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View Room Comments for Thursday, Nov. 8 2012

Thursday, November 08, 2012   by: The View RoomWelcome to the SooToday.com View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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Snobank 11/8/2012 2:37:24 AM Report

G'mornin'...goin back to bed.
jean-paul 11/8/2012 3:54:15 AM Report

Hi quack qack quack quack no quacks later,to busy.
steelworker 11/8/2012 6:30:04 AM Report

With Obama jamming the U.S almost 16 trillion dollars in debt maybe I'll slip across the ditch to gas up and buy a couple of Yankees. They should be going cheap right about now. Just ask Obama.
Grace 11/8/2012 7:03:00 AM Report

An excerpt from Fly's number one best selling book..."How To Win Friends and Influence Others"

"In the afterglow of the vote, as it were, there is a decided absence of neo-con gasbags on here."
Grump 11/8/2012 7:05:11 AM Report

Last evenings post were an interesting, intelligent read, only one comment from a sand box hero. With any luck today's count will remain at one. Have a great day all.
nanag 11/8/2012 7:17:34 AM Report

Good Morning everyone
Have a great day... be well.. wash your hands often.. there is a lot of "catchable" stuff out there
Grace 11/8/2012 7:29:04 AM Report

Nan..I have a grand child in day care..gets rid of one cold..picks up another...
Grace 11/8/2012 7:38:18 AM Report

Hey wait a minute!!! I thought we were supposed to be the 51st State!
Something else not talked about during the election.
Puerto Rico vote first step in making island 51st U.S. state
Referendum passed by 60%
Wonder if it will be actually acted on?
Now that would be exciting.
flyhawk25 11/8/2012 7:47:08 AM Report

Grace...funny you should mention that.
My late wife taught primary grades her whole life and became bulletproof for most of the bugs.
However she'd inevitably bring some of it home and I had never built up the same immunity.
I caught them all.
Have you ever had a second bout of measles as an adult?Not fun.
And let's not forget all the really creepy things like taking round worm medicine.
Yewh.
nanag 11/8/2012 8:11:20 AM Report

Yewh is right

Like I said .. wash hands often and keep your hands away from all your orifices.. hahah.. like eyes.. nose..mouth and ...out of courtesy to others...keep your hands away from those other orifices too bahahah
Grump 11/8/2012 8:18:44 AM Report

I have 3 Grandchldren in London (the mould and milldew capital of North America}. All I had to do was get within 30 feet of them and I caught something. That's when I started taking my shots and haven't had more than a sniffle since. Amen to that.
Spellchecker 11/8/2012 8:20:06 AM Report

http://www.peakprosperity.com/blog/79994/time-focus-return-capital
Grump 11/8/2012 8:20:32 AM Report

Come on nanag what is life without a little risk and lots of fun.
nanag 11/8/2012 8:23:47 AM Report

spoken like a real man :) have good day.. I must go out among the unwell now and hopefully make it back with nothing more than what I leave home with ... gonna hold my breath ALLLLLL day no inhaling germs for me
Grace 11/8/2012 8:58:08 AM Report

Men...whine about feeling like crap...but go see a doctor...nope..
Grump 11/8/2012 9:19:13 AM Report

Come on Grace that isn't Macho and our little egos couldn't handle that. LMAO.
flyhawk25 11/8/2012 9:22:22 AM Report

nanag...no need 'to go out among the unwell now'.
Wait here a bit.
They should be crawling out from under the rocks in their mum's basement, wiping the drool of their chins and on their keyboards momentarily.
Grace 11/8/2012 9:31:22 AM Report

Love that comercial...guy on the bed calling his wife's name very pathetically...call my mom....then with a look of disgust tosses him a bottle of medicine..
Truth in advertising!
Wisenheimer 11/8/2012 9:37:53 AM Report

50% of the U.S. electorate voted to raise taxes on 2%, so they can get more stuff.
Surprise! So fortunate to have a Conservative majority here.
RLE 11/8/2012 9:39:05 AM Report

Grace:

Went out among the unwell and unwashed yesterday and today I'm feeling poorly. My wife is out. Please call my mom! (705-555-5555) I'll let you imagine the whine in my voice lol
Bad Dawg 11/8/2012 9:57:57 AM Report

I have looked in the eyes of the younger generation, there is not much there...... I am not putting my faith in them what-so-ever!! Your future is going to be nothing but legal weed, video games and cell phones. BUT you will find me retired on a lake, off the grid, and a bottle of 'shine.

good kuck with your mess you IDIOTS voted for them.......
GOOD BYE ALL
BAD DAWG OUT!!!
everson 11/8/2012 10:00:36 AM Report

Wisen for now. He hasn't given the environment to create jobs. The job #'s have not changed. Stagnant to say the least. We are paying more and getting less. The deficet is high and the debt has grown. All in 5 years. But I am not a miserable sore loser either.

somecandy4u 11/8/2012 10:17:21 AM Report

Just an observation, but i've noticed right wing hasn't been online since the election. hmmmm.....
Brianne 11/8/2012 10:19:56 AM Report

Pam........ Paaaam........ Paaaaaaam, call my mom !

Ahhh nothing better than a mom, i tell yah !

I miss mine everyday, been gone almost 8 years now....... and still go to reach for the phone to call her and ask her a question . :(


Brianne 11/8/2012 10:22:47 AM Report

somecandy4u......... do you blame him.... poor guy !

Come back rw !
Grump 11/8/2012 11:04:57 AM Report

Well I for one at least give rw partial credit. The half a brain tied behind his back knew better than to take a hundred dollar bet with me. He just got pumped up by Mitt's morons and it got away from him. He is far too bright a guy to stay away long.
Grace 11/8/2012 11:45:16 AM Report

Grump four years from now will be very interesting with both parties fielding new untried candidates.
Wonder if the Republicans will change their outlook and methods to get with the America of the 21 st century.
I still say they need a third party alternative that is in the middle of both. Problem is now you either vote right or left and if those don't fit your views...not at all.
Not too many options.
Wisenheimer 11/8/2012 11:48:25 AM Report

Eversons .. "deficit" .. When you are typing and a red line appears under the word it means it's spelled wrong. Right click on it and the correct spelling appears. You can then enter the correct spelling even if you haven't a clue what you are talking about.
Brianne 11/8/2012 11:52:18 AM Report

One of the "funnies" going around facebook this morning

It shows Obama on the phone with a cheeky grin saying

" So you want to move to Canada because I got re-elected and you hate socialized healthcare, marriage equality, and the separation of church and state.

I've got Canada on the line for you, and they can't stop laughing either."
Wisenheimer 11/8/2012 12:26:07 PM Report

Brianne .. add to that, taxed up the wazoo!
debo 11/8/2012 12:32:55 PM Report

Wisen, it's ironic that you choose to go after Everson's post by way of commenting on his/her spelling. You could work on your grammar usage ... "spelled wrong" ... wrong is an adjective and cannot be used to modify a verb. You might have tried "incorrectly" or "wrongly". Alas, live by the (s)word ... die by the (s)word. :)
bluesslinger 11/8/2012 1:35:09 PM Report

Interesting coincidence how Obummer lost in every state requiring photo ID.
flyhawk25 11/8/2012 1:50:39 PM Report

Hey jerk - his name is President Obama.
Go back to the basement and grow some manners and a gonad.
bluesslinger 11/8/2012 1:54:26 PM Report

woohooo LOL
everson 11/8/2012 1:54:53 PM Report

Wisen get smart why don't you? Many and I mean many have had spelling mistakes on here TODAY but I guess the best of me gets the worst of you, right chump? Grow up buddy because I find you (and not just me on here) a sour puss with no life but money money and lack of insight into what is a full life. Sad but Wisen I am sure you know (or don't ) that you are rather bland and boring entity on here. Go lick your wounds and play elsewhere.
everson 11/8/2012 1:59:21 PM Report

blueslinger his name is Barack Obama. Respect due to the man that was chosen by and for the people.
Go join Wisen in the pity pot.
flyhawk25 11/8/2012 2:09:35 PM Report

Sadly one of the most articulate and thoughtful voices for the neo-cons has disappeared.
We are left with the inarticulate remnants of the anti-Obama group.
Another example of what happens in a void in the swamp - the leeches take over.
And it appears that no matter how often we bash them they just keep emerging from the darkness.
Perhaps Darwin was absolutely correct.
AceOfBass 11/8/2012 2:19:27 PM Report

Barack Hussein Obama the only reason he got re -elected is because of his skin color.
He just happens to be the worst president in History.He will see the USA plunge into another recession because of his bad decisions.
He made a bad decision on Benghazi that cost American lives,then tried to cover it up.
He armed the wrong people in Libya.
Syria he is sitting on the sidelines while
Al Quada is slowly taking over.
When is he going to stop Bush for his problems.Mitt Romney was right the 47% did not vote for him.It was more than he expected like 51%.
The Majority of Americans are Hispanic and Latinos and do not identify with Republicans.They identify with Democrats who have a more socialist agenda.
shakespeare 11/8/2012 2:25:43 PM Report

By way of an allegory: When I was at high school there was a kid who was a bit of a misfit and nobody had much to do with him. Someone noticed one day that he had an unpleasant body odour and it was pointed out to him. Rather than fix the problem, he seemed to wash less and less and, as kids pointed it out to him more, his smell got worse. You see it was the only attention that he ever got. In the end, he smelled so bad and seemed so happy that everyone just stayed away from him... and he drifted back into his own world.
Grump 11/8/2012 2:26:04 PM Report

Fly you are certainly right about the swamp, more and more keep slithering out. Going to have to throw in a few alligators. Anyone who has no respect for others has none for themselves.
Budster 11/8/2012 2:29:04 PM Report

Fly
The only way democracy works is if there is compromise. Sad to say that our neighbours to the south have a house that seems to have unlimited personal finances and little to no social concience. Until they start to work together the economy is doomed because there will be no jobs.
Canada's situation is not too far away from the same out come because of a tyrant who will not compromise with the house which eventually can lead to anarchy, which also leads to distruction.
One of the greatest lessons to be learned in a large family is the art of compromise. Mom and Pop do what they can to oversee the situation but the siblings learn to pick some battles and to let others slide, in spite of parental guidence. One lesson learned is that you will not win all the time. But the world does not end when you lose either.
Grump 11/8/2012 2:34:31 PM Report

Shaky I could live with this crew fading off into themselves or space for that matter. Also just geting a life and not acting like the Tea Party.
flyhawk25 11/8/2012 3:15:55 PM Report

Just read a print media report that the Republicans are in disarray over the loss of the POTUS job and no gains in the house or senate.
I was surprised for a moment - and then it hit me.
Why not?
They watched Bush pull them into how many wars with no exit strategy?
Why would I expect them to have a clear Plan B?
Their arrogance and failure to read 'the signs and portents' authored their own demise.
Now the next battle to get a bipartisan deal on the budget by year's end has been clearly articulated by the president.
The electorate has been educated and the pressure is on GOP speaker Boehner to get his people in line.
If he fails the electorate will put the blame on the GOP and even God and/or Governor Christie won't save them in four years.
All of their focus was on defeating Obama and now they are wandering in the darkness created by the Tea Party.
Time to work together or die alone.
Snobank 11/8/2012 3:16:35 PM Report

I suspect rw will return, at least I hope so. Unlike many of his compatriots he is intelligent and I enjoy his arguments even tho he generally advocates the tired old white man's position. He and fly make good polar opposites to group around. The level of vitriol on this site recently may have forced him to proclamations he is now a little embarrassed about although it's unlikely he will ever admit it.

Similarly, fly has surprised me by being less than gracious in victory although I can see how blobooby's idiotic brayings could drive anyone to distraction.
steelworker 11/8/2012 3:38:10 PM Report

I guess we better watch what we say about Obama Wan Kenobi or the resident Orseholes will call down a fatwa on us. Nice to see Honey-Bo-Bo back in subsidized housing (The White House) as the POS (sorry I mean't POTUS). Carry on cellar dwellers.
Zing 11/8/2012 3:46:47 PM Report

I was surprized that Obama didn't even mention Bill Clinton in his winning speech.

Not sure he would have won without his support.
flyhawk25 11/8/2012 3:50:56 PM Report

Okay stupid.
We get it.
Your soaps are over and mum is at bingo so you get the computer to yourself.
I'll stop calling you stupid stupid when you stop with the stupid name calling.
Now finish your cereal and take a nap you impotent sissy.
flyhawk25 11/8/2012 3:52:26 PM Report

Zing...but weren't you surprised that Dubyuh was kept under wraps by the Republicans?
Wisenheimer 11/8/2012 3:53:14 PM Report

Married women age 32 voted for Romney, single women age 32 voted for Obama. Anyone out there got any insights? Perhaps Debo or Eversons could pipe in.
I'll stand back.
Wisenheimer 11/8/2012 3:57:43 PM Report

Bush was Presidential enough to keep out of it. Clinton can't shut up! Flyhawk struggles likewise.
shakespeare 11/8/2012 3:58:16 PM Report

For those feeling "out of sorts" and a little "droopy" after the U.S. election, the news that a generic and cheap version of Viagra will soon be available should give your .. er .. spirits a rise.
steelworker 11/8/2012 3:59:06 PM Report

Hey Fly: finish your gruel and have the nurse change your nappies. It's getting dark out and time for bed (with dreams of Obama dancing thru your head!!). Smirky face.
Wisenheimer 11/8/2012 3:59:18 PM Report

He'll probably pipe back in with some infantile name calling.
nanag 11/8/2012 4:03:21 PM Report

well I am way past 32 but Pres. O Is a fine looking fella... nice smile.. nice voice. Romney not so much.
bluesslinger 11/8/2012 4:09:41 PM Report

"I'll stop calling you stupid stupid when you stop with the stupid name calling."

Unbelievable.
Oh ya, he's a lefty, makes perfect sense.
BIG BROTHER 11/8/2012 4:10:50 PM Report

Dubya was an embarrassment to the country and the self-respecting GOP clan. Not that his appearance would have hurt Mitt. He self-imploded anyway. But, he would have been hauntingly similar to Mitt and they knew they couldn't have that, a reminder of how bad things could actually be!!

As for Clinton...the best President in a couple of generations.
bluesslinger 11/8/2012 4:11:11 PM Report

Again I ask, why are the lefties so angry?

Bobo WON!

Cheer up.
learningaswego 11/8/2012 4:16:11 PM Report

Yah, who else but the great Bill Clinton, could stare directly out at the American people, with cameras right on his face, and say:

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

Now there's a leader to make you proud; one who can without as much as a flinch or a blink, LIE directly to the people.
BIG BROTHER 11/8/2012 4:17:19 PM Report

Yup...Mission Accomplished. Do those words ring any bells. Now, they just so happen to truly mean something.
BIG BROTHER 11/8/2012 4:19:22 PM Report

Dubya...or have you conveniently forgotten weapons of mass destruction!!

Clinton stained a dress; Dubya killed 100's of thousands of innocent people!
Snobank 11/8/2012 4:19:23 PM Report

To the BSlinger and his gang who couldn't shoot straight...you lost, you are fading into history, you sound really desperate...when your ass was handed to you you were supposed to ride it out of town. Since you haven't left town yet you must still be spinning in circles from Tuesday. Head south, keep going...when you get there keep going, eventually you'll be heading north again and you'll catch up with yourself. Slow down or you'll stick your head right up you ... oh, wait, you're still riding it aren't you.

Spelly, rw, scrape these guys off your boots and proceed as normal around here.
BIG BROTHER 11/8/2012 4:19:23 PM Report

Dubya...or have you conveniently forgotten weapons of mass destruction!!

Clinton stained a dress; Dubya killed 100's of thousands of innocent people!
bluesslinger 11/8/2012 4:20:34 PM Report

"You wouldn't want a president who would lie to you." - Bill Clinton
BIG BROTHER 11/8/2012 4:21:51 PM Report

Since when should anyone have to stare into a camera and admit that crap anyway. He hurt his wife and child. No one died as a result of his lie!!

Dubya, on the other hand,....
BIG BROTHER 11/8/2012 4:24:44 PM Report

Pathetic bunch. Perfect Tea Baggers.

Actually, I heard the leader of the tea party dumping all over Romney for not being facist enough!! GOP implosion!!
realitycheck 11/8/2012 4:28:32 PM Report

"Interesting coincidence how Obummer lost in every state requiring photo ID."

BSer:
More than interesting, it is disgusting. This was basically designed to cut off those whose income doesn't put them into a place where they have photo ID, such as not being able to afford a vehicle so they don't have a driver's licence. It was a good try but it didn't work.

As to your claim about the lefties being angry, I think flyhawk is the only one who seems to be that way. On your end you have yourself, Wisen, Learningaswego, Ace, etc., continuing to snipe. The election is over. Why not get off it for another three years, until the next campaign starts. It will save a lot of you a lot of frustration. Canadians talk a lot about the lack of knowledge Americans have about our country. Any American reading this response column probably feels the same way about us.

BIG BROTHER 11/8/2012 4:30:28 PM Report

Yah, who else but the great Bill Clinton, could stare directly out at the American people, with cameras right on his face, and say:

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman."


Who were the scumbags expecting a man to answer such a question anyway.
cathyh 11/8/2012 4:48:44 PM Report

Please, please, the party's over it's time to call it a day. There are far more pressing Canadian problems to talk about ie: The Ashley Smith inquiry, the secret trade agreement signed by Harper w/China, the closing down of the Ontario Northland railway, just to name a few. Obama is back in the white house, Romney has gone back to his house w/his tail behind his you know what. A loser is a loser, lets just leave it at that.
nanag 11/8/2012 5:04:17 PM Report

Do we need topic suggestions?

how about uhmmmmm whether

should I cook, go without supper, wait for a dinner invitation? invite someone to join me?

should I knit the socks I'm supposed to be making OR should I work on the table I am making we could discuss patterns

should I take a nap before football game comes on? or stay awake and do something productive?

should I pretend I understand what all the anger with some people on here is about?

we could discuss bowel movements and how necessary/beneficial that is to our well being

or we could ??? hmmmmm gee I've already run out of ideas bahahahah


bluesslinger 11/8/2012 5:35:57 PM Report

"Who were the scumbags expecting a man to answer such a question anyway.?

The public.
bluesslinger 11/8/2012 5:44:07 PM Report

realitycheck, you post what you want and I'll post what I want.

You're like the other self important and entirely irrelevant lefties in here, but less rabid. If someone disagrees with you, call them names and try to shut them down.

Do you realize how stupid and pathetically childish that is?

Read your pals' posts - pathetic!
Laughable.

If my posts bother you, don't read them. it's only fair, because I usually don't read yours.
statusquo 11/8/2012 6:02:05 PM Report

My, my blueboy,

Slow down and relax and try to wipe that little something off the corner of your mouth. I think it might be froth.
Zing 11/8/2012 6:12:30 PM Report

Fly

Yeah, where was "W"?
Krusto 11/8/2012 6:14:53 PM Report

Interesting read about Elliot Lake Mall

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/premier-set-back-decision-quit-elliot-lake-rescue-093335086.html
debo 11/8/2012 6:21:18 PM Report

1:35 PM

"Interesting coincidence how O____ lost in every state requiring photo ID".

You feel you've made a really good point there BS'er??
(Don't worry ... if you comb your hair the RIGHT way ... nobody will notice).
debo 11/8/2012 6:26:27 PM Report

BS'er, don't jettison that "Bye bye Bobo" tag line. Remember, only four more years for you to get SOMETHING correct (finally).
Grace 11/8/2012 6:29:26 PM Report

cathyh...When you posted the suggestions for topics I understand why...but at the same time you egg on the tooic you wish to deviate from by posting this...Romney has gone back to his house w/his tail behind his you know what. A loser is a loser, lets just leave it at that.

You see poking just make others poke back..
Romney lost the election.Tail between his legs not likely. I'd say the percentage of the country that vited for him was a sizable number and relitivly speaking not all that far apart from Mr. Obama. It would concern me as president to only win the popular vote on such a slim margin and not look at the victory as a mandate reflecting a job well done but 1/2 the voters did not want him. Can he improve this time round. Hopefully. Will the Republicans in the House change..hopefully.
Otherwise four more years of gridlock!
BIG BROTHER 11/8/2012 6:43:04 PM Report

Good read. A nice breakdown on how Romney's campaign broke down. Logical analysis. Tale definitely between legs Grace. The GOP could have run another Dubya and they would have garnered the same number of votes. The Kool-Aid is that powerful.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57547239/adviser-romney-shellshocked-by-loss/?pageNum=2&tag=page

statusquo 11/8/2012 6:49:08 PM Report

nanag 11/8/2012 5:04:17 PM Report

"Do we need topic suggestions?"

Bach's Goldberg Variations ?
Wicket 11/8/2012 6:55:02 PM Report

Well, without getting into graphic detail, Clinton did not have a sexual relationship with 'that woman'. She had one with him and I would not categorize a one-night stand as a relationship.....lol
So, in reality, he was telling the truth.
Grump 11/8/2012 7:07:14 PM Report

The GOP will either bend or no matter how good or how bad Obama does during the next four years they will go down large. The truth is out now so it's co-operate or die. That said I can understand Fly's anger. He has been trying to communicate with a field of Mitt's mushrooms.
Grump 11/8/2012 7:09:33 PM Report

Wicket you are right. As Barbara Bush said " show me the man that is going to turn down a bj".
nanag 11/8/2012 7:16:58 PM Report

Barbara Bush said that??? well well.. would not have thought a gentle southern lady would say such a thing
flyhawk25 11/8/2012 7:26:42 PM Report

I always wonder how long it will take for a certain element to make a reference to sex when Clinton's name is mentioned.
The man was POTUS for 8 years and some would define him by one stupid moment and the following lie?
My goodness.
We get it.
But to keep harping on that is just so dumb that it ruins any credibility his critics might have.
Can you imagine if it happened to our current PM?
The majority of the good ol' boys would privately give him an 'atta boy' and the rest of us would shake our heads in disbelief because he is...let's just say not a sex magnet. Any woman with a fully developed brain would be embarrassed.
mallet 11/8/2012 7:32:09 PM Report

Grump...

Did you notice that little item regarding the most prosperous nations??
Seems the US of A has dropped out of the top ten, however Canada is still there.. Do you think this is because of socialist leanings or not, or are the lot you would like to see elsewhere, doing a fair job of keeping us up there?? Not that I do not already know your answer to that, but a little dig now and then just to let you know which side of that line I am on!!
flyhawk25 11/8/2012 7:32:21 PM Report

Actually I thought Mrs. Bush said something more like..."I raised these boys and have been married a long time.It is my belief that a man will forget birthdays, anniversaries and the car keys.But I doubt any of them have forgotten a b.j.".
I cannot speak for the rest of the men but I believe Miss Barbara to be correct.
Grace 11/8/2012 7:34:56 PM Report

BB..If Romney had won and Obama lost by the same numbers I firstly would not be behaving with what I would consider unsportsman like conduct.
You act as if you won something personally..but face it you didn't.
We are all just spectators in the sport that is American politics..
I myself enjoyed the banter between posters..and congratulate all excellent game.

To insult or degrade the other players is and I feel a distasteful practice.
Thanks for playing..time to reset the board..what's next?
Grump 11/8/2012 7:48:22 PM Report

Time to tune back in on our own neo-con problem. The Harper government say they are cutting back on spending and they are. For jobs, seniors, employment insurance etc. This doesn't make sense when this year they have spent 55 plus million on their branding "Canada's Economic Action Plan". Would all you Conservative supporter please explain how this is in the interest of all of us who are Canadians? or just more self praise for a Prime Minister who now has the lowest approval rating in decades.
BIG BROTHER 11/8/2012 7:51:40 PM Report

Grace,
First you give cathyh advice about how she should not kick people or she will get reactions not wanted. Then you proceed to tell her your opinion about how Obama only won by X amount. And no, 'his tail is not between his legs'. I should read soo today blog rules...the one where Grace is to be the by-default moderator. The only one with a voice of reason.

If you are going to give miss congeniality speeches to anyone Grace, you should have a chat with your colleagues, steely and b'ser; wiswen, et. al. Once you've controlled their BS, others may follow suit.
Grump 11/8/2012 7:53:07 PM Report

Grace the point is Romney didn't win and I don't recall seeing any Romney bashing on here as we are getting Obama bashing from the low lifes that you are defending. Lets keep the game straight, you know apples to apples, but better still lets knock it off and get on with life.
flyhawk25 11/8/2012 8:01:55 PM Report

And to put a more personal element to it - I am missing my man rw.
I assume and hope that he is well.
In his absence I find myself ranting at shall I say the less reasoned anti-Obama crowd.
So from a personal selfish point of view - please come back and counsel me on how not to over-react to your acolytes.
I'm almost at a point where I'll waive payment on the bet.

Nah.
Whew. That was close.
BIG BROTHER 11/8/2012 8:06:25 PM Report

fly,
He wouldn't want you to do that. He is a hard head; follows the wrong political parties; screams too much and is jealous of SQ's relationship with Darlene and Bluesy. But, he is an honorable man and would not have it any other way but to pay his due!
Grace 11/8/2012 8:12:55 PM Report

Guy's...if you stop..they'll at first try to annoy you..hoping for a response..giggling with glee they got under your skins..just don't bite!
Think how frustrating it will be for them.

Ken_W 11/8/2012 8:23:22 PM Report

Republican's aren't dead and any talk of it is nonsense. It just isn't their time. They'll be back.
nanag 11/8/2012 8:24:48 PM Report

Does anybody actually know RW.. has anybody spoken to him? He can't be just reading the posts and saying nothing... that would take a lot of will power.( not that I question the guys intestinal fortitude)
mallet 11/8/2012 8:25:10 PM Report

Grump..

Explain to me who would not advertise what they are trying to do, next what have they cut back on Seniors, I hadn't noticed any change in my cheques to date. I have not heard that E I cheques have been reduced from what was being paid. Now if you are saying that people will have to wait an extra 2 years to collect, yes, but it does not take effect tomorrow it is being phased in over a number of years, and is being done in a lot of other countries as lots of folks are A. living longer and B. wanting to work longer too. I disagree with that idea as it has the effect of delaying young people a job. However, and here you may agree not a whole lot of young people want to get their hands dirty doing the jobs that both you and I did as entrants into the various trades. I am not ashamed to admit that I have drawn E I when laid off from the steel company, but because I have trade tickets I was not out of work for long, and I was willing to go where the jobs were available, not too many want to do that with a wife and kids at home, but that is a personal choice.
Grump 11/8/2012 8:45:41 PM Report

Mallet you missed the point maybe on purpose. He is cutting back on everything here. Ok the world economy is bad. That said he is running up a huge debt doing what? Who in the hell needs to hear this crap everyday at 55 plus million" Who needs two limos flown over to India. The country is being buried in debt, sold out to China and He is whizzing millions away on ego builders. I thought Mulroney was over the top but he had nothing on this one.
Bobby Nerves 11/8/2012 8:52:49 PM Report

The republican party lost the elections as soon as they suppressed Bobby Jindal and Christ Christie, as the real formula.

Bobby Jindal was the candidate to beat Obama, even before McCain lost the elections.

If you really think the republicans will resurface... don't hold your breath. And if they do, it will not be in the way you and I believe it should. There are a whole new generation of political values relegated for the ambitions of people like Gingrich, Palin, and the like.

If republicans are not prepared to change the essence of their policies, and are not ready to take distance, publicly and clearly, from the tear party, they will disappear.

The reduction of the anticipated voting time and the robocalls in Florida are part of the political resolutions that the republicans should avoid and of course, separate from the party all those responsible of such actions.

For those that believe the democrats are abusing the freedom of lack of identification, in my opinion they are wrong, it was a very close election with an army of legal teams ready to go all the way to fight the results, and by the contrary, the republican governor of Florida intended to help his own party eliminating the voting on saturday and sunday (voting in advance for 8 days instead of 15 as it always before) for those blue collar democrats; and the robocalls telling people that they could vote till one day after the elections... those are clearly politically motivated dirty tricks.
realitycheck 11/8/2012 8:56:35 PM Report

"If my posts bother you, don't read them. it's only fair, because I usually don't read yours."

BSer:
Yet you always answer them.
mallet 11/8/2012 9:05:20 PM Report

Grump...

Okay. You say he is whizzing away money, you did not approve of the stimulus package that racked up billions? what was the opposition doing at that time? spend more spend more if memory serves me, so he did, now he is just whizzing away money.. As for flying out two armoured cars, Umm, in his position, I do not think I would want to be riding round in a "tata" in a country that is not seriously terrorist free. Now did we not have this conversation a while back about building new or renovating, so how much would be saved by refitting the ships that are to be replaced?? How many man hours does it take to build new, and dont forget those crappy submarines we bought from the limeys, not one has done a full tour yet as far as I know. As for the Aircraft, I would much rather have our own, designed and manufactured here in Canada, rather than buy from the USA, but I know the costs of developing one of our own and the same would probably happen as what happened to the Arrow, the next government would trash it. Now as for the 55 million on avertising, didn't another party do this once??? not that it is right but I don't know the cost ...
Bobby Nerves 11/8/2012 9:14:27 PM Report

In 2016, the Democrats will have Hillary Clinton as the nominated candidate.

The repulbicans will have to nominate one of the following, if they would like to be in the list:

Bobby Jindal, Chris Christie, Mitch Daniels, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Susana Martinez, Brian Sandoval, Jon Huntsman, John Kasich, Scott Walker, and even Paul Ryan.

Republicans will resist to modify their view on immigration and of course, they will only "tolerate" and hispanic, but I don't think I'll leave long enough to see the republicans voting for a hispanic, but as long as they resist, they will be extinct as we know the republicans today.

Sooner than later, the USA will be relegated to a second line in the world, a new world in which the USA will not be able to engage others for the game of war.

All the emergent markets/economies are not interested in power in the way USA see it and not even China represents a military risk for the world and of course in a much lesser degree, Iran.

If republicans refuse to treat people with respect and behave themselves, they better be prepared for a rude awakening.


godosports 11/8/2012 9:54:53 PM Report

Fortunately Canada has Stephen Harper to help Canada get through the next four years of Obama. It would have been nice to see Canada and the US become economic successes with Romney and Harper. Now Harper has a much tougher job keeping Canada an economic success while Obama further drags the US into an economic nightmare.
flyhawk25 11/8/2012 10:01:30 PM Report

Holy cow.
Another one...
mallet 11/8/2012 10:05:47 PM Report

Bobby N..

I will agree with you regarding the people running for the presidents job. I do not think many of us old folk will be around then,however I will be honest I never expected a "black" man would get that job in my lifetime, so that could happen sooner than you think. Now as for Military, I think that sooner or later the Chinese will have a go, otherwise why would you need a standing army of over 2 million men? and there are other countries approaching the same number that the U S A has under arms. I think that Hillary will stand a good chance, but by then she will be a little long in the tooth, prehaps they could get someone from Playboy to run, now that would be a landslide, even the old white GOP would vote for her...
debo 11/8/2012 10:11:23 PM Report

@ Ken_W

I agree with your statement as regards the Repubs not being dead. I think however that you could specify to some degree who/what a resurgent GOP might represent.

I don't believe a Repub Party that tries to control or define the health choices available to women can be significantly resurgent.

A Repub Party that champions the cause of millionaires and billionaires isn't gonna cut it either.

I could go on ... but for the sake of brevity I'll just add ... that a GOP that appears to be beholden to the most rabid elements of the "Tea Party" isn't going to do well with the emerging American voting population.

If, on the other hand, the GOP frees itself from the apparent overbearing influence of these groups and returns to a more moderate but still right-of-centre stance then it will happen.

Additionally the Dems, or at least the extreme left-wing of the Democratic Party may over-play its hand and provide an easier route back for the GOP.

Your views on their way back may differ Ken_W. Do you wish to offer them?
All Is Well 11/8/2012 10:24:39 PM Report

Godosports, The Harper government has put all their eggs into the price of a barrel of oil and has totally forgotten about manufacturing. The economy may raise but there are no jobs with it. No employers hires someone unless they have to. Geez, certainly is funny now that oil has dropped $10/barrel to see Flaherty talking about a slowdown in the economy.
godosports 11/8/2012 10:30:30 PM Report

DEBO

You are correct that the extreme left wing (OBAMA) of the Democratic party will over-play their hand, a very slight majority, making it easy for the good guys to get back in.


debo 11/8/2012 10:40:02 PM Report

godosports

It's possible ... but I don't see you addressing what the Repubs are going to do. Hoping the other side self-destructs as your only strategy is kinda "pie in the sky".
godosports 11/8/2012 10:58:33 PM Report

DEBO,

Somehow OBAMA and the media kept the attention off the economy and the GOP could not keep it a priority.
The only hope the US has is the House of Reps that can keep OBAMA`s agenda in check without harming the economy to much.
Everything Romney was selling was far superior to the status quo (going to regret that phrase)
The other problem is there are to many single issue voters. Apparently only 49.5% looked at the big picture this election.
shakespeare 11/8/2012 10:59:59 PM Report

godosports: I should point out that the "extreme" views of Obama fall into the centre to right views of most civilized countries. Have you any idea what extreme left is? As I pointed out the other day, the U.S. is one of the very few countries in the world that doesn't have paid maternity leave. Do your homework!
sweetc 11/8/2012 11:34:18 PM Report

Give it up already!!!! the U.S. Election is over... get it... over.... and you couldn't do anything about the outcome anyway.... it is over... done... another 4 years of Obama. don't bitch whine and moan. it is not yours to bitch whine and moan about. unless you are a u.s. citizen who voted and are posting on here.
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