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skipper dave 1/17/2013 5:20:57 AM Report
Good morning sweet Soo!
Big news item of the day - Fly and his errant elevator have forgiven all and once again Fly has his wing's.
Yes obama gun control - if nothing else the man has balls. Had this been a canadian politician the man would have announced his retirement and shutdown the factory for six months. As a fan of Obama I'm thinking that this is going to be a bruiser for the man. Look what he's going up against. A congress that is completely unplugged from the people and occasionally may have a brain fart that has the populace shaking their heads and the beloved National Rifle Association. the NRA are composed of boys like you and I that have discovered a truth that most of us are embarrassed to admit. We get a little chub on when we fire the great equalizer. Our puritanical fundamental bible belt types will always be blindsided by it's refusal to accept our full sexuality. So we dress it up and hide it in the right to bear arms.
As a kid I was happiest making weapons and got my first cooey 22 at 12. Went out and shot at anything that did or did not move. the point I'm trying to make is if we make the connection and admit it's a real turn on can we modify and compromise our needs so that a weapon capable of firing thirty rounds not fall into the hands of the nutbars. Do we need handguns? if not discuss disarming the general public then come down hard on anyone carrying a concealed weapon. I bet the technology exists to sniff out a gun within a hundred feet of a car. How far do we go in order to reach an acceptable to all level of the right to own guns. Surely the right move is something away from making it as simple as buying a pack of cigarettes to filling out a twenty page psychological assessment by a mental health professional? I'm thinking the timing is right but the rational gains will be incrementally slow.
Good morning sweet Soo!
Big news item of the day - Fly and his errant elevator have forgiven all and once again Fly has his wing's.
Yes obama gun control - if nothing else the man has balls. Had this been a canadian politician the man would have announced his retirement and shutdown the factory for six months. As a fan of Obama I'm thinking that this is going to be a bruiser for the man. Look what he's going up against. A congress that is completely unplugged from the people and occasionally may have a brain fart that has the populace shaking their heads and the beloved National Rifle Association. the NRA are composed of boys like you and I that have discovered a truth that most of us are embarrassed to admit. We get a little chub on when we fire the great equalizer. Our puritanical fundamental bible belt types will always be blindsided by it's refusal to accept our full sexuality. So we dress it up and hide it in the right to bear arms.
As a kid I was happiest making weapons and got my first cooey 22 at 12. Went out and shot at anything that did or did not move. the point I'm trying to make is if we make the connection and admit it's a real turn on can we modify and compromise our needs so that a weapon capable of firing thirty rounds not fall into the hands of the nutbars. Do we need handguns? if not discuss disarming the general public then come down hard on anyone carrying a concealed weapon. I bet the technology exists to sniff out a gun within a hundred feet of a car. How far do we go in order to reach an acceptable to all level of the right to own guns. Surely the right move is something away from making it as simple as buying a pack of cigarettes to filling out a twenty page psychological assessment by a mental health professional? I'm thinking the timing is right but the rational gains will be incrementally slow.
theprotector 1/17/2013 6:15:57 AM Report
oh man what image to start the day, you polishing your barrel!!!
oh man what image to start the day, you polishing your barrel!!!
skipper dave 1/17/2013 7:14:51 AM Report
Yea Protect, your right - The real reason we like to shoot assault weapons on full auto and wear camo is to protect our loved ones from pinko commies like myself. Personally I wear briefs not boxers when out on the range!
Yea Protect, your right - The real reason we like to shoot assault weapons on full auto and wear camo is to protect our loved ones from pinko commies like myself. Personally I wear briefs not boxers when out on the range!
skipper dave 1/17/2013 8:10:47 AM Report
Truth be told I'm a complete pacifist and don't have as much as a sling shot in the house. As a bald one armed guy it's one of those skills in life that have eluded me along with wall papering and tying shoes but then again I'm not finished yet.
Truth be told I'm a complete pacifist and don't have as much as a sling shot in the house. As a bald one armed guy it's one of those skills in life that have eluded me along with wall papering and tying shoes but then again I'm not finished yet.
right wing 1/17/2013 8:36:33 AM Report
Left Winger
You have always been very vocal on F.N. rights.
For the most part you have tried to educate about misconceptions.
Lately, not so much.
One example.
"Left Winger 1/16/2013 3:32:36 PM Report
Harper personally drew the approval of 46 per cent of those polled for his actions on the aboriginal file
that number just tells the world the number of bigots in Canada that support an extreme right agenda.
don't be so easily fooled by Harper and his gang of thugs - they are far right extremist dressed in sheep's clothing"
**************************************
This was posted the other day and I have read similar critical speeches by Chief Louie.
Chief Clarence Louie, Osoyoos BC speaking in Northern Alberta :
Speaking to a large aboriginal conference and some of the attendees, including a few who hold high office, have straggled in.
'I can't stand people who are late, he says into the microphone. Indian Time doesn't cut it. '
Some giggle, but no one is quite sure how far he is going to go. Just sit back and listen:
'My first rule for success is Show up on time.'
'My No. 2 rule for success is follow Rule No. 1.'
'If your life sucks, it's because you suck.'
'Quit your sniffling.'
'Join the real world. Go to school, or get a job.'
'Get off of welfare. Get off your butt.'
He pauses, seeming to gauge whether he dare, then does.
'People often say to me, How you doin'? Geez I'm working with Indians what do you think?'
Now they are openly laughing ..... applauding. Clarence Louie is everything that was advertised and more.
'Our ancestors worked for a living, he says. So should you.'
He is, fortunately, aboriginal himself. If someone else stood up and said these things - the white columnist standing there with his mouth open, for example - you'd be seen as a racist. Instead, Chief Clarence Louie is seen, increasingly, as one of the most interesting and innovative native leaders in the country even though he avoids national politics.
He has come here to Fort McMurray because the aboriginal community needs, desperately, to start talking about economic development and what all this multibillion-dollar oil madness might mean, for good and for bad.
Clarence Louie is chief and CEO of the Osoyoos Band in British Columbia's South Okanagan. He is 44 years old, though he looks like he would have been an infant when he began his remarkable 20-year-run as chief.. He took a band that had been declared bankrupt and taken over by Indian Affairs and he has turned in into an inspiration.
In 2000, the band set a goal of becoming self-sufficient in five years. They're there.
The Osoyoos, 432 strong, own, among other things, a vineyard, a winery, a golf course and a tourist resort, and they are partners in the Baldy Mountain ski development. They have more businesses per capita than any other first nation in Canada.
There are not only enough jobs for everyone, there are so many jobs being created that there are now members of 13 other tribal communities working for the Osoyoos. The little band contributes $40-million a year to the area economy.
Chief Louie is tough. He is as proud of the fact that his band fires its own people as well as hires them. He has his mottos posted throughout the Reservation. He believes there is no such thing as consensus, that there will always be those who disagree. And, he says, he is milquetoast compared to his own mother when it comes to how today's lazy aboriginal youth, almost exclusively male, should be dealt with.
Rent a plane, she told him, and fly them all to Iraq. Dump'em off and all the ones who make it back are keepers. Right on, Mom.
The message he has brought here to the Chipewyan, Dene and Cree who live around the oil sands is equally direct: 'Get involved, create jobs and meaningful jobs, not just window dressing for the oil companies.'
'The biggest employer,' he says, 'shouldn't be the band office.'
He also says the time has come to get over it. 'No more whining about 100-year-old failed experiments.' 'No foolishly looking to the Queen to protect rights.'
Louie says aboriginals here and along the Mackenzie Valley should not look at any sharing in development as rocking-chair money but as investment opportunity to create sustainable businesses. He wants them to move beyond entry-level jobs to real jobs they earn all the way to the boardrooms. He wants to see business manners develop: showing up on time, working extra hours. The business lunch, he says, should be drive through, and then right back at it.
'You're going to lose your language and culture faster in poverty than you will in economic development', he says to those who say he is ignoring tradition.
Tough talk, at times shocking talk given the audience, but on this day in this community, they took it and, judging by the response, they loved it.
Eighty per cent like what I have to say, Louie says, twenty per cent don't. I always say to the 20 per cent, 'Get over it.' 'Chances are you're never going to see me again and I'm never going to see you again' 'Get some counseling.'
The first step, he says, is all about leadership. He prides himself on being a stay-home chief who looks after the potholes in his own backyard and wastes no time running around fighting 100-year-old battles.
'The biggest challenge will be how you treat your own people.'
'Blaming government? That time is over.'
****************************************
So what do you have to say about Chief Louie's comments.
Are they not some of the same comments and thoughts shared by many others on these issues?
The difference being when spoken by a person(s) not of the same group they are suddenly "hole in the wall racist".
Is Chief Louie a bigot that supports an extreme right agenda, a far right extremist in sheep's clothing....or is he simply telling the truth?
Left Winger
You have always been very vocal on F.N. rights.
For the most part you have tried to educate about misconceptions.
Lately, not so much.
One example.
"Left Winger 1/16/2013 3:32:36 PM Report
Harper personally drew the approval of 46 per cent of those polled for his actions on the aboriginal file
that number just tells the world the number of bigots in Canada that support an extreme right agenda.
don't be so easily fooled by Harper and his gang of thugs - they are far right extremist dressed in sheep's clothing"
**************************************
This was posted the other day and I have read similar critical speeches by Chief Louie.
Chief Clarence Louie, Osoyoos BC speaking in Northern Alberta :
Speaking to a large aboriginal conference and some of the attendees, including a few who hold high office, have straggled in.
'I can't stand people who are late, he says into the microphone. Indian Time doesn't cut it. '
Some giggle, but no one is quite sure how far he is going to go. Just sit back and listen:
'My first rule for success is Show up on time.'
'My No. 2 rule for success is follow Rule No. 1.'
'If your life sucks, it's because you suck.'
'Quit your sniffling.'
'Join the real world. Go to school, or get a job.'
'Get off of welfare. Get off your butt.'
He pauses, seeming to gauge whether he dare, then does.
'People often say to me, How you doin'? Geez I'm working with Indians what do you think?'
Now they are openly laughing ..... applauding. Clarence Louie is everything that was advertised and more.
'Our ancestors worked for a living, he says. So should you.'
He is, fortunately, aboriginal himself. If someone else stood up and said these things - the white columnist standing there with his mouth open, for example - you'd be seen as a racist. Instead, Chief Clarence Louie is seen, increasingly, as one of the most interesting and innovative native leaders in the country even though he avoids national politics.
He has come here to Fort McMurray because the aboriginal community needs, desperately, to start talking about economic development and what all this multibillion-dollar oil madness might mean, for good and for bad.
Clarence Louie is chief and CEO of the Osoyoos Band in British Columbia's South Okanagan. He is 44 years old, though he looks like he would have been an infant when he began his remarkable 20-year-run as chief.. He took a band that had been declared bankrupt and taken over by Indian Affairs and he has turned in into an inspiration.
In 2000, the band set a goal of becoming self-sufficient in five years. They're there.
The Osoyoos, 432 strong, own, among other things, a vineyard, a winery, a golf course and a tourist resort, and they are partners in the Baldy Mountain ski development. They have more businesses per capita than any other first nation in Canada.
There are not only enough jobs for everyone, there are so many jobs being created that there are now members of 13 other tribal communities working for the Osoyoos. The little band contributes $40-million a year to the area economy.
Chief Louie is tough. He is as proud of the fact that his band fires its own people as well as hires them. He has his mottos posted throughout the Reservation. He believes there is no such thing as consensus, that there will always be those who disagree. And, he says, he is milquetoast compared to his own mother when it comes to how today's lazy aboriginal youth, almost exclusively male, should be dealt with.
Rent a plane, she told him, and fly them all to Iraq. Dump'em off and all the ones who make it back are keepers. Right on, Mom.
The message he has brought here to the Chipewyan, Dene and Cree who live around the oil sands is equally direct: 'Get involved, create jobs and meaningful jobs, not just window dressing for the oil companies.'
'The biggest employer,' he says, 'shouldn't be the band office.'
He also says the time has come to get over it. 'No more whining about 100-year-old failed experiments.' 'No foolishly looking to the Queen to protect rights.'
Louie says aboriginals here and along the Mackenzie Valley should not look at any sharing in development as rocking-chair money but as investment opportunity to create sustainable businesses. He wants them to move beyond entry-level jobs to real jobs they earn all the way to the boardrooms. He wants to see business manners develop: showing up on time, working extra hours. The business lunch, he says, should be drive through, and then right back at it.
'You're going to lose your language and culture faster in poverty than you will in economic development', he says to those who say he is ignoring tradition.
Tough talk, at times shocking talk given the audience, but on this day in this community, they took it and, judging by the response, they loved it.
Eighty per cent like what I have to say, Louie says, twenty per cent don't. I always say to the 20 per cent, 'Get over it.' 'Chances are you're never going to see me again and I'm never going to see you again' 'Get some counseling.'
The first step, he says, is all about leadership. He prides himself on being a stay-home chief who looks after the potholes in his own backyard and wastes no time running around fighting 100-year-old battles.
'The biggest challenge will be how you treat your own people.'
'Blaming government? That time is over.'
****************************************
So what do you have to say about Chief Louie's comments.
Are they not some of the same comments and thoughts shared by many others on these issues?
The difference being when spoken by a person(s) not of the same group they are suddenly "hole in the wall racist".
Is Chief Louie a bigot that supports an extreme right agenda, a far right extremist in sheep's clothing....or is he simply telling the truth?
flyhawk25 1/17/2013 8:45:22 AM Report
skipper...I am also amazed at the legislative lack of response to President Obama's actions on gun control.
I wonder how two countries like ours with so much shared language culture and heritage be so different when it comes to guns.
Even most of my friends and relatives in the US are appalled at the gun lobby's ability to control politicians.
skipper...I am also amazed at the legislative lack of response to President Obama's actions on gun control.
I wonder how two countries like ours with so much shared language culture and heritage be so different when it comes to guns.
Even most of my friends and relatives in the US are appalled at the gun lobby's ability to control politicians.
right wing 1/17/2013 9:00:06 AM Report
It's the fault of those like Hubert Humphrey and John F. Kennedy, dedicated members of the NRA.
...and that Eleanor Roosevelt she often packed a concealed handgun for personal protection.
Presidential families didn't have high paid entourages of body guards back then, Eleanor would go into the one knee drop position and mow em down.
It's the fault of those like Hubert Humphrey and John F. Kennedy, dedicated members of the NRA.
...and that Eleanor Roosevelt she often packed a concealed handgun for personal protection.
Presidential families didn't have high paid entourages of body guards back then, Eleanor would go into the one knee drop position and mow em down.
Wisenheimer 1/17/2013 9:04:37 AM Report
What's the weather like in the Sault? Any hiways scheduled for protests?
What's the weather like in the Sault? Any hiways scheduled for protests?
Grace 1/17/2013 9:24:14 AM Report
I don't see why new laws need to be written. If the government would enforce the second ammendment things would be under control.
The key is the first words of the sentence. "A WELL ORGANIZED MALITIA"
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
All gun owners in the U.S. are required to be in a well organized malitia. Do that first.
I don't see why new laws need to be written. If the government would enforce the second ammendment things would be under control.
The key is the first words of the sentence. "A WELL ORGANIZED MALITIA"
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
All gun owners in the U.S. are required to be in a well organized malitia. Do that first.
right wing 1/17/2013 9:57:32 AM Report
Grace
Militia would refer to "the whole people."
"To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." --George Mason, Speech at the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1788"
The Second Amendment reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
The second amendment, it is argued, was written specifically with a federal government in mind.
Thus the words "being necessary to the security of a free State".
This explains why it ends with the words "shall not be infringed." That means that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be restricted in any way by a federal government.
Grace
Militia would refer to "the whole people."
"To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." --George Mason, Speech at the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1788"
The Second Amendment reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
The second amendment, it is argued, was written specifically with a federal government in mind.
Thus the words "being necessary to the security of a free State".
This explains why it ends with the words "shall not be infringed." That means that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be restricted in any way by a federal government.
right wing 1/17/2013 10:00:56 AM Report
...of course automatic weapons with 30 shot clips were not around then.
I do believe that the type of weapons the average citizen is allowed to arm themselves with (obviously) needs some restriction.
...of course automatic weapons with 30 shot clips were not around then.
I do believe that the type of weapons the average citizen is allowed to arm themselves with (obviously) needs some restriction.
flyhawk25 1/17/2013 10:02:17 AM Report
right wing...of course the American founders knew all about automatic weapons with big clips.
Typical neo-con blather.
So ... when are you going to put some money up on Harper versus Trudeau's kid?
Or is that just more posturing?
right wing...of course the American founders knew all about automatic weapons with big clips.
Typical neo-con blather.
So ... when are you going to put some money up on Harper versus Trudeau's kid?
Or is that just more posturing?
right wing 1/17/2013 10:04:34 AM Report
I really do respect Chief Louie.
He is not afraid to tell it like it is.
From The Globe and Mail.
When he was 19, Chief Louie got on a plane to Regina and enrolled in what is now First Nations University of Canada. He then moved to Alberta to spend two years in the native American studies program at the University of Lethbridge. Among other subjects, he studied the reserve system that has existed on both sides of the Canada-U.S. border since the 1870s.
“Most people who get elected can’t explain the Indian Act, they don’t know treaties or land claims,” says Chief Louie, a compulsive reader who keeps a well-stocked library. “I was writing term papers on those things before I got elected.”
I really do respect Chief Louie.
He is not afraid to tell it like it is.
From The Globe and Mail.
When he was 19, Chief Louie got on a plane to Regina and enrolled in what is now First Nations University of Canada. He then moved to Alberta to spend two years in the native American studies program at the University of Lethbridge. Among other subjects, he studied the reserve system that has existed on both sides of the Canada-U.S. border since the 1870s.
“Most people who get elected can’t explain the Indian Act, they don’t know treaties or land claims,” says Chief Louie, a compulsive reader who keeps a well-stocked library. “I was writing term papers on those things before I got elected.”
right wing 1/17/2013 10:09:44 AM Report
Oh, it's the ankle biter, flyhawk...
Go back and read what I posted the day of our discussion regarding betting on our elections.
If you can't figure out what I was saying you know the saying "you're never to old to go back to school."
Seriously, go read it, if your still baffled cut and paste it on here and I'll explain it to you.
Need some help with cutting and pasting???
I'm an expert, just ask.
;)
Oh, it's the ankle biter, flyhawk...
Go back and read what I posted the day of our discussion regarding betting on our elections.
If you can't figure out what I was saying you know the saying "you're never to old to go back to school."
Seriously, go read it, if your still baffled cut and paste it on here and I'll explain it to you.
Need some help with cutting and pasting???
I'm an expert, just ask.
;)
right wing 1/17/2013 10:11:39 AM Report
....ahem, you were saying what about the founding fathers and gun clips, flyhawk.
....ahem, you were saying what about the founding fathers and gun clips, flyhawk.
right wing 1/17/2013 10:18:36 AM Report
Typical neo-con blather?
You mean blather such as this....
"Democratic Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia, a lifelong member of the NRA, has said everything should be on the table to prevent another tragedy like Newtown. But he assured gun owners he would fight for gun rights at the same time. “I would tell all of my friends in NRA, I will work extremely hard and I will guarantee you there will not be an encroachment on your Second Amendment rights,” Mr. Manchin said on ABC’s This Week. The Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees the right to bear arms."
Typical neo-con blather?
You mean blather such as this....
"Democratic Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia, a lifelong member of the NRA, has said everything should be on the table to prevent another tragedy like Newtown. But he assured gun owners he would fight for gun rights at the same time. “I would tell all of my friends in NRA, I will work extremely hard and I will guarantee you there will not be an encroachment on your Second Amendment rights,” Mr. Manchin said on ABC’s This Week. The Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees the right to bear arms."
learningaswego 1/17/2013 10:30:13 AM Report
This reader is no fan of guns or the NRA, and would support any move that would reduce the numbers of guns in any country. Not being a resident of the US, though, one can not really appreciate the entirely different culture/attitude around gun ownership there; so one could say this is speaking out of turn.
However, anyone who thinks that what Obama is proposing will prevent ANY shootings - esp. those multiple disasters that make the national news - well, they are deluded.
From the way I read it - if you can clear away all the emotion involved, what the NRA and others want, is proposals THAT WOULD ACTUALLY WORK to reduce the number of gun deaths.
Like - armed security in schools. Like - exactly what DEMOCRAT prez Bill "I never had sexual relations with that woman" Clinton brought in during his administration.
This reader is no fan of guns or the NRA, and would support any move that would reduce the numbers of guns in any country. Not being a resident of the US, though, one can not really appreciate the entirely different culture/attitude around gun ownership there; so one could say this is speaking out of turn.
However, anyone who thinks that what Obama is proposing will prevent ANY shootings - esp. those multiple disasters that make the national news - well, they are deluded.
From the way I read it - if you can clear away all the emotion involved, what the NRA and others want, is proposals THAT WOULD ACTUALLY WORK to reduce the number of gun deaths.
Like - armed security in schools. Like - exactly what DEMOCRAT prez Bill "I never had sexual relations with that woman" Clinton brought in during his administration.
right wing 1/17/2013 11:01:08 AM Report
Four Wounded in Richmond, BC Shooting.
Wow and we don't even have a second amendment.
How could this happen?
http://tinyurl.com/a6fp3k4
Four Wounded in Richmond, BC Shooting.
Wow and we don't even have a second amendment.
How could this happen?
http://tinyurl.com/a6fp3k4
bounder 1/17/2013 11:04:07 AM Report
REPEAT OFFENDERS BEWARE.
If you drink and drive and have been charged before you will now lose you wheels,and about time.Finaly a excellent decision.
REPEAT OFFENDERS BEWARE.
If you drink and drive and have been charged before you will now lose you wheels,and about time.Finaly a excellent decision.
bounder 1/17/2013 11:09:20 AM Report
RIGHT WING.
Read again the right to bear arms ,what they want to limit is mutiple assault equipment,after all they were meant to assault,you don't need that kind of weapon to hunt or target pratice..The right to bear arms will never waiver.
RIGHT WING.
Read again the right to bear arms ,what they want to limit is mutiple assault equipment,after all they were meant to assault,you don't need that kind of weapon to hunt or target pratice..The right to bear arms will never waiver.
flyhawk25 1/17/2013 11:11:54 AM Report
right wing...I have no interest in digging through the archives looking for more of your silly blather.
I know you are hardwired to avoid straight answers to straight questions. It is in the DNA of all neo-cons.
So just answer the direct question - will you bet a hundred dollars to be given to charity for Harper to defeat Trudeau in a federal election?
Just a simple yes or no will work.
Then I can get back to trimming my toenails.
right wing...I have no interest in digging through the archives looking for more of your silly blather.
I know you are hardwired to avoid straight answers to straight questions. It is in the DNA of all neo-cons.
So just answer the direct question - will you bet a hundred dollars to be given to charity for Harper to defeat Trudeau in a federal election?
Just a simple yes or no will work.
Then I can get back to trimming my toenails.
right wing 1/17/2013 11:26:37 AM Report
The young Trudeau has won the Liberal leadership?
How did I miss that news....
The young Trudeau has won the Liberal leadership?
How did I miss that news....
Grace 1/17/2013 12:01:18 PM Report
Grace
Militia would refer to "the whole people."
RW you are close. See the following.
mi·li·tia
NOUN:
1. An army composed of ordinary citizens rather than professional soldiers.
2. A military force that is not part of a regular army and is subject to call for service in an emergency.
3. The whole body of physically fit civilians eligible by law for military service.
Grace
Militia would refer to "the whole people."
RW you are close. See the following.
mi·li·tia
NOUN:
1. An army composed of ordinary citizens rather than professional soldiers.
2. A military force that is not part of a regular army and is subject to call for service in an emergency.
3. The whole body of physically fit civilians eligible by law for military service.
right wing 1/17/2013 12:03:00 PM Report
2. A military force that is not part of a regular army and is subject to call for service in an emergency.
Sounds like the National Guard to me.
2. A military force that is not part of a regular army and is subject to call for service in an emergency.
Sounds like the National Guard to me.
Brianne 1/17/2013 12:10:57 PM Report
rw, question for you. SInk won't drain, tried 2 bottles of drano clog , didn't work. Went and bought a "snake", nothing clogging the two drains under the sink, opened the main drain under sink..... went 10 feet down with the snake no clog........ I think it's froze somewhere....... would this be a property management issue or city. All other drains work, upstairs and down.
rw, question for you. SInk won't drain, tried 2 bottles of drano clog , didn't work. Went and bought a "snake", nothing clogging the two drains under the sink, opened the main drain under sink..... went 10 feet down with the snake no clog........ I think it's froze somewhere....... would this be a property management issue or city. All other drains work, upstairs and down.
Canna D. Yenn 1/17/2013 12:36:06 PM Report
Last night, I saw on the news, again, a yell from an apparent FN person to “Go home!”
What did she mean? How far in our past is “home”?
If I went to my birth home, I would be back in a FN traditional territory. Even if I went to my great-great grandfather, I’d still be in FN traditional territory, where he likely sat beside Chief Ponekeosh.
When First Nationals tell us that their Traditional Territory encompasses all of Canada, what good will ‘going home’ do? I’d still be here.
It is said that we are all from the same family if we trace our ancestors back far enough.
Welcome home, cousin.
Last night, I saw on the news, again, a yell from an apparent FN person to “Go home!”
What did she mean? How far in our past is “home”?
If I went to my birth home, I would be back in a FN traditional territory. Even if I went to my great-great grandfather, I’d still be in FN traditional territory, where he likely sat beside Chief Ponekeosh.
When First Nationals tell us that their Traditional Territory encompasses all of Canada, what good will ‘going home’ do? I’d still be here.
It is said that we are all from the same family if we trace our ancestors back far enough.
Welcome home, cousin.
itsky123 1/17/2013 12:57:37 PM Report
good day to all
Got up this morning and did my shoveling thing, when in the corner of my eye, I could have swore I seen a brass monkey running by holding on to part of his anatomy. lol
good day to all
Got up this morning and did my shoveling thing, when in the corner of my eye, I could have swore I seen a brass monkey running by holding on to part of his anatomy. lol
Grace 1/17/2013 12:58:39 PM Report
RW,
Exactly.
Own all the guns you want but there is a price to be paid in service that goes along with it.
Seems everyone is missing the meaning and reasons including the terms and conditions under the constitution for the right to bear arms.
RW,
Exactly.
Own all the guns you want but there is a price to be paid in service that goes along with it.
Seems everyone is missing the meaning and reasons including the terms and conditions under the constitution for the right to bear arms.
theprotector 1/17/2013 1:00:11 PM Report
well based on that post Im thinking you have many people in your family that are married, and cousins!
well based on that post Im thinking you have many people in your family that are married, and cousins!
itsky123 1/17/2013 1:06:56 PM Report
When I was 15, I bought my first big rifle at Canadian Tire. It was a 303..still packed in grease in plastic wraper. Didnt need to show a gun permit, and I bought the ammo at the same time..how times have changed.
When I was 15, I bought my first big rifle at Canadian Tire. It was a 303..still packed in grease in plastic wraper. Didnt need to show a gun permit, and I bought the ammo at the same time..how times have changed.
flyhawk25 1/17/2013 1:10:28 PM Report
right wing...just as I thought.
Keep on doing the clip and paste thing. It isn't as substantial as an education but it keeps you busy between runs to check on the coop.
My regards to Colonel Sanders.
right wing...just as I thought.
Keep on doing the clip and paste thing. It isn't as substantial as an education but it keeps you busy between runs to check on the coop.
My regards to Colonel Sanders.
right wing 1/17/2013 1:12:59 PM Report
Brianne
Any issue with plumbing or other mechanical operations of your place are the responsibility of the owner/management when you are renting.
You have already gone above and beyond your obligation.
That is of course unless you poured a bucket of grease down the sink...
;)
Brianne
Any issue with plumbing or other mechanical operations of your place are the responsibility of the owner/management when you are renting.
You have already gone above and beyond your obligation.
That is of course unless you poured a bucket of grease down the sink...
;)
right wing 1/17/2013 1:15:00 PM Report
...whatever fly, I'll ring the bell when you have something of substance to contribute.
...whatever fly, I'll ring the bell when you have something of substance to contribute.
flyhawk25 1/17/2013 1:18:27 PM Report
right wing...nice Pavlovian response. I knew you could be trained.
right wing...nice Pavlovian response. I knew you could be trained.
right wing 1/17/2013 1:37:59 PM Report
Better to be trained then to go home with shit running down your pant leg.
Your mother must have slapped you upside the head a lot.
Better to be trained then to go home with shit running down your pant leg.
Your mother must have slapped you upside the head a lot.
right wing 1/17/2013 1:44:24 PM Report
itsky
Was that a British Enfield model by chance or a modified Lee Enfield?
itsky
Was that a British Enfield model by chance or a modified Lee Enfield?
mallet 1/17/2013 2:32:41 PM Report
R W..
C T C had the military version and K mart had the sporterize version, without all the wood. If memory serves K mart was cheaper, and 20 shells was $5.95. just about all the stores carried rifles and shotguns at that time. Times really have changed, just about every truck had a rifle rack and a gun in them, and nobody really took any notice, hardly anyone locked their doors until they went to bed or were going out for the evening and no-one was home. I doubt very much if many do that today and the police tell you if you find someone in your house to let them take what they want and leave, do not confront them, times really have changed, haven't they...
R W..
C T C had the military version and K mart had the sporterize version, without all the wood. If memory serves K mart was cheaper, and 20 shells was $5.95. just about all the stores carried rifles and shotguns at that time. Times really have changed, just about every truck had a rifle rack and a gun in them, and nobody really took any notice, hardly anyone locked their doors until they went to bed or were going out for the evening and no-one was home. I doubt very much if many do that today and the police tell you if you find someone in your house to let them take what they want and leave, do not confront them, times really have changed, haven't they...
Big Bad Bob 1/17/2013 3:32:10 PM Report
Oh how I wish that certain of my compatriots knew and cared as much about the minute details of things Canadian, such as our obviously-in-need of-re-examination,legal and binding treaties with our First Nations, as they do about certain internal questions of the USA which are none of their goddamned business and about which they are not entitled to do anything in any case whatever the Hell they think.
Oh how I wish that certain of my compatriots knew and cared as much about the minute details of things Canadian, such as our obviously-in-need of-re-examination,legal and binding treaties with our First Nations, as they do about certain internal questions of the USA which are none of their goddamned business and about which they are not entitled to do anything in any case whatever the Hell they think.
itsky123 1/17/2013 3:50:39 PM Report
Right Wing,
I think it was just a regular one..no wood ontop of the barrel..had that lift up yhingy on the sight to shoot distance and a compartment in the stack but..but it was a good gun, hit target all the time. got it to go hunting moose for the first time, but never used it..I and a other fellow had to go in and chase moose out of bush(think it was called doggin)..came out of bush looking like I was in there for months..lol...cloths ripped, etc..the other hunters sat at the road waitin for the moose...
Needles to say , that was the last time I want hunting moose..
Right Wing,
I think it was just a regular one..no wood ontop of the barrel..had that lift up yhingy on the sight to shoot distance and a compartment in the stack but..but it was a good gun, hit target all the time. got it to go hunting moose for the first time, but never used it..I and a other fellow had to go in and chase moose out of bush(think it was called doggin)..came out of bush looking like I was in there for months..lol...cloths ripped, etc..the other hunters sat at the road waitin for the moose...
Needles to say , that was the last time I want hunting moose..
mallet 1/17/2013 4:11:40 PM Report
Big Bad Bob.
I am not going to quote any Chiefs or critize anyone, but you can never please 600 people if they themselves are not all on the same page. Some are enviromentalists and want the N.W.P. act restored, some are Social Activists and want the poverty of some reserves looked after, and some want something else altogether. Now I will agree 100% that there needs to be something done with the Indian Act, what I don't know because some F N's want it renegotiated and others do not. I do know that you do not need 4 or 5 levels of Government looking at the same issue for enviromental reason. As for the poverty issue on some reserves, thats just a money pit without some form of industry to make them self sufficient, which will not happen if the enviromentalists have their way, and so you go round and round, it becomes a circular argument, to which there is no end. So I would ask, as the various treaties did not envisage the world as it is today, what do you suggest is done. Would you agree to turning the clock back to the conditions that existed at the time the treaties were signed??
Big Bad Bob.
I am not going to quote any Chiefs or critize anyone, but you can never please 600 people if they themselves are not all on the same page. Some are enviromentalists and want the N.W.P. act restored, some are Social Activists and want the poverty of some reserves looked after, and some want something else altogether. Now I will agree 100% that there needs to be something done with the Indian Act, what I don't know because some F N's want it renegotiated and others do not. I do know that you do not need 4 or 5 levels of Government looking at the same issue for enviromental reason. As for the poverty issue on some reserves, thats just a money pit without some form of industry to make them self sufficient, which will not happen if the enviromentalists have their way, and so you go round and round, it becomes a circular argument, to which there is no end. So I would ask, as the various treaties did not envisage the world as it is today, what do you suggest is done. Would you agree to turning the clock back to the conditions that existed at the time the treaties were signed??
learningaswego 1/17/2013 4:21:52 PM Report
Great article in today's National Post by Sen Patrick Brazeau, on the real deal behind the Idle No More (it's all about chiefs).
Brazeau knows this from the inside, and certainly knows that of which he speaks.
Great article in today's National Post by Sen Patrick Brazeau, on the real deal behind the Idle No More (it's all about chiefs).
Brazeau knows this from the inside, and certainly knows that of which he speaks.
Wicket 1/17/2013 4:32:59 PM Report
Well Mallet, we now know that the Batchewana First Nations are not environmentalists, they have partnered with the wind farm company and coming to Batchewana Bay sooner rather than later, those damn flashing red lights that can be seen for miles. Will make lovely photos of the sunsets to have the red lights on the hill in the background also.
Did I mention that I really, really, detest those things....destroying the natural landscape
Well Mallet, we now know that the Batchewana First Nations are not environmentalists, they have partnered with the wind farm company and coming to Batchewana Bay sooner rather than later, those damn flashing red lights that can be seen for miles. Will make lovely photos of the sunsets to have the red lights on the hill in the background also.
Did I mention that I really, really, detest those things....destroying the natural landscape
Just Curious 1/17/2013 4:40:56 PM Report
Get used to it,Wicket. I'm in St Thomas at the moment and it don't matter where you drive down here you see the damn things. Went to Wallaceburg a couple of weeks ago and it was like driving thru a forest of them,soon gonna be that way driving to Wawa...
Get used to it,Wicket. I'm in St Thomas at the moment and it don't matter where you drive down here you see the damn things. Went to Wallaceburg a couple of weeks ago and it was like driving thru a forest of them,soon gonna be that way driving to Wawa...
right wing 1/17/2013 5:12:36 PM Report
Wicket
Yes, lets idle no more...it's all about the natural environment...what?...whats that...wind mills....how much?
Sold!
What a bunch of hypocritical self serving crap.
Wicket
Yes, lets idle no more...it's all about the natural environment...what?...whats that...wind mills....how much?
Sold!
What a bunch of hypocritical self serving crap.
right wing 1/17/2013 5:17:06 PM Report
mallet and itsky
My father had hunted with a 303 for years until his boys bought him a Browning 308 lever action gold trigger special.
The 303 now sits in the gun rack out at our hunting camp...memories of Dad.
I always thought the difference between the British Enfield and the Lee Enfield had something to do with the ejection mechanism.
Not real important, the mention just brought back some memories.
mallet and itsky
My father had hunted with a 303 for years until his boys bought him a Browning 308 lever action gold trigger special.
The 303 now sits in the gun rack out at our hunting camp...memories of Dad.
I always thought the difference between the British Enfield and the Lee Enfield had something to do with the ejection mechanism.
Not real important, the mention just brought back some memories.
right wing 1/17/2013 5:19:28 PM Report
Big Bad Bob
Hahahahaha...you never fail to give me a good belly chuckle when you bitch, moan and complain about us discussing U.S. topics.
I picture you gritting your teeth, drool running down your chin while you rock back and forth in your chair chanting..."make them stop, please make them stop"!
Big Bad Bob
Hahahahaha...you never fail to give me a good belly chuckle when you bitch, moan and complain about us discussing U.S. topics.
I picture you gritting your teeth, drool running down your chin while you rock back and forth in your chair chanting..."make them stop, please make them stop"!
mallet 1/17/2013 6:44:37 PM Report
Wicket, J C and R W..
I am not sure, but I think this is just a finalization of the partnership, between the B F N and Blue Earth. The information I have, is that the independent report has said the REA should not go forward at this time, until further public meetings are held. Most of the reasons given are that the public meetings were not in the area affected by the windfarms and that not all the facts regarding the various partners were up front. Apart from the obvious visual impact, the wildlife and various other problems I cannot understand the B F N wanting this when they protest against other people being allowed to desicrate the landscape. And one other reason who is going to be responible for dismantling the damn things after their usefull life, or are they just going to be left like dead trees on the landscape..
Wicket, J C and R W..
I am not sure, but I think this is just a finalization of the partnership, between the B F N and Blue Earth. The information I have, is that the independent report has said the REA should not go forward at this time, until further public meetings are held. Most of the reasons given are that the public meetings were not in the area affected by the windfarms and that not all the facts regarding the various partners were up front. Apart from the obvious visual impact, the wildlife and various other problems I cannot understand the B F N wanting this when they protest against other people being allowed to desicrate the landscape. And one other reason who is going to be responible for dismantling the damn things after their usefull life, or are they just going to be left like dead trees on the landscape..
Canna D. Yenn 1/17/2013 7:09:32 PM Report
Anyone who appreciates FN satire should take a look at 'Ottawapiskat' on Twitter.
Just a suggestion...
Anyone who appreciates FN satire should take a look at 'Ottawapiskat' on Twitter.
Just a suggestion...
right wing 1/17/2013 7:22:02 PM Report
mallet
I am well versed in this matter.
Our hunting camp is near this project.
My brother attended the meetings and ended up educating some of the environmental experts on the area lakes.
They had some of them marked as water sources for the construction projects and my brother informed them to the fact that they are protected due to their fish population.
He informed them that he would pass this on to the MNR.
There were many concerned environmentalist present at the meeting protesting this development among them Gary and Joannie McGuffin.
Nobody from the First Nations was present protesting and concerned about industry having their way with the environment.
These wind mills are not on the shores of Lake Superior.
They are up on the bluffs way back from Montreal Harbour.
They are actually on crown land but the B.F.N. have a documented land claim for the region.
Why did the B.F.N. agree and why do they have a big smile and a handshake in today's picture...simple, $$$$$$.
I don't have a problem with this except for the fact that it is flying directly in the face of their recent serious concerns over Bill C-45 and the environment.
(some are ready to die for it while they eat only fish broth)
Suddenly...lets not idle...lets run to the bank.
;)
mallet
I am well versed in this matter.
Our hunting camp is near this project.
My brother attended the meetings and ended up educating some of the environmental experts on the area lakes.
They had some of them marked as water sources for the construction projects and my brother informed them to the fact that they are protected due to their fish population.
He informed them that he would pass this on to the MNR.
There were many concerned environmentalist present at the meeting protesting this development among them Gary and Joannie McGuffin.
Nobody from the First Nations was present protesting and concerned about industry having their way with the environment.
These wind mills are not on the shores of Lake Superior.
They are up on the bluffs way back from Montreal Harbour.
They are actually on crown land but the B.F.N. have a documented land claim for the region.
Why did the B.F.N. agree and why do they have a big smile and a handshake in today's picture...simple, $$$$$$.
I don't have a problem with this except for the fact that it is flying directly in the face of their recent serious concerns over Bill C-45 and the environment.
(some are ready to die for it while they eat only fish broth)
Suddenly...lets not idle...lets run to the bank.
;)
steelworker 1/17/2013 7:30:53 PM Report
BFN: do like we say,not as we do. They say they can't eat money but boy-howdy the buffet just opened. How many other tribes in Northern Ontario are making deals with mining companies,wind companies and logging companies under the radar all the while giving the rest of Canada the b.s. line that "we are here to save the environment"? Money talks and b.s. walks but some people drive Escalades while their indentured tribe members starve.
BFN: do like we say,not as we do. They say they can't eat money but boy-howdy the buffet just opened. How many other tribes in Northern Ontario are making deals with mining companies,wind companies and logging companies under the radar all the while giving the rest of Canada the b.s. line that "we are here to save the environment"? Money talks and b.s. walks but some people drive Escalades while their indentured tribe members starve.
mallet 1/17/2013 7:48:39 PM Report
Right Wing...
Maybe we should have printed up a load of flyers with the Chief shaking hands with big business to hand out to the protesters... paybacks a bitch eh!!!
Right Wing...
Maybe we should have printed up a load of flyers with the Chief shaking hands with big business to hand out to the protesters... paybacks a bitch eh!!!
Prevost 1/17/2013 8:22:33 PM Report
FYI flyhawk, here is a letter taken verbatim from the local rag where I am currently living in the USA. I removed the heading and the signature.
This goes out to all the gun-grabbing politicians out there. They talk of taking away one of our basic human rights, the right to defense of life, liberty and property.
They say they will pass new laws and all will be well. But how will these laws be enforced? By a person armed with a gun.
So when force is used to enforce unconstitutional (and therefore illegal) laws, force WILL be met with force. People will be injured; People will die on both sides.
Before they send someone’s son, daughter, mother, father, brother, sister or friend into harm’s way that they pick up a gun and attempt to disarm the American people themselves and realize they are attempting to disarm the largest, best-armed and best-trained army in the world.
As a combat veteran, I stand with tens of thousands of people who have taken an oath to protect and defend the Constitution against ALL enemies.
I and my fellow veterans have fought this country’s foreign enemies for years.
Do not assume that we will allow the domestic enemies to freely disarm and enslave the citizens of our country.
We who have the skills and combat experience to make any attempt to disarm our fellow citizens a very costly endeavor, ask our legislators to take great caution in any decision to vote for any gun or magazine ban of any kind.
You who vote for this unconstitutional legislation will put yourselves firmly in the category of a domestic enemy by violating your oath to support, protect and defend the Constitution.
We will fight you to the death if you come into our homes and attempt to take our guns away.
We will show you no mercy as what you are attempting is no less than the prelude to genocide.
My best advice to you is to uphold your oath and learn to live in the real world.
The government can’t and won’t protect any of us. It isn’t its job. That is our job as Americans. Also for future reference, please take a high school-level history class before opening your mouth about something you don’t understand (like the Constitution).
By studying even basic history it is clear even to those with an IQ less than 80 that the Second Amendment is about the private ownership of all weapons.
The Second Amendment exists solely so that if the government becomes too powerful and oversteps its limits, the people can put it in its place.
This should have been done a while ago. However, it may be possible to restore America to the republic it once was without the need for bloodshed.
I pray it doesn’t come to that. But if it does, remember the words of our third president, Thomas Jefferson: “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
You would be the tyrants of which he spoke. Remember, those you rely on to carry out your orders swore an oath to protect and defend this country from all threats, foreign and domestic.
Most will not obey an unlawful order from a domestic enemy. Those who do are fighting for a paycheck.
We on the other hand are fighting for our freedoms and our very lives. Who do you feel would win? We the people are on, as Sun Tzu would put it, “on death ground” — we will fight to the last man. Is that really an enemy you wish to fight?
We won’t provoke you, but you will provoke us. We will not fire until fired upon, but know this: Your laws shall be disobeyed.
God bless the republic!
IMHO, nothing will change because president Barry really has no idea what and who he is dealing with here. If you think this letter is an anomaly, you are wrong. I could get you dozens of similar letters, with some even more radical than this one. I was attached to US armed forces for 4 long years and I have never seen such paranoia, especially from senior officers. The only changes I can see happening is that there will be more firearm owners, therefore more firearms.
FYI flyhawk, here is a letter taken verbatim from the local rag where I am currently living in the USA. I removed the heading and the signature.
This goes out to all the gun-grabbing politicians out there. They talk of taking away one of our basic human rights, the right to defense of life, liberty and property.
They say they will pass new laws and all will be well. But how will these laws be enforced? By a person armed with a gun.
So when force is used to enforce unconstitutional (and therefore illegal) laws, force WILL be met with force. People will be injured; People will die on both sides.
Before they send someone’s son, daughter, mother, father, brother, sister or friend into harm’s way that they pick up a gun and attempt to disarm the American people themselves and realize they are attempting to disarm the largest, best-armed and best-trained army in the world.
As a combat veteran, I stand with tens of thousands of people who have taken an oath to protect and defend the Constitution against ALL enemies.
I and my fellow veterans have fought this country’s foreign enemies for years.
Do not assume that we will allow the domestic enemies to freely disarm and enslave the citizens of our country.
We who have the skills and combat experience to make any attempt to disarm our fellow citizens a very costly endeavor, ask our legislators to take great caution in any decision to vote for any gun or magazine ban of any kind.
You who vote for this unconstitutional legislation will put yourselves firmly in the category of a domestic enemy by violating your oath to support, protect and defend the Constitution.
We will fight you to the death if you come into our homes and attempt to take our guns away.
We will show you no mercy as what you are attempting is no less than the prelude to genocide.
My best advice to you is to uphold your oath and learn to live in the real world.
The government can’t and won’t protect any of us. It isn’t its job. That is our job as Americans. Also for future reference, please take a high school-level history class before opening your mouth about something you don’t understand (like the Constitution).
By studying even basic history it is clear even to those with an IQ less than 80 that the Second Amendment is about the private ownership of all weapons.
The Second Amendment exists solely so that if the government becomes too powerful and oversteps its limits, the people can put it in its place.
This should have been done a while ago. However, it may be possible to restore America to the republic it once was without the need for bloodshed.
I pray it doesn’t come to that. But if it does, remember the words of our third president, Thomas Jefferson: “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
You would be the tyrants of which he spoke. Remember, those you rely on to carry out your orders swore an oath to protect and defend this country from all threats, foreign and domestic.
Most will not obey an unlawful order from a domestic enemy. Those who do are fighting for a paycheck.
We on the other hand are fighting for our freedoms and our very lives. Who do you feel would win? We the people are on, as Sun Tzu would put it, “on death ground” — we will fight to the last man. Is that really an enemy you wish to fight?
We won’t provoke you, but you will provoke us. We will not fire until fired upon, but know this: Your laws shall be disobeyed.
God bless the republic!
IMHO, nothing will change because president Barry really has no idea what and who he is dealing with here. If you think this letter is an anomaly, you are wrong. I could get you dozens of similar letters, with some even more radical than this one. I was attached to US armed forces for 4 long years and I have never seen such paranoia, especially from senior officers. The only changes I can see happening is that there will be more firearm owners, therefore more firearms.
northernmale 1/17/2013 8:25:15 PM Report
How times have changed.. I grew up out in the country, then raised my family there as well. I never locked my house or my garge in 27years. I even had a local run out of gas late at night by my house. He new my garage was oppened he took the gas left a note. It was returnned next day. 5 years ago we moved to town. What a big mistake that was,. Have been broken into twice, have had to put in alarm system.We do not live in a bad area of town. Also forgot to mention when I sold my house and moved I had to change all the locks on doors in house and garage as I had no idea where the keys went.
How times have changed.. I grew up out in the country, then raised my family there as well. I never locked my house or my garge in 27years. I even had a local run out of gas late at night by my house. He new my garage was oppened he took the gas left a note. It was returnned next day. 5 years ago we moved to town. What a big mistake that was,. Have been broken into twice, have had to put in alarm system.We do not live in a bad area of town. Also forgot to mention when I sold my house and moved I had to change all the locks on doors in house and garage as I had no idea where the keys went.
Voiceofreason 1/17/2013 9:40:07 PM Report
Prevost... your whole post captures exactly how I as a Canadian feel and how us as North Americans should feel. People need to read history. It repeats itself.
Prevost... your whole post captures exactly how I as a Canadian feel and how us as North Americans should feel. People need to read history. It repeats itself.
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