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anabanana 2/6/2013 5:45:05 AM Report

Good Morning fellow posters,

I just hauled my trash can, to the end of the driveway; for AM pick. It is cold and slippery this morning. I came very close to falling, and breaking my promise.

If you are driving or walking, take care. There is solid ice under the dusting of light snow.

Have a great day

A.
Grace 2/6/2013 7:38:25 AM Report

So we are going to dig into city coffers for a deep sea harbor.
Hope we have a big shovel!
http://news.yahoo.com/2-great-lakes-hit-lowest-water-level-record-233716573.html
Grace 2/6/2013 7:50:46 AM Report


WHY DID MR. ROGERS WEAR A SWEATER?


Captain Kangaroo passed away on January 23, 2004 at age 76,
which is odd, because he always looked to be 76. (DOB: 6/27/27 )

His death reminded me of the following story.

Some people have been a bit offended that the actor, Lee Marvin,
is buried in a grave alongside 3 and 4-star generals at Arlington National Cemetery .
His marker gives his name, rank (PVT) and service (USMC).
Nothing else.

Here's a guy who was only a famous movie star who served his time,
why the heck does he rate burial with these guys?
Well, following is the amazing answer:

I always liked Lee Marvin, but didn't know the extent
of his Corps experiences.

In a time when many Hollywood stars served their country in the armed forces
often in rear echelon posts where they were carefully protected,
only to be trotted out to perform for the cameras in war bond promotions,
Lee Marvin was a genuine hero.
He won the Navy Cross at Iwo Jima .
There is only one higher Naval award... the Medal Of Honor!

If that is a surprising comment on the true character of the man,
he credits his sergeant with an even greater show of bravery.

Dialog from "The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson":
His guest was Lee Marvin...

Johnny said,"Lee, I'll bet a lot of people are unaware
that you were a Marine in the initial landing at Iwo Jima ..
and that during the course of that action you earned
the Navy Cross and were severely wounded."


"Yeah, yeah... I got shot square in the bottom and they gave me
the Cross for securing a hot spot about halfway up Suribachi.
Bad thing about getting shot up on a mountain is guys getting
shot hauling you down. But, Johnny, at Iwo , I served under
the bravest man I ever knew...
We both got the Cross the same day,
but what he did for his Cross made mine look cheap in comparison.

That dumb guy actually stood up on Red beach and directed his
troops to move forward and get the hell off the beach..
Bullets flying by, with mortar rounds landing everywhere and he
stood there as the main target of gunfire so that he could get his
men to safety.
He did this on more than one occasion because
his men's safety was more important than his own life.


That Sergeant and I have been lifelong friends.
When they brought me off Suribachi we passed the Sergeant and
he lit a smoke and passed it to me, lying on my belly on the litter and said,
"Where'd they get you Lee?"
"Well Bob....
if you make it home before me, tell Mom to sell the outhouse!"


Johnny, I'm not lying, Sergeant Keeshan was the bravest man
I ever knew.
The Sergeant's name is Bob Keeshan.
You and the world know him as Captain Kangaroo."
**************************
On another note, there was this wimpy little man on PBS,(who passed away) ,
gentle and quiet.

Mr. Rogers is another of those you would least suspect of
being anything but what he now portrays to our youth.

But Mr. Rogers was a U.S. Navy Seal,combat-proven in
Vietnam with over twenty-five confirmed kills to his name.
He wore a long-sleeved sweater on TV, to cover the many
tattoos on his forearm and biceps.
He was a master in small arms and hand-to-hand combat,
able to disarm or kill in a heartbeat

After the war Mr. Rogers became an ordained Presbyterian minister
and therefore a pacifist.
Vowing to never harm another human and
also dedicating the rest of his life to trying to help lead children on
the right path in life... He hid away the tattoos and his past life?
and won our hearts with his quiet wit and charm..

America's real heroes don't flaunt what they did;
they quietly go about their day-to-day lives, doing what they do best.
They earned our respect and the freedoms that we all enjoy.
Look around and see if you can find one of those
heroes in your midst.
Often, they are the ones you'd least suspect, but would most like
to have on your side if anything ever happened.

Take the time to thank anyone that has fought for our freedom.
With encouragement they could be the next Captain Kangaroo or Mr. Rogers.
OrlandoFlorida 2/6/2013 8:00:28 AM Report

So the new premier is not going to even look into the privatization of OLG. To investigate if this is even a good thing for the province. This sure smells like another Orange air ambulance scandal in the making.

said the Premier designate. “I take the advice from the OLG.”

So sad for the Sault that good jobs will within a year ot two be heading to southern Ontario, or perhaps the USA or Europe. And the best part is the government will now have to share profits with this private company. Maybe they will invest in health care, oh wait they will, in their home country.

right wing 2/6/2013 8:11:03 AM Report

Great discussion on the bravery of the French after I dropped a few commonly told jokes.
Hit a nerve.
I'll get a couple of Newfie jokes so the lefties can go into a long tirade defending the misconception of the Newfie intellect.
Hell you bunch would be a riot at a party.



RLE 2/6/2013 8:12:37 AM Report

Great post, Grace. How many times have we stood in line at a store or been in any type of gathering and not been aware of the fact that the person next to us was someone to whom we, as citizens, owed a debt of gratitude for their heroic efforts to give us the freedoms that we enjoy today.
right wing 2/6/2013 8:12:50 AM Report

Big Bad Bob

"and his subliminally racist jibes at members of our First Nations"

Really.
I would challenge you to prove where I did such a thing.
It's called the archives.
Big Bad Bob 2/6/2013 8:22:42 AM Report

Shakespeare
This time difference business is a real drag; I frequently find myself having to explain things “for the record” a day late.
When I first read the post you addressed to me yesterday, I felt immediately like the proverbial flea on the toilet seat that got pissed off. I then thought of it all a bit and concluded that surely not everyone frequenting this site is in the habit of continually going off half cocked. My response was acordingly intended to be very closely worded, not attacking or criticizing you for anything, but remaining steadfast on certain opinions and attitudes to which I hold dearly while rejecting outrightly those of certain others.
In conclusion, keep up your own good work.
Big Bad Bob 2/6/2013 8:28:44 AM Report

« When you throw a stone into a pack of dogs.....”
As for would-be jokes, what some folks consider to be witty is anathema for others.”
right wing 2/6/2013 8:33:19 AM Report

flyahwk25

Nice try my lefty little pal.
You did not read the link that I posted did you.
If you had you would know the source of what was in my post.
It is well known that in the Vietnam war they gave out a lot of purple hearts, over 200,000.
Below you will read who said that purple hearts were coming down in boxes.


Wikipedia

Purple Heart - General Criteria

The criteria for the Purple Heart call for its award for any injury received during combat requiring treatment by a medical officer; the military makes no distinction regarding the severity of the injury. Under military regulations, the Purple Heart can also be awarded for "friendly fire" wounds in the "heat of battle," so long as the fire is targeted "under full intent of inflicting damage or destroying enemy troops or equipment."

An article in the Boston Globe described the circumstances in which Purple Hearts were given to wounded Swift Boat personnel in Vietnam:

"'There were an awful lot of Purple Hearts — from shrapnel; some of those might have been M-40 grenades,' said George Elliott, Kerry's commanding officer. 'The Purple Hearts were coming down in boxes. Kerry, he had three Purple Hearts. None of them took him off duty. Not to belittle it, that was more the rule than the exception."[10]

In Douglas Brinkley's book Tour of Duty: John Kerry and the Vietnam War, Brinkley notes that Purple Hearts were given out frequently:

"As generally understood, the Purple Heart is given to any U.S. citizen wounded in wartime service to the nation. Giving out Purple Hearts increased as the United States started sending Swifts up rivers. Sailors — no longer safe on aircraft carriers or battleships in the Gulf of Tonkin — were starting to bleed, a lot."

According to the Los Angeles Times:

"Navy rules during the Vietnam War governing Purple Hearts did not take into account a wound's severity — and specified only that injuries had to be suffered 'in action against an enemy.'"

"A Times review of Navy injury reports and awards from that period in Kerry's Swift boat unit shows that many other Swift boat personnel won Purple Hearts for slight wounds of uncertain origin."[11]
right wing 2/6/2013 8:36:31 AM Report

B.B.B.

I suggest you never step foot in a comedy club cause you are sure to get a pile of "anathema".
Sorry about your sensitivity to your adopted country but I really don't care.
shakespeare 2/6/2013 8:36:44 AM Report

Grace: I think you've bought into a few urban myths.
right wing 2/6/2013 8:37:55 AM Report

flyhawk25

As for that invite in Michigan, as a draft dodger are you allowed in the place?
Grace 2/6/2013 8:42:49 AM Report

Shakes..which ones? City hall digging into the empty coffer...Great Lakes water levels or an entertainment story?
shakespeare 2/6/2013 8:43:43 AM Report

Capt K and Mr Rogers
Grace 2/6/2013 8:50:35 AM Report

Sakes..I know but everything on the internet is true ya know!

http://www.jodavidsmeyer.com/combat/military/actors_in_wwii.html
Wisenheimer 2/6/2013 8:54:36 AM Report

Nice stories Grace, but none of it true.
Lee Marvin was wounded in the South Pacific but not at Iwo. Stories about Fred Rogers and the "ole Cap't" pure fiction. Also wondered why Marvin was buried in Arlington when I noticed the grave. Inclusion has tightened up considerably recently due to running out of space.
right wing 2/6/2013 8:55:06 AM Report

At least Captain K was actually enlisted, the rest is bullsh*t....
That Figures 2/6/2013 9:01:44 AM Report

Captain Kangaroo and Lee Marvin myth debunked.

http://www.snopes.com/military/celebrities/leemarvin.asp
flyhawk25 2/6/2013 9:03:31 AM Report

Hmmm...that from our resident bullshit expert.
As I predicted yesterday we are starting to get the false equivalency nonsense.
Add to that baseless ad hominem attacks and you get one dumb plumber who knows how to Google and thinks Wikpedia is a terrific source .
I suppose it does beat Fox News.
right wing 2/6/2013 9:07:19 AM Report

Shake the bushes and out he falls.
shakespeare 2/6/2013 9:09:55 AM Report

Grace: as rw knows, we Liberal types seek only reputable sources and check our facts.
right wing 2/6/2013 9:16:12 AM Report

It's true Grace Shakey uses The Guardian, chock full of low information reporters.
theprotector 2/6/2013 9:29:20 AM Report

I see right wing is up to he typical mindless crap. Such a sad situation, being a person like that, the need to lash out at everyone and everything. Sitting in the dark, eating twinkies, smoking and having his hand fall asleep on him while watching his fav web site...."harper does Canada"
right wing 2/6/2013 9:36:14 AM Report

Just for you flyhawk...

Wikipedia is a terrific source.

Only eight serious errors, such as misinterpretations of important concepts, were detected in the pairs of articles reviewed, four from each encyclopaedia. But reviewers also found many factual errors, omissions or misleading statements: 162 and 123 in Wikipedia and Britannica, respectively."
The difference in accuracy between Wikipedia and Britannica proved not to be extreme; "the average science entry in Wikipedia contained around four inaccuracies; Britannica, about three.
This is the most famous reliability study of Wikipedia. It is notable because it was sponsored by the highly-reputed Nature magazine, and because it compared Wikipedia directly with the hitherto undisputed acme of English encyclopediaship, Encyclopaedia Britannica.
right wing 2/6/2013 9:37:40 AM Report

...feeling neglected theprotector.
Sorry but I only lash out at those opponents with a deserving intellect.
theprotector 2/6/2013 9:48:08 AM Report

no not really, dont have time with a person so full of himself, crap and hate. Sad pathetic person you are...
right wing 2/6/2013 9:53:12 AM Report

....did you happen to notice that you are lecturing about lashing out while you are lashing out...nah, forget it...
seriously 2/6/2013 10:20:52 AM Report

I have been monitoring this for awhile....SUCH RUDENESS towards those you are so-so bullshit-DEBATING.

I thought this site was for a more formal conversation, and nothing quite as personal.....I don't give ******.

Hopeless
T-rat 2/6/2013 10:21:37 AM Report

I see that rw is back from licking his wounds after two consecutive days of lashings. Hope he got one of those purple hearts for those.

Meanwhile, the Occupy movement and the Idle No More crews could take a lesson from these British pubsters.

http://www.buggerthebankers.com/
right wing 2/6/2013 10:27:33 AM Report

...seriously, you should have been monitoring it for the past 5+ years.

Visit the Red Room.
It's a social place where they eat cyber food....
right wing 2/6/2013 10:37:30 AM Report

T-rat

You male lefties seem to love that word "lashing".
I suppose it has something to do with a Liberal's selection of a wife...some good old whipping or flogging...a little Dominatrix never hurt anybody.
right wing 2/6/2013 10:42:37 AM Report

...T-rat, good link by the way.
Bad Dawg 2/6/2013 11:02:35 AM Report

If Satan is the Anti Christ, does that make Harper the Anti-Democrat??
Big Bad Bob 2/6/2013 11:14:15 AM Report

For once I wish to state (or should I say REPEAT?) something FOR THE RECORD on the day of the event at issue, namely:
“The fact that I choose for the time being to live in France, and my reasons for doing so, are my own business and nobody else’s, other than that of the French authorities who allow me to live in their country. By analogy, the same basic situation applies to other Canadians living abroad no matter what the country concerned.”
To the foregoing I would add by way of emphasis that:
1. I do not possess the nationality of France or any country other than Canada.
2. I pay taxes regularly in Canada.
3. In view of the foregoing-
(a) I consider myself to be as Canadian as any other poster frequenting this site; and
(b) I resent anybody deciding on my behalf that France or any country other than Canada is my “ adopted country.”


right wing 2/6/2013 11:16:18 AM Report

...and we should care about this because...
theprotector 2/6/2013 11:21:01 AM Report

didnt know someone was making an issue of it BBB I always thought of you as a Canadian. Your thoughts and comments are much more relevant and supportive of this country than right wing's.
right wing 2/6/2013 11:21:44 AM Report

Big Bad Bob

I really don't understand the issue with anybody believing you to be a citizen of France.
There are a lot of advantages.

TOP 10 REASONS FOR BEING FRENCH:

1.When speaking fast you can make yourself sound gay
2.Experience the joy of winning the world cup for the first time
3.You get to eat insect food like snails and frogs legs
4.If there's a war you can surrender really early
5. You don't have to read the subtitles on those late night foreign films on Channel 4
6. You can test your own nuclear weapons in other people's countries
7.You can be ugly and still be a famous film star
8. Allow Germans to march up and down your most famous street humiliating your sense of national pride
9. You don't have to bother with toilets, just go in the streets
10.People think you're a great lover even when you're not.
right wing 2/6/2013 11:22:55 AM Report

..yes you never says that the Prime Minster of Canada is Satan.
right wing 2/6/2013 11:24:31 AM Report

...and remember...I'm of French heritage.
Wisenheimer 2/6/2013 11:35:36 AM Report

Right Wing .. you are correct, Purple Hearts are a dime a dozen.
FlyHawk you are correct .. do not go into the VFW across the ditch and mention this fact! Hugs!
Wisenheimer 2/6/2013 11:38:22 AM Report

Check out the veiled threat issued to Frank from his FN neighbour on "respond to this story" on home page. Typical.
right wing 2/6/2013 12:13:32 PM Report

Good Lord my heart just dropped.
How sad to see such a great teacher as Mr. Frank Piccolo in such a state.
He was my teacher during my high school years, the students liked and respected him.
Such a mild manner man.
My day has just become a sad one.
How could this have happened.
right wing 2/6/2013 12:14:22 PM Report

"mannered"

...on that note, you all have a good day.
redranger 2/6/2013 12:40:13 PM Report

Right Wing
please clarify your statement on Frank Piccolo. I thought Frank passed away last year.
redranger 2/6/2013 12:48:40 PM Report

RW
never mind..I saw the article. I knew that Frank had died last year and wondered what you were talking about. I taught with Frank for many years and am deeply saddened by this story.
everson 2/6/2013 12:58:30 PM Report

Note to the economic minded: All the income gains in the last 4 decades have trickled up to the 1% and the rest of the 99% are having an economic trickle down. C.D. Howe
Ms Alotta 2/6/2013 2:16:35 PM Report

Just noticed a story on a national news website about an education professional who wants to stop teaching students how to write and that they would learn printing through facebook or twitter. OMG!! Perhaps they are already learning how to spell there? My 14 year old nephew thought canine was spelled, "K-9"
skipper dave 2/6/2013 2:54:24 PM Report

Good afternoon Sweet Soo! Just finished my shift up at SAH and was in the foyer getting ready to brave the cold. I was approached by a lovely lady who asked if I was Dave and that she reads this blog faithfully but does not jump into the free for all in the sand box. I don't blame her since there are no rules of engagement except perhaps having a thick skin and few morals. So to my newest Soo Blog Friend Colleen, hello and welcome. Next summit drag you and your hubby out and sit in the second row. It's called observation ally. You will learn some interesting little known facts. Bounder is no longer a duck, rw is a man of the cloth (just kidding) and yes Fly probably taught your kids. Behind the screen status is a quiet, intelligent gentle soul and Nanag's heart is as big as all out doors. Spelly looks the part of an intellectual and there are more of you from the silent majority than the rest of us suspect. If you fit that category then perhaps you can do us the pleasure of just saying hi and give us your moniker so that we too can guess what your really like? Looking forward to hearing from you.
shakespeare 2/6/2013 3:10:53 PM Report

Lots of anathema from rw, today, mixed with a little wit mixed with sources for his jokes that are not reputable or maybe very dated. Nobody under 15 will get the chance to see France win their first World Cup as they did so in 1998, 3-0 against Brazil.
I expect a rejoinder after he returns from his brave defence of democracy tilting at windmills with his giant plunger.
the_mage 2/6/2013 3:12:18 PM Report

That thing on being french. Not cool, Not good. It's racist, homophobic and downright childish.

You ought to be banned for a least a few days.

I'm posting this on facebook. Prepare to be infamous.

For shame.
mallet 2/6/2013 3:31:42 PM Report

Shakespeare...

England leading Brazil one nothing in the friendly at wembley
the_mage 2/6/2013 3:38:48 PM Report

lol

My friend is french.

My childhood buddy is gay.

But the frog legs are not bad.

I didn't realize one didn't have to eat the bone.
mallet 2/6/2013 3:47:27 PM Report

Shakespeare ..

Now one one..
shakespeare 2/6/2013 3:51:29 PM Report

Darn! Checked out the live British on-line coverage, not available here (but it is in Japan!)
I guess you must have satellite!
mallet 2/6/2013 3:54:47 PM Report

Shakespeare...

England now up 2 one..
mallet 2/6/2013 3:57:47 PM Report

Shakespeare...

Actually I am watching on the computer... there are verious sites (free... cos I am tight) ... you want the website


you get all the games on ...
shakespeare 2/6/2013 3:58:23 PM Report

Getting tired of this cold weather. Got back from my cross country ski at Hiawatha earlier and the mechanism that clicks the boot into the ski had frozen so hard that I could not free one boot. So I had to drive home with my pedal foot in just a sock. Fortunately it's just a 10 minute drive.
Hawaii's coming up soon!
shakespeare 2/6/2013 3:59:02 PM Report

yes please!
mallet 2/6/2013 4:18:44 PM Report

Shakespeare ...

Go to "www.wiziwig.tv football schedule" and try that
right wing 2/6/2013 4:26:38 PM Report

the_mage

Bite me.
There is nothing racist or homophobic about it.
You can take that list (yes it is dated shakey) and convert the word French to just about any nationality.
Anyone that cannot poke fun or take having fun poked at their nationality is a cry baby.
You must never watch the comedy channel or set foot in a comedy club.
I hear worse things said on Letterman or The Tonight Show.
You should check and see if they can transplant cadaver funny bones.
mallet 2/6/2013 4:28:14 PM Report

Shakespeare...

After 23 years England has beaten Brazil two one.... and there was 87500. there at Wembley....
mallet 2/6/2013 4:31:22 PM Report

Shakespeare...

Ireland leading Poland 2 nothing ...
shakespeare 2/6/2013 4:41:23 PM Report

rw: you are going to love this. It is a classic. Everyone in the U,K, rolled on the floor in 1969 when Marty thought this up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pAVssu20Is
right wing 2/6/2013 4:41:46 PM Report

Leading Poland...with what a pickle?
mallet 2/6/2013 4:42:33 PM Report

Shakespeare...

All four teams from the U K won...

Scotland one nothing and Wales two one.. Ireland 20 nought and England two one over brazil...
mallet 2/6/2013 4:43:56 PM Report

Shakespeare...

Sorri about that Ireland two Poland nought...
right wing 2/6/2013 4:50:06 PM Report

shakespeare

Funny stuff!
Loved when he did the description of the German referee...
Greasy Daigles (sp?)...LMAO
shakespeare 2/6/2013 4:55:35 PM Report

Thanks for the updates mallet. I didn't have too much luck with the site but will explore it further.
the_mage 2/6/2013 5:48:42 PM Report

RW,

Sorry but I'd never dream of biting you.

I'd get sick and have to ask you for an antibiotic from your own collection.

I am however glad to see I touched a little nerve of yours.

I laugh at your comments, you must have a lot of time on your hands.

That's what creeps me out.

:-)
right wing 2/6/2013 5:58:59 PM Report

the_mage

Glad to be of service.
Laughter is the best medicine and in a world where there is an over abundance of political correctness we need a lot of it.
Lot of time...some days yes many others not so much.
That perception does always make me laugh though....
right wing 2/6/2013 6:01:12 PM Report

...by the way, the never biting comment cause you'd need antibiotics was funny!
shakespeare 2/6/2013 7:14:34 PM Report

dego: is a rather derogatory name applied by (usually) the Brits to those of a swarthy Mediterranean (Spanish, Italian) background.
It's amazing how political correctness has advanced since 1969.
Bobby Nerves 2/6/2013 7:37:41 PM Report

shakespeare 2/6/2013 3:58:23 PM Report

Getting tired of this cold weather. Got back from my cross country ski at Hiawatha earlier and the mechanism that clicks the boot into the ski had frozen so hard that I could not free one boot. So I had to drive home with my pedal foot in just a sock. Fortunately it's just a 10 minute drive.
Hawaii's coming up soon!

Ha... me slow. I was reading and asking myself... how'd he manage to drive the car with the ski on... yep... you're smarter than me, you got your ski and boot off all together.

Sort of Benny Hill joke.
shakespeare 2/6/2013 8:43:41 PM Report

Bobby: actually, I wan't that smart to start with and I actually contemplated sticking my right foot with ski at a ridiculous angle into the passenger side and out the window, while my free left foot could work the pedals; amputation was also an alternative, but I didn't have my Swiss Army Knife. I could have skied to the lodge and thawed the thing out (not a bad idea), but all in all I think I chose the best solution. Tomorrow is Searchmont... let's see what trouble I can get into.
Bobby Nerves 2/6/2013 8:59:15 PM Report

What about head down... you can master the pedals with your hands...

Nah, it's not gonna work, you still have to travel with your leg out the window.

Have a great day in Searchmount. Enjoy.
nanag 2/6/2013 9:05:11 PM Report

Bobby Nerves and Shakespeare

I too thought at first..How the heck is he going to fit the ski in the car? bahahahah. Oh I sometimes wonder how I make it thru the day without injuring my poor tired brain

on another note.. for a city girl, with next to no horse caring experience ,I am doing pretty good looking after my 2 "grandhorses". I am getting real good at feeding them their apples and carrots from my hand.. but I will be very happy when my daughter and her crew get back from Florida so I can sleep in my own bed
shakespeare 2/6/2013 9:27:34 PM Report

nanag: I thought that taking care of granddogs was enough...but horses! You mention that you are looking forward to your own bed ... you're not sleeping in the barn with the horses are you?... that would be going "above and beyond" in my book!
Bobby Nerves 2/6/2013 9:31:57 PM Report

I've heard of slipping with the fishes, but with the horses... it's all a new one.

nanag 2/6/2013 10:02:43 PM Report

Ahahah No I am not sleeping with the horses in the barn. Although I do worry about them being cold in this weather.I am actually quite allergic to the beasties but I manage. They are really quite the animal.. they have distinct personalities. I like them but I can safely say I won't be sad when I am no longer needed out here after Sunday
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