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View Room Comments for Wednesday, Dec. 26 2012

Wednesday, December 26, 2012   by: The Soap BoxWelcome to the View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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bounder 12/26/2012 6:20:15 AM Report

Good morning everyone.
bounder 12/26/2012 6:21:22 AM Report

Good morning everyone.
bounder 12/26/2012 6:22:31 AM Report

Kinda like Wawa it sounded so nice I posted it twice.
skipper dave 12/26/2012 7:14:29 AM Report

Good morning sweet Soo!
Bounder, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and suggest that was an attempt at humour.

What if we were all pink but a portion of us folks were chronically impoverished, minimized, marginalized. Coming from physically, sexually abusive environments and due to circumstances, difficult and sometimes overwhelming to change struggle for solutions. Would you expect anger and contempt from your fellow pinks at trying to take little steps to improve your lot? Would you expect blame from your brothers and sisters for the mess your in? I can only conclude the problem must be we are not all pink then?
skipper dave 12/26/2012 7:37:52 AM Report

Alright lets start this day all over again. Good morning sweet Soo!
I've been moved to tears by some folks who have gone out of their way to help during these trying times. Neighbour down the road has shown up with his tractor and blower. Young colleague at work will be coming over to do the fall tune up on our blower. Well wishers dropping by. I've mentioned my sister in law adopting our two dogs into their existing pack of two while my beloved struggled with my illness. Surgery in Sudbury 21 days, complications from Sudbury surgery and hospital stay here. Did I mention she runs her own business and parents two of the nicest kids you'll ever meet. How to measure some people - I've had lots of attention and some of it not warranted. I'm not brave nor courageous. The real heroes are those who extend themselves in time of need. Where in hells name do you think my positive attitude comes from? My role has been rather simple - put one foot in front of the other and don't forget to breath. So my beautiful wife who made you the way you are and why was I so fortunate enough to bump into you? Karma? Don't know but your first spouse has become my very best friend (he doesn't know it) And to all the rest, the body cannot be separated from our spirit and from what I see there is hope for our species, for without hope there is nothing.
nanag 12/26/2012 7:59:43 AM Report

Good Morning Everyone

Skipper Dave

You may be right about all your help to get thru these (major) life hiccups but you do have a special something within you also.Don't sell your self short.

I don't want to go to work today(stamping my food)I want to stay in my jammies allllll day and sip tea and eat leftovers and sugary goodies. (sigh) I guess I better go get dressed.
(pouty face)

nanag 12/26/2012 8:18:56 AM Report


that should say stamping my foot.. told you I want to stay home and eat bahahah
Jimssm 12/26/2012 8:34:26 AM Report

Skipper ...

Your posts are uplifting.

Thankyou for being part of my day.
sparks7 12/26/2012 8:48:51 AM Report

flyhawk25 12/26/2012 8:57:34 AM Report

In the news headlines today 'Jessica Simpson Reported Pregnant by Twitter'.
I did not realize that Twitter was an actual guy.
Talk about a real Christmas miracle.
skipper dave 12/26/2012 9:09:22 AM Report

Wasn't it P.E.T. who had a christmas baby?
skipper dave 12/26/2012 9:12:08 AM Report

Here we go - Algoma health unit is banning all homemade baking from the SAH.
Jimssm 12/26/2012 9:18:59 AM Report

P.E.T. had TWO Christmas babies. Justin and Sacha. (1971 & 1973)

Now Sacha is also jumping into politics, which must be making the right very uncomfortable.
goldie 12/26/2012 9:38:40 AM Report

I am greatful to Sootoday for taking down posters who are prejudiced and view their opinions as behind agreed upon. They are wrong.
Wicket 12/26/2012 10:22:07 AM Report

Woo hoo.. two more sleeps until the big end-of-the-year event. Please join us on Friday; 1:00 p.m., to celebrate our on-line (and several off-line) friendships. Good people, good conversations and good food. E-mail me at

Hope to see some more new faces in addition to those we already know.
Jimssm 12/26/2012 10:49:47 AM Report

As I look around to my hugely expanded Christmas household, I thank God for the blessings he has given me and the new lessons learned through my adopted sons.

At the request of my children, my usual western over indulgence has shrunk to a modest, thoughtful, one gift each.

My usually spoiled biological children have made me very proud, spending Christmas day helping the less fortunate.

My Christmas table tonight has grown from the usual slightly stuffy anglo-saxon sitting for eight (my family) to nearly 30, my boys asking permission to invite various persons who haven't been able to fully enjoy the season.

Phone rings constantly. Someone at the door. Crowd around the kitchen table. Neighbours dropping off plates of food. A frantic search for extra chairs.

Pink Peony 12/26/2012 11:10:18 AM Report

Jimssm, you and your wife have indeed been blessed and your blessings are many. You also bring blessings to many through your unselfishness!! How wonderful of you and your wife to bring many into your home who would otherwise be alone. How wonderful of your children to be do what they did (are doing). Your post brought a smile to my face!! May God continue to bless you and your family because you's definitely are deserving!!
Wicket 12/26/2012 11:10:19 AM Report

Jimssm, how awesome is that, all those new people of diverse cultures - so much to talk about, so little time. What an opportunity - I envy you. Enjoy, this is what the season is all about.
skipper dave 12/26/2012 11:57:01 AM Report

Wicket - Must pass on Friday, back to my day job at SAH. I'll think of you as I snooze on the tanning bed.
Wicket 12/26/2012 12:15:05 PM Report

Sorry you aren't able to join us Skipper Dave, was looking forward to seeing you...
Pink Peony 12/26/2012 12:15:16 PM Report

Jimssm, you are an inspiration. I believe that in the journey of life, when you take your eyes off of yourself and make God number one, you begin to see more clearly, you begin to see that we are ALL part of the picture and by losing that self-focus, we are then in a position to do good for others without any expectation of reward. We do get rewarded though and that doesn't mean that it's a material reward. As you have shown, the reward could be watching the joy in others, watching the loneliness of others subside, even if just for a short period of time and watching the love shine through. If we don't let the darkness overtake the holiday ie. selfishness, drunkenness, self-pity, lies, it truly can be a time of pure joy and inner peace. That inner peace will carry on through our lives if we don't lose sight of what is really important in this life. Thank you so much for this reminder!! With God, all things are possible.
skipper dave 12/26/2012 12:23:47 PM Report

PP give the party song a rest will you - I'm still trying to get my head around the slaughter of twenty 6 & 7 year old kids.
Pink Peony 12/26/2012 12:30:50 PM Report

Skipper, I wasn't talking to you. You will never succeed in trying to shut me up and expressing my opinion (a form of abuse). Just scroll by when you see my name if my posts make you uncomfortable or go against what you do or don't believe.
flyhawk25 12/26/2012 1:15:48 PM Report

Wicket...I must send my regrets as well. The elevator in my building is still broken. That - some might say - matches my own personal elevator not going all the way to the top.
Consequently I must plan my five flights back and forth to the underground parking with care.
It will be repaired/replaced whenever my slum landlord gets a discount deal on something cheap. Like a dumb waiter run by a block and tackle.By then all of us broken seniors will be dead and they will shovel us over the balconies and put a fresh coat of lipstick on this pig and rent our apartments again.
So perhaps in the spring or whenever it is repaired.
Thanks for the invite.
northernmale 12/26/2012 1:20:10 PM Report

Can some one please tell me how stopping transports and train traffic on thursday is not an incovience?, Do people understand transport drivers is what keeps out grocery stores in stock, as well as our country going..How truck drivers do not get an hourly rate but by the kilometer. So as they sit on the side of the road for eight hours its there time that could have gotten them home to spend what little time they do get off with there loved ones.And no I am not a truck driver.
highway1 12/26/2012 1:36:23 PM Report

Traffic will be stopped for 15 minute intervals every hour.
It's not the end of the world.
That was on the 21st.
Because there has been practically no news coverage of C-45, and the media has been silent, the demonstrations are necessary to raise awareness of the government's unfair policies that not only effect FN's but all Canadians. If you disagree with the Harper government's methods and ideology, you should be at the event also.
Brianne 12/26/2012 1:57:27 PM Report

Northernmale....... because, WE, as Canadians, all of us, have the right to free speech and to protest peacefully !
All police agencies were notified, etc.

Everyone should be joining in on the protests, it is for the country, not just First Nations people. Do you want other countries coming in and buying up our resources and destroying them......... the waterways are all tied together, if one river gets tainted, they all get tainted... and so on. Do you want the Chinese companies to destroy that? And if Canada tries to stop them from destroying the land, they have the right to sue Canada !

Wake up !

Justin Trudeau visited Chief Spence today !
Wicket 12/26/2012 2:27:32 PM Report

Have posted under the news article and am also posting here, some insight please:

This is not intended to be a racist comment, so please do not take it that way.

I am just wondering what the tolerance would be if the protests were held on roads leading into and out of Ottawa. Would the RCMP, OPP and local police be out in full force prepared to stop the protestors.

Is this being allowed because we and Sarnia are small towns compared to the Ottawa area? Protesting in front of the Parliament Buildings does not disrupt much of anything.

Does anyone other than the local members of parliament even know that this is happening. Yes, it was on the CBC news the other day, probably most people just said "Where's Sault Ste. Marie, better them than us".

It is the same people in and around the Soo that are being disrupted, not the people that can and should be making a difference.

I just think it would make more of an impact if bigger cities were involved. Where are the First Nations people from those areas? Why are they not protesting?
Jimssm 12/26/2012 2:41:08 PM Report

Thanks to everyone for the kind words.

I am not entirely certain I merit them as without being dragged along kicking and screaming by my wife (and now my children) I would probably be a crabby hermit living in a basement somewhere.

But... the turkey's in the oven. Potatoes, yams and turnip are all peeled and cut. It's amazing how fast it gets done with 5 or 6 working on it. The tables are set and the house is clean. The boys are skypeing with family in Africa. I'm heading out soon to pick up some more guests.

Life is good.

skipper dave 12/26/2012 2:41:40 PM Report

Where's rw when you need him? Fly's broken elevator, surely there's some infraction, injustice that states Fly's means of egress be expeditiously repaired. Seniors can't do five flights of stairs. Jeez the Fly has to stop for a smoke break every landing. The tobacco is killing him. Is this the case of a landlord refusing to pay double time and a half for a stat call out? I'll be pissed if this leads to his demise.
flyhawk25 12/26/2012 3:06:40 PM Report

skipper dave...not nearly as much as I would be.
Today marks the 25th in a row and 30th of 31 with no elevator.
To date we have no 'official' word from the owner - just a poor hard working superintendent who only knows that "they are waiting on a part".
The problem is the company who made them no longer exists and according to the original engineer who did the structural design on the building "it was a piece of crap then and it's just a matter of time before it dies".
Oldie Goldie 12/26/2012 3:55:42 PM Report

Well the Republican -led Congress in the U.S.A. is going to let the Country go back to a Recession---Smart move all you right wingers !--Protests are starting to take place in the homes of the Republican Congressmen in Michigan and could spread all across the country.

The majority Republicans in the Congress will be thrown out next Election if this Fiscal Cliff takes place.

The Democrat-led Senate have already passed a Bill to stop it but the Republican-led Congress will not agree.

Perhaps the Republicans feel that they can hurt Obama by doing this but I say it will backfire on them in my opinion.
Brianne 12/26/2012 3:55:57 PM Report

Fly........ has anyone contacted the fire department about that ?
Mr. Poster 12/26/2012 3:58:05 PM Report

Fly...have all tenants tell the landlord they are deducting a hundred bucks from the may get fast action.
steelworker 12/26/2012 4:03:55 PM Report

So the U.S. is going in the tank and where is The Partier in Chief? Surfing in Hawaii.
nanag 12/26/2012 4:04:59 PM Report

Holy crap Fly are you saying you have been 25 days in a row without a working elevator??? How is that legal??? How the heck are seniors supposed to come and go? What about someone in a wheelchair or with a walker??? That is an outrage! All you political guru's on here must know someone who needs to be informed of this to get some action on fixing this elevator. BUT there is a positive to the trek up and down the stairs.. just think of the buns of steel you will develop!!!
steelworker 12/26/2012 4:45:04 PM Report

Did I hear someone say "...buns of steelworker"?
realitycheck 12/26/2012 4:53:53 PM Report

So the U.S. is going in the tank and where is The Partier in Chief? Surfing in Hawaii.

What would it matter where he is? If he were in Washington he would have only himself to negotiate with as every member of the House and Senate have fled town.
Grump 12/26/2012 5:25:15 PM Report

I find it ironic that is not the Reserves and First Nations who are indeed in dire straights that are causing these blocades. Why are the well off Reserves protesting? I guess I'm missing something here. That said maybe it's just a scam to keep the Chiefs exempt from scrutiny.
Resident 12/26/2012 5:29:22 PM Report

President Obama cut short his vacation and is in Washington (from what I saw on the news). I'm sure the right wing will either say that is false (lefty news) or will ignore it.
Just Curious 12/26/2012 5:45:15 PM Report

Mr poster;Bad advice,the only action they will get that way is an eviction order. Read the landlord tenent act,the rent MUST be paid regardless or you are in violation of your tenancy. You can pay it in trust to an attorney and have it held pending resolution of the problem by the landlord as long as he is notified of it but you have to pay it to someone.The tribunal should have been notified of this by now and they can issue an order but if he can prove he can't get the parts it's all up in the air.
Where I used to be a custodian the elevator was down for replacement for upwards of three months and the landlord let anyone on the upper floors move lower or provided help to take stuff up to upper apartments for seniors. Some landlords just don't care,if you don't like it move,attitude..My last landlord was like that..
Pink Peony 12/26/2012 5:49:20 PM Report

Flyhawk, the City has a Property Standards Bylaw. It includes elevators (part 4). Don Maki is the Chief Building Official Property Standards Officer, 759-5399 or

pdf of the Property Standards By-law for SSM here:
highway1 12/26/2012 6:02:30 PM Report

Grump, it isn't a regional issue, and there are Idle No More demonstrations literally world wide.
Oldie Goldie 12/26/2012 6:17:49 PM Report

Reality check---What do you expect Obama to do ? The Republicans refuse to co-operate with him.

Obama did leave Hawaii early---by the way he was visiting his mother there for Christmas--He is now back in Washington.

The Senators already approved a Plan so why do they have to go back to Washington ?

The Republican-led Congress are the ones who need to co-operate but--in my opinion---they want Obama to fail !

If no plan comes forth from the Congress the American voters will turf the Republican Congressmen in the next election.

How is this going to hurt Obama--He can't run again and he has 3 more years to go.

The Americans will see who is the problem and will react to it next election.

If I were a Republican Congressman I would start co-operating--and quickly.
shakespeare 12/26/2012 6:45:01 PM Report

Well said, OG. I know several wealthy Americans and have met others and they really don't seem to get it. I believe that you are right about the future of the GOPs if they don't make some concessions. I have been talking to many friends and family in the U.K. and Europe during the holiday season and the consensus seems to be that the U.S. is becoming more of a pariah what with its shootings, NRA pronouncements and fiscal cliff ostrich mentality. Interestingly, almost everyone seems to have mentioned that Canada is the country most held up for fiscal responsibility. Whether or nor it's the legacy of Martin for the Libs or Harper's policies (probably not) we seem to be held in high esteem by those I know in the U.K and Germany.

BTW a great day for cross country skiing today. Also saw my youngest grandchild at 18 months ski down the bunny hill at Searchmont (with a little supervision). Its in her genes (and not from this side of the family). She got so excited by us laughing and clapping her that her final two "runs" included her skiing and clapping her hands.
shakespeare 12/26/2012 6:47:57 PM Report

It's (in her genes). Happy now, Spelly?
theprotector 12/26/2012 8:05:52 PM Report

I support first nation rights however this is not the way to educate the public. This does nothing but separates the participants from the non first nation community. It creates hostilities between the two communities. It creates a volitile situation. It takes away from valid concerns it takes away from the cause. It creates enemies and anger from the ones that they need to help in their fight. The leaders of the first nations are wrong in their actions. This is not a playground. Peoples lives and livilihoods are at stake by this action. This group needs to grow up and start educating themselves and the general public before they cause someone to get hurt.
Spellchecker 12/26/2012 8:08:22 PM Report

Sure shakey. That's better.
Spellchecker 12/26/2012 8:09:16 PM Report

Oh oh, surely shakey. That's better.
shakespeare 12/26/2012 8:22:15 PM Report

That's O.K., Spelly. I just wonder when YOUR friend right wing is going to learn how "YOU'RE welcome" is spelled. He makes a good point (every month or so) and then ruins it with his semi-literate ending. We've been teaching him for years, but to no avail. I've kind of given up on Skipper with "then" and "than", but at least he is a thoughtful, liberally-minded person with lots of homespun wisdom ... a kind of local Stuart McLean.
skipper dave 12/26/2012 8:32:17 PM Report

Oh crap what an oversight - Here I've been bitching and whining about Fly's dilemma of no elevator service for the past month and I forgot to pass on seasons greetings to our out of work member of parliament Dave. The legislation has been shut down since October as in there's nobody in there doing what they were elected to do so poor Mr. Orazoonie must be on pogey? Wonder how he is managing to get by? The scuttlebutt was Dalton closed shop to retire and take six months to find a new leader. Absolutely no truth to the rumour that he couldn't keep a lid on the debacle of the power plants so he took the bat, baseball, all the bases and went home leaving his loyal members without a job to report to. You have to admire Dave, even out of work he continues to sing the party song. Anybody but me notice a slight tick in his left eye? This from a guy who has been passed over for promotion twice - What a guy, what loyalty. Hey do you think Dave could help out with the elevator thingy, after all Fly's a retired teacher and all. Do it for the old alma mater Dave. Do something nice for the team.
nanag 12/26/2012 9:00:32 PM Report

As far as this elevator misfortune goes I have a solution...ready????

I say get one of those big trucks with a basket thingy.. (cherry picker)?? park it at Fly's window/balcony and voila... an outdoor elevator (big stupid grin). Hold your applause please, really, it was my pleasure ,really bahahahah
flyhawk25 12/26/2012 9:45:05 PM Report

skipper...don't hold your breath for David O to do anything.
I wrote him six weeks ago about a health care issue and I have not gotten the courtesy of a reply.
As for the issue du jour - I met a nice fellow who has an interesting background in Big Business.
In twenty minutes he outlined a plan based on his experience world-wide dealing with stupid arrogant landlords.
I start the task tomorrow.
And I thought retirement would be boring...
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