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View Room Comments for Wednesday, Feb. 27 2013

Wednesday, February 27, 2013   by: The Soap BoxWelcome to the View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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Grace 2/27/2013 6:43:59 AM Report

Toronto is getting the storm...missed's a good morning!
Mr. Poster 2/27/2013 7:05:17 AM Report

We like to share this kind of weather.
bounder 2/27/2013 7:13:12 AM Report

I don't want to hear about low water levels in the future as every storm that misses us helps to lower the water table.
statusquo 2/27/2013 8:25:59 AM Report

It's pink t-shirt day today. (anti bullying campaign)
I would suggest that the conversation remain civil even in the Blue Room...just for one day.
Having said that, I looked high and low for a pink t-shirt but I couldn't find anything so I decided to "borrow" a pink thong from Darlene. A wee bit tight but surprisingly comfortable. I actually like the feel.
Every once and again throughout the day I may have know...."let the boys out for a walk"....but's for a good cause.
Have a splendid day everyone.
right wing 2/27/2013 8:36:11 AM Report


Won't be much "pink" left on the ass floss by the end of your work day.
right wing 2/27/2013 9:07:49 AM Report


Under President Obama Russia is getting rewarded for bad behavior.
Obama is way out of his league attempting to play "chess" with Putin.
Spellchecker 2/27/2013 9:19:42 AM Report

Good one, right wing. If the lefties bother to read it it will be a good lesson for them on their hero's failing foreign policy.
right wing 2/27/2013 9:33:54 AM Report


The resident spin doctor(s)should be along with a "it's all Bush's fault" retort anytime now.
flyhawk25 2/27/2013 10:16:36 AM Report

In the news that Canada-centric readers will ignore there is change coming in the US over gun control laws.
NY mayor Bloomberg is spending millions to support opponents of the NRA screwball defense of the 2nd Amendment.
Another win yesterday for disgraced Jesse Jackson old seat in Chicago.
Hizzoner has the money and means to cherry pick candidates who are opposed to the current laws on guns.
He knows how to win this battle - one seat at a time.
There is hope.
Voiceofreason 2/27/2013 10:43:55 AM Report

fly, so the fact that Chicago is already a gun free zone and leads the country in murders doesn't phase you in the least?
Voiceofreason 2/27/2013 10:47:31 AM Report

Plus, I'd like to see how Obama passes new legislation with a predominantly republican senate.
flyhawk25 2/27/2013 11:01:24 AM Report

VOR...that's what they're working on - changing the Senate one seat at a time over a hot issue.
Chicago is the poster city for what does not work.
But the heat is on Boehner's NRA fans and Tea Party iconoclasts.
Politicians may not know where their constituents live but they see voting trends.
The message is simple - tighten up gun controls or start looking for another job.
The NY mayor knows better than most what works - fear of losing an election.
Voiceofreason 2/27/2013 11:12:53 AM Report

Ah yes, how daft of me. Politicians will do anything for a vote. Carry on.
right wing 2/27/2013 11:13:53 AM Report

...change the 2nd amendment, O.K. good luck with that.


"The fact that".....
Entirely true but good luck with facts on a'd have more success with changing the 2nd amendment.

Voiceofreason 2/27/2013 11:20:03 AM Report

rw, I know. My posts yesterday did the trick in shutting some mouths, or should I say preventing a few keystrokes?
learningaswego 2/27/2013 11:25:34 AM Report

VoR - great points.
The fact that a city with the most restrictive gun laws still has one of the highest gun crime rates in the country - maybe in the western hemisphere - would be completely lost on lefty "logic".

Lefty logic is ruled by what "feels" good, or sounds or looks good - facts, evidence, what works, be damned.
right wing 2/27/2013 11:34:49 AM Report

There is a direct link to increased gun violence and poverty.
Since poverty is way up in the U.S. due to the economy could one not conclude that this increase in gun violence is Obama's fault due to his failure in leading his country to better economic times.
Now how is that for lefty logic.
It's all Obama's fault.

Voiceofreason 2/27/2013 11:35:03 AM Report

Learning, thanks! It's sad that Canadians fell victim to this kind of mentality with the Firearms Act being proposed in 1995. I hope that the U.S. doesn't fall victim to the same ridiculous "feel good, sound good" type of legislation. Hopefully that's on the reverse with the demise of the long-gun registry and Vic Toews trying to loosen some nonsense restrictions.
flyhawk25 2/27/2013 11:42:35 AM Report

Even a minimal understanding of the 2nd amendment would reveal that its intent was for it to be coupled with a strong militia because there was no standing American army.
I have never suggested changing the amendment. Just viewing it in more than a Coles Notes context.
Most would agree that a world class military has taken the need for a strong militia.
But that kind of deductive reasoning appears to be lost on some.
Voiceofreason 2/27/2013 11:44:01 AM Report

fly, define a militia. It can be decentralized, as in the case of Switzerland. Every citizen can be called into action if government fails.
right wing 2/27/2013 11:49:48 AM Report

Trying to control gun violence perpetrated by violent people by increasing the "paperwork" needed for law abiding citizens to acquire a firearm is like trying to prevent an habitual impaired driver from driving by taking away his drivers license.
right wing 2/27/2013 11:52:25 AM Report


...and that militia is to fight against any government (including the world class military) that gets "to big for its britches."
theprotector 2/27/2013 11:57:23 AM Report

what a bunch of red neck uneducated, illinformed crap
Voiceofreason 2/27/2013 11:59:29 AM Report

theprotector... it seems you are uneducated. You can't even put together a proper sentence.
right wing 2/27/2013 11:59:58 AM Report

...6th, why don't you try and enlighten us then with some of your very informed views and facts.
It would be a breath of fresh air as opposed to your one line posts telling all how we are full of crap.
right wing 2/27/2013 12:02:02 PM Report

...ring in the music from Final Jeopardy.
6th...we await your informed response.
northernmale 2/27/2013 12:05:06 PM Report

Ok correct me if I am wrong . Is the consevations job not to protect our wet lands and areas where we have wild life.. And also if you are not doing anything wrong why worry if the meetings are recorded?? Also when someone sits as chair of this committe, and at the time agreas to the building on wet lands, and has family is related to the builder is this not a conflict.. Just look at the way this person runs his council where he lives.. He likes to bully things his way.. Very sad for this committe to have allowed this, when they have stopped building in areas for a lot less.Maybe its time conflict was looked at here..
realitycheck 2/27/2013 12:46:36 PM Report

You would help your case if you would provide names and how the parties are related.
BIG BROTHER 2/27/2013 12:48:08 PM Report

fly is absolutely correct. The Constitution need not be changed. There is such a thing as strict interpretation and loose interpretation of the Const. That is why it is to the benefit of the sitting gov't. to appoint Supreme Court Judges of their ilk. They will interpret according to their stripes.

Obviously, the interpretation of a well armed militia can be defined with a stricter interpretation.
Grump 2/27/2013 12:49:05 PM Report

Voice I'm not a big fan of the Protector but in this case he is right. You malcontent clowns spew the right wing horse manure endlessly which I have to believe make rw's posse the uneducated lot on here. Now carry on I'm back to work.
Voiceofreason 2/27/2013 1:21:16 PM Report

Grump, coming from the guy who wanted to fight someone at the city dump nothing you say means anything.
Voiceofreason 2/27/2013 1:23:08 PM Report

Maybe you should educate yourself as to why exactly the 2nd amendment was created.
theprotector 2/27/2013 1:27:27 PM Report

LOL @ voiceofreason and right wing

anything put a lable on someone, reminds me of a particular time of history

northern, the conservatives in this country do not care about wetlands or environment or your fuzzy little bunnies, they want an all white, all paved canada! Wake-up just read some of their posts on this site.
Voiceofreason 2/27/2013 1:33:31 PM Report

rw, I guess they're right when they say you can't fix stupid or ugly. I hope Grump and theprotector were blessed with looks.
Brianne 2/27/2013 1:38:48 PM Report

ohhhhhhhhhhhh scandalicious !
theprotector 2/27/2013 1:44:43 PM Report

Hey did you see the protests on the east coast about the "poggy cops" making home visits? We dont have to worry here I heard they shut down these guys in Sault Ste. Marie with all the budget cuts.
theprotector 2/27/2013 1:51:45 PM Report

LOL @ voice
cathyh 2/27/2013 2:08:02 PM Report

theprotector: Yes, we did see that news the other day. Mr. Harper should send the "fraud cops" to visit the senators homes who have been stealing money from the canadian taxpayers for years by including their cottages and apartments in other provinces as their main residences and benefitting from "write offs" for expenses charged against those said residences.
nanag 2/27/2013 2:08:04 PM Report

I hate to say it out loud but the best post so far today has to be ........

Statusquo on bullying.. the visual is interesting to say the least.. right up there with his morning shower revelation....Stats you are such a perv.. but it sure beats the political stuff :)
right wing 2/27/2013 2:20:27 PM Report


No surprise that you came back with nothing.
Things are looking up for you have Grump the Dump fighter on your side.

Excuse me but...Bahahahahha.
right wing 2/27/2013 2:22:47 PM Report

"Obviously, the interpretation of a well armed militia can be defined with a stricter interpretation."

Good luck I say to the political party that tries to change that interpretation.
theprotector 2/27/2013 2:40:23 PM Report

cathy not talking about the duffy gang (who by the way is skinnier than voice and rw) talking about uic
AceOfBass 2/27/2013 3:25:22 PM Report

Why is a Ward 1 Councillor pushing to create a position Deputy Mayor? Is so that his counterpart would get the position because of seniority?

Now under the Municipal Act there is no such thing as a Deputy Mayor? So why is this even being discussed.

This City council needs to give its head a shake.

section 226 Substitution explains this.

cathyh 2/27/2013 3:28:46 PM Report

Theprotector: I know you are posting about the EI subject. If you can post about EI then I can post about the crooked senators, no?
Grump 2/27/2013 3:49:46 PM Report

Voice it's hard to understand how a self professed right winger can also be such a dumb, name calling red neck. Opps sorry I forgot you were trying to imitate your fearless leaders rw, Rush and Harper. P.S. I doubt if I will see you at the next summit but one can dream can't they?
Voiceofreason 2/27/2013 3:56:46 PM Report

Well dumpy Grumpy, whatever you say. You seem to know it all. Sorry, I live out of town. But if I'm in town when one is occurring, I'm sure I'll have no problem attending.
Voiceofreason 2/27/2013 3:59:08 PM Report

P.S. calling me a redneck really shows you know nothing about me. I've probably met achievements you will never see. And no, I don't mean winning a boxing match at the city dump.
right wing 2/27/2013 4:20:24 PM Report


As you are one of the kings of "name calling" do you see any irony when you state that others are name callers...any..anything...a little bit, no.
I thought as much.
Voiceofreason 2/27/2013 4:25:22 PM Report

Sault Ste. Marie is a beautiful city and sometimes I wish I didn't move rw, but every so often people like Grump remind me why I'm slightly glad I did.
right wing 2/27/2013 4:31:50 PM Report


Well you don't have to come back to meet Grump, I have some video.
Voiceofreason 2/27/2013 4:37:16 PM Report

rw, I think that was even being a little too nice.
Grump 2/27/2013 4:41:12 PM Report

Voice money talks and B.S. walks so tell us a nice fairy tale of all your wonderfull achievements. rw You are at least trying when you stick up for your handicapped posse. Well done old right wing hero. You sure can pick the winners. LMAO
Voiceofreason 2/27/2013 4:43:57 PM Report

Are you saying I'm not well to do, Grump?
Grace 2/27/2013 4:48:36 PM Report

White House, Republicans dig in ahead of budget talks
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Positions hardened on Wednesday between President Barack Obama and Republican congressional leaders over the budget crisis even as they arranged to hold last-ditch talks to prevent harsh automatic spending cuts beginning this week.

Looking resigned to the $85-billion in "sequestration" cuts starting on Friday, government agencies began reducing costs and spelling out to employees how furloughs will work.

Expectations were low that a White House meeting on Friday between Obama and congressional leaders, including Republican foes, would produce any deal to avoid the cuts.
66cherokee 2/27/2013 4:49:09 PM Report

I got a notice that gas was going up in the States. The posibility of up to 10 cents a gallon. I wonder why??????????? Crude is down. So, that means Ontario gas prices are going to go up AGAIN. We, as consumers, are getting taken to the cleaners again. There is no reason why gas should go up. It's just companies wanting to make record profits like the banks do.
Grump 2/27/2013 4:50:04 PM Report

Voice I'm not the one saying anything, you on the other hand suggested you had great achievements, so be proud ,speak up.
Voiceofreason 2/27/2013 4:52:23 PM Report

Grump, if I told you, you wouldn't believe me anyway.
Grump 2/27/2013 5:05:39 PM Report

Voice ,well done you have been to the rw school of ducking out. At 3.59 you stated that you achieved things that I have never seen. Well folks are starting to call rw on that kind of bull so I'm calling you on your's, so as I said before, money talks and B.S. walks. I would ask you to back up your comments or slink off behind your keyboard.
Voiceofreason 2/27/2013 5:06:52 PM Report

Well let's start with formal education. PharmD for me, how about yourself?
right wing 2/27/2013 5:09:53 PM Report


Since you have dragged me into this...exactly what kind of "bull" is it that you claim I have been called on.
right wing 2/27/2013 5:16:13 PM Report


Did you wear a pink shirt today.
...underwear, tee-shirt, bra?
realitycheck 2/27/2013 5:21:06 PM Report

"rw, I guess they're right when they say you can't fix stupid or ugly. I hope Grump and the protector were blessed with looks."

With this kind of stuff you sink to their level and make a mockery of your handle.
Voiceofreason 2/27/2013 5:22:40 PM Report

realitycheck, I'm willing to throw away some of my dignity for a cheap laugh.
right wing 2/27/2013 5:34:51 PM Report


Some people are like slinkies, they're not really good for anything but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
Would it be better to say they are not stupid or ugly they just have really bad luck when it comes to thinking?
When you look at the fact that on the internet you can become anything you want it does make you wonder they choose to be stupid.
I've learned that common sense is like deodorant and those that need it most never use it.
I'm going to try and be nicer but as I've grown older I have learned that pleasing everyone is next to impossible but pissing off everyone is a piece of cake.
What can I say.

right wing 2/27/2013 5:37:29 PM Report

...oh and I forgot to mention...realitycheck, it is good to see that you recognize that going to their level is in "sinking".

Voiceofreason 2/27/2013 5:59:24 PM Report

Well at least he showed up at the dump...
Oldie Goldie 2/27/2013 6:08:07 PM Report

I don't care if you are a rightie or a leftie or inbetween you have to admit that Harper is going to defend his recent appointments to the Senate wherever they are.

That just makes Harper a stubborn old fool just like many of his Senators.

To make a claim that Mike Duffy is a resident of P.E.I.when he spends most of his time in his principal residence in Ottawa---carries an O.H.I.P. card and files his tax returns in Ontario is just a plain dumb statement.

Pamela Wallin has a Condo in Toronto and a Condo in New York but is a representative of Saskatchewan in the Senate is just another dumb statement by Harper that she is a resident of Saskatchewan. She also carries an O.H.I.P. card and files tax statements in Ontario.

The Senator representing Nunavut has rarely ever seen Nunavut.

One Senator a few years ago spent 9 months of the year in Mexico but that one can't be blamed on Harper because he is a Liberal.

How much more evidence do we need that these Senators are cheating Canadians and Harper defends them !

Harper campaigned on changing the Senate
He has a majority so we can't blame the Opposition now.

I don't believe that any Province would veto a Constitutional Amendment to change or abolish the Senate so let's go Harper---DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT !
AceOfBass 2/27/2013 6:22:40 PM Report

Doing more research I found this

section 242 A Municipality may,by bylaw or resolution,appoint a member of the council to act in place of the head of council or other member of council designated to preside at meetings in the municipality's procedure by law when the head of council or designated member is absent or refuses to act or the office is vacant,and while so acting such member has all the powers and duties of the head of council or designated member ,as the case maybe.

Rumors have been going around that the mayor has been missing in action since the election in 2010. This could explain why Councillors have brought up this issue.
right wing 2/27/2013 6:34:14 PM Report

Oldie Goldie

I agree that anybody on the Senate that has spent tax payers money in an inappropriate way should be called on it.
That being said...Harper has not defended any of them on this issue.
He did state that the travel expenses of Wallin looked to be in order and in line with others travel expenses, that was it.
Wallin is third in line behind two Liberal members of the Senate in travel expenses.
...and just for the record, I do agree that the Senate should be dismantled and was disappointed that Harper did not stick to this promise.
right wing 2/27/2013 6:35:33 PM Report

Ace..."missing in action"...funny stuff!
trevone 2/27/2013 6:41:36 PM Report

So Voice has started to boast. He is there fore insecure. His and right wings arguments on Chicago have one fatal flaw of logic. I wonder if they know what it is..
right wing 2/27/2013 6:48:10 PM Report

Ahem, as most of you know I am a staunch conservative.
So it pains me to say this but I believe some of you are wrongfully burning David O at the stake.
To state that everything that David O worked for and brought to the Sault (and he did bring a basket full) was only to ensure his re-election sure is painting one huge self important portrait of the Sault riding in the mind of the Liberals.
I for one believe that David O is/was a hard working person that really cares about the Sault and did everything he absolutely could for this town.
Now McGuinty...lets tar and feather that idiot.
Voiceofreason 2/27/2013 7:18:27 PM Report

Alright trevone, please enlighten us with your logic...
Voiceofreason 2/27/2013 8:05:58 PM Report

Like I said, this gun ban will do NOTHING. If theres an argument to be had let's hear it. Otherwise, I'm tired of people who have never touched a gun in their life telling me about how the laws should be surrounding them.
skipper dave 2/27/2013 8:55:48 PM Report

There's a discernable pattern emerging on this site .
In the AM there seems to be some intelligent discussion by those with leftist social leanings.
After lunch there is a lull then the ultra right lead by "Are Dubya" and his posse spend the whole PM dissing the mornings discussion by name calling and pumping each other up with how big bad asses they are and how stupid the morning crew are.
This is the level of intelligence of the hole in the head gang as I quote their leader "I piss everybody off" and your right cause the AM crowd left before lunch it gets really stupid!
skipper dave 2/27/2013 8:56:45 PM Report

P.S. forgot have a good night - happy face.
Resident 2/27/2013 9:34:46 PM Report

Skipper Dave: I agree. I find it a bit nauseating so skip over much of the right wing gratuitous name calling and belittling.
Bill_the_Cat 2/27/2013 9:38:36 PM Report

resident: the only name-calling I saw today was the 'redneck' label. I've seen worse from both sides: today has been rather civil.
nanag 2/27/2013 10:02:13 PM Report

Like I said earlier the best crap on here today was Statusquo talking about his pink thong and "letting his boys out for a walk" it

Most of you folks on here are way to uptight and a bit anal.. lighten up kids .. life is to short :)
nanag 2/27/2013 10:09:35 PM Report

Do let me make a correction it should be "too" not "to"
flyhawk25 2/27/2013 10:09:37 PM Report

VoF...splendid reasoning.
I've never touched a nuclear bomb so I guess I should not try to have a say in who uses them and when.
Best sleep on it and rant and rave with your gang after morning coffee.
No rush for a cogent response.
Voiceofreason 2/27/2013 11:34:54 PM Report

fly, second amendment wasn't about nuclear bombs. Stop being irate. And you don't have say over who uses them anyway. The U.S. government proved that twice.
Oldie Goldie 2/27/2013 11:40:13 PM Report

Right Wing --I guess you didn't read the latest News Item on Soo
entitled " Harper says all Senators meet residency rule "

If you believe that statement I have a Bridge that you can buy cheaply.

Several News Items have already challenged the Residency rules of several Senators but Harper defends them all !
AceOfBass 2/28/2013 12:55:12 AM Report

Right Wing Flash Bulb Dave has done a lot for this city.
He sold his soul for a cabinet post with the Village People which proves that he was in this thing for himself. Right out of the post the leader of the Village People starts off with a lie which is no better than McGuinty.
Then we have the Dippers who are propping up this disgusting liberal version of the Village People.
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