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anabanana 2/5/2013 4:43:25 AM Report
Good Morning all!
Up and at it now, it's late for sure.
If you lose he morning, you lose the day.
I am off to bed now, I opt to lose the latter part of this morning.
I will "Ketchup" later today. Have a good one.
A.
Good Morning all!
Up and at it now, it's late for sure.
If you lose he morning, you lose the day.
I am off to bed now, I opt to lose the latter part of this morning.
I will "Ketchup" later today. Have a good one.
A.
Spellchecker 2/5/2013 6:09:15 AM Report
Some really good comments from Ellio Doe in Roxanne's column, not likely to be read there because of very little action in it. Don't miss it. Good lesson there for young parents.
Some really good comments from Ellio Doe in Roxanne's column, not likely to be read there because of very little action in it. Don't miss it. Good lesson there for young parents.
Spellchecker 2/5/2013 6:12:45 AM Report
So good, I think I'll post it here.
Ellio Doe 12/16/2012 11:05:00 AM
Roxanne, I am behind you 100%. I feel we may be on the same page. I have raised three children into adulthood and know how teens think. I now have a 16 year old granddaughter. I listen to her. She has very strong oppinions about bullying; she choses her friends carefully. She is very wise but still vulnerable. My daughter taught her well. Her social skills are very firmly bordered, but lovely also. I also tried my best to instill something in my daughter that my mother also nurtured in me....Common Sense. And yes, my daughter and I did not have this new technology. Yet, I found the school bus was a terror spot for me. I hear horror stories about the 'school bus' still today; nothing has changed there. That is where I received physical bruises, terribly self-esteem-damaging attacks, viscious name-calling,verbal degradation. Yet, it ended there where I got off the school bus...until the next day. No one ever called me at home to continue the attack. My school had a very rigid Principal with '0' tolerance to any kind of bullying. Those who got reported were very harshly reprimanded with consequences carried out without fail if the behavior continued. The school also had 'watchers' in place who were undercover, so to speak. But there was always bullies who either got nipped in the bud, or slipped through the cracks to carry on into their adult lives. We all know them. They may have ended up in jail later on, who knows?
I believe, not only technology is to blame partially, along with lax school policies on allowing cell phones,etc inside the school, but parents are also to blame. I have noticed a huge change in how we manage our children from birth. What is happening? I have witnessed such disrespectful behavior coming from both children and parents towards each other in my lifetime. In my oppinion, parents have lost control...their role as a parent seems indefineable. No doubt, things have changed drastically.
I see mothers and/or fathers walking with their children,doing a wonderful together thing on a lovely day in the park, texting while their children are happily skipping along speaking to them. The parent is deeply involved in texting and bearly notices the child is even there. How sad. What could be so important as to take our attention away from our precious children, especially while we're supposed to be spending quality time with them? Texting while your child is walking along beside you talking about his day..how rude! He will do the same when he gets his hands on his first cell phone or ipod, whatever you call them...it's still teaching your kids that the family unit means nothing, and the child is unimportant, and not worth our undivided attention. Is this really how we want our kids to treat others?
Children are also growing up way too fast. What ever happened to 'PG-13 viewing standards'? I've witnessed little kids watching violence and sexual scenes like it was a common thing, with the parents watching alongside as if it were nothing. Are we being manipulated; our brains being numbed to the unacceptable? We need to wake up!
Life is moving too fast. We're getting all mixed up. As to what we really need to survive and be happy, and what we 'want' or think we 'need' to be happy and survive today is nothing close to reality.
I know this would be a tall order but, I truly feel, in order to stop the maddness, we'd have to really 'stop'. Stop and go back to basics. I may sound extreme, but if you believe 2012 marks any kind of change for humankind, let's hope it will be the change that will save us from our own path of destruction through our own stupidity. I need not say more. Thank you for reading this and allowing me to vent off my deep concerns. Best wishes to all.
So good, I think I'll post it here.
Ellio Doe 12/16/2012 11:05:00 AM
Roxanne, I am behind you 100%. I feel we may be on the same page. I have raised three children into adulthood and know how teens think. I now have a 16 year old granddaughter. I listen to her. She has very strong oppinions about bullying; she choses her friends carefully. She is very wise but still vulnerable. My daughter taught her well. Her social skills are very firmly bordered, but lovely also. I also tried my best to instill something in my daughter that my mother also nurtured in me....Common Sense. And yes, my daughter and I did not have this new technology. Yet, I found the school bus was a terror spot for me. I hear horror stories about the 'school bus' still today; nothing has changed there. That is where I received physical bruises, terribly self-esteem-damaging attacks, viscious name-calling,verbal degradation. Yet, it ended there where I got off the school bus...until the next day. No one ever called me at home to continue the attack. My school had a very rigid Principal with '0' tolerance to any kind of bullying. Those who got reported were very harshly reprimanded with consequences carried out without fail if the behavior continued. The school also had 'watchers' in place who were undercover, so to speak. But there was always bullies who either got nipped in the bud, or slipped through the cracks to carry on into their adult lives. We all know them. They may have ended up in jail later on, who knows?
I believe, not only technology is to blame partially, along with lax school policies on allowing cell phones,etc inside the school, but parents are also to blame. I have noticed a huge change in how we manage our children from birth. What is happening? I have witnessed such disrespectful behavior coming from both children and parents towards each other in my lifetime. In my oppinion, parents have lost control...their role as a parent seems indefineable. No doubt, things have changed drastically.
I see mothers and/or fathers walking with their children,doing a wonderful together thing on a lovely day in the park, texting while their children are happily skipping along speaking to them. The parent is deeply involved in texting and bearly notices the child is even there. How sad. What could be so important as to take our attention away from our precious children, especially while we're supposed to be spending quality time with them? Texting while your child is walking along beside you talking about his day..how rude! He will do the same when he gets his hands on his first cell phone or ipod, whatever you call them...it's still teaching your kids that the family unit means nothing, and the child is unimportant, and not worth our undivided attention. Is this really how we want our kids to treat others?
Children are also growing up way too fast. What ever happened to 'PG-13 viewing standards'? I've witnessed little kids watching violence and sexual scenes like it was a common thing, with the parents watching alongside as if it were nothing. Are we being manipulated; our brains being numbed to the unacceptable? We need to wake up!
Life is moving too fast. We're getting all mixed up. As to what we really need to survive and be happy, and what we 'want' or think we 'need' to be happy and survive today is nothing close to reality.
I know this would be a tall order but, I truly feel, in order to stop the maddness, we'd have to really 'stop'. Stop and go back to basics. I may sound extreme, but if you believe 2012 marks any kind of change for humankind, let's hope it will be the change that will save us from our own path of destruction through our own stupidity. I need not say more. Thank you for reading this and allowing me to vent off my deep concerns. Best wishes to all.
Spellchecker 2/5/2013 6:24:45 AM Report
Strong families are the building block of a strong society. When families crumble the nation follows.
Strong families are the building block of a strong society. When families crumble the nation follows.
skipper dave 2/5/2013 6:43:54 AM Report
Good morning sweet Soo! Short month then on to spring. Ah Spelly Parenting 101, one of the two P's that still have me baffled - Partnering and Parenting. I know there is a common thread and that is the decision to connect and how do we do that, listen. I think there is a recipe coming up with some common ingredients. Like hugs and paying attention and touching. It's been so easy in the past just to write a cheque and not really know the child. knowing the child requires of us to place someone else's needs before our own. Example my teenager son gets up at 10:30 and comes into the living room to announce to you he can't sleep. just in the middle of your favourite swamp logger reality show. Do you "A" send him back to bed with a set of stern instructions to get to sleep? "B" shut off the TV take him with you and keep him company on his bed till he settles down and sleeps? Oh crap one answer requires action and commitment the other just a lecture,
Good morning sweet Soo! Short month then on to spring. Ah Spelly Parenting 101, one of the two P's that still have me baffled - Partnering and Parenting. I know there is a common thread and that is the decision to connect and how do we do that, listen. I think there is a recipe coming up with some common ingredients. Like hugs and paying attention and touching. It's been so easy in the past just to write a cheque and not really know the child. knowing the child requires of us to place someone else's needs before our own. Example my teenager son gets up at 10:30 and comes into the living room to announce to you he can't sleep. just in the middle of your favourite swamp logger reality show. Do you "A" send him back to bed with a set of stern instructions to get to sleep? "B" shut off the TV take him with you and keep him company on his bed till he settles down and sleeps? Oh crap one answer requires action and commitment the other just a lecture,
skipper dave 2/5/2013 6:47:17 AM Report
Spelly I agree to a point. The nuclear family has been replaced by the blended family. Still better to come from a broken family than to live in one.
Spelly I agree to a point. The nuclear family has been replaced by the blended family. Still better to come from a broken family than to live in one.
skipper dave 2/5/2013 7:00:40 AM Report
Some thoughts on the evolution of marriage. it's an equal partnership that requires one hell of a lot of work. In my Dad's day you just planted the seed in the garden and let the little woman do the weeding. There are deal breakers (the rise in divorce is a good thing) physical, emotional and sexual abuse equates to a trip to the curb and charges laid. Divide the chores and have family meetings on updates. And lastly hugs and more hugs. There are no lifetime guarantees . meet once a year and seriously ask her if she would freely marry you again (oh no not a performance review)?
Some thoughts on the evolution of marriage. it's an equal partnership that requires one hell of a lot of work. In my Dad's day you just planted the seed in the garden and let the little woman do the weeding. There are deal breakers (the rise in divorce is a good thing) physical, emotional and sexual abuse equates to a trip to the curb and charges laid. Divide the chores and have family meetings on updates. And lastly hugs and more hugs. There are no lifetime guarantees . meet once a year and seriously ask her if she would freely marry you again (oh no not a performance review)?
Right Winger 2/5/2013 7:29:22 AM Report
There is an article in the paper regarding mailed threats to one of the Idle No More orgainizers originally from Garden River. These threats should not be made. However to say these threats are "racially motivated" should not even be printed. These threats are directed at a PERSON who is leading a GROUP of protetstors probablly affecting the life of the individualt who may or may not live in Echo Bay. The threat would likely arise if it were any group blockading traffic. In the Idle No More case it happens to be aboriginal people.
There is an article in the paper regarding mailed threats to one of the Idle No More orgainizers originally from Garden River. These threats should not be made. However to say these threats are "racially motivated" should not even be printed. These threats are directed at a PERSON who is leading a GROUP of protetstors probablly affecting the life of the individualt who may or may not live in Echo Bay. The threat would likely arise if it were any group blockading traffic. In the Idle No More case it happens to be aboriginal people.
Right Winger 2/5/2013 7:31:18 AM Report
skipper, if its a teenager you tell them to get back to bed. If it is a kid less than 10 go up to settle them.
skipper, if its a teenager you tell them to get back to bed. If it is a kid less than 10 go up to settle them.
bounder 2/5/2013 7:45:04 AM Report
Skipper. All in all it looks like everyone is a the mercy of their partner.
Skipper. All in all it looks like everyone is a the mercy of their partner.
right wing 2/5/2013 8:42:47 AM Report
Obama, the Nobel Peace Prize guy doing cloak and dagger stuff on killing his own citizens.
My, my just what the Libs come up with to defend this one.
They're creative with bullsh*t a reason it is Bush's fault will be out shortly.
John Kerry will have a news release stating that he voted against this after he voted for it.
MSN News
A confidential Justice Department memo concludes that the U.S. government can order the killing of American citizens if they are believed to be “senior operational leaders” of al-Qaida or “an associated force” -- even if there is no intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the U.S.
The 16-page memo, a copy of which was obtained by NBC News, provides new details about the legal reasoning behind one of the Obama administration’s most secretive and controversial polices.....
Read more.....
http://tinyurl.com/babqk4p
Obama, the Nobel Peace Prize guy doing cloak and dagger stuff on killing his own citizens.
My, my just what the Libs come up with to defend this one.
They're creative with bullsh*t a reason it is Bush's fault will be out shortly.
John Kerry will have a news release stating that he voted against this after he voted for it.
MSN News
A confidential Justice Department memo concludes that the U.S. government can order the killing of American citizens if they are believed to be “senior operational leaders” of al-Qaida or “an associated force” -- even if there is no intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the U.S.
The 16-page memo, a copy of which was obtained by NBC News, provides new details about the legal reasoning behind one of the Obama administration’s most secretive and controversial polices.....
Read more.....
http://tinyurl.com/babqk4p
flyhawk25 2/5/2013 8:49:05 AM Report
Splendid topic today.
I have a theory on today's society as well.
We are still very much social animals. Witness our desire on here to share at least part of our narrative.
In itself there is nothing wrong with that. It seems the problem occurs when the electronic medium supplants live interaction.
I know that I have to guard against falling into that trap myself.
Try 'turning off' and actually interacting with other people as much as possible - especially the ones we are closest to.
Splendid topic today.
I have a theory on today's society as well.
We are still very much social animals. Witness our desire on here to share at least part of our narrative.
In itself there is nothing wrong with that. It seems the problem occurs when the electronic medium supplants live interaction.
I know that I have to guard against falling into that trap myself.
Try 'turning off' and actually interacting with other people as much as possible - especially the ones we are closest to.
BIG BROTHER 2/5/2013 8:53:38 AM Report
rw,
You have to learn to focus on one topic at a time.
The Al Queda weren't in Iraq dumdum. Kerry, like most, voted in favour of the attack when he fell for the lies of Dubya. Heck, even Colin Powell changed his mind and his alliances, only to be labelled a traitor. He changed his mind and his vote upon discovering his leader was lying about a very serious war situation. Many innocent people kolled as a result of those lies. What don't you understand about that!!
rw,
You have to learn to focus on one topic at a time.
The Al Queda weren't in Iraq dumdum. Kerry, like most, voted in favour of the attack when he fell for the lies of Dubya. Heck, even Colin Powell changed his mind and his alliances, only to be labelled a traitor. He changed his mind and his vote upon discovering his leader was lying about a very serious war situation. Many innocent people kolled as a result of those lies. What don't you understand about that!!
skipper dave 2/5/2013 8:53:48 AM Report
Bounder if you consider your relationship to be at the mercy of your partner than your in a power struggle and that's as good as it will ever get. A mature relationship is based on mutual respect, a power struggle is about winning gawd that's lonely.
Bounder if you consider your relationship to be at the mercy of your partner than your in a power struggle and that's as good as it will ever get. A mature relationship is based on mutual respect, a power struggle is about winning gawd that's lonely.
Bill_the_Cat 2/5/2013 9:01:05 AM Report
big brother: So AQ weren't in Iraq? Based on your armchair quarterbacking?
Whilst not there in great numbers, they restricted themselves to destabilizing the various factions, and taking pot-shots at coalition forces.
Not a reason to invade Iraq, but to say they weren't there is revisionist.
big brother: So AQ weren't in Iraq? Based on your armchair quarterbacking?
Whilst not there in great numbers, they restricted themselves to destabilizing the various factions, and taking pot-shots at coalition forces.
Not a reason to invade Iraq, but to say they weren't there is revisionist.
BIG BROTHER 2/5/2013 9:03:01 AM Report
Bill,
Invade my country and I will be taking pot shots at the so-called coalition forces.
Bill,
Invade my country and I will be taking pot shots at the so-called coalition forces.
Bill_the_Cat 2/5/2013 9:03:56 AM Report
AQ was certainly strong enough to wipe out entire villages: men, women, children. Their minimal presence now is a testament to the Iraqis--of all stripes--who got tired of AQ and...eliminated them.
AQ was certainly strong enough to wipe out entire villages: men, women, children. Their minimal presence now is a testament to the Iraqis--of all stripes--who got tired of AQ and...eliminated them.
Bill_the_Cat 2/5/2013 9:05:43 AM Report
BB: not complaining about the potshots. Just passing on the intel.
BB: not complaining about the potshots. Just passing on the intel.
right wing 2/5/2013 9:10:46 AM Report
Big Bro
Speaking of dumdum's.
Did you even read the news article.
Obama - secret drone attacks - permission to kill American citizens...
Who the hell mentioned Iraq except you.
I know it was the John Kerry dig that threw you.
Is he another of your Liberal heroes.
Big Bro
Speaking of dumdum's.
Did you even read the news article.
Obama - secret drone attacks - permission to kill American citizens...
Who the hell mentioned Iraq except you.
I know it was the John Kerry dig that threw you.
Is he another of your Liberal heroes.
right wing 2/5/2013 9:13:35 AM Report
Bill_the_cat
I've proven Big Bro wrong on his statement way back but he is stuck on George Bush.
Bill_the_cat
I've proven Big Bro wrong on his statement way back but he is stuck on George Bush.
Bill_the_Cat 2/5/2013 9:17:06 AM Report
Extra-judicial killing of American citizens is worrying. Very worrying. Unfortunately, it is a natural consequence of the policy of rendition of US citizens.
For this, I cannot blame Obama, though. This smacks of a bureaucracy out of control. The last three presidents have enabled, and encouraged this to some degree.
More worrying is the MSMs lack of coverage. Had this been Bush, they would be apoplectic, and rightfully so. I doubt if Clinton would have walked away unscathed. Yet they are silent as the constitution is ripped up.
Extra-judicial killing of American citizens is worrying. Very worrying. Unfortunately, it is a natural consequence of the policy of rendition of US citizens.
For this, I cannot blame Obama, though. This smacks of a bureaucracy out of control. The last three presidents have enabled, and encouraged this to some degree.
More worrying is the MSMs lack of coverage. Had this been Bush, they would be apoplectic, and rightfully so. I doubt if Clinton would have walked away unscathed. Yet they are silent as the constitution is ripped up.
BIG BROTHER 2/5/2013 9:17:46 AM Report
Bill,
Get the story straight. AQ were not involved in the 9/11 attacks. There is little to no evidence of their existence in Iraq. Saddam wouldn't tolerate them. Hell, there is more evidence of their existence in the US.
rw,
Kerry is more decorated for his war efforts the Cheney, Dubya, Rumsfeld and Connie put together, your heroes. He is the true hero you wish for but can't find in any of your chosen ones.
Bill,
Get the story straight. AQ were not involved in the 9/11 attacks. There is little to no evidence of their existence in Iraq. Saddam wouldn't tolerate them. Hell, there is more evidence of their existence in the US.
rw,
Kerry is more decorated for his war efforts the Cheney, Dubya, Rumsfeld and Connie put together, your heroes. He is the true hero you wish for but can't find in any of your chosen ones.
seriously 2/5/2013 9:17:55 AM Report
This day I write in response about kids and the way they treat others, especially if it's an elderly (sponging)
Equally so - I'm appalled at incorrect spelling, seems RW slobbers....hahaha!
This day I write in response about kids and the way they treat others, especially if it's an elderly (sponging)
Equally so - I'm appalled at incorrect spelling, seems RW slobbers....hahaha!
BIG BROTHER 2/5/2013 9:20:16 AM Report
The rationale for attacking Iraq was and still is WMD; There-in is the lie!! not the presence of AQ!!
The rationale for attacking Iraq was and still is WMD; There-in is the lie!! not the presence of AQ!!
right wing 2/5/2013 9:22:04 AM Report
Big Bro
Well no worries Obama has cleared up the problem of any wrong intelligence being called lies.
Evidence, we don't need no evidence.
More blinding hypocrisy, the religion of the left.
"But the confidential Justice Department “white paper” introduces a more expansive definition of self-defense or imminent attack than described by Brennan or Holder in their public speeches. It refers, for example, to what it calls a “broader concept of imminence” than actual intelligence about any ongoing plot against the U.S. homeland.
“The condition that an operational leader present an ‘imminent’ threat of violent attack against the United States does not require the United States to have clear evidence that a specific attack on U.S. persons and interests will take place in the immediate future,” the memo states.
Big Bro
Well no worries Obama has cleared up the problem of any wrong intelligence being called lies.
Evidence, we don't need no evidence.
More blinding hypocrisy, the religion of the left.
"But the confidential Justice Department “white paper” introduces a more expansive definition of self-defense or imminent attack than described by Brennan or Holder in their public speeches. It refers, for example, to what it calls a “broader concept of imminence” than actual intelligence about any ongoing plot against the U.S. homeland.
“The condition that an operational leader present an ‘imminent’ threat of violent attack against the United States does not require the United States to have clear evidence that a specific attack on U.S. persons and interests will take place in the immediate future,” the memo states.
Bill_the_Cat 2/5/2013 9:22:29 AM Report
RW: yeah well. Whatcha gonna do? It's the armchair quarterbacking by civilians that gets me.
I liked GWB personally, but not so much as POTUS. Some very dodgy policy choices--Iraq being one of them. More the shame he managed to convince Blair et al to join him in his folly.
RW: yeah well. Whatcha gonna do? It's the armchair quarterbacking by civilians that gets me.
I liked GWB personally, but not so much as POTUS. Some very dodgy policy choices--Iraq being one of them. More the shame he managed to convince Blair et al to join him in his folly.
right wing 2/5/2013 9:24:00 AM Report
Big Bro
No he is not.
He threw his medal over the fence.
I think he kept his self inflicted purple heart cause he gets free drinks for that one down at the pub.
Big Bro
No he is not.
He threw his medal over the fence.
I think he kept his self inflicted purple heart cause he gets free drinks for that one down at the pub.
Bill_the_Cat 2/5/2013 9:27:04 AM Report
BB: agreed on the WMD. Completely.
You did say that AQ was never in Iraq. You did not specify before or after the invasion. They were most certainly present afterwards.
My stories are straight.
BB: agreed on the WMD. Completely.
You did say that AQ was never in Iraq. You did not specify before or after the invasion. They were most certainly present afterwards.
My stories are straight.
right wing 2/5/2013 9:33:17 AM Report
Bill_the_cat
I agree but I also take into account that the decision on war with Iraq was an open book for all to see and not just by the U.S.
A vote was made by all.
Bad intell it was but the lefts insistence by some that Bush was in on it is completely ridiculous and unfounded.
Obama had an open opportunity to pull out of Afghanistan but instead increased military action but that gets a pass by the left.
The hypocrisy is a WMD.
Bill_the_cat
I agree but I also take into account that the decision on war with Iraq was an open book for all to see and not just by the U.S.
A vote was made by all.
Bad intell it was but the lefts insistence by some that Bush was in on it is completely ridiculous and unfounded.
Obama had an open opportunity to pull out of Afghanistan but instead increased military action but that gets a pass by the left.
The hypocrisy is a WMD.
Bill_the_Cat 2/5/2013 9:39:53 AM Report
going to doc with youngest. bbl
cheers all. Don't be stickin' no beans up yer noses.
going to doc with youngest. bbl
cheers all. Don't be stickin' no beans up yer noses.
right wing 2/5/2013 9:45:16 AM Report
Yes Kerry served.
Yes Kerry recieved medals.
Hell they handed out purple hearts by the box full, wounds treated by a band aid got one.
Kerry's medals were surrounded by controversy.
http://tinyurl.com/s8o2o
Yes Kerry served.
Yes Kerry recieved medals.
Hell they handed out purple hearts by the box full, wounds treated by a band aid got one.
Kerry's medals were surrounded by controversy.
http://tinyurl.com/s8o2o
Spellchecker 2/5/2013 9:47:41 AM Report
Chemical weapons ARE weapons of mass destruction (WMD). If you don't believe me, ask the remaining Kurds.
Chemical weapons ARE weapons of mass destruction (WMD). If you don't believe me, ask the remaining Kurds.
Spellchecker 2/5/2013 9:52:34 AM Report
However, I do agree Bush attacked the wrong country. It should have been Iran. Too late now, they have a resurgent China on their side. The EU will put a stop to them though,as the US goes further into its shell.
However, I do agree Bush attacked the wrong country. It should have been Iran. Too late now, they have a resurgent China on their side. The EU will put a stop to them though,as the US goes further into its shell.
mallet 2/5/2013 10:00:57 AM Report
Right Wing...
I am going to play a little of a devils advocate here...
Define "weapons of mass destruction" and then ask the Kurds of Northern Iraq about that.. Under most governments, ideas of WMD fall under Chemical and Biological as well as Nuclear. Just because a weapon does not destroy buildings and infrastructure, does not mean it in NOT a WMD. Yes Nuclear is understood to mean a WMD but the others just destroy the population...
Right Wing...
I am going to play a little of a devils advocate here...
Define "weapons of mass destruction" and then ask the Kurds of Northern Iraq about that.. Under most governments, ideas of WMD fall under Chemical and Biological as well as Nuclear. Just because a weapon does not destroy buildings and infrastructure, does not mean it in NOT a WMD. Yes Nuclear is understood to mean a WMD but the others just destroy the population...
Grump 2/5/2013 10:41:53 AM Report
Well congatulation to Obama for cleaning up the Islamic fanatics no matter where they come from. Not bad for a lefty eh rw? He certainly has a bigger pair than any who went before. If some of the cretins are busy worrying about being spread all over the sand and rocks they won't be so busy planning attacks on the West. Sadly rw BUSH LIED. Have you got it now? LMAO
Well congatulation to Obama for cleaning up the Islamic fanatics no matter where they come from. Not bad for a lefty eh rw? He certainly has a bigger pair than any who went before. If some of the cretins are busy worrying about being spread all over the sand and rocks they won't be so busy planning attacks on the West. Sadly rw BUSH LIED. Have you got it now? LMAO
shakespeare 2/5/2013 11:28:49 AM Report
Spelly: I have to gloat. My granddaughter called last night to tell us that she had won her school's spelling competition. She is in grade 4 but beat out all of the grade 4's,5's and 6's.
She even knows how to spell "receive"
Spelly: I have to gloat. My granddaughter called last night to tell us that she had won her school's spelling competition. She is in grade 4 but beat out all of the grade 4's,5's and 6's.
She even knows how to spell "receive"
flyhawk25 2/5/2013 11:50:36 AM Report
right wing...out of all the nonsense you have spewed -the line about the Purple Hearts in reference to Kerry is the tops.
Tell you what Keyboard Commando - how about I meet you at the VFW hall in Soo Michigan and you tell all present
'the truth' about Purple Hearts.
Two tips. Take your hat off when you enter and carry next-of-kin info in your pocket.
I'll buy your first drink.
I doubt you'll have time for the second.
right wing...out of all the nonsense you have spewed -the line about the Purple Hearts in reference to Kerry is the tops.
Tell you what Keyboard Commando - how about I meet you at the VFW hall in Soo Michigan and you tell all present
'the truth' about Purple Hearts.
Two tips. Take your hat off when you enter and carry next-of-kin info in your pocket.
I'll buy your first drink.
I doubt you'll have time for the second.
Big Bad Bob 2/5/2013 12:40:37 PM Report
flyhawk
I'm not eligible for VFW membership, but as a neutral observer who does his best to mind his own business in life, my sentiments are with you all the way on your invitation to the self-appointed, unsollicited business-minder of the entire United States of America. (I am quite certain that my late father, who was wounded three times during WWI, as a result was demobilized from the Canadian Army Corps and found nothing better to do than to sign on with the British Merchant Marine at the height of the German submarine campaign, would have loved to participate in that party!) As for me, how anyone who has never heard a gun go off in anger can have the collossal gall to collectively belittle individuals who have been awarded the Purple Heart is simply beyond my ken.
flyhawk
I'm not eligible for VFW membership, but as a neutral observer who does his best to mind his own business in life, my sentiments are with you all the way on your invitation to the self-appointed, unsollicited business-minder of the entire United States of America. (I am quite certain that my late father, who was wounded three times during WWI, as a result was demobilized from the Canadian Army Corps and found nothing better to do than to sign on with the British Merchant Marine at the height of the German submarine campaign, would have loved to participate in that party!) As for me, how anyone who has never heard a gun go off in anger can have the collossal gall to collectively belittle individuals who have been awarded the Purple Heart is simply beyond my ken.
Spellchecker 2/5/2013 12:50:02 PM Report
Shakey, congratulations to your granddaughter * . Of course we have every right to gloat over our grandchildren's accomplishments.
Shakey, congratulations to your granddaughter * . Of course we have every right to gloat over our grandchildren's accomplishments.
bounder 2/5/2013 1:02:53 PM Report
Thanks Skipper,however 41 years later and we still love each other forever and always.
Thanks Skipper,however 41 years later and we still love each other forever and always.
shakespeare 2/5/2013 2:01:56 PM Report
BBB: you have no right to criticise rw, as you live in a country of cowards and it's all right for him to say so, as his father was French. It's similarly O.K. for him to write off all purple heart recipients as his father fought in the war and he was really, really brave, not like Kerry and his ilk. I cannot imagine him turning down fly's kind offer, as he could never live down being re-named "chicken wing"
BBB: you have no right to criticise rw, as you live in a country of cowards and it's all right for him to say so, as his father was French. It's similarly O.K. for him to write off all purple heart recipients as his father fought in the war and he was really, really brave, not like Kerry and his ilk. I cannot imagine him turning down fly's kind offer, as he could never live down being re-named "chicken wing"
BIG BROTHER 2/5/2013 2:44:36 PM Report
Bill,
After the invasion, Iraq became fair game for any and all. A power vacuum was established with Saddam's ouster. Another reason the invasion was a huge disaster. He kept a tight rein on the country.
I maintain, there is little evidence of Al Quida in Iraq, pre the invasion. I would venture to say, there were more AQ in the US than Iraq.
Bill,
After the invasion, Iraq became fair game for any and all. A power vacuum was established with Saddam's ouster. Another reason the invasion was a huge disaster. He kept a tight rein on the country.
I maintain, there is little evidence of Al Quida in Iraq, pre the invasion. I would venture to say, there were more AQ in the US than Iraq.
Grump 2/5/2013 3:04:53 PM Report
I guess we could all thank Baby Bush for Iraq and the Arab Spring that came out of it. Now we have several million loose canons instead of a half dozen.
I guess we could all thank Baby Bush for Iraq and the Arab Spring that came out of it. Now we have several million loose canons instead of a half dozen.
Grump 2/5/2013 3:07:25 PM Report
Snobank A question or two. Was your Dad stationed out west, later worked at the Plant and loved to fish?
Snobank A question or two. Was your Dad stationed out west, later worked at the Plant and loved to fish?
AceOfBass 2/5/2013 3:09:20 PM Report
Chemical Weapons Recovered
On June 21, 2006 the U.S. House of Representatives Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence released key points from a classified report from the National Ground Intelligence Center on the recovery of a small number of degraded chemical munitions in Iraq. The report stated that "Coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent." However, all are thought to be pre-Gulf War munitions.[117]
These munitions meet the technical definition of weapons of mass destruction, according to the commander of the National Ground Intelligence Center. "These are chemical weapons as defined under the Chemical Weapons Convention, and yes ... they do constitute weapons of mass destruction," Army Col. John Chu told the House Armed Services Committee. The munitions addressed in the report were produced in the 1980s, Maples said. Badly corroded, they could not currently be used as originally intended, though agent remaining in the weapons would be very valuable to terrorists and insurgents, Maples said.
The USA knew that Iraq had these weapons as they supplied Hussein these chemical and biological weapons. Again ask the Kurds.
Chemical Weapons Recovered
On June 21, 2006 the U.S. House of Representatives Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence released key points from a classified report from the National Ground Intelligence Center on the recovery of a small number of degraded chemical munitions in Iraq. The report stated that "Coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent." However, all are thought to be pre-Gulf War munitions.[117]
These munitions meet the technical definition of weapons of mass destruction, according to the commander of the National Ground Intelligence Center. "These are chemical weapons as defined under the Chemical Weapons Convention, and yes ... they do constitute weapons of mass destruction," Army Col. John Chu told the House Armed Services Committee. The munitions addressed in the report were produced in the 1980s, Maples said. Badly corroded, they could not currently be used as originally intended, though agent remaining in the weapons would be very valuable to terrorists and insurgents, Maples said.
The USA knew that Iraq had these weapons as they supplied Hussein these chemical and biological weapons. Again ask the Kurds.
Bill_the_Cat 2/5/2013 3:26:36 PM Report
grump: in all fairness, the Arab Spring is a creation of Obama's administration. It was he who pushed for Mubarak's resignation.
The neo-cons (abhorrent in foreign policy as they are) still never showed the naivete of the democrats. Darn close though, as they spring from the same political source.
grump: in all fairness, the Arab Spring is a creation of Obama's administration. It was he who pushed for Mubarak's resignation.
The neo-cons (abhorrent in foreign policy as they are) still never showed the naivete of the democrats. Darn close though, as they spring from the same political source.
Grace 2/5/2013 3:26:37 PM Report
Love this video...youthful liberal attitude vs a conservative with authority.
http://guyism.com/humor/girl-gives-judge-the-finger-during-arraignment-gets-whats-coming.html
Love this video...youthful liberal attitude vs a conservative with authority.
http://guyism.com/humor/girl-gives-judge-the-finger-during-arraignment-gets-whats-coming.html
learningaswego 2/5/2013 3:32:35 PM Report
Just a few months ago, the lefties were all a-ga-ga about the wonderful "Arab Spring", and of course taking credit for it.
Now that the (entirely predictable - by any one with an ounce of common sense) outcome is a mess, the lefties have decided:
a) it's a bad thing
b) it is - of course, a conservative's fault - this week it's George Bush, next week it'll be all Harper's fault.
It's the lefty way!
Just a few months ago, the lefties were all a-ga-ga about the wonderful "Arab Spring", and of course taking credit for it.
Now that the (entirely predictable - by any one with an ounce of common sense) outcome is a mess, the lefties have decided:
a) it's a bad thing
b) it is - of course, a conservative's fault - this week it's George Bush, next week it'll be all Harper's fault.
It's the lefty way!
Bill_the_Cat 2/5/2013 3:32:49 PM Report
BB: agreed, with reservations. Hussein was cozying up to islamists in his last months--going so far as to be seen in traditional headdress. All show, I know, but there is no doubt that AQ was present. But again, never present in any large numbers until after the toppling of his government. Hardly a reason for the coalition to invade.
More AQ in the US. I suspect you are quite right. There is a large fifth column (as much as CAIR would deny) living in the US--a trip through Dearbornistan should prove enlightening. Anywhere there are Saudi funded mosques, you find Islamists, and with them AQ recruits.
BB: agreed, with reservations. Hussein was cozying up to islamists in his last months--going so far as to be seen in traditional headdress. All show, I know, but there is no doubt that AQ was present. But again, never present in any large numbers until after the toppling of his government. Hardly a reason for the coalition to invade.
More AQ in the US. I suspect you are quite right. There is a large fifth column (as much as CAIR would deny) living in the US--a trip through Dearbornistan should prove enlightening. Anywhere there are Saudi funded mosques, you find Islamists, and with them AQ recruits.
Bill_the_Cat 2/5/2013 3:42:30 PM Report
If the DoD has not rescinded the medals, I would take umbrage at any civilian questioning them. That's just not cricket.
Silver Stars are not given away like chicklets. Though getting one is as much a testament to the writing skills of one's commanding officer, as it is to the serving soldier's actions. There are many who didn't get a gong because of poor relations with the CO--but no one I know of who got one without walking the walk. (Unit citations, of course, excepted.)
If the DoD has not rescinded the medals, I would take umbrage at any civilian questioning them. That's just not cricket.
Silver Stars are not given away like chicklets. Though getting one is as much a testament to the writing skills of one's commanding officer, as it is to the serving soldier's actions. There are many who didn't get a gong because of poor relations with the CO--but no one I know of who got one without walking the walk. (Unit citations, of course, excepted.)
Big Bad Bob 2/5/2013 4:00:41 PM Report
shakespeare
Whether, anyone agrees with my opinions or not, which I recognize as being their right, I believe that I have an equivalent right to criticise the opinions of others including rw, particularly his continual, tiresome harping against the duly and democratically elected President of a neighbouring, friendly country and his subliminally racist jibes at members of our First Nations for exercising the same right. Having stated that, and refusing to descend to a certain level of debate which I despise as a matter of taste but respect as a matter of principle, I would nevertheless be interested in seeing any data which rw or ohers may wish to provide to prove that France is a country of cowards (I can think of at least a few Frenchmen with whom I would personally hesitate to tangle) and that “Kerry and his ilk” were not brave ( an adjective which in French can mean either “worthy” or “valiant” depending upon its place in a sentence.)
shakespeare
Whether, anyone agrees with my opinions or not, which I recognize as being their right, I believe that I have an equivalent right to criticise the opinions of others including rw, particularly his continual, tiresome harping against the duly and democratically elected President of a neighbouring, friendly country and his subliminally racist jibes at members of our First Nations for exercising the same right. Having stated that, and refusing to descend to a certain level of debate which I despise as a matter of taste but respect as a matter of principle, I would nevertheless be interested in seeing any data which rw or ohers may wish to provide to prove that France is a country of cowards (I can think of at least a few Frenchmen with whom I would personally hesitate to tangle) and that “Kerry and his ilk” were not brave ( an adjective which in French can mean either “worthy” or “valiant” depending upon its place in a sentence.)
Snobank 2/5/2013 4:07:35 PM Report
"At the simplest level, only people who know they do not know everything will be curious enough to find things out." Virginia Postrel, U.S. political writer (1960-)
"At the simplest level, only people who know they do not know everything will be curious enough to find things out." Virginia Postrel, U.S. political writer (1960-)
Snobank 2/5/2013 4:14:52 PM Report
"Grump 2/5/2013 3:07:25 PM Report
Snobank A question or two. Was your Dad stationed out west, later worked at the Plant and loved to fish?"
Grump, my dad was never stationed out west although some of my uncles were. He worked in the plant before the war but afterwards he went to university. Late the company he worked for (and owned) sometimes took contracts inside the plant but he never worked for the plant directly after the war.
In a odd way the war was good for him. He would have worked as a labourer in the plant for all his life like his father did. The war allowed him to afford to go to university.
He loved to hunt and fish his entire life. Thanks for asking.
"Grump 2/5/2013 3:07:25 PM Report
Snobank A question or two. Was your Dad stationed out west, later worked at the Plant and loved to fish?"
Grump, my dad was never stationed out west although some of my uncles were. He worked in the plant before the war but afterwards he went to university. Late the company he worked for (and owned) sometimes took contracts inside the plant but he never worked for the plant directly after the war.
In a odd way the war was good for him. He would have worked as a labourer in the plant for all his life like his father did. The war allowed him to afford to go to university.
He loved to hunt and fish his entire life. Thanks for asking.
Bill_the_Cat 2/5/2013 4:15:00 PM Report
The French are not cowards. Any cursory look at the battle of Verdun would put that idea to rest. A visit to the ossuary of Verdun is a sobering, very sobering experience.
They acquitted themselves well in Bosnia. In fact, as I recall, they came tooled up to fight, unlike some other countries with a leaf on their flag, and whose use of bodybags would have increased tenfold without the use of French heavy infantry and support battalions.
They have also fought well in Africa, and Afghanistan. It must be remembered that they, like everyone else, are bound by rules of engagement set up by their respective goverments. But when they do engage, they play to win.
The French are not cowards. Any cursory look at the battle of Verdun would put that idea to rest. A visit to the ossuary of Verdun is a sobering, very sobering experience.
They acquitted themselves well in Bosnia. In fact, as I recall, they came tooled up to fight, unlike some other countries with a leaf on their flag, and whose use of bodybags would have increased tenfold without the use of French heavy infantry and support battalions.
They have also fought well in Africa, and Afghanistan. It must be remembered that they, like everyone else, are bound by rules of engagement set up by their respective goverments. But when they do engage, they play to win.
shakespeare 2/5/2013 4:18:12 PM Report
BBB: you do not seem to have recognized that I was being tongue-in-cheek with that comment!
BBB: you do not seem to have recognized that I was being tongue-in-cheek with that comment!
skipper dave 2/5/2013 5:13:31 PM Report
Nice words bounder - Hers or yours - If you want a report on how I'm doing in my marriage, go ask those that live with me and the number of years mean diddly my mom and dad were the till death do us part and that happened every weekend with my mom being bounced off the walls on a regular basis. They would stand up in church to be honoured for their years of wedded bliss (hated each others guts) Us kids would snicker thru our black eyes. Can you feel the love?
Nice words bounder - Hers or yours - If you want a report on how I'm doing in my marriage, go ask those that live with me and the number of years mean diddly my mom and dad were the till death do us part and that happened every weekend with my mom being bounced off the walls on a regular basis. They would stand up in church to be honoured for their years of wedded bliss (hated each others guts) Us kids would snicker thru our black eyes. Can you feel the love?
shakespeare 2/5/2013 5:29:44 PM Report
You are right, Spelly. I guess I was raised on too much Monty Python, Goon Shows and David Frost, not to mention Private Eye magazine. It's funny having two daughters, one of whom "gets" irony all the time and the other who doesn't at all.
The grandchildren are fresh minds to manipulate! (IA)
You are right, Spelly. I guess I was raised on too much Monty Python, Goon Shows and David Frost, not to mention Private Eye magazine. It's funny having two daughters, one of whom "gets" irony all the time and the other who doesn't at all.
The grandchildren are fresh minds to manipulate! (IA)
mallet 2/5/2013 5:46:24 PM Report
Grump and R W.
How about biting the hand that feeds you! Some members of the Attawapiskat Reserve are now blockading the winter road to the Debeers Victor mine.. Must be guys who didn't get hired there or were let go (fired) or part of the Idle no more supporters...
Grump and R W.
How about biting the hand that feeds you! Some members of the Attawapiskat Reserve are now blockading the winter road to the Debeers Victor mine.. Must be guys who didn't get hired there or were let go (fired) or part of the Idle no more supporters...
shakespeare 2/5/2013 5:51:04 PM Report
flyhawk understands irony,too! He lets rw unwittingly dig a hole for himself and then provides a great opportunity for him to fall in. It'll be interesting to hear the armchair hero talk his way out of the
"Hell they handed out purple hearts by the box full, wounds treated by a band aid got one."
flyhawk understands irony,too! He lets rw unwittingly dig a hole for himself and then provides a great opportunity for him to fall in. It'll be interesting to hear the armchair hero talk his way out of the
"Hell they handed out purple hearts by the box full, wounds treated by a band aid got one."
flyhawk25 2/5/2013 6:25:58 PM Report
Shakespeare...me too.
Get ready for 'a false equivalency'- Logic 101.
Shakespeare...me too.
Get ready for 'a false equivalency'- Logic 101.
Grump 2/5/2013 6:32:39 PM Report
Snobank I likely worked with an uncle of yours years ago at the plant. He was Stationed out west, married to a teacher and was a foreman at the plant. He lived on McNabb in those days.
Snobank I likely worked with an uncle of yours years ago at the plant. He was Stationed out west, married to a teacher and was a foreman at the plant. He lived on McNabb in those days.
Grump 2/5/2013 6:38:08 PM Report
Something just occured to me. I haven't heard rw state that he can take on a roomfull of lefties with half his brain tied behind his back for a long while now. Does anyone suppose he has had a change of heart??? Nah hell no. He may be feeling slightly abused though.
Something just occured to me. I haven't heard rw state that he can take on a roomfull of lefties with half his brain tied behind his back for a long while now. Does anyone suppose he has had a change of heart??? Nah hell no. He may be feeling slightly abused though.
flyhawk25 2/5/2013 6:53:16 PM Report
Easy now.
Let's not pile on.
We saw a self-inflicted time-out period from rw after Mitt lost.
Now we may be seeing deja-vu all over again. To quote Yogi.
Even the resident Swamp People are silent.
It must be tough to be so right and so wrong.
Be gentle.
Easy now.
Let's not pile on.
We saw a self-inflicted time-out period from rw after Mitt lost.
Now we may be seeing deja-vu all over again. To quote Yogi.
Even the resident Swamp People are silent.
It must be tough to be so right and so wrong.
Be gentle.
nanag 2/5/2013 7:04:21 PM Report
Okay I have a few things to say here:
I realize I am ALWAYS out of the loop and know next to nothing of what you are all talking about.
Maybe I should be reading more and scrolling less but something said earlier needs clarifying.
why are some on here saying the French are cowards?
did I read that right?
has everyone on here been to war? were you heroes? were you more brave than the French?
I have French heritage and I am offended by what was said. I am hoping I am misunderstanding or missing the point.
Okay I have a few things to say here:
I realize I am ALWAYS out of the loop and know next to nothing of what you are all talking about.
Maybe I should be reading more and scrolling less but something said earlier needs clarifying.
why are some on here saying the French are cowards?
did I read that right?
has everyone on here been to war? were you heroes? were you more brave than the French?
I have French heritage and I am offended by what was said. I am hoping I am misunderstanding or missing the point.
shakespeare 2/5/2013 7:11:28 PM Report
nanag: your friend right wing over two days had messages about the French shooting over their shoulders as they ran away and then spoke of sunburned hands as they were so used to having them up in the air. Remember, he was the guy who ridiculed the opinion of a cab driver.
As I hope it is now obvious, my comment to BBB was ironic.
nanag: your friend right wing over two days had messages about the French shooting over their shoulders as they ran away and then spoke of sunburned hands as they were so used to having them up in the air. Remember, he was the guy who ridiculed the opinion of a cab driver.
As I hope it is now obvious, my comment to BBB was ironic.
Bill_the_Cat 2/5/2013 7:21:27 PM Report
nanag: In general, the 'French are cowards' thing comes from our yankee cousins, who seem to forget their own country would not exist as such were it not for the French.
Oddly enough, it exists amongst the history impaired (overlapping group with the yanks) who have no idea of the losses incurred in ww1, and the psychological impact of almost 75% casualties in the army.
I am not French, and enjoy taking the p!ss out of them as much as anyone. But not in this.
Interestingly, I have never met a US serviceman disparage their French NATO counterparts.
nanag: In general, the 'French are cowards' thing comes from our yankee cousins, who seem to forget their own country would not exist as such were it not for the French.
Oddly enough, it exists amongst the history impaired (overlapping group with the yanks) who have no idea of the losses incurred in ww1, and the psychological impact of almost 75% casualties in the army.
I am not French, and enjoy taking the p!ss out of them as much as anyone. But not in this.
Interestingly, I have never met a US serviceman disparage their French NATO counterparts.
Pink Peony 2/5/2013 8:18:58 PM Report
I was just reading through the headlines on Google News and this one made me laugh out loud.
"Quebec construction boss fingers civil servant in corruption inquiry testimony"
I was just reading through the headlines on Google News and this one made me laugh out loud.
"Quebec construction boss fingers civil servant in corruption inquiry testimony"
becauseican 2/5/2013 8:26:46 PM Report
skipper dave
lol...ya...a canine...he used to chase cars on Mcnabb...when it was a gravel road...great dog.
skipper dave
lol...ya...a canine...he used to chase cars on Mcnabb...when it was a gravel road...great dog.
joewho999 2/5/2013 8:56:15 PM Report
Spelly My father was with the 119 originally the 52 that got mustard gas in the trenches.My father was a runner and was on a mission,that saved him.He was described as a intrepid soldier.I still have the papers.
Spelly My father was with the 119 originally the 52 that got mustard gas in the trenches.My father was a runner and was on a mission,that saved him.He was described as a intrepid soldier.I still have the papers.
Snobank 2/5/2013 10:49:19 PM Report
"becauseican 2/5/2013 8:09:41 PM
Snobank
They had a black Newfie...called Tippy?"
I think so but I'm not sure. It was a while back. Bert is still alive in his mid-nineties
"becauseican 2/5/2013 8:09:41 PM
Snobank
They had a black Newfie...called Tippy?"
I think so but I'm not sure. It was a while back. Bert is still alive in his mid-nineties
becauseican 2/5/2013 11:13:15 PM Report
Snobank
I don't think that there were many Berts and Gerts on McNabb in the sixties. Bert worked in the Open Hearth Lab...an avid outdoorsman who shared his knowledge.
Snobank
I don't think that there were many Berts and Gerts on McNabb in the sixties. Bert worked in the Open Hearth Lab...an avid outdoorsman who shared his knowledge.
becauseican 2/5/2013 11:17:02 PM Report
Grace
I tried to view the link you posted...my pc crashed...I don't think I'll go there no more...thanks.
Grace
I tried to view the link you posted...my pc crashed...I don't think I'll go there no more...thanks.
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