statusquo 1/30/2013 6:13:04 AM Report
TankGirl 1/29/2013 7:47:33 PM Report
"Let me put it this, if I were a lawyer, I would never work for the defense."
Brianne 1/30/2013 6:45:15 AM Report
FLy, forgive me, I never realized who you were yesterday afternoon , until you drove away. It was me with the big dog :)
Grace 1/30/2013 6:45:59 AM Report
Ahhhh..another day in paradise!!It's a great life if you don't weaken!
nanag 1/30/2013 7:33:15 AM Report
Good Morning Everyone
I hope the roads, driveways and sidewalks are safer than yesterday.. I don't know if I would be in great form for boot surfing like I did yesterday :)
Grump 1/30/2013 7:39:57 AM Report
nanag be carefull as it's either boot or butt. lol
Grump 1/30/2013 7:41:01 AM Report
Good morning everyone, be carefull on the ice. Have a great day all.
RLE 1/30/2013 7:58:34 AM Report
I think there's a song that kind of describes the day. It had the words "Slip sliding away"
right wing 1/30/2013 8:02:34 AM Report
"So perhaps Chief Louie is a neo-con supporter and that's why he supports the Harper regime...just saying is all."
So when you have one of your own, a very well respected Chief, that has proven the way to prosperity and he goes against the INM approach to the problem, telling it like it really is...he is a neo-con supporter that supports the "Harper regime".
I used to have some respect for your view points on the FN's issues, used to that is.
I notice you conveniently sidestep directly commenting on those who think the same as Chief Louie.
When Chief Louie makes statements like "stop blaming the white man", "get a job", "get an education", etc., he makes these because he is a neo-con but not because he is simply telling a truth?
You truly are losing the battle and have nothing left to fight with.
nanag 1/30/2013 8:05:47 AM Report
You should have seen me yesterday.. didn't fall but there was some very fancy footwork.. would have been a good youtube video :)
right wing 1/30/2013 8:06:49 AM Report
...and flyhawk...tisk, tisk, tisk, you do try, I'll give you that.
I have never said there is no such thing as Global Warming (it's climate change actually), just that it is not "man driven".
...and I, as others did yesterday, just loved your choice of "experts".
Blew coffee out my nose on the Al Gore selection and I'm sure Suzuki would be honoured to know that he has been lumped in with such a genius as Al.
Of course you were just baiting...of course!
right wing 1/30/2013 8:11:51 AM Report
Don't know if it got answered but yes Right Winger and I are two different posters.
I know your heart rate must have increased, palms got sweaty and your blood pressure went up at the thought of two like me....but, sadly, no.
Right Winger 1/30/2013 8:35:34 AM Report
I will admit this today though. I am torn on the 150 million dollar claim by the Batchewana First Nations.
nanag 1/30/2013 8:36:39 AM Report
yes I must say I was perplexed.. I think I really did know that there could only be one you (hands clasped together, eyes upward, in a quick thank you prayer) hahahh Just kidding.. I do enjoy "listening" to you and a few others
right wing 1/30/2013 8:39:27 AM Report
Torn? Please, do tell.
Right Winger 1/30/2013 8:46:29 AM Report
Well, put it this way. Governement took land, then gave it back, kind of admits wrong.
We want them to be self sufficient but don't allow it.
RLE 1/30/2013 8:56:32 AM Report
Right Winger: That one sentence "We want them to be self sufficient but don't allow it." pretty much describes the entire problem in our dealings with native people for the last couple of hundred years
flyhawk25 1/30/2013 8:58:57 AM Report
I had just finished mentally lamenting the demise of Gore St.and a nice lady walking a dog seemed like a ray of sunshine.Talk about a chance encounter.
I always try to shop locally and when my daughter's vacuum's belt broke after trying unsuccessfully to get it apart and replace it I just decided to try out my guy on Gore Street.
Good product, good price and someone who actually knows his products.
Generally I'd stop and pet a dog on a leash but I was in a bit of a rush.
Nice to see you!
Drop me a line.
right wing 1/30/2013 9:14:21 AM Report
Way to tired to get on this merry-go-round again.
I hear what you are saying but I also fail to see how that ties in with this over the top law suit.
I'm really hearing and paying attention to those Chiefs that have been running successful, economically strong, educated reserves and I agree with them, that's the way....not blocking a highway.
Right Winger 1/30/2013 9:20:58 AM Report
Exactly, just like the Batchewana FN did last week with the wind farm (though I disagree with any form of green energy proppled up by the gov't). Where I am torn, is that sure you say today you lost $150,000,000. It would have been wonderful if that would have been the number had they been able to fish it. However how can we be sure that they would have fished it and fished it effeiciently to sustain it or even to make a profit?
TankGirl 1/30/2013 10:04:00 AM Report
Stats - Never. Few and far between are the examples such as the one shared above.
Bad Dawg 1/30/2013 10:44:46 AM Report
They have been ripped off for over 400 million. And who knows what else.
Right Winger 1/30/2013 11:03:58 AM Report
What 400 million dollars?
Canna D. Yenn 1/30/2013 11:04:52 AM Report
Best wishes for a successful suit against the government.
I feel for you. I know what it’s like to have rights and privileges removed e.g. the 1947 HEPC land grab for the Rayner transmission line; the MFN 1994 northern boundary land claim settlement north of Iron Bridge; the MNR prohibiting me from motoring to a lake that I have fished on since 1955; or the many hunting restrictions imposed on us since 1970.
If you are successful, the total impact for me is minimal and quite manageable at about $5.00. That’s not too much… what… 3 double-doubles, or a little less than 4 litres of gas, or a burger and soda, or 40 minutes idling at a road block?
Or put another way, $150 million for the loss of a fishery at the Sault Rapids for 107 years equals about 5 years of government payments to one James Bay community, or the cost of 1.5 F35 jet fighters.
Your suit is quite reasonable, I’d say.
Bad Dawg 1/30/2013 11:17:56 AM Report
RW this may help
shorty38 1/30/2013 11:18:05 AM Report
Check out gas prices, looks like price fixing is alive & well in Sault Ste Marie Canada.
Bad Dawg 1/30/2013 11:27:25 AM Report
uh oh I am starting to dislike the Gov't and with all their power my computer may get zapped from a satelite.... who has an extra tin foil hat?
let the revolution begin.... and the queen gets charged for trespassing. hahaha There are plenty of non FN people who want to give FN more than a reserve.
Grace 1/30/2013 11:31:43 AM Report
For Right Wing..
White House blames Sandy, spending cuts as economy shrinks
What.. can't blame George for this one??
Wisenheimer 1/30/2013 11:36:15 AM Report
Yo .. Can someone give me an intelligent response to "how the road conditions would be to drive from Detroit to the Soo today or Thursday".(I75). Rw, Spelly, ??
Left Winger 1/30/2013 11:50:07 AM Report
here is an interested video dealing with the abduction and rape of an aboriginal woman in Thunder Bay over the holiday season...
these hate crimes have been happening for a very long time now and people wonder why FN peoples don't trust the governemt or police forces....
That Figures 1/30/2013 11:52:41 AM Report
Try this link and click on winter road conditions.
Left Winger 1/30/2013 11:56:22 AM Report
thought for the day -
"I am no longer accepting the things that I cannot change - I am changing the things that I cannot accept!"
northernmale 1/30/2013 12:14:38 PM Report
Ihave a problem with the white fish claim, as i sure many do. I rember seeing nets set at the mouth of the Echo Bay River, catching evey fish going up, I have seen nets in small inland lakes , set by the natives , the lakes ended up being fished out of pickeral.. I rember a few years back the ministrey finding a load of fish left to rot at a dump by Montreal River. The fish had been left in nets to long and where no good.Once again was traced to natives. Then they claim its about white fish .. Why would they take this money and there chief says to build a fish plant.. Ok if all the fish are gone as he claims what are they going to build a plant for??? It all comes down to money grab... And buying votes.. He also has aproblem with the developement along the river caused this problem.. Who do you think payed for the roads he drives his vehicles on, the hospitals his people use the schools etc. the people who worked at these places and payed taxes. I think its time he stops talking out of both sides of his face,, Tell it like it realy is its all about MONEY AND VOTES, nothing to do with your people...maybe its time to start looking at yoursefs , you can not blame the white man and Goverment for evything that has happened ..
bounder 1/30/2013 12:40:12 PM Report
You can blame the whiteman ,if you stayed home ,nothing would have changed.
theprotector 1/30/2013 12:42:21 PM Report
careful left wing you may be preaching to the "hooded"
the largest decline in the fishery was caused the commercial fishery of the white man. We would not let the first nations fish with anything but a small boat with a tiller -at best. This did not change until the mnr determined they allowed the non native fishery to destory the lake trout and whitefish in Huron and Superior. Throw in some sea lamprey and pacific salmon (to feed on the fry), a preditory smelt species (oops got that one wrong hey gov?) and there you have it...no fish left and it was at this time they handed the commerical fishing licences over to the first nations and said "here now you can fish..." Some of the family names that raped the resource unsustainablly are still very prominent here in the Sault, rarely do they speak of how they made their fortune. But hey why not blame the damn indians, you did it to the jewish people!
Right Winger 1/30/2013 12:49:50 PM Report
If you look at posts that protector seems to reference you will find nothing that would justify his/her insistance to lable the posters as neo-nazi or KKK
He/she should be removed for this.
Bad Dawg 1/30/2013 12:50:22 PM Report
for the fish left at the dump..... poachers come to Canada and steal meat or trophy racks out of season every year. Every race has there own "bad apples". Back before we got here the elders would have severely punished the wrong doers.... what did the white man do with poachers?? NOTHING BUT INVITE THEM BACK BUT WITH A SMALL FINE!!
Bad Dawg 1/30/2013 1:00:36 PM Report
When ancestors believed they had the right just come to a country and "civilize" it. When in fact it was civilized. Just not by Europeans who felt their way of life was better.... kind of does sound like the ideas of a certain dictator!!
theprotector 1/30/2013 1:21:26 PM Report
ooooh...wait a minute its ok to attack a distinct race of people, stereo type them and hate monger...then you yourself get labeled for doing so...and you run crying???? Seriously?
Voiceofreason 1/30/2013 1:33:51 PM Report
Well TankGirl, it's great that other people are able to become defense attorneys. Mr. Mullins-Johnson being free from prison is at the hands of a defending attorney. Otherwise he'd be rotting in jail for a crime he didn't commit. How about Canadian firearm owners who are wrongfully & violently arrested by the RCMP out of the blue for "being a public threat" when they abide by every law set forth. They just beat the living daylights out of people, lay charges and ask questions later.
Yes, I'm glad for defense lawyers.
Right Winger 1/30/2013 1:36:12 PM Report
Sir or madam,
I disagree with their way of protesting. I suggested we do the same to them. You say I want to coral them up and then call me a neo-nazi.
We discuss their claim. So to discuss thier claim we must speak of them as we cannot speak in general terms as I do not believe any other "race" is involved. You invoke the KKK and Nazis.
Again, if you disagree with a certain group of people that does not make you racist. Again I ask you is Chief Clarance Louie a racist?
Left Winger 1/30/2013 1:43:45 PM Report
no just an uncle Tom
theprotector 1/30/2013 1:46:40 PM Report
back peddling now huh? You were the one that set the tone, you were the one that said you wanted to blockade them from coming off their reserve.
I havent heard you say squat about the teacher protests or for that matter any other protests, oh wait I forgot.....
Left Winger 1/30/2013 1:48:22 PM Report
Judge to feds: Turn over Indian schools files
funny how the Harper regime initiated this review yet is putting road blocks in the way of the commission.
Here''s hoping the Harper regime does the right thing and turn over all files pertaining to the Residential Schools, perhaps then we can find out where they buried all of the little children who died at these concentration style camps
Right Winger 1/30/2013 1:50:36 PM Report
The teachers protests blocked the enterance to the office of the MPP, and yesterday the office of the ADSB.
The customs officers protested at their place of work.
What I stated yesterday several times but you never wanted to hear or see, was exactly what I stated above.
right wing 1/30/2013 2:05:15 PM Report
...a little advice if I may.
Just scroll past "thepricktector", he is a complete ass that simply inflates, spins and invents to suit his immature rants.
right wing 1/30/2013 2:06:08 PM Report
An Uncle Tom is he.
Congrats you have reached a new low.
right wing 1/30/2013 2:09:52 PM Report
Are these Dems not absolutely hilarious.
Bush's fault, the storm's fault...everybody fault but their own over the top out of control spending.
Good link, keep em coming.
Left Winger 1/30/2013 2:14:39 PM Report
just trying to keep pace with you r'w
right wing 1/30/2013 2:18:40 PM Report
So the Chief of the Onion Lake Cree Nation is also an Uncle Tom.
right wing 1/30/2013 2:22:09 PM Report
Your avoidance to discuss and now your attempts to disgrace a very successful Chief of the F.N.'s speaks volumes.
True colours pal.
everson 1/30/2013 2:25:10 PM Report
GREAT minds discuss ideas
Average minds discuss events
small minds discuss people
old-cat33 1/30/2013 2:28:12 PM Report
Hey Brianne: Are my little mit's ready for my truck yet?
So now someone is turning the old St.Marys building into a Rock Club?
Go easy out there people the parking lots are slippery.
right wing 1/30/2013 2:29:28 PM Report
Mullins/Johnston was not released due to the work of a defense Lawyer.
He was released due to the sloppy work and record keeping of a Pathologist.
Bit of a difference.
A crime was still committed.
It just brought into question who really did it.
Unfortunately due to the Pathologist bad work habits nobody will ever really know.
lambkins 1/30/2013 2:39:38 PM Report
"Mullins-Johnson was exonerated by the Ontario Court of Appeal in October 2007 after it was determined the child died from natural causes."
Here is the link for the rest of the article
everson 1/30/2013 2:41:14 PM Report
He who posts often, is justifying his purpose, yeah right. Parden the damn pun, but take note.
theprotector 1/30/2013 2:50:01 PM Report
read the gouge report, there was no crime
right wing 1/30/2013 2:55:23 PM Report
I stand corrected.
I had not read that they had concluded the death was due to natural causes.
The W-5 show that I watched focused on the shoddy work of Pathologist Dr. Smith but I did not recall them making a finding of natural causes in the death.
right wing 1/30/2013 3:03:14 PM Report
...that sound of mosquitoes again, sounds like two this time.
...and in the winter...must be that dam climate change.
flyhawk25 1/30/2013 3:20:32 PM Report
There is no climate change.
Sheesh...make up your mind and stop confusing me.
right wing 1/30/2013 3:22:56 PM Report
Climate change has been happening on this planet since the "big bang".
You fully well know that my issue is with man driven climate change.
Now run along and play stupid somewhere else...uh, if that is possible.
Grace 1/30/2013 3:34:31 PM Report
RW I'm going to have to disagree..not mosquito season....it's snow fly season!
flyhawk25 1/30/2013 3:39:00 PM Report
That hurt. Imagine being dismissed by the resident Site Expert on Everything.
Good thing I have a good therapist or I'd be forever scarred.
right wing 1/30/2013 3:41:59 PM Report
...to late for me to do it...you dismissed yourself when you called Al Gore a Climate expert.
right wing 1/30/2013 4:00:11 PM Report
...anybody want to discuss interplanetary global warming.
nanag 1/30/2013 4:01:37 PM Report
the posters on here seem as testy as the weather.. everybody just sit , take a deep breath and sip a nice hot cup of tea...my cure for just about everything
right wing 1/30/2013 4:04:39 PM Report
Is coffee O.K.
You don't have to answer this but are you a nurse?
shakespeare 1/30/2013 4:10:05 PM Report
nanag: you sound just like my friends from back home. From whatever outing, they walk in the door, put the kettle on and relax to a "nice cuppa". The first word out of their mouth, after the first sip is ... "Luvly" followed by a contented sigh.
shakespeare 1/30/2013 4:11:33 PM Report
I prefer a beer and a blonde joke:
Bob walked into a sports bar around 9:58 PM.
He sat down next to a blonde at the bar
and stared up at the TV.
The 10 PM news was coming on.
The news crew was covering the story
Of a man on the ledge of a large building preparing to jump.
The blonde looked at Bob and said,
"Do you think he'll jump?"
Bob said, "You know, I bet he'll jump."
The blonde replied, "Well, I bet he won't."
Bob placed a $20 bill on the bar and said, "You're on!"
Just as the blonde placed her money on the bar, the guy on the ledge
did a swan dive off the building,
falling to his death.
The blonde was very upset, but willingly handed her $20 to Bob.
"Fair's fair. Here's your money."
Bob replied, "I can't take your money.
I saw this earlier on the 5 PM news,
so I knew he would jump."
The blonde replied, "I did, too,
But I didn't think he'd do it again."
Bob took the money.
right wing 1/30/2013 4:22:58 PM Report
Hahahaha...good one shakey.
A blonde was standing on the shore of a lake.
She sees another blonde on the other side of the lake.
She yells out "how do you get to the other side of the lake"?
The other blonde yells back "you are on the other side of the lake".
nanag 1/30/2013 4:25:35 PM Report
Yes I am
Shakespeare I used to (sigh) after other ummm enjoyments now it is just after sipping a good cuppa.. liked the joke :)
right wing 1/30/2013 4:39:23 PM Report
I was following a story in the local paper on a nurse, Niki Maione, had been fired from her job due to an accusation by a fellow worker that she had struck a patient.
The patient was suffering from dementia and was know to be belligerent and strike out at times.
My question is (I was surprised that she was fired from her job based simply on an accusation)would your union not protect nurses from being fired based simply on an accusation?
The last I read on it the trial was to continue (that was in December) but I have not read anything on it since.
right wing 1/30/2013 4:42:20 PM Report
If you have not read of it here is a link to the news article.
shakespeare 1/30/2013 4:56:04 PM Report
On face value, rw, that sounds pretty disturbing. It'll be interesting to see how this pans out.
I have no hesitation whatsoever in saying that nursing is the profession that I admire the most.
right wing 1/30/2013 5:10:27 PM Report
I call them "the angels in comfortable shoes".
I spent some time in the hospital due to an auto accident.
Once the Dr's job is initially over and you are left to mend these dedicated nurses are unbelievable in what they do for you.
At a time when your dignity is left at the door they make you feel like everything is O.K., your ass sticking out and sh*tting in a metal pan is somehow normal. LOL.
It is one of those jobs that I could never do but I say God bless those that do.
nikapeakin 1/30/2013 5:16:21 PM Report
From what I,ve read the patient was a very bad abuser.It may have well been self defence!!You would think this could have been dealt with between bosses/union ect .Word against word?Has anyone seen any fireflies last summer?I heard they have become extinct?Global warming,polution,ect city,s that cannet drain due to concrete and no grass or trees.They just keep fiiling up and city,s are flooded out Thank god most of Canada preserves some of our nature. Money rules our world!!
right wing 1/30/2013 5:18:35 PM Report
A bad abuser????
The "patient" had a stroke and was suffering from dementia.
Bobby Nerves 1/30/2013 5:26:15 PM Report
huh... and when you, finally, get to fart after a surgery... they will amuse you with a: That's music to my ears!
And they say it in a way that you fill like another one for the way.
Only in our very own always loved Soo Hospital.
right wing 1/30/2013 5:42:10 PM Report
Ha! Is that not true.
...but I think I scared nanag away.
nanag 1/30/2013 5:43:56 PM Report
nurses do have union.. there must be more to this story . If there was obvious mark on the patient then there has to be disciplinary action. She can certainly appeal. First priority is patient safety. It is difficult dealing with aggressive dementia patients but there is never any excuse to strike or harm these unfortunate individuals.
nikapeakin 1/30/2013 5:49:18 PM Report
Sorry.that is what I read in the sault star that he swore at nurses and hit them.Maybe we shouldn,t believe waht they said at court.I always found good and bad in nurses.I would say by far better!Some bad cases of neglect as far as cleanliness as I have witnessed in my own mothers care.
right wing 1/30/2013 5:51:49 PM Report
...he did, but he is not accountable for his actions due to his medical condition.
right wing 1/30/2013 5:53:02 PM Report
So all a co-worker has to do is make an accusation that you hit a patient and you get fired?
That is what the news article is stating.
nanag 1/30/2013 5:57:53 PM Report
you know it is funny but I have a fabulous day when one of my long time patients has a good crap(sorry B.M.)
When I have a shy or nervous patient and I am doing personal care I talk about everyday things .. like my car or my daughters horses or about sports.. just to take their mind off the fact that i am touching their??? or slapping on a pair of gloves to ??
right wing it takes quite a bit to scare off this old bird :)
nanag 1/30/2013 6:03:57 PM Report
I think there is more to the story ..as to why she got fired.
you can bet your bare butt there are good AND bad nurses ..some are strictly in it for the money.. most are in it for the right reasons
right wing 1/30/2013 6:14:03 PM Report
Perhaps there is and I am using what I have been reading as my information source.
I'm not trying to be overly persistent, but my question is still the same.
If a fellow worker makes an accusation that you have assaulted a patient you can be fired without union protection?
right wing 1/30/2013 6:19:40 PM Report
...did you read the news link?
popppp 1/30/2013 6:26:19 PM Report
my mom went to tje hospital this week. she is 89 years old. waited two hours for doctor. he asked her why she took ambulance. none of his bissnce. he wasnt paying for it. i wish i was there then. she has phemonia/ send her home. the drug store could not beleive they gave her pills and her home. they said your wife is very ill. now she wont go back. the pills dont agree with her. what a sin.
BIG BROTHER 1/30/2013 6:27:41 PM Report
I would walk carefully with your responses about a colleague who was fired. There is obviously more to the story, but for your own sake, best to let people speculate. Let the courts sort it out.
nanag 1/30/2013 6:28:39 PM Report
Yes I read the link... to answer your question... I guess you can.. because apparently they did fire her.. perhaps the union is looking into things...
I know that sometimes the immediate action is appealed and under certain circumstances .... overturned.
right wing 1/30/2013 6:33:04 PM Report
Typical of you.
Did you read the link?
I am asking nothing on speculation.
This is public information via a court case.
I am simply asking about their union protection in a case like this.
Good grief, frigging St*&^d teachers.
right wing 1/30/2013 6:36:17 PM Report
From the Sault Star.
"She said she was “shocked” when she was called to a meeting on March 23 and told she was accused of assaulting the man.
Maione said she doesn't know of any reason why Graveline would make this allegation.
“I don't know,” the crying woman said. “It's gone through my head so many times. Because of this I lost everything. That's why it's so emotional for me.”
Maione was terminated from her job after the allegation was made."
Doesn't sound like a whole lot of union protection went on there.
right wing 1/30/2013 6:47:48 PM Report
Time to go...
Certainly was not trying to turn this into the Spanish Inquisition.
The story just made me wonder how this women could be fired based on an accusation.
We have all read about police officers and teachers, for example, that have been accused of something and put on leave with pay.
I was simply trying to get a straight forward answer as to the way the nurses union protects their own.
I have another source so I will check it and let you know.
nanag 1/30/2013 6:55:57 PM Report
Sorry I didn't have the answer you wanted to hear.. having never been in a situation or had anyone close have an issue like that I am not the one to ask. Unions work in mysterious ways too. Not really sure what I was suppose to tell you.. bottom line is I don't know why she was fired or how she was fired if she has union backup.. there is obviously a reason but I don't know how it all works .. sorry
shakespeare 1/30/2013 6:59:49 PM Report
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!!
right wing 1/30/2013 7:09:39 PM Report
LMFAO...shakey you are on fire with the humour lately.
Of course I had to take a peek in....
Thanks for your replies.
I do have a contact in your union.
nanag 1/30/2013 10:27:34 PM Report
where did everybody go? was there a party and I am the only one not invited?
Hmmm guess I'll go to bed :(