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Grace 3/1/2013 6:02:45 AM Report

Happy March 1st In memory of the duck..
QUACK!
nanag 3/1/2013 7:18:11 AM Report

Good Morning Grace

Hey great impression of the duck :)

Have a good day everybody
Grump 3/1/2013 7:27:42 AM Report

Good morning girls and all to come. Have a great day, after all it's friday.
flyhawk25 3/1/2013 7:58:27 AM Report

As happy as I am that it's March 1st it does happen every year.
However - what is unusual is that Clint Eastwood has come out in favor of gay marriage.
That's right. America's favorite Tea Party tough guy has joined the cause.
What's next? Clint starring in 'Brokeback Mountain: The Sunset Years'?
right wing 3/1/2013 8:26:37 AM Report

CBC News

Senate committee rules all but 4 senators meet residency requirements. Brazeau, Duffy, Harb, Wallin undergoing external audits.

Such a HUGE Conservative scandal.
What will the head hunters do now...go back to robo-calls.

Yep, big fish to fry.
right wing 3/1/2013 8:27:29 AM Report

flyhawk

You do know that Clint is an actor... right.
skipper dave 3/1/2013 8:47:55 AM Report

Good morning sweet Soo!
Ah, rw king of minimization when it suits the cause.
BIG BROTHER 3/1/2013 8:48:02 AM Report

Personally, I don't care which stripe they are. It's just nice to see the squirming of those , ah, Senators. Especially in a week when Harper announces his new posse to chase down potential EI frauds.

Hell, if he's looking for a fraud, he need only open his closet door!! Or, look in the mirror!!
BIG BROTHER 3/1/2013 8:53:32 AM Report

Catch a Senator.....pay the owed money using taxpayer money.

Catch an EI claimant......go to court, face jail time.

Two tiered justice. This is how two tiered health care works folks!!
flyhawk25 3/1/2013 9:16:51 AM Report

BB...Orwell explained it best years ago.
We are all equal. Some are just more equal than others.
right wing 3/1/2013 9:38:53 AM Report

skippy

Really now.
Nobody does minimization better then the left, they invented it.
Adscam - claimed it was 1.5 million turned out to be 100+ million.
Gun Registry - 22 million turned into over one billion wasted.
Liberals balanced budget - Raided E.I. and Pension plans.

Minimization at its best.
But lets not compare it doesn't "suit the cause".....
skipper dave 3/1/2013 9:53:48 AM Report

Your "RiGHT" rw, it was we that estimated the cost of the new fighter and the conservatives gawd rest their souls invented the "RESET" button. Must try that RESET response on my former spouse for all the crap I dumped on her.
Hey we going to see you at the summit?
trevone 3/1/2013 9:58:55 AM Report

Took a cab in the Soo for the first time in years. Could not believe the price. Watching the meter run was like watching the slots.
Bill_the_Cat 3/1/2013 10:03:23 AM Report

Governments come and go, but the bureaucracy and civil service unions remain. It is they who filter what information goes to a Minister; and control the implementation of legislation.

They are a social construct unto themselves, and exist only to serve their own ends.

There is a frightening homogeneity of thought in Ottawa amongst the unelected masters.

fly: if Orwell is mentioned, surely the film 'Brazil' best describes the bureaucracy.
realitycheck 3/1/2013 10:03:39 AM Report

"You do know that Clint is an actor... right."

Right Wing:
I thought there was some doubt about that after his performance with the chair.

Bill_the_Cat 3/1/2013 10:08:17 AM Report

The F35's cost is within reasonable estimates, given the timelines involved.

Canada is not paying the full R&D costs--the US and UK are (other NATO allies to a lesser extent). The cost overruns are happening there.

For the record, I advocated purchase of the new F-15 Stealth Eagle. Proven technology and much cheaper to operate and maintain.
Big Bad Bob 3/1/2013 10:17:06 AM Report

As a former bureaucrat who always performed as best he could, never turned a dishonest nickel while doing so, and who never requested any thanks for it, I have only one comment to make on the foregoing post on the subject of civil servants: ” Bullshit!!!”
flyhawk25 3/1/2013 10:20:21 AM Report

Bill...and I advocate paper airplanes. Make them with a printed message -'Warning: Our American friends will bomb you back to the dark ages if you keep this up.'
Problem solved.
right wing 3/1/2013 10:25:13 AM Report

realitycheck

There are some "empty chairs" on this site that I poke at daily just for the entertainment value.
I did not comment on his level of acting, just that he is.
It was in response to the "tough guy".
Eastwood is actually quite the accomplished piano player, sings a bit too.
right wing 3/1/2013 10:28:54 AM Report

trevone

Still cheaper than an impaired charge, unfortunately there is a seemingly never ending group of cement heads that can't seem to grasp that.
Still cheaper than owning a car, depending of course on frequency of use.

theprotector 3/1/2013 10:47:28 AM Report

right wing is at it again sounding like a spoiled little brat "johnny did it so why cant i..." crap again. hey go out and get some exercise you lazy fat cat!
right wing 3/1/2013 11:05:30 AM Report

6th...how's it going today.

I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.
Unsure of what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce.
Are you coming to the summit, we can start a business together, I could rent you out as a decoy for duck hunters.
trevone 3/1/2013 11:05:40 AM Report

right wing: not everyone who needs a cab is impaired. An 85 year old lady I know who lives in the P Patch had to pay $35 just to get to the hospital, a ten minute drive.
flyhawk25 3/1/2013 11:08:04 AM Report

I see that Toronto Mayor Rob Ford is accusing the lefty media of being on a witch hunt over his campaign spending.
That echoes Senator Mike Duffy's refusal to do interviews with certain lefty print reporters.
See a pattern here?
Let's see - you are a political hack who is playing fast and lose with our money. The media nails you.
So now the focus is on the big bad pinko reporters who just want blood - not on the fact that you treat other people's money like it is your own.
Sound like a neo-con anthem?
Get ready for 'Yeah. But not just conservatives do it'.
Boring.
But predictable.
right wing 3/1/2013 11:30:02 AM Report

trevone

Yes I know that.
Selective reading?
That is why I also stated that it is cheaper than having to own and pay for a car depending on the frequency of using a cab.
Insurance, gas, maintenance...these all cost a lot of money when you own a car.
Lets take an insurance policy of 1500.00 per year on a car.
That's about 42 cab rides.
right wing 3/1/2013 11:39:14 AM Report

flyhawk25

Since when did the media become investigative.
They're all hanging at the corner waiting for the "breaking news", facts be dammed.
Those caught with hands in the cookie jar are under investigation and I agree they should be prosecuted to the full extend of the law.
In fact I wish the extend of that law could be further extended with those under a public trust fund.
Your attempt at making a point became moot when you used the term "neo-con anthem"...that anthem has been passed around like a Saturday night hooker... every party has sung it, some a lot more than others, that's all.
Voiceofreason 3/1/2013 11:50:35 AM Report

trevone, If someone doesn't want to pay $35 for a cab ride they can take the bus.
everson 3/1/2013 12:08:50 PM Report

On to more important "STUFF"

How come our deficit is now the biggest in Canadian history. To make matters worse our debt is just outrageous.


DISCUSS please.
everson 3/1/2013 12:21:03 PM Report

theprotector remember this every society has a loud mouth.........right wing is the "so-called know-it-all" mouth on this site. His opinion..his opinion..
skipper dave 3/1/2013 12:40:17 PM Report

Observation - Jeez "Are Dubya" did you put your pecker in nests of yellow jackets? You have hurt some feelings out there and yes I know you can take care of yourself. They are coming out of the woodwork at you. Almost makes me feel sorry for you, I said almost. You ever consider coming over to the left side, we would treat you more humane and certainly wouldn't turn on you the way some of your gang has done to you.
What am I saying? Reset button!
Bastian 3/1/2013 12:43:17 PM Report

Follow this site daily; it appears that there are posters here who are either self-employed or working for companies which have no pension / retirement provisions.

Came across this today...have to admit that I had never heard of it...

"Pooled Registered Pension Plans"

http://www.prppcanada.com/



skipper dave 3/1/2013 12:52:07 PM Report

Deb Matthews, minister of health. I'm still giggling trying to follow the ministers logic. She says that between her and Dave O health care in the Sault is doing fine. In fact the SAH is expecting a surplus as a result of all the cuts they have made and considering we face a 14 Billion dollar deficit this year we should be proud. Oh that's funny the use of the phrase "we are facing" not "we are responsible for". Reset button - that was the other guy who retired, what's his name? Jeez I forget it been so long since the house sat.
skipper dave 3/1/2013 12:59:35 PM Report

I don't know whose more nuttier the provincials or feds? Fly paper aeroplanes sounds like the way to go. Just put down on paper that we are buying thirty of the F35's on the layaway plan. We will take just one for now so McKay can sit in it.
Seriously can I propose we buy 500 F-14 Phantoms on E-Bay surplus. That would scare the bejeesus out of the bad guys. Come on they can't shoot them all down.
theprotector 3/1/2013 1:04:40 PM Report

nope right wing I hate watching people like you eat
flyhawk25 3/1/2013 1:12:13 PM Report

Here's an idea.
Make a woman Minister of Defense. I don't care which one just pick one.
Try to find one who has raised kids and put up with her husband's toys.
Want to bet we'd pull out of the 'mine's bigger than yours' bullshit in a week?
Want to bet the books would get balanced, veterans looked after and our image as a peacekeeping country restored?
Simple.
Logical.
Doomed from the start because the big boys get off on big weapons.
Bill_the_Cat 3/1/2013 1:22:28 PM Report

bbb: huzzah for you.

fly: agreed to a point. There is a tenet in international law, though, that states if you cannot defend your sovereignty over that which you claim, the claim is indefensible. Canada still needs to have the ability to defend its borders. You can't depend on the US to do that, when it is one of the countries denying your sovereignty; your claim on the Northwest Passage is denied by all major Powers.

Besides, there are still NORAD and NATO responsibilies......so sleepy......interoperabilty......zzzzzzz.....treaty commitments........Chinese incursions into Arctic waters.........................
Bill_the_Cat 3/1/2013 1:31:29 PM Report

Defense is expensive. Wait until the bidding starts for new frigates next year. You thought the F35s were a dodgy investment.

To channel BBB: horsepukey. Defense costs skyrocket because politicians stick their noses into R&D. There is some similarity to people designing a custom house--every time a change is made to the plans, there is a knockoff effect down the procurement chain. Ask for enough redesigns, and you can easily treble the original costs. This happens quite frequently in government. The costs of helo replacements changed almost daily because of spec changes coming from Cabinet, irrespective of costs. Politicians just don't get it sometimes.
flyhawk25 3/1/2013 1:56:42 PM Report

Bill...so if we don't 'defend' we lose by default?
So we'll send two Mounties and a missionary to meet the dirty Chinese menace.
There.
We tried. Now call the White House.
Next problem?
Oldie Goldie 3/1/2013 2:22:26 PM Report

Deb Matthews, the new Ontario Minister of Health, and David O. are both dreaming that the New Hospital makes Health Care better in this area.

Now that many from the Old Plummer Hospital have moved into the new Hospital the Deficit will skyrocket again at S.A.H.unless more staff cuts are made and we already have too many staff cuts---Ask any Nurse at S.A.H.

There are still many more Long Term care beds needed and if they don't come the Hospital will have to start their own Long Term Care beds.

The new Long-term Home is already full and many more are needed.
skipper dave 3/1/2013 2:27:42 PM Report

Bill - defence - We can defend (squadron F-35's) or we can populate and develop. So that's why we get all those ads for dating beautiful chinese girls, now that's what I call smart.
Bill_the_Cat 3/1/2013 2:35:15 PM Report

fly: something like that, apparently. You Canadians also have territorial disputes with the US and Denmark. Who intervenes then? France as well, possibly, with St Pierre and Miquelon.

It took armed frigates to scare away Spanish and Portuguese factory trawler ships off the east coast. As I recall, the Spaniards were planning on sending warships to your coast to protect their 'fishing assets'.

And these are 'allies'.

Something has to be spent to defend yourself when the US cannot/will not. The question is whether it is fit for task, or an overbuy. I agree wholeheartedly in not buying the biggest and best; in defence circles this is always a problem, as is spec revisionism.

Now if we could just stop the politicians from p!ssing away money in fruitless wars overseas....
Bill_the_Cat 3/1/2013 2:36:18 PM Report

skipper: I'm all for populating. Not too many chinese girls though--they get terminated before birth. Many many Russians though.
flyhawk25 3/1/2013 2:48:48 PM Report

Unlike the armchair warriors who would commit millions of dollars and the youth of our nation to war I suggest a truly Canadian approach.
It is predicated on the belief that too many of our allies have too much to lose by our defeat.
We are not a super power. So let's not try to be.
Ask our allies for help. Defend what we can with what we can and act like any other small peaceful country.
If by some unfortunate circumstance the bad guys try to inhabit Canada let's just use the terrain and weather to our advantage and fight where we can.
If there is a fight it will be on our perimeter over our resources.
That is a fight we and our friends can win. It is our home field advantage and the bad guys know it.
We don't need subs, jets and frigates for that.
Let's try a little good old Canadian common sense instead of getting John Wayne Syndrome.
Bill_the_Cat 3/1/2013 3:03:06 PM Report

Fly: Agreed. Hence NORAD and NATO. But that does commit you to spending a percentage of GDP. Not that the continental Euro allies spend the required amount. *shrug*

Nunavut 3/1/2013 3:22:26 PM Report

Flyhawk stated “ Defend what we can with what we can and act like any other small peaceful country”…………….BUT we may be a small nation population wise, but we are a huge nation size and border wise.. So your simple solution does not work. We need a solution that covers reasonably all our potential borders . Sovereignty for this large land mass we are proud of costs money. So when there are uninvited guests trying to steal our north and its resources …then we must be able to react....or for that matter, when ten years down the road Quebec tries something sneaky , we have our forces to prevent them from even trying.
Bill_the_Cat 3/1/2013 3:46:15 PM Report

nun: too many people make the false dichotomy of 'Guns or Butter'. In the west, we often hear it as 'Guns or hospital beds'. With good fiscal management we can have both, though not in unlimited quantities.
trevone 3/1/2013 3:49:26 PM Report

Voice of Reason: the lady is 86 years old, has arthritis and cannot walk half a kilometer to a bus stop. You and right wing seem not to be able to focus on a problem without flying off on a tangant about drunk drivers or catching busses. The point is that taxi fares in the Soo are astronomical, I've been researching and that is the problem. Given your stuff on guns the other day and other stuff, I really think you need to change your name to Pillboy!
mallet 3/1/2013 3:57:20 PM Report

Bill...

Give up buddy.One side wants to arm to the teeth the other side wants to send our forces in harms way with the least possible, and will wring their hands and sob when the service people are sent home in bodybags. You cannot win this argument no matter what. I have tried, and it's a losing matter..
gcubed 3/1/2013 4:52:39 PM Report

flyhawk: You mentioned that "we are a small and peaceful country." Nunavut has alrady pointed out that we may be small by population but, in area, we are the second largest in the world and our natural resources are our prime assets. We not only have to be wary of nations that could develop into 'enemies', but we also have to keep a close eye on some of our traditional 'friends'. You say, "We and our friends can win", but some of us do not necessarily put as much trust in our friends to the south as you do. For example, I have seen world maps produced in the U.S.A. that show the arctic archipelago or what we used to call the Baffin Islands as "Disputed Territory." So, if our 'friends' help us out against others, that might be fine, but what if they decide to keep what they rescued? It sometimes seems that Americans feel we would be "liberated" if they absorbed Canada. Some of us may not find that as acceptable as some expatriots would.
flyhawk25 3/1/2013 6:15:18 PM Report

G3...nice to hear from you again.
But please - don't refer to me as an 'expatriot'.
I believe that we should keep an eye on all threatens to our nation - both foreign and domestic.
The issue for me is what is a bigger threat to Canada?
We seem to be preoccupied with defending a practically impossible to defend border while apparent 'loyalists' take our money and freedom.
The question is - which is a more clear and present danger? Foreign nations looking to stake claims to our natural resources like the Europeans two centuries ago or native born sons and daughters stealing from the public purses while smiling on TV?
We don't need mega-machines to protect us from domestic rascals - just the rule of law and dedicated investigators.
I suggest we take the money for one battle wagon made by the lowest bidder and spend it on good internal political fraud investigation.
Our neighbors will help us keep the offshore crazies at bay.
The home grown crooks are our own problem.
old-cat33 3/1/2013 7:40:10 PM Report

trevone: Sometimes my drunken ball team and I would head across the creek for fun and frolics by cab and there used to be a "flat rate" for scooting over the bridge? I think it was $20.00???
skipper dave 3/1/2013 7:45:04 PM Report

Fly I agree with you - Let's let the nation that is in love with guns be policeman. We can always give them a few token ski doo squads to fight in the North. What's a military spec snow machine go for these days $150,000 a piece? Chump change.
nanag 3/1/2013 8:51:27 PM Report

PSSST!!!

I think the Red Roomies have all met with foul play. There has been no posting since Wicket posted at 12:16 today.

Saddle up boys gather the possy.. we need to get to the bottom of this
right wing 3/1/2013 9:42:42 PM Report

trevone

Your information on cab fare is way out in left field.
I can take a cab from the West End to the East End for under forty dollars.
You claim 35.00 from the P-patch to the Hospital????
That must be one nice limo.

right wing 3/1/2013 9:43:50 PM Report

nanag

The Red Roomies are all out at the cyber bar, having cyber cocktails and listening to cyber music.
right wing 3/1/2013 9:53:38 PM Report

...and that is why we don't allow "thinkers" like flyhawk to be in charge of our countries defense.
Hey, how about a fleet of flat back canoes with electric outboards run by solar panels.
A crew of three in each one with twelve gauge shotguns and beer holders....we're golden.
mallet 3/1/2013 9:55:20 PM Report

R W.

I see Obama signed the bill for the reductions to take effect. Maybe they will stop trying to influence other countries with their military power now and let them sort out their own problems. Prehaps that will reduce the Islamic menace a little bit if the U S does not leave a lot of ordinance about or hand it out to groups they hope are friendly..
trevone 3/1/2013 10:10:56 PM Report

right wing: airport to 2nd line $20; airport to Allenside Road $30. Got out at that point and called a friend. Checker Cab. Last night!
right wing 3/1/2013 10:13:20 PM Report

Why didn't you call your friend from the airport.
right wing 3/1/2013 10:17:37 PM Report

Now tell me trevone...how many kilometers do you think it is from the Airport to Allen Side Rd.
How many kilometers do you think it is from the P-Patch to the hospital.
How many kilometers from lets say Goulais Ave to Boundary Rd. (West to East)

Sault Ste. Maire...a 35.00 cab ride to dam near anywhere.
Never go to Toronto and take a cab from the Airport to downtown...they'll be carting you away in a straight jacket.
flyhawk25 3/1/2013 10:22:47 PM Report

trevone...here's some advice.
Don't try facts on someone who makes them up on a whim.
You'll just frustrate yourself.
Trust me on this.
trevone 3/1/2013 10:46:45 PM Report

Friend came but the plane was delayed 3 hours so I didn't want to call him out again. 45 minute taxi drive from Winnipeg to airport at least twice the distance maybe more... $65. I figured it would cost at least $70 to my place in the soo given the meter .. Stop being such a prick right wing. You defend the status quo on climate change, road conditions,just about everything and think everything is just fine. A typical conservative. Thank God others think differently or we'd be still living like cave men! Soo taxi rates are highest in the province!
nanag 3/1/2013 10:56:58 PM Report

If I may throw in my nickel..(can't say 2 cents worth,,since I am rounding up)..

a taxi meter continues to add up.. even when a taxi is not moving... distance is not the only determining factor. When you get stopped by a train for instance the meter will keep adding up (if it's a long train a cabby can pause the meter, then resume when in motion again)some do/some don't

I do think $35 is excessive though. I took a fella from Queen/Boundry to the airport for about $50 a couple years ago.

with the cost of gas .. everything goes up
Brianne 3/1/2013 11:55:17 PM Report

trevone..... that price is ridiculous !

I took a cab from downtown, station mall to the hospital, it was under $20........union.
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