Left Winger 3/2/2013 7:04:16 AM Report
hey where are all the armchair generals, must be still sleeping,
Man rw what a piece of work you are, I'm surprised you didn't suggest throwing that gramma under the bus.
You sir are a chip off of the old headed harper block....squared head and all, must of been a really chore for your mom when you were born getting those sharp points of your big head out.
I feel for any kids you may have had.. because you are just one hateful old bast@@d just like your hero herr harper. Yaavolt herr commandant...
pretty soon he and you will want everyone jackbooting to your tune..sad state this once beautiful and proud country is in with the likes of you two spewing your hatred and intolerance...hope you have a crappy day and never need compassion from anyone because IMO you do not deserve it....
Grump 3/2/2013 7:19:04 AM Report
Wow rw I think you have p****D the Lefties off. Speaking of your hero Steve, I see he has dropped all his law and order crap and his Senate reform. Now he is not kicking in the Fed's portion for highways through town. That is a little hard to take after the Billions they dump into the general fund from gas tax revenue that was put on to build and maintain highways. Now we are deeper in debt than ever before, our credit rating is down but I still hear that old neo-con rah, rah , rah. I wish one of you faithfull would explain how electing a stump and being with the ruling party makes us winners. By the way he is still spending many millions of dollars of taxpayer's money on self advertising
flyhawk25 3/2/2013 8:02:24 AM Report
It's Saturday kids!
And that means we are only a week away from the Winter Summit.
Here's am opportunity to slide out from behind your keyboard and drop in to the Water Tower Pub any time after 1:00 to meet and chat with those folks many of us have only met on here.
So far the only regular opting to stay close to home is Spelly. Seems he's going to wait for the ice in the harbor to melt.He will be missed.
old-cat33 3/2/2013 8:40:17 AM Report
Mornin people: What ever they put in that flu shot WORKS! I had it for a week!!!
I think all of Northern Ontario should rise up and battle the Feds about our part of the country.
The baby boomer truck drivers are set to retire and no one is taking up that trade so it's back to the rail system again.The government will have to twin the railways between here and Toronto??
right wing 3/2/2013 8:44:48 AM Report
"Man rw what a piece of work you are, I'm surprised you didn't suggest throwing that gramma under the bus."
Not that I mind being attacked...I am more than used to it on this site.
I've had better than you try it.
I do however mind when the attacker does not make it clear what the attack is for.
Throw gramma under a bus?
I mean if gramma deserved it...but,
what the f*ck is your rant really about?
I get the general attacks on being conservative those are typical.
...or is this just retaliation cause I nailed your ass with the Chief Louie info...you remember you refused to respond to it.
right wing 3/2/2013 8:50:42 AM Report
"Wow rw I think you have p****D the Lefties off."
Then I have done my due diligence.
...and sometimes I'm not even sure how or why.
Lefties are like old dynamite, you have to handle them carefully or they suddenly explode...wound tight and full of illusions, add a little reality and Bang!....all those fuzzy wuzzy feelings go up in smoke.
Mr. Poster 3/2/2013 8:57:00 AM Report
The "girls" are at one another already.
Left Winger 3/2/2013 9:00:09 AM Report
rw quit patting yourself on the back you sanctimounious piece of crap. no it was not over the chief louis bs you posted.
I tire of your holier than though bs that you continously post on this site, must be nice to be retired and able to play on this blog all day and think you are some sort of intellect, news flash you could never cut it in the big boys world hence your need to post on this backwater, knuckle dragging site. You are so full of yourself it makes me want to puke, now run along and change your diaper old man.....
right wing 3/2/2013 9:14:04 AM Report
Well thanks for clearing that up.
As I thought, the Chief Louie stuff... really pissed you off eh.
Hey, facts are facts and Chief Louie criticized his own...some, such as yourself, just can't take it.
...and I'm not retired.
...old man...I guess there a lot of us "old men" on here, if 53 is old, so you're what, around 33, 34...computer, moms basement. I get it.
Hey they're hiring cab drivers.
I could hook you up, a friend owns one of the companies.
You have a nice day now...and try not to be so bitter.
right wing 3/2/2013 9:16:38 AM Report
...I think L.W's mom peed in his Count Chocula this morning.
right wing 3/2/2013 9:46:05 AM Report
So the Pope turns in his red magic shoes, no clicking his heels and getting back to Kansas.
What is with smashing his ring.
Does he have a magic pill in it like Underdog.
What is with that...
Left Winger 3/2/2013 9:59:35 AM Report
typical rw response... can picture you sitting there patting yourself on the back..boy I sure put him in place with that baseement and taxi driver comment...some old bs you spew daily on here, must be feeling really superior to your other lowly minions...see how I put him in his placeguys...wank...wank,
keeping pullin the pud chum... old stevie boy would be proud of you...hey here's an idea why not try to resurect the reform party that old stevie loved so much or better yet do us all a favour and head out to Alberta I'm sure you would fit in quite nicely out there.
right wing 3/2/2013 10:04:43 AM Report
I guess, if that's the way you feel.
Was it your gramma that I supposedly threw under a bus?
Nobody left to pay your internet bill?
Show up at the summit, they can pass the hat, left and right.
sweetc 3/2/2013 10:05:42 AM Report
ho....hum..... same s....!! Different day.
right wing 3/2/2013 10:06:47 AM Report
...I believe I hit a nerve with the basement comment.
right wing 3/2/2013 10:12:30 AM Report
1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d t0 g37 l41d.
Wisenheimer 3/2/2013 10:21:43 AM Report
The Feds have a mandate to bring us back to surplus. The Ontario Liberals, not so much, as they have racked 15 billion in debt assuaging the needs of their supporters. To not wind up like Greece and Detroit the Province and our fair city need to deal with over spending on non-essentials. One man's essential is another man's entitlement.
right wing 3/2/2013 10:24:43 AM Report
You mean solar panels and wind mills won't do it?
Jimssm 3/2/2013 10:51:18 AM Report
"The Feds have a mandate to bring us back to surplus"
So when are they going to start ?
Compare the national debt when Stephen Harper took office to now.
Historically, Conservatives get us into debt, Libs get us out. Look it up.
I guess they have just always had bad luck when they were in office, you know bad economies and stuff like that.
Jimssm 3/2/2013 10:53:19 AM Report
Anyways, politics and politicians...same old same old.
Change the party, change the leader....same old crap.
statusquo 3/2/2013 11:19:00 AM Report
well...it certainly looks like everyone is in a splendid mood today.
Birthcanals, grannies and basements are discussed in a jovial, light hearted fashion.
I shall be back later....."Say Yes To The Dress" re-runs are on!
Ernest Raymond 3/2/2013 11:32:02 AM Report
Why are the Greeks always at the forefront of everything modern? Culture, plumbing, democracy, debt... watch the Greeks to see what's next on the modern horizon!
Wisenheimer 3/2/2013 11:40:12 AM Report
jimssm .. upcoming budget due in March. Get out the Kleenex.
Jimssm 3/2/2013 11:58:50 AM Report
I won't need kleenex as I don't need the gov't for anything.
I will get out the disinfectant, though.
Voiceofreason 3/2/2013 12:37:41 PM Report
rw, it's amazing the insults these lefties throw at us and apparently we're the ones who insult them all of the time. It really is true rw, if you can't make an honest living yourself, steal it from the people who do!
Grump 3/2/2013 12:55:19 PM Report
Sheesh now the right wingers are crying because someone hurt their feelings. Hell here I thought they didn't have any. Wisen what part of economics don't you understand? Harper has run up so much debt and mismanaged the economy so badly that he now has to cut back on his pet project "Law and Order". The Canadian Bond market has been downgraded so the interest will be climbing. If he set out to screw things up he has suceeded wonderfully. This fellow is making Mulroney look good. LMAO.
Bob the builder 3/2/2013 1:16:33 PM Report
right wing You asked why is the Pope's ring destroyed? His ring has the symbol of St. Peter the fisherman and his name around the circumference of the ring. When a Pope dies, or in this case resigns, his ring is destroyed in front of all the cardinals in order to prevent his ring from being used to stamp older documents.
Try and google "Pope's ring"
statusquo 3/2/2013 1:34:52 PM Report
Give up already. They'll never get it.
Out of the past 30 fiscal years, the governments of Canada have run a surplus for only 11 years with all of them (except two) under Paul Martin as either Minister of Finance under Chretien or Prime Minister.
The best year was in 2000 - 2001 when we had a 20 billion surplus.
In comparison the worst was 09-10, approx 60 billion in the hole! A deficit achieved in record time.
The notion that conservative governments are fiscally astute is a myth that refuses to die.
Canada under Harper is being sold out and this current government is damaging Canada in ways we will have to deal with for decades to come.
It may be a "majority" government but the fact remains that the "majority" of Canadians never voted those morons in.
flyhawk25 3/2/2013 2:20:07 PM Report
SQ...most Canadians don't parse the political landscape much.
However just ask the average person if they are better or worse off since Harper and McGuinty took office.
We are seeing the reality of fiscal stupidity both at the federal and provincial levels.
Government spending is out of control. But that mirrors the personal habits of most of us.
The attitude is - enjoy it now and worry about it later.
Well later is here.
It doesn't take a political scientist to follow the money trail.
If there are votes in it spend money to keep the power.
Sadly we got what we deserved.
Now we have to figure out which of the lesser evils we want.
Jimssm 3/2/2013 3:08:28 PM Report
Governments don't govern......
....they just do whatever it takes to line the pockets of their cronies and get themselves re-elected.
That's for the next guy.
Wisenheimer 3/2/2013 3:24:57 PM Report
I do give Paul Martin credit for pulling Canada's bacon out of the fire. I also recall his Liberal roadies screaming bloody murder at the medicine required.
Currently he is shuttling back and forth to the U.K. advising them on how he did it. A much better Finance Minister than P.M. So it goes.
learningaswego 3/2/2013 3:49:07 PM Report
I was a fan of Paul Martin as Finance Minister too; but to judge any government or their budgets, you have to consider the context.
In 2000-01 the economy was booming, just about everywhere, and had been for a few years. So just about any Finance Minister could deliver good numbers under those conditions.
In 2008-09 we had just experienced -, with most of the rest of the world - THE worst financial meltdown since the Great Depression. We had a minority government, and the opposition DEMANDING "economic stimulus" (read: the government spends money it doesn't have). I remember the Lying Liar Jack Layton spouting on tv he was demanding stimulus spending of $40 Billion or so.
All Is Well 3/2/2013 4:18:17 PM Report
Weisen, Ontario deficit is at $11.3B, not the $18B you mentioned a couple of days ago, nor the $15B which you posted today.
Voiceofreason 3/2/2013 4:18:36 PM Report
Learning, this is a conspiracy according to Liberals everywhere. When they were in power, they had a surplus because they did their job better than the Conservatives could. That why we now have a deficit, right?
The fact that one of the worst recessions of the century hit us recently has nothing to do with it ;)
Anyone who needs more explanation than that needs to take a long walk on a short plank.
Wisenheimer 3/2/2013 4:21:42 PM Report
"As finance minister Martin made huge cuts scaling down the government to 1951 levels. His policy of cuts endangered the provinces ability to pay for social programs, health care and public infrastructure. In 1998 Martin introduced a balanced budget, an event that occurred twice in 36 years before 1997. In 2002 Moody's restored debt ratings to AAA. Martin was responsible for lowering Canada's debt to GDP ratio from 70% to less than 50. Martin is lauded in business and finance circles for the tough stances which made Canada a leader in the G7". The U.S. should ring him up!
AceOfBass 3/2/2013 4:29:08 PM Report
Left Wing,enlighten us with what PM Harper has done to upset you.
I agree with right wing and learnaswego and their comments.
Taliban Jack Layten was no prize and neither were his two coalition buddit
Thank goodness Conservatives were in charge.The opposition cried for the stimulus spending.Now that its time to start paying it back they are complaining about the debt.
Things need to be cut and unnecessary spending stopped.Yes things will get tough and the left wing idiots will do what they do best whine, bitch complain and blame Harper.
Harper is the best PM in the past 50 years. Have a nice day lefties.
statusquo 3/2/2013 4:31:49 PM Report
Politics aside for a second,
The global financial situation is without a doubt a mess!
If we think that as Canadians we are somewhat shielded from the inevitable fall out then we are delusional.
What I would advise ordinary folks to do is to get out of debt as fast as possible. And by that I mean all debt, consumer and mortgage debt. Use the opportunity now with the current low interest rates. Forget about RRSP contributions if you have any sort of debt.
Unless you're a savvy investor bank rates and mutual fund returns on your RRSP's will be negated or even eaten away by inflation.
Do with less and be prepared to work way past 65 as the times when government will take care of you is quickly coming to an end.
This situation was inevitable due to globalization and the zeal to de regulate everything .
It is what it is and to think that voting in some party will make things better is a pipe dream. Rare is the politician with a social conscience and the few that have it are being viciously sabotaged by various interest groups (see Obama).
There is a documentary called "A place At The Table" that chronicles the plight of millions of American kids that are under-nourished.
That a country as powerful as the U.S has folks going hungry shows how the so-called free market economy has not worked and will never work!
Surely, they can't all be lazy. Surely they can't all be solely responsible for their plight. Not on this scale.
The current economic disaster was not caused by free loading lazy asses, petty criminals or "lefties" or "righties" for that matter.
It was a disaster waiting to happen due to irresponsible and greedy financial institutions, playing with money they don't own and gambling without any regard of the consequences . An unregulated orgy of derivatives, hedge funds and sub prime mortgages.
Over the last 30 or so years the chasm between the really rich and the really poor has widened exponentially and the middle class has been decimated.
Something is off....really off!
And rather than finding a solution, partisan politics are the soup de jour, in here, our own little microcosm of arm chair know-it-alls and in Ottawa and, more seriously and with far reaching consequences, in Washington.
If I wasn't in this show, I'd be greatly enetertained watching it on TV as a new reality show called "F_cked"!
Voiceofreason 3/2/2013 4:36:01 PM Report
Want to hear a Liberal scream? Talk about how you want to privatize provincial liquor sales.
Of course, they'll tell you the LCBO employees are very responsible with checking ID. Privatizing liquor sales would have a detrimental impact on the public because private liquor stores won't identify people who are not of age (because, you know, they wouldn't be subject to the same laws regarding liquor sales to minors).
But it has nothing to do with the 100% tax markup the government hauls in on each liquor sale. That would be preposterous.
Voiceofreason 3/2/2013 4:38:01 PM Report
Ace, agreed on all accounts.
gcubed 3/2/2013 4:42:08 PM Report
Excellent analysis Statusquo! Bravo!
shakespeare 3/2/2013 4:56:29 PM Report
Voice: you are siding with a guy whose dog's intelligence exceeds his and has a Village People fetish.
Now, I don't want to burst your little bubble, but I am a liberal and since I came to Canada I have been in favour of the LCBO and beer stores going private. Hell you can buy your groceries, beer, wine and liquor in the supermarkets in the U.K.
In a novel called L'Etranger (the Stranger) by Albert Camus, a man without any real feelings and who is sentenced to death for shooting a man on a beach without really knowing why, has his epiphany at the end when he looks forward to being greeted with shouts of hatred as he goes to his execution. It means that his life has meaning. There may be posters on here who have that same existential urge: "I am despised; therefore I am"
Very upset that Justin Bieber had a disappointing 19th birthday.
I got over it by having a wonderful day skiing and meeting the charming Skipper Dave,again.
statusquo 3/2/2013 5:06:23 PM Report
How's your acid reflux?
"sparks7 2/28/2013 11:32:14 PM Report
You and Status Quo,,
like to use magniloquent words as apposed to flummery.Do you do it to flummox us? Or do you just like to create imbroglios for the fun of it ? Couple of bigtime gas bags as far as I can see."
I guess he doesn't like us.
I actually lost some sleep over this.
shakespeare 3/2/2013 5:17:04 PM Report
Stats: I wasn't sure if "Sparks 7" was a referenceto the number of brain synapses that had happened over his lifetime, but, yes, I was deeply disturbed by the criticism that you and I used words that had more than four letters and two syllables. I do believe that he apologised though ... ???
I bet Sparky, Voicy and Acey haven't even read Camus! RW will have read the google summary before long!
statusquo 3/2/2013 5:50:05 PM Report
Fair analysis shakes.
Nothing to add on my part.
He seems to have a penchant for "music"...Good for him....what an interesting and complex personality. He wants to meet "spelly" from what I gather.
I on the other hand do not want to "meet" anybody new....I am just glad to have regular bowel movements.
flyhawk25 3/2/2013 6:04:53 PM Report
It is so refreshing to return from the early spring chill to actually read a bit of thoughtful discourse.
At one point this morning 50% of the postings were from our self anointed resident expert. About nothing.
I agree with SQ. As difficult as it is to think - much less write - we are in a world of trouble.
We can keep mega-sizing our food and our SUVs but at some point we must face the reality of the world we have created.
We are living in a world of denial. Not unlike that naqging pain that we finally have diagnosed as life threatening, we delude ourselves into believing that 'the sun's gonna come out tamarra'.
It is 'tamarra'. And we may not like what the morning brings.
nanag 3/2/2013 7:14:30 PM Report
Penguins and Canadians game waaaayyyy better than "say yes to the dress" re-runs
Grump 3/2/2013 7:30:32 PM Report
Voice there was a thought forming in my head as I read through the posts. The thought was that you were starting to overtake Ace as resident idiot. Then lo and behold I come across a post by yourself teaming up with Ace. Congratulations ,ten plus ten teamed up would get you an IQ of 20. WOW. Carry on making an ass of yourself.
trevone 3/2/2013 7:43:45 PM Report
I could'nt quite figure out why right wing was defending local taxi firms so strongly. Now he has made the issue clear. He has friends who are fleecing the Soo. The more I hear about this the more I am disgusted.
Voiceofreason 3/2/2013 8:02:00 PM Report
Grump, keep telling yourself that. Maybe it will be true one day...
shakespeare 3/2/2013 8:23:59 PM Report
Voicy: I think Grump has a point. Pharm.D doesn't quite cut the mustard!
mallet 3/2/2013 8:52:56 PM Report
I read your discourse and admire and agree with it mostly, it is a fine piece of analytical work. Plus I like the conclusion. The only bit I have a little bit of a problem with is taking advantage of the low bank rates, forgive me for being a bit of a devils advocate here, but as soon as the BoC and chartered banks see this type of trend they will be jacking up the interest rates as soon and as quick as they can. I can remember, back in the 80's when mortgage rates were in the 20% plus range, which was great if you had money to invest or lots of RRSP's. Now reducing personal debt is great and I whole heartedly agree with you, however most people are in debt for consumer items, which if not being bought will slow the economy, which in turn leads to more unemployment, and on and on and on. Also you have to remember that if people use their savings/RRSP's to pay off debts then they are vulnerable to not having sufficient for their retirement, which means they will work longer and then take/keep jobs from the next generation. As simple as it sounds to pay off all your debts, it can have a devastating effect on the countrys economy, banks will not have the money to lend out to people starting businesses, or companies wishing to expand, or home buyers, and this is the ripple effect. I know the BoC can print more money but you are then devaluing you currency, and this too can have an adverse effect. I wish I had a real answer to the financial situation that countries have got themselves into, but the only real answer is for the general population not to ask/want/demand services of government which have been provided in abundance. Now which have to be cut, (apart from the Senate which should go) what next? It is your choice if you want a government balanced budget!!!
Grump 3/2/2013 9:22:16 PM Report
Mallet how about cutting the millions that Harper is spending on self advertising for starters. Also how about cutting Civil Servants, the 375,000. whose average wage of 114,000 per annum that the Canadian taxpayers are coughing up for. Maybe we should not have let Harper play big shot for Bush and drag us into Afghanistan. These would just be a few of the easier ones that wouldn't reduce the average CAnadians standard of living much just Steve's ego.
Voiceofreason 3/2/2013 9:54:08 PM Report
Yeah I forgot shakey, I could have a degree in astrophysics and still be the dumbest person on here because I have realistic political views.
right wing 3/2/2013 9:57:07 PM Report
Nice to know I'm such an enigma when I'm not ever around.
I see the resident chicken-hawk has rang in...spinning and thrashing around like the little ankle biter he is.
Bob the builder...thanks for the info on Pope on a rope.
You have fleece?
Must be from your sheep.
Shakey....you do talk about gay folks an awful lot.
...I don't have a dog, will my parrot do?
Hi stats...hows the Life of Brian?
right wing 3/2/2013 10:01:14 PM Report
Apparently we have not come of age until we read something inspiring from Camus.
...when you use a moniker like shakespeare you have to come across sophisticated.
He keeps his Camus books right beside his childhood collection of the Hardy boys...he always envisioned himself as Chet.
mallet 3/2/2013 10:03:29 PM Report
Fine, remove the Ads from TV.. Oh heck, how will the folks who don't read or write know about these programmes, in that case we won't need the programmes will we and we can save on them.. The Civil Servants ( not too many who are civil) how do we cull them? I know, do a time and motion study on them, going to be very hard to see any motion at any time!!
Seriously though there are not many programmes that the various governments run that can be dropped without huge squeals from one lobby group or another, we have come to depend way to much on governments to do what we should be doing for ourselves, we have all come to rely on government to do vitually everything for us, and until that changes there is very little hope that any government will live within its budget...
flyhawk25 3/2/2013 10:08:43 PM Report
Almost twelve hours of peace on here.
Now that the swamp is freezing again we have to endure our resident expert until things thaw tomorrow.
That is the sound of the Spawn of Steve howling at the moon.
Think I'll go trim my toenails and wait for the thaw around noon.
Brianne 3/2/2013 10:25:27 PM Report
Harper is planning on spending a billion on unmanned attack drones for Canada......