm Ehhhh, No, the priority was for their friends and other hacks to make more money for themselves. My hydro bill has increased by a dollar a day, unless of course if I want to sit in the dark, with no heat and do not want to eat hot food during the day at all. I am sure for some that increase will put a dent in the already stretched budget for those on fixed incomes. I know it's not much, just a cup of coffee at Tims, but as they work out how much that costs over the course of a year, maybe they should do that for the extra costs for essentials services, I mean its an additional cost that means I do not spend $365.oo at a store, multiply that over a large enough base and thats a few more jobs not needed...
mallet 3/10/2013 11:08:25 AM Report
I just wonder.... is the new building on a "Smart Meter"?? If so I have a feeling your engergy savings will not be as much as forecast, seeing that most staff work that 8 to 4, 9 to 5 routine. Also your forecast of the sale of the other properties, Ummmm well, the old hospital site hasn't sold and they just reduced the price of that, what makes you think that anyone is going to buy a building that is not fit for habitation,not well insulated, costs so much to heat and cool, and all the other reasons given for needing a new place for the previous occupants?? Call me crazy, but I am not sure this is exactly a boom time for commercial building sales, especially crappy ones!!
flyhawk25 3/10/2013 11:27:12 AM Report
It's funny how the free enterprise system works.
Now that the PUC is no longer in the taxpayers' control we see a new building, Smart Meters and rising utility rates.
When tax subsidies 'green energy' moved in we suddenly were sprouting windmills like mushrooms in a rain forest.Solar farms popped up on once good farm land and the soil sold off.
The new hospital became a public/private partnership and the costs went up exponentially.
Golly we are lucky.
As an added thought - how's 'healthy competition' helping with your gasoline fill-ups?
See a pattern here?
Ernest Raymond 3/10/2013 11:29:53 AM Report
Excellent points mallet... the Liberal's Smart Meter friends made out like bandits, my bill is waaaaaaay higher than pre Smart Meter, and yes my pocketbook is a lot lighter which leaves me waaaaay less money to spend locally keeping local jobs alive just like you said mallet.
BTW what's the difference between the Norgoma and AceOfBass? One was a cross-border hopper, and the other is a cross-border shopper :)
realitycheck 3/10/2013 11:36:12 AM Report
At the moment meter readers are still needed to read the water meters, at least they are at my house.
Ernest Raymond 3/10/2013 12:05:12 PM Report
That's good news realitycheck. At least not all Meter Reader jobs were lost:) It'll be really bad when all PUC billing and payment jobs are lost and the new glass Taj Mahal on Second Line gets a Norther Ontario Heritage Fund grant for ECHO CHAMBER research :(
BTW what the difference between the Norgoma and AceOfBass? One has barnacles and the other is a ship :)
Wisenheimer 3/10/2013 12:34:43 PM Report
Frankenstein commenting on current energy policy in Ontario.
"Oil, natural gas, fire, BAD".
"Wind, solar, smart meters, GOOD".
Algore told him so.
right wing 3/10/2013 12:44:08 PM Report
I sure am glad that most of what lefties post on here is not even close to any truth.
...except for the part about being screwed by the green energy scam.
If you want to point fingers at the rising cost of electricity that's your target.
Don't you guys ever get tired of gloom and doom predictions that history shows for the most part never materializes.
The new PUC building looks great as does the new hospital.
Both a long time coming and great investments for the future generations to come.
The old sites will sell eventually paving the way for new exciting developments.
Ongoing development along Great Northern Rd.
The new Canadian border crossing about to get under way.
The old St. Mary's paper mill site being developed along with the Northern Breweries this spring.
The new access roads that have been constructed making it so easy to navigate around our lovely border town, also wonderful.
The new subdivisions and new schools built or currently under construction...all great signs of a town that is progressive and moving forward.
What a great place to live.
It's a good thing some of our armchair experts at gloom and doom have never and will never be in charge...we'd still have hitching posts and mud on main street.
Bad Dawg 3/10/2013 1:04:50 PM Report
I went to the new PUC building and was insulted. There was no where to park, I waited and waited for stall. I went in and there were no customers in line. That place is a joke!!!
mallet 3/10/2013 1:09:10 PM Report
I do not think anyone said these new buildings did not look nice and shiny.
However most people look at the cost and what necessary items could have been done with the money spent on them. Anything brand spanking new is nice, a 2013 car looks nice today but come 2018 it will be showing its age if little or no maintenance is done, do you think the windows will still be "sparkling" in five years without being cleaned occaisionally? How about the hospital, as cost rise who do you think will go, VP's and managers or the cleaners? So in 25 years are you and they going to start bellyaching for new buildings again??
northernmale 3/10/2013 1:25:05 PM Report
Imagine if city council was all full nagitive thinking people. We would have a council full of Frank Manzos. Frank always votes against tax increases, so can you imagine what this city would look like, On another topic I changed to gas heat last year putting in two gas fire places, My highest bill for the winter was $145 for the month, my power bill is still $263 and no electric heat on. I would hate to think of my bills if I did not have gas.And we still have water increases and power increases to come.When does it end I am a Sr on a fixed income so how do we come up with this extra money??
Grump 3/10/2013 1:28:36 PM Report
Ace what I do understand is that the PUC have three empty buildings for sale, one for quite a while that all require heat and hydro and insurance and maintenance and on and on and on. Factor those costs in and let me know how much they are not saving. The three old buildings with either still be sitting there empty years from now or sold as fire sale.
right wing 3/10/2013 1:37:22 PM Report
If all you see is "nice and shiny" it would be more than exhausting to get you to understand the bigger picture.
It's all so simple, "they" held "nice and shiny" meetings and only had to put forth "nice and shiny" proposals...
There will always be those that bitch and whine about everything, progress, the old or the new, there is seemingly no way to please them.
The perfect example was the old hospital...never ending about how we needed a new one...and we did...and we got one...and now they bitch about everything from parking, to sign placement, to who is running the place.
It is in their nature and it is endless.
right wing 3/10/2013 1:39:49 PM Report
...and a perfect example courtesy of Grump.
flyhawk25 3/10/2013 1:47:42 PM Report
Okay...let's ignore once again the comments from our expert on everything.
How about our Sault rink going to the finals in curling!
Lovely to see their coach Tom Coulterman on the ice after the victory.
Tom is a perfect example of selfless volunteerism to others. And 'his kids' continue to impress the sports world.
Good luck later today.
You never know guys...it might just be time.
Ernest Raymond 3/10/2013 1:58:17 PM Report
So I guess right wing is in favour of the PUC being folded in with Hydro One. Higher utility costs, lost local jobs... Yessiree, bright, new, shiny progress.
BTW What's the difference between the Norgoma and right wing? The Norgoma only takes about $10,000 a year to manintain. right wing is much higher maintenance :)
mallet 3/10/2013 2:00:48 PM Report
My only whine is the cost..had the various managements put their maintenance budgets to upgrades, windows, insulation, cleaning etc then maybe they would not have needed these posh edifices. The PUC downtown was nice and central to get to for accounts, problems, permits etc, try getting across 2nd line if you coming from the west end, or wanting to get back to the east end.. One of the reasons the old hospitals looked so run down was the lack of cleaning and maintenance, those were the first people gone when any cutbacks came along, you think the new place will be any different? I hope I am wrong, there are certain dificencies that I think will become self evident in the years to come, which will not be good for the place as far as infection control is concerned..
Grump 3/10/2013 2:10:49 PM Report
rw I'm glad to see that you are still not letting facts confuse your thinking. Atta Boy. In the real world we would likely have to have a sale for some of our buildings before any of us built a new one but boy oh boy not in the Public sector. It's not a new efficient building I object to but their use of the public purse and their timing sucks. That said I can understand your thinking as the New Conservative doesn't seem to have any regards for the Public Purse just I want it, I get it. Carry on.
Voiceofreason 3/10/2013 2:16:23 PM Report
So Grump, if the PUC was the PRIVATE Utility Corporation you're saying they would wait until they sold all of their buildings? Hmmmm.....
Resident 3/10/2013 2:23:08 PM Report
I don't think the PUC uses public money effectively. I'm sure they were/are quite shocked at the response of the "unwashed masses" when they take care of themselves (in a big way) at the expense of their clientel. The same thing seems to be happening at the new hospital. Who needs cleanliness and nurses when the "bureaucrats" have to have their high saleries?
Skipper Dave: Thank you. Hopefully there will be that opportunity.
Concerned citizen 3/10/2013 2:26:31 PM Report
Way to go, Brad Jacobs and team! Never really understood Curling, but after this week, have a better idea. Strategy is the name of the game- and best to play quietly. Good luck, Northern Ontario tonight at 8:30 p.m., I think it is.
right wing 3/10/2013 2:45:38 PM Report
Infrastructure costs money, big money.
Can you back up even one of your job loss claims.
You sure go against the grain of pretty much every large construction developer I know in this town...Oh right,, I said "large".
Chickenhawk - you do make me laugh.
....come on guys, lets just ignore him.
Do you drag a blanket behind you?
AceOfBass 3/10/2013 2:56:00 PM Report
northmale Councillor Manzo vote against the budget every year because of the funding that goes out to outside agencies such as the EDC 2 million taxpayers dollars,Innovation Center $277,000 (money came from 2005 snow removal budget cut)
norgoma, Bushplane museum.
Also the unnecessary tax hikes every year.City gets automatic property tax hikes because of MPAC roperty assessments,which does not show on your property assessments.
All the other Councillors just automatically vote for the budget in order to get out of the meeting to watch a hockey whatever there in a rush to do.
The finance committee is just a joke and a facade.Council should be going over the city budget line by line...
mallet 3/10/2013 3:04:31 PM Report
"Infrastucture costs money.. big money"
Why would you, as a conservative, want to spend money, BIG money, on stuff you already have???
Just because you can??
Ernest Raymond 3/10/2013 3:16:18 PM Report
Proof of higher costs and lost jobs when and if amalgamation goes forward right wing. Unless of course you don't believe Dominic Parella the new PUC CEO:
Go Jacobs Rink Go! Our boys curled an awesome game this afternoon. I didn't see one missed shot. Clearly the only things standing between our boys and the Brier victory are Manitoba and nerves. The boys have peaked at exactly the right time. Bring 'er home boys. You can do it!!!
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 3:17:30 PM Report
Ernest, your first joke on the Norgoma would have been good except for the fact that she never crossed the border. For the first 13 years of her life she ran the Turkey Trail and then ran the ferry run from Tobermory to South Bay Mouth on Manitoulin Island before retiring to the fair city of Sault Ste. Marie. She provided wonderful memories of my early life. Those were the good old days for sure.
flyhawk25 3/10/2013 3:34:36 PM Report
Spelly...if you are so enamored with the Norgoma how about we regift it to the Hilton harbor and you can watch it rust.
Wait. I know. It no longer can be moved because it is an environmental hazard.
Rats. I thought we had a retirement gig for you.
right wing 3/10/2013 3:37:12 PM Report
I had read the report Earnest and you said it all with the "if".
That "if" is a big one.
It's not going to happen.
No shortage of knee-jerk reactions.
right wing 3/10/2013 3:47:46 PM Report
Like I said look at the bigger picture and all the facts.
The condition of these infrastructures is backed by available reports as is the decision making that was more than justified on replacing them.
The window of opportunity for funds available also can weigh heavy on the decision to proceed.
I do not see any of them as a "nice and shiny" frill.
...and mallet, fear the wrath of the fly as you are supposed to be ignoring me.
right wing 3/10/2013 3:53:29 PM Report
Earnest...I should add, I'm not saying that job losses of any kind are not a concern. The PUC CEO is correct in his non support of this .
Just consider the source behind this proposed "amalgamation"...all kinds of things get proposed, this one has about as much chance of lasting as ice cream on a hot tin roof.
Ernest Raymond 3/10/2013 4:16:30 PM Report
So I guess you are in favour of the shiny new amalgamation "progress" then right wing. Shiny new lost jobs, and bigger, higher new electricity costs. Pick one right wing:
A) Yes, I am for the Sault job killing, higher Sault electricity cost amalgamation of the PUC and other utilites,
B) No, I want to stick with the Sault job preserving, 2nd lowest electricity rates in the province, "hitching post and mud filled main street" approach that our PUC currently employs.
Which is it right wing, are you for progress or against it?
Thank you for that historical snippet from your childhood Spellchecker. Very interesting history that I was unaware of until today. I looked up the "Turkey Trail" and found out that Bruce Mines was th FIRST copper mining town in Canada (1846). Very interesting stuff.
right wing 3/10/2013 4:26:40 PM Report
Your foresight is blinding.
On that note I shall go and watch cement harden....the end result shall be the same.
Grump 3/10/2013 4:28:13 PM Report
rw you mention "BIG DEVELOPERS" well I have a news flash for you, many are clients of mine and I can tell you true they are all one hell of a lot more carefull with their money than any public sector agency that I know of. I also can't think of any who would build a glass monument when they have 3 adequate buildings sitting empty. That said you can excuse me for my opinion as you're are the ex-plumber, waterboy that knows everything about anything. I fail to understand why you are not in Ottawa making up B.S. excuses for your hero Steve. Also I don't drag a blanket around, they are reserved for know-it-alls. Carry on hero.
Grump 3/10/2013 4:32:19 PM Report
Ernest. Blind River was a large lumber Capitol, then Thessalon, then Bruce Mines and The Sault developed later
Ernest Raymond 3/10/2013 4:43:54 PM Report
So I guess you're against progress then right wing... in this amalgamation case of maintenance vs. construction, but not in the case of physical plant maintenance vs. construction.
Wow what a waffler.
Even in the face of amalgamation administrative cost savings. And you call yourself a right wing-er. Shame on you. Wasting money like that.
And, duh, of course the Sault job losses presuppose amalgamation right wing. Try to stick with the topic would ya. Venturing off to the Taj Mahal topic won't get you anywhere with me.
Yah, concrete drying is about your speed right wing... go crazy :)
Chardonnay 3/10/2013 4:45:56 PM Report
Anyone else experiencing discoloured water in East end at the moment?
everson 3/10/2013 4:53:47 PM Report
When is our so much hated and least effective prime minister ever going to put a national strategy to have a coast to coast national highway that is functional instead of a meandering cow path of a broken Canadian ideology?
everson 3/10/2013 4:56:13 PM Report
What National Action plan is this pm talking or tooting his horn about? All I see is the poor hard working, struggling Canadian overburdened taxpayer paying for his BS. He is a failure
Yogi1 3/10/2013 4:59:42 PM Report
Where's the coverage of the Brier...???
WE have a team from the Soo in the finals and no coverage???
Congratulations Brad Jacobs and team Jacobs for a fantastic week of curling.... Good luck this evening in the final.....!!!
Grump 3/10/2013 5:07:11 PM Report
The Brad Jacobs rink have certainly put the Sault front and centre on the Curling scene. I wish them the very best and do believe that this is their year. That said they are very good to just be where they are. I almost have to tie my wife down these days when she is watching curling. lol
Grump 3/10/2013 5:08:51 PM Report
The game is on channel 400 at 8.30 this evening (Bell) Enjoy
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 5:10:14 PM Report
Ah yes, Norgoma and her beautiful sister ship Norisle, now berthed at Manitowaning. Double ecstasy for the pre-pubescent Spellchecker and beautiful memories for the old Spellchecker, YEE HAH!
NASCAR Sunday down at the Tilt'n Hilton, folks, and my guy is running in third place. Gotta get down there soon for my end of race 2 points, YEE HAH!
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 5:20:28 PM Report
Ernest, glad you enjoyed the story of the Turkey Trail and the Norgoma's part in its history.
mallet 3/10/2013 5:29:23 PM Report
"Beautiful Sister" I think you mean ugly sister don't you. Those old tubs should be scrapped and turned into something useful, like razor blades...
Voiceofreason 3/10/2013 5:38:53 PM Report
Just picked up the new Glock 17 9mm. What a fine piece of machinery.
flyhawk25 3/10/2013 5:53:29 PM Report
It is best to ignore the trolling swamp people and their de facto mouthpiece.
If they really had any conviction or courage they would have shown up at the Summit.
Having an opinion on here is a wonderful part of living in even a dysfunctional democracy.
In spite of their fears there was no agenda or way of knowing who would appear.
I can only conclude once again that cyber-talk is cheap. Having the courage to actually interact with others in a real life, real time situation appears to be beyond the capacity of these dummies from the depths.
Their mothers must have all locked the doors from the basement yesterday.
mallet 3/10/2013 6:00:10 PM Report
V o R...
And you would tell us this for ???
shakespeare 3/10/2013 6:03:24 PM Report
mallet: he's a sick little puppy craving some negative attention.
Ernest Raymond 3/10/2013 6:36:17 PM Report
I wouldn't mind learning how to sail again. My grandfather used to have a little sailboat and I remember taking some sailing lessons at RYTAC many many moons ago... knots, terminology, hiking, how to right a tipped sailboat... great fun. "Red sky at night, sailer's delight. Red sky in the morning, sailor's warning."
Snobank 3/10/2013 6:42:18 PM Report
"It is best to ignore the trolling swamp people and their de facto mouthpiece.
If they really had any conviction or courage they would have shown up at the Summit.
Having an opinion on here is a wonderful part of living in even a dysfunctional democracy." - Fly
I frequently disagree with rw's opinions. Even so, I find it very disappointing to hear certain things that are said about him. Apparently he is a plumber. So what. Some of you keep dragging that fact out as if it was insulting and as if a being a plumber made one's opinion of lessor value. There is no logic in that so why don't we start leaving people's professions out of it unless they are odrelevence. Any honest profession, honestly held is of worth. If you think any differently then you are probably an effete snob.
Fly has set up an interesting, if silly, premise. If you don't attend meetings he has arranged than you should be ignored. Censorship by any definition. Then again, loudly waving the flag of free speech he did lead the crusade against Mrs. B******. Fly, use your good brain to make cogent arguments and not lead crusades against those who disagree with you. Or do you really not believe in freedom of speech?
By the way, Fly, in the quote above, the third paragraph is in direct contradiction of the second paragraph. Perhaps you recognize the irony?
Grace 3/10/2013 6:46:05 PM Report
Joke of the day!
Grace 3/10/2013 6:54:02 PM Report
On the topic of the PUC.
I see where Ernest is coming from..
I would have to say the word "IF" when it comes from the government mean "Let's run it up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes"
"To be fore warned is to be forearmed"
We've been warned.
shakespeare 3/10/2013 6:55:35 PM Report
Grace: Just like the joke about Obama being re-elected, read it and weep. If Harper stays on top, there is no doubt in my mind, despite all the snivelling and scorn, from the Conservatives that Trudeau will be the next Prime Minister.
I just hope that his advisory team live up tho their promise.
nanag 3/10/2013 7:01:55 PM Report
Plumbers are like nurses..in that our job requires us to work in or around things and places the average person would gag if they had to do. I have never met Right Wing but I have respect for him for the simple fact that he can and does do a job that a lot of people are incapable of doing.
You might not care for his attitude or political views but that is no reason to disparage his occupation. ... just saying
shakespeare 3/10/2013 7:07:08 PM Report
"lives up to its promise"
BTW: don't take that as an endorsement by me; I've seen enough elections in enough countries to recognise that appearances matter.
Just today, I was part of an email list from my former band with someone saying that how the band looks is worth 50% and how they sound the other 50%. I don't like it but many feel that way. Trudeau sounds and looks a lot better than Harper. Women will vote for him in droves.
shakespeare 3/10/2013 7:10:41 PM Report
nanag: are you joining his posse? I should point out that rw claims not to have been a practising plumber for years. He does other stuff now and, as you can see, it takes up most waking moments of the day.
Pink Peony 3/10/2013 7:15:16 PM Report
Oh yes, yes, yes!! I would vote for Trudeau because he's handsome. No doubt that will make him a good PM :) Also he doesn't look like he's got constipation when he grins like what's his name does.
Grump 3/10/2013 7:15:47 PM Report
Snobank and Nanag the Plumber comment was not the insult there it was his know it all B.S. I had a brother-in-law in the business for years and he did very well. The old saying is still true. "If you live by the sword you will die by the sword". Or another would be "if you wave a red flag in front of a bull long enough you will get the horn". LMAO/
mallet 3/10/2013 7:31:57 PM Report
Craving some negative attention...
Just between you and me... mines bigger than his... I got a .44 mag... So there....
Snobank 3/10/2013 7:34:15 PM Report
Grump, You seem like a good guy. I would certainly never say you were a lot of bull, but, in your last posting you seem to. <grin>
Actually, by your own point, have at rw for what he says if you want to but leave his or anybody else's profession out of it is what I'm suggesting.
shakespeare 3/10/2013 7:48:31 PM Report
Watching the Pope-lobbying thing is getting really interesting.I think it's a shame that they do it behind closed doors in the beautiful Sistine Chapel (all I can remember from my visit there was "sssh!" to no avail from the Vatican types who believe that the marauding hoards of tourists are there for a spiritual experience)
I believe that the Papal election should be like one of the Miss Universe contests.
The contenders should parade in their cardinal robes on the runway and then it would be the swimsuit phase, so that voters can really see their credentials. I think that a talent show ... a tapdance, a cantata rendition, a ukulele solo or something like that would narrow the field down and then there would be the "unprepared" question to which "World Peace" would be the inevitable answer.
mallet 3/10/2013 8:05:05 PM Report
I like your thinking there, Shakespeare, put on by the Donald, should make a few bucks for them. Maybe Status could fit them for the spandex trunks and give them tips to walking without a grimace!! A nice Gregorian chant maybe and some playing on the organ (sic) musical prehaps... you see where I am going with this, don't you. :)
Grace 3/10/2013 8:05:51 PM Report
Shakes.. With regards to Trudeau Mania 2 "The Second Coming"....."You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
Canadians aren't by in large gonna buy into the hype. Youth too young to remember what dear old dad did to this country may buy it but those that lived it...not so much.
flyhawk25 3/10/2013 8:17:16 PM Report
shakes...the whole pope vote is a joke.
You have given it the correct perspective.
Take away the silly outfits and look at an aging group of power jockeys trying to hold on to power.
When women are put on the ballot I will be mulch - and so will hundreds of wonderful well educated women of faith and grace.
Fitting that you would suggest Trump run the 'election'.
Just another male dinosaur trying to keep control over an emerging informed audience.
Good theatre but lousy theology.
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 8:19:32 PM Report
Mallet, I've just returned from the Tilt'n Hilton and the first thing I see is a fellow limey insulting my beautiful ships. How could you say such a thing? I am offended beyond belief. I'll never root for your soccer team again :(
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 8:25:48 PM Report
Pink Peony, I am very surprised at your comment. I thought you had far more sense than that.
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 8:31:31 PM Report
Hey folks, it's time for the big match. Everyone root for our great Northern Ontario team. Go Jacobs rink, go, straight for the gold, my favourite colour.
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 8:34:32 PM Report
Must have been from my early days at Collegiate, eh Snobank, in the days of the black and gold at Queen Elizabeth Park under the lights, watching our Wildcats destroying the competition.
mallet 3/10/2013 8:40:31 PM Report
Come on, a couple of rusty old tubs, most likely sitting on the putty, and hardly anyone doing anything with them. Okay, they are museum ships of a short I suppose, but they have no artifacts, that I know of, of a maritime nature. I don't know if you have ever been to Long Beach and seen what they did with the Q.M. but if they had been dolled up like that, fine, but to just sit there and wait for the handful of visitors that go on them, Ehh. Suggestions.. make a bar and restaurant out of them, a meeting place on the car deck, do up some cabins and make a B and B out of 'em, something useful, something to attact people to them.. But painted Black, looks more like a version of a german WW2 prison ship!!
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 8:43:29 PM Report
And oh, those beautiful cheerleaders, all decked out in their lovely black and gold miniskirts.
Everywhere we go-oh
People want to know-oh
Who we a--re
Who we a--re
We are the Wildcats
The mighty mighty Wilcats,
Oh man, I can see it all now. Why, oh why, do we have to get old?
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 8:47:43 PM Report
I'm only kidding, mallet. I know she's of no use. I just like to pay her a visit once in a while when I'm in the Soo. I guess you would have to have been there in her heyday to appreciate her. She's looking pretty desolate now and I don't blame anyone who wants to make her into razor blades. I hope if it happens that I get to use one.
Pink Peony 3/10/2013 8:48:54 PM Report
Spellchecker, I was being extremely sarcastic! Dry humour. It was in response to what Shakespeare said about women voting for JT for stupid reasons too.
"Trudeau sounds and looks a lot better than Harper. Women will vote for him in droves."
EricThe SHERIFF 3/10/2013 8:53:50 PM Report
I left a note for you in the red room.
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 8:54:47 PM Report
Thank goodness, Pink Peony. I was hoping that was the case. Whew!
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 9:00:02 PM Report
H Eric, good to see you again. I just saw one of your kind as I returned from the Tilt'n Hilton, on foot of course. We gave each other a friendly wave. I just live up the street across from the old school. The Tilt'n Hilton is the latest name of the Hilton Beach Hotel. I know you've been away for quite some time and you may not have known that.
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 9:03:24 PM Report
How about those Soo boys! They're leading 2-0.
EricThe SHERIFF 3/10/2013 9:07:31 PM Report
I believe it was called the Tilt'n Hilton when I was there and Billy WELLS ran it.
Billy always had to be first across the ice to Bruce Mines, by snow machine.
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 9:12:20 PM Report
And everywhere else too. If he wasn't first at first he soon was.
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 9:14:37 PM Report
And his father, Stan, ran it before him as the Hilton Beach Hotel. It was still that for most of the time Billy ran it. Before our time it was the Ottawa House.
EricThe SHERIFF 3/10/2013 9:15:32 PM Report
and then there were Lornies french frys, done in Peanut Oil...
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 9:18:45 PM Report
Did you have to do that, Eric? Those were the best hamburgers in the world. After a hungry day on the lake the smell coming out of that place would drive you wild.
nanag 3/10/2013 9:18:54 PM Report
Jacob's 3-0 middle of third end
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 9:20:23 PM Report
When the Norgoma pulled out, it was off to Lornie's for one of those fabulous burgers and fries.
EricThe SHERIFF 3/10/2013 9:20:25 PM Report
Yes Spelly, that was part of my duties...
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 9:22:36 PM Report
The combo cost a whole 35 cents though. Some of my buddies couldn't afford it. I was lucky. I was the rich kid on the block.
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 9:24:24 PM Report
My dad gave me a whole five bucks every weekend. That was rolling in the dough in those days.
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 9:42:35 PM Report
There was one time Billy tried it a mite too early. Had himself a little chilly swim.
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 9:46:23 PM Report
EricThe SHERIFF 3/10/2013 9:47:53 PM Report
Yes, and then Billy started carrying spikes.
Voiceofreason 3/10/2013 10:01:34 PM Report
mallet, I just recently acquired it and was letting anyone know who MAY have been interested that it is a great piece of equipment...
I also own a Norinco 1911 commander in .45 ACP and a Ruger Redhawk .44 magnum but this pistol is really something else.
joewho999 3/10/2013 10:24:00 PM Report
voice don't brag about your pistol,keep it in your pants.
Voiceofreason 3/10/2013 10:33:13 PM Report
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 11:10:39 PM Report
We're nearly to the 10th end folks, and it's 9-4. The victory is in the bag, folks. It would take a major disaster to lose it now.
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 11:14:14 PM Report
It's done folks. Norther Ontario gold. Congratulations to Brad Jacobs and his rink. His uncle Al, a former Brier contender must be very proud of his Brier champion nephew.
nanag 3/10/2013 11:14:47 PM Report
Way to go TEAM JACOBS YAH WHOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Spellchecker 3/10/2013 11:16:53 PM Report
Sorry guys, meant to say nephewS and Ryan too, of course. It's a team effort and well done.