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Spellchecker 10/31/2012 6:57:23 AM Report
Right wing, let me help you out here with Oldie, even though I realize it is a grave error to jump onto his carousel.
Oldie, Romney and right wing are correct in saying that government does not create jobs, productive ones that is. They can only create jobs that rob the money of the productive people and take their incentive to produce away.
Government can, however, create conditions where the productive people find it impossible to operate, like the government that you seem so enamoured with presently.
Government can also theoretically remove those adverse conditions, as Romney would like to do, although once there they can be very difficult to get rid of.
Right wing, let me help you out here with Oldie, even though I realize it is a grave error to jump onto his carousel.
Oldie, Romney and right wing are correct in saying that government does not create jobs, productive ones that is. They can only create jobs that rob the money of the productive people and take their incentive to produce away.
Government can, however, create conditions where the productive people find it impossible to operate, like the government that you seem so enamoured with presently.
Government can also theoretically remove those adverse conditions, as Romney would like to do, although once there they can be very difficult to get rid of.
Grace 10/31/2012 7:04:34 AM Report
Good post Spelly!
Here is a real shocker..the destruction of an urban myth..
That Settles It: Yoko Ono Did Not Break Up the Beatles
Read more: http://entertainment.time.com/2012/10/30/that-settles-it-yoko-ono-did-not-break-up-beatles/#ixzz2AsDQTnOv
Ringo did it!
Good post Spelly!
Here is a real shocker..the destruction of an urban myth..
That Settles It: Yoko Ono Did Not Break Up the Beatles
Read more: http://entertainment.time.com/2012/10/30/that-settles-it-yoko-ono-did-not-break-up-beatles/#ixzz2AsDQTnOv
Ringo did it!
Jimssm 10/31/2012 7:18:20 AM Report
Spelly...
Romney says "Government doesn't create jobs"
Of course it does.
Add to the defence budget (as Romney wants to do) and see what happens.
Spelly...
Romney says "Government doesn't create jobs"
Of course it does.
Add to the defence budget (as Romney wants to do) and see what happens.
Grace 10/31/2012 7:34:48 AM Report
Now that the hurricane has wreaked a path of distruction through the most populated parts of the U.S... FIMA has been mobalized. I've been reading the posts on CNN form the Obie fan club calling out that Romney is finished..Obie landslide.
Funny world view..the One is only following proceedures layed out..they act as if he is out there parting the sea's. Totally skipping over the fact that the One is currently president and has the authority under FEMA to mobilize said agency. He is not directing the efforts.
What can Romney do. Nothing. He has however working with others to organize relief efforts at the grass roots level.
This hurricane really took the wind out of the election.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Emergency_Management_Agency
Now that the hurricane has wreaked a path of distruction through the most populated parts of the U.S... FIMA has been mobalized. I've been reading the posts on CNN form the Obie fan club calling out that Romney is finished..Obie landslide.
Funny world view..the One is only following proceedures layed out..they act as if he is out there parting the sea's. Totally skipping over the fact that the One is currently president and has the authority under FEMA to mobilize said agency. He is not directing the efforts.
What can Romney do. Nothing. He has however working with others to organize relief efforts at the grass roots level.
This hurricane really took the wind out of the election.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Emergency_Management_Agency
statusquo 10/31/2012 7:43:52 AM Report
Spelly,
So in essence you are saying for governments to stay out of business and let corporations do what they do best?
Remove all regulations and safeguards and let the so-called "free" market economy do it's thing?
Isn't that exactly what happened after Reagan took over? A false boom in the economy, a rise that could not be sustained and sure enough it hasn't been able to sustain itself as we are clearly witnessing today, coupled with a ballooning of the national debt (look at the charts of government spending under Reagan's reign).
Bush senior actually turned the trend around somewhat and even coined the phrase "voodoo economics", disparaging his predecessors record.
Clinton kept it on an even keel somewhat but when Bush junior took the reigns it really fell apart.
And now you side with the folks that want to turf the current president with someone that will undoubtedly exacerbate the current fiscal disaster .
We here in Canada are witnessing the same kind of mindset. Harper can do no wrong,(they say) but the writing is on the wall.
His government is selling Canada out to big foreign controlled business for short term financial gains and our kids will pay for it...long after he is gone.
Spelly,
So in essence you are saying for governments to stay out of business and let corporations do what they do best?
Remove all regulations and safeguards and let the so-called "free" market economy do it's thing?
Isn't that exactly what happened after Reagan took over? A false boom in the economy, a rise that could not be sustained and sure enough it hasn't been able to sustain itself as we are clearly witnessing today, coupled with a ballooning of the national debt (look at the charts of government spending under Reagan's reign).
Bush senior actually turned the trend around somewhat and even coined the phrase "voodoo economics", disparaging his predecessors record.
Clinton kept it on an even keel somewhat but when Bush junior took the reigns it really fell apart.
And now you side with the folks that want to turf the current president with someone that will undoubtedly exacerbate the current fiscal disaster .
We here in Canada are witnessing the same kind of mindset. Harper can do no wrong,(they say) but the writing is on the wall.
His government is selling Canada out to big foreign controlled business for short term financial gains and our kids will pay for it...long after he is gone.
Grump 10/31/2012 8:38:32 AM Report
Grace I don't want to burst you rose coloured bubble that the rules are all laid out. If that were the case I guess GW couldn't read as he sure as hell took forever to respond to Katrina.
Grace I don't want to burst you rose coloured bubble that the rules are all laid out. If that were the case I guess GW couldn't read as he sure as hell took forever to respond to Katrina.
Jimssm 10/31/2012 8:47:53 AM Report
Grace:
It was just bad timing on Romney's part.
He just recently announced that he wanted to downsize or dismantle FEMA and pass the responsibility down to the individual States.
That makes it very awkward for him at the moment and Obama gets to act Presidential.
Not that it is going to give Obama an advantage. Give it a couple days and the right will begin complaining that aid is not getting to the people fast enough.
Funny how no one likes big government until they need it.
Grace:
It was just bad timing on Romney's part.
He just recently announced that he wanted to downsize or dismantle FEMA and pass the responsibility down to the individual States.
That makes it very awkward for him at the moment and Obama gets to act Presidential.
Not that it is going to give Obama an advantage. Give it a couple days and the right will begin complaining that aid is not getting to the people fast enough.
Funny how no one likes big government until they need it.
right wing 10/31/2012 8:48:08 AM Report
statusquo
At times it is hard to believe you are self employed.
You always want to swing the pendulum completely the other way.
Of course all regulations cannot be removed, that is just a dumb blanket statement and you know it.
In your rant on ballooning deficits and removal of government regulations you left out the housing fiasco and the huge role that the Democrats played in that with Fannie May and Freddie Mac, you know everybody has the "right" to own their own home.
Anyways, ancient history.....
Have you ever attended a seminar by the Independent Canadian Council for Small Business or any one of the many organizations that help Canadian small business.
One of the main topics is always addressing the mountains of "red tape" imposed on small business by governments over the decades, some more than others.
The ever rising costs of hiring/training employees that independent small business endures.
The taxes paid and the costs endured by small business for collecting and submitting taxes.
Just a few areas that could be streamlined to allow small business to flourish.
Small business is the backbone of any economy, a basic recognized fact.
Yet, as Obama is currently doing and will continue to, small business gets crushed each and every time there are economic hard times
If you listen to Romney, stimulating small business for growth, hiring more employees and new start ups is a big part of his plan and it makes complete sense.
This is a guy with the experience and know how to make it happen.
"exacerbate the current fiscal disaster"
You make a statement like that but give Obama, the biggest spender as president of all time, a pass backed by nothing but tired worn out excuses.
You can ramble about past presidents till the cows come home stats but Obama has had his four years and bottom line is his record sucks.
statusquo
At times it is hard to believe you are self employed.
You always want to swing the pendulum completely the other way.
Of course all regulations cannot be removed, that is just a dumb blanket statement and you know it.
In your rant on ballooning deficits and removal of government regulations you left out the housing fiasco and the huge role that the Democrats played in that with Fannie May and Freddie Mac, you know everybody has the "right" to own their own home.
Anyways, ancient history.....
Have you ever attended a seminar by the Independent Canadian Council for Small Business or any one of the many organizations that help Canadian small business.
One of the main topics is always addressing the mountains of "red tape" imposed on small business by governments over the decades, some more than others.
The ever rising costs of hiring/training employees that independent small business endures.
The taxes paid and the costs endured by small business for collecting and submitting taxes.
Just a few areas that could be streamlined to allow small business to flourish.
Small business is the backbone of any economy, a basic recognized fact.
Yet, as Obama is currently doing and will continue to, small business gets crushed each and every time there are economic hard times
If you listen to Romney, stimulating small business for growth, hiring more employees and new start ups is a big part of his plan and it makes complete sense.
This is a guy with the experience and know how to make it happen.
"exacerbate the current fiscal disaster"
You make a statement like that but give Obama, the biggest spender as president of all time, a pass backed by nothing but tired worn out excuses.
You can ramble about past presidents till the cows come home stats but Obama has had his four years and bottom line is his record sucks.
Grump 10/31/2012 8:50:09 AM Report
Status did you see the article in the Sault Star last evening on Flaterty? That said I'm sure it will also be called a lefty rag. He is now telling everyone that our economy is not all doom and gloom. This in spite of our GDP being considerably lower than forecast and the fact that the deficit is also going up along with the National debt. He would not outright admit that they will not meet their deficit reductions by 2015/2016 but only one of the faithfull would buy that one. We had better paint our backsides yellow because that's who will own them soon.
Status did you see the article in the Sault Star last evening on Flaterty? That said I'm sure it will also be called a lefty rag. He is now telling everyone that our economy is not all doom and gloom. This in spite of our GDP being considerably lower than forecast and the fact that the deficit is also going up along with the National debt. He would not outright admit that they will not meet their deficit reductions by 2015/2016 but only one of the faithfull would buy that one. We had better paint our backsides yellow because that's who will own them soon.
Jimssm 10/31/2012 9:01:26 AM Report
Grump:
If you want to do an interesting analysis, go back and see the record on Canada's eficit. It is a real eye-opener.
Contrary to what the extreme right would have you believe, it has been consistently the Conservatives that have got us into debt and the Liberals who have got us back into the black.
So the phrase "tax and spend liberal" is full of it, truth be known.
PS...the same goes for the USA, if you examine the link that was posted above. Obama reduced the US deficit substantially his first 2 years.
Grump:
If you want to do an interesting analysis, go back and see the record on Canada's eficit. It is a real eye-opener.
Contrary to what the extreme right would have you believe, it has been consistently the Conservatives that have got us into debt and the Liberals who have got us back into the black.
So the phrase "tax and spend liberal" is full of it, truth be known.
PS...the same goes for the USA, if you examine the link that was posted above. Obama reduced the US deficit substantially his first 2 years.
Grace 10/31/2012 9:02:49 AM Report
Grump...Truth or fiction?
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm
Cousins in Pensilvania has pictures of the one near them!
Grump...Truth or fiction?
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm
Cousins in Pensilvania has pictures of the one near them!
Grump 10/31/2012 9:12:22 AM Report
A friend passed this on the other day but probably didn't want to break all these tender right wing hearts. The top 1% in the USA got 9% of the gross income in days of yore. The 1% now receive 23% of the gross. What the USA does not need is right now is good ole Mitt. If this was anywhere else but the west there would likely have been a revolt by now. It was further noted that the trickle down from that largesse was almost non-existent. So much for all this right wing benevolance.
A friend passed this on the other day but probably didn't want to break all these tender right wing hearts. The top 1% in the USA got 9% of the gross income in days of yore. The 1% now receive 23% of the gross. What the USA does not need is right now is good ole Mitt. If this was anywhere else but the west there would likely have been a revolt by now. It was further noted that the trickle down from that largesse was almost non-existent. So much for all this right wing benevolance.
Retreaded 10/31/2012 9:16:32 AM Report
Sandy just assured Obama of a win. He is acting very presidential even if it is in his benefit to do so. Folks will recall how BUSH handled KATRINA and that will hurt ROMNEY.
Sandy just assured Obama of a win. He is acting very presidential even if it is in his benefit to do so. Folks will recall how BUSH handled KATRINA and that will hurt ROMNEY.
Spellchecker 10/31/2012 9:18:30 AM Report
Status, your chart shows the highest budget deficits during the last four years. Great way to prove your point, LOL.
Status, your chart shows the highest budget deficits during the last four years. Great way to prove your point, LOL.
right wing 10/31/2012 9:18:33 AM Report
Grump
Again you lefties with the half truths.
It did not take the Federal government under Bush a long time to respond.
Do some reading on what actually took place.
Bush had contacted Gov. Blanco who had already declared a state of emergency but did not want the Feds to take complete control, she would not sign the papers.
There was a behind the scenes power struggle between the Federal government (Bush), Gov. Blanco and Mayor Nagin.
There were phone calls placed between the President, Blanco and Nagin discussing Federal assistance, that they declare the state an emergency area (Blanco already had) and begin mandatory evacuation. After a personal plea from the President Nagin agreed to order an evacuation of New Orleans.
On the same day Governor Blanco, who had already declared a state of emergency did request that President Bush declare a state of emergency for Louisianan for a full federal response.
There was enough blame to go around on that deal but the media once again placed entire blame on the scape goat of the times, Bush.
Bush later admitted that he should have just gave the order and sorted out the politics later but he was following protocol.
Grump
Again you lefties with the half truths.
It did not take the Federal government under Bush a long time to respond.
Do some reading on what actually took place.
Bush had contacted Gov. Blanco who had already declared a state of emergency but did not want the Feds to take complete control, she would not sign the papers.
There was a behind the scenes power struggle between the Federal government (Bush), Gov. Blanco and Mayor Nagin.
There were phone calls placed between the President, Blanco and Nagin discussing Federal assistance, that they declare the state an emergency area (Blanco already had) and begin mandatory evacuation. After a personal plea from the President Nagin agreed to order an evacuation of New Orleans.
On the same day Governor Blanco, who had already declared a state of emergency did request that President Bush declare a state of emergency for Louisianan for a full federal response.
There was enough blame to go around on that deal but the media once again placed entire blame on the scape goat of the times, Bush.
Bush later admitted that he should have just gave the order and sorted out the politics later but he was following protocol.
Grace 10/31/2012 9:20:33 AM Report
Grump..so 3% of the 23% are in on the game yet 89% are oblivious that Canada is to their north and British Columbia is in South America and un inhabited!
So much hype so little time!
Grump..so 3% of the 23% are in on the game yet 89% are oblivious that Canada is to their north and British Columbia is in South America and un inhabited!
So much hype so little time!
right wing 10/31/2012 9:21:03 AM Report
Spellchecker
Hahahahahaha....I has gone through that chart and was going to make the same comment.
Is that not so generous of statusquo to provide the ammunition.
Not only the last four years take a close look at some of the other time slots.
Spellchecker
Hahahahahaha....I has gone through that chart and was going to make the same comment.
Is that not so generous of statusquo to provide the ammunition.
Not only the last four years take a close look at some of the other time slots.
Jimssm 10/31/2012 9:23:45 AM Report
Grace...
re: your link
Where do you pick up this stuff ???
Articles actually accusing Obama of being to right-wing ?
lol
Black helicopter and tinfoil hat at the ready.
Grace...
re: your link
Where do you pick up this stuff ???
Articles actually accusing Obama of being to right-wing ?
lol
Black helicopter and tinfoil hat at the ready.
Spellchecker 10/31/2012 9:24:09 AM Report
Jimssm, perhaps you also should have a look at the chart provided by statusquo's tiny url.
Jimssm, perhaps you also should have a look at the chart provided by statusquo's tiny url.
right wing 10/31/2012 9:25:13 AM Report
Grump
What your "friend" left out is the fact that the top 20% of the wage earners pay 80% of the taxes.
So yes lets just keep that class warfare alive and well, lets witch hunt those evil rich people and tax them completely out of the country...we'll all be better off without them, right!
Grump
What your "friend" left out is the fact that the top 20% of the wage earners pay 80% of the taxes.
So yes lets just keep that class warfare alive and well, lets witch hunt those evil rich people and tax them completely out of the country...we'll all be better off without them, right!
Jimssm 10/31/2012 9:26:21 AM Report
So Brownie actually said that President Obama reacted TOO QUICKLY to hurricane Sandy ??
Can't the GOP get a hold of their loose cannons ?
Doesn't get any better than that. lol
So Brownie actually said that President Obama reacted TOO QUICKLY to hurricane Sandy ??
Can't the GOP get a hold of their loose cannons ?
Doesn't get any better than that. lol
Jimssm 10/31/2012 9:30:45 AM Report
Spelly...
That's the url I'm talking about. Go a little farther down and check out the deficits relating to each President.
In general GOP = deficit
Libs = less deficit
Not talking debt here...of course ANY deficit increases the debt.
Spelly...
That's the url I'm talking about. Go a little farther down and check out the deficits relating to each President.
In general GOP = deficit
Libs = less deficit
Not talking debt here...of course ANY deficit increases the debt.
right wing 10/31/2012 9:36:53 AM Report
Jimssm
The 1/2 truths are just flying out this morning courtesy of the left.
"He just recently announced that he wanted to downsize or dismantle FEMA and pass the responsibility down to the individual States."
This is what was actually said and why.
Here is that exchange from the June debate between Romney and CNN’s John King:
KING: What else, Governor Romney? You’ve been a chief executive of a state. I was just in Joplin, Mo. I’ve been in Mississippi and Louisiana and Tennessee and other communities dealing with [disaster], whether it’s the tornadoes, the flooding and worse. FEMA is about to run out of money, and there are some people who say, ‘Do it on a case-by-case basis,’ and some people who say, you know, ‘Maybe we’re learning a lesson here that the states should take on more of this role.’ How do you deal with something like that?
ROMNEY: Absolutely. Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that’s the right direction. And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that’s even better. Instead of thinking in the federal budget, what we should cut — we should ask ourselves the opposite question. What should we keep? We should take all of what we’re doing at the federal level and say, what are the things we’re doing that we don’t have to do? And those
things we’ve got to stop doing, because we’re borrowing $1.6 trillion more this year than we’re taking in.
“Gov. Romney believes that states should be in charge of emergency management in responding to storms and other natural disasters in their jurisdictions,” said Amanda Hennenberg. “As the first responders, states are in the best position to aid affected individuals and communities, and to direct resources and assistance to where they are needed most. This includes help from the federal government and FEMA.”
President Obama has declared a record number of disasters. And there have been charges that his administration has been too quick with federal aid.
In other words let the state control the spending...makes total sense to me.
Jimssm
The 1/2 truths are just flying out this morning courtesy of the left.
"He just recently announced that he wanted to downsize or dismantle FEMA and pass the responsibility down to the individual States."
This is what was actually said and why.
Here is that exchange from the June debate between Romney and CNN’s John King:
KING: What else, Governor Romney? You’ve been a chief executive of a state. I was just in Joplin, Mo. I’ve been in Mississippi and Louisiana and Tennessee and other communities dealing with [disaster], whether it’s the tornadoes, the flooding and worse. FEMA is about to run out of money, and there are some people who say, ‘Do it on a case-by-case basis,’ and some people who say, you know, ‘Maybe we’re learning a lesson here that the states should take on more of this role.’ How do you deal with something like that?
ROMNEY: Absolutely. Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that’s the right direction. And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that’s even better. Instead of thinking in the federal budget, what we should cut — we should ask ourselves the opposite question. What should we keep? We should take all of what we’re doing at the federal level and say, what are the things we’re doing that we don’t have to do? And those
things we’ve got to stop doing, because we’re borrowing $1.6 trillion more this year than we’re taking in.
“Gov. Romney believes that states should be in charge of emergency management in responding to storms and other natural disasters in their jurisdictions,” said Amanda Hennenberg. “As the first responders, states are in the best position to aid affected individuals and communities, and to direct resources and assistance to where they are needed most. This includes help from the federal government and FEMA.”
President Obama has declared a record number of disasters. And there have been charges that his administration has been too quick with federal aid.
In other words let the state control the spending...makes total sense to me.
Wheels17 10/31/2012 9:38:27 AM Report
Blah, blah, blah, american politics. Blah, blah, blah, Hurricane Sandy.
Can we please talk about other things going on in the world? I know that the US is our neighbour but we don't need to talk about the US until we are blue in the face.
Blah, blah, blah, american politics. Blah, blah, blah, Hurricane Sandy.
Can we please talk about other things going on in the world? I know that the US is our neighbour but we don't need to talk about the US until we are blue in the face.
Spellchecker 10/31/2012 9:42:04 AM Report
Jimssm, status was talking about the ballooning of the national debt in the United States. If the highest budget deficits came in the last four years isn't that the biggest contributor to the national debt? If you look back previously to the second world war period you will see that both parties were more responsible about debt levels.
Jimssm, status was talking about the ballooning of the national debt in the United States. If the highest budget deficits came in the last four years isn't that the biggest contributor to the national debt? If you look back previously to the second world war period you will see that both parties were more responsible about debt levels.
right wing 10/31/2012 9:45:33 AM Report
Yes Jimssm looking at final public debt each year Obama has been President and your point is?
....and the deficit, that is a horror story on its own.
Take a look when Republicans entered the scene as house majority party.
Yes Jimssm looking at final public debt each year Obama has been President and your point is?
....and the deficit, that is a horror story on its own.
Take a look when Republicans entered the scene as house majority party.
right wing 10/31/2012 9:48:19 AM Report
Wheels17
Sure you can talk about all the other things in the world all you like, exactly like some of us others are currently doing.
The stage is yours.....
Wheels17
Sure you can talk about all the other things in the world all you like, exactly like some of us others are currently doing.
The stage is yours.....
Spellchecker 10/31/2012 9:55:38 AM Report
Now the stage is bare
And I'm standing there
With emptiness in my heart.
Now the stage is bare
And I'm standing there
With emptiness in my heart.
Grump 10/31/2012 10:00:10 AM Report
rw stick to the facts. I said the top 1% not the top 20%. I have no doubt that the 1% pay damn little and the other 19 % pay their fair share. But you keep skirting the truth and posting biased B.S.
rw stick to the facts. I said the top 1% not the top 20%. I have no doubt that the 1% pay damn little and the other 19 % pay their fair share. But you keep skirting the truth and posting biased B.S.
Grace 10/31/2012 10:04:36 AM Report
Jimm..amazing what you can dig up!
Just be glad it will be all over next week.
Wonder if the election has ever been postponed or delayed due to conditions that the U.S. is currently in the grip of.
Good to see Billy Clinton and Smiling Joe haven't stopped stummping for the One..While Mitt is out working food at drives!
Jimm..amazing what you can dig up!
Just be glad it will be all over next week.
Wonder if the election has ever been postponed or delayed due to conditions that the U.S. is currently in the grip of.
Good to see Billy Clinton and Smiling Joe haven't stopped stummping for the One..While Mitt is out working food at drives!
Grump 10/31/2012 10:04:46 AM Report
Sorry Spelly I have to get a little work done here between posts. Sorry you are feeling lonely. lol.
Sorry Spelly I have to get a little work done here between posts. Sorry you are feeling lonely. lol.
right wing 10/31/2012 10:06:12 AM Report
Grump, grump, grump....the top 1% are part of the 20% when it comes to the majority of tax paid.
It is a fact, one that lefties hate with a passion, I have proven it on here before and I am not going to do it again.
Check it out for yourself, it is all on government records.
Grump, grump, grump....the top 1% are part of the 20% when it comes to the majority of tax paid.
It is a fact, one that lefties hate with a passion, I have proven it on here before and I am not going to do it again.
Check it out for yourself, it is all on government records.
Grace 10/31/2012 10:08:08 AM Report
Grump...getting it straight...1% of the 82% believe that 20% of the 2% that believe that UFO's exist.
Sorry bud just couldn't resist. 90% of me said no but 3.25% said go for it..lol
Grump...getting it straight...1% of the 82% believe that 20% of the 2% that believe that UFO's exist.
Sorry bud just couldn't resist. 90% of me said no but 3.25% said go for it..lol
Jimssm 10/31/2012 10:09:08 AM Report
Obama reduced (did not eliminate) the deficit for his first two years as President. That's a fact.
Enter the GOP congress and he was no longer able to reduce the deficit. It doesn't take a genius to put 2 and 2 together. Either Obama couldn't/wouldn't work with Congress or Congress couldn't/wouldn't work with Obama. It doesn't really matter which it was.
Yes...ANY deficit adds to the debt.
Obama reduced (did not eliminate) the deficit for his first two years as President. That's a fact.
Enter the GOP congress and he was no longer able to reduce the deficit. It doesn't take a genius to put 2 and 2 together. Either Obama couldn't/wouldn't work with Congress or Congress couldn't/wouldn't work with Obama. It doesn't really matter which it was.
Yes...ANY deficit adds to the debt.
Jimssm 10/31/2012 10:12:12 AM Report
Grace...
Do you really think that Mitt is actually working at those food drives ?
Good for him for asking prople to donate food at his rallys but maybe he should also ask people to donate to the Red Cross.
Grace...
Do you really think that Mitt is actually working at those food drives ?
Good for him for asking prople to donate food at his rallys but maybe he should also ask people to donate to the Red Cross.
right wing 10/31/2012 10:14:34 AM Report
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A.J. Ellis' wife, Cindy, gave birth to the couple's third child in a car while the Los Angeles Dodgers catcher was barrelling down a highway at 75 m.p.h. in a futile attempt to get to a hospital.
Ellis, who lives near Milwaukee during the off-season, told ESPN.com that his wife was screaming that they wouldn't make it to the hospital on time.
"So I'm calmly telling her we're making it," Ellis said. "I figured she was just panicking because she was in excruciating pain."
On another note.
This one is for all the topic whiners out there.
From the QMI agency.
Wife of Dodgers Catcher Gives Birth in Speeding Car
Audrey Ellis was born Oct. 12 in the front seat of the car on Interstate 43, 20 minutes from the hospital. Mother and daughter are doing fine.
The car was borrowed from Ellis' father-in-law. The catcher's own car is a compact, but it's hard for him to drive it as he is coming off knee surgery.
"The in-laws took it to a car wash to be cleaned," Ellis said. "The vehicle has since reacquired that new-car smell."
Other than a Dr., who better than a professional back catcher?
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A.J. Ellis' wife, Cindy, gave birth to the couple's third child in a car while the Los Angeles Dodgers catcher was barrelling down a highway at 75 m.p.h. in a futile attempt to get to a hospital.
Ellis, who lives near Milwaukee during the off-season, told ESPN.com that his wife was screaming that they wouldn't make it to the hospital on time.
"So I'm calmly telling her we're making it," Ellis said. "I figured she was just panicking because she was in excruciating pain."
On another note.
This one is for all the topic whiners out there.
From the QMI agency.
Wife of Dodgers Catcher Gives Birth in Speeding Car
Audrey Ellis was born Oct. 12 in the front seat of the car on Interstate 43, 20 minutes from the hospital. Mother and daughter are doing fine.
The car was borrowed from Ellis' father-in-law. The catcher's own car is a compact, but it's hard for him to drive it as he is coming off knee surgery.
"The in-laws took it to a car wash to be cleaned," Ellis said. "The vehicle has since reacquired that new-car smell."
Other than a Dr., who better than a professional back catcher?
Jimssm 10/31/2012 10:18:55 AM Report
rw
The fact is that New Jersey would not be able to handle Sandy on it's own and requires the Feds to help out.
Gov. Christie ( a huge Romney fan) knows that which is why he is now heaping praise on Obama.
So where would Romney's "States on their own" plan leave them ?.....up the creek without a paddle.
BOTH the GOP and DEMS like big government...they just like it in different places.
rw
The fact is that New Jersey would not be able to handle Sandy on it's own and requires the Feds to help out.
Gov. Christie ( a huge Romney fan) knows that which is why he is now heaping praise on Obama.
So where would Romney's "States on their own" plan leave them ?.....up the creek without a paddle.
BOTH the GOP and DEMS like big government...they just like it in different places.
right wing 10/31/2012 10:20:53 AM Report
Hey Jimssm could you provide some info on that deficit reduction that Obama supposedly did cause all I can find is that Obama promised to reduce the deficit in his first term by 50% but instead tripled it in his first year in office.
His proposed budget was 3.85 trillion, the largest ever in U.S. history.
No?
Hey Jimssm could you provide some info on that deficit reduction that Obama supposedly did cause all I can find is that Obama promised to reduce the deficit in his first term by 50% but instead tripled it in his first year in office.
His proposed budget was 3.85 trillion, the largest ever in U.S. history.
No?
Jimssm 10/31/2012 10:34:08 AM Report
rw
http://tinyurl.com/mw2wdd
....and as much as I hate cut and paste.....here goes:
"The first two full fiscal years of the Obama presidency saw unprecedented decreases in deficits: more in two years, after adjusting for inflation, than in Truman's eight years, and twice as much as in Clinton's eight years. That trend did not continue in the third year, which saw an insignificant decrease in deficits.
The first seven years of the G.W. Bush presidency increased the deficit by almost twice as much as the 32 years from JFK through G.H.W.Bush combined, and somewhat more than the 24 years from Harding through FDR combined (in inflation-adjusted dollars).
If one includes fiscal year 2008-2009 as part of the G.W. Bush administration (consistent with my treatment of all other administrations), that administration oversaw 3.5 times as much increase in Federal budget deficits as Presidents Kennedy through G.H.W.Bush put together.
Obviously, many of the reasons a deficit grows or shrinks are beyond the President's control: Congress, the economy, the beginning or ending of a war, the beginning or ending of a recession, etc. For example, the beginning of World War II can be blamed for much of FDR's increase in the deficit, just as the end of World War II and the start of the post-war economic boom can be credited for much of Truman's matching decrease. I'm not sure what happened to Ford: he faced an economic recession, but so have many Presidents.
At least in my lifetime, Republican Presidents have placed high priority on cutting taxes, and placed lower priority on (or had less success at) cutting spending. Democratic Presidents have perhaps had equal success at cutting spending (I haven't researched those numbers), but have not been bound by promises to cut taxes.
There may be other factors at work, e.g. the American people tend to elect a Democrat when things are at their worst and about to improve anyway, or something like that. Read into the numbers what you will."
This is a pretty even-handed article, so take from it what you will.
rw
http://tinyurl.com/mw2wdd
....and as much as I hate cut and paste.....here goes:
"The first two full fiscal years of the Obama presidency saw unprecedented decreases in deficits: more in two years, after adjusting for inflation, than in Truman's eight years, and twice as much as in Clinton's eight years. That trend did not continue in the third year, which saw an insignificant decrease in deficits.
The first seven years of the G.W. Bush presidency increased the deficit by almost twice as much as the 32 years from JFK through G.H.W.Bush combined, and somewhat more than the 24 years from Harding through FDR combined (in inflation-adjusted dollars).
If one includes fiscal year 2008-2009 as part of the G.W. Bush administration (consistent with my treatment of all other administrations), that administration oversaw 3.5 times as much increase in Federal budget deficits as Presidents Kennedy through G.H.W.Bush put together.
Obviously, many of the reasons a deficit grows or shrinks are beyond the President's control: Congress, the economy, the beginning or ending of a war, the beginning or ending of a recession, etc. For example, the beginning of World War II can be blamed for much of FDR's increase in the deficit, just as the end of World War II and the start of the post-war economic boom can be credited for much of Truman's matching decrease. I'm not sure what happened to Ford: he faced an economic recession, but so have many Presidents.
At least in my lifetime, Republican Presidents have placed high priority on cutting taxes, and placed lower priority on (or had less success at) cutting spending. Democratic Presidents have perhaps had equal success at cutting spending (I haven't researched those numbers), but have not been bound by promises to cut taxes.
There may be other factors at work, e.g. the American people tend to elect a Democrat when things are at their worst and about to improve anyway, or something like that. Read into the numbers what you will."
This is a pretty even-handed article, so take from it what you will.
right wing 10/31/2012 10:45:07 AM Report
Jimssm
Not necessarily and this whole issue is up for debate.
It would allow states to react quicker and channel money where it is most needed.
It would also put more due diligence on states in defining real states of emergency.
This has been a widely debated issue long before Romney was on the scene.
Much of this was learned during Katrina.
The Governor was reluctant to give full power and control to the Feds and with some good reason.
Even in Canadian politics I am a firm believer in more $$$$ flow and power to provinces and less power and $$$$ flow to Federal.
Jimssm
Not necessarily and this whole issue is up for debate.
It would allow states to react quicker and channel money where it is most needed.
It would also put more due diligence on states in defining real states of emergency.
This has been a widely debated issue long before Romney was on the scene.
Much of this was learned during Katrina.
The Governor was reluctant to give full power and control to the Feds and with some good reason.
Even in Canadian politics I am a firm believer in more $$$$ flow and power to provinces and less power and $$$$ flow to Federal.
right wing 10/31/2012 10:49:27 AM Report
Jimssm
Good information.
There is, IMO, nothing wrong with cutting and pasting, it provides information that can be scrutinized by the reader.
The last thing I would request is a link or the source to what you posted so it could be read in its entirety.
Jimssm
Good information.
There is, IMO, nothing wrong with cutting and pasting, it provides information that can be scrutinized by the reader.
The last thing I would request is a link or the source to what you posted so it could be read in its entirety.
right wing 10/31/2012 10:50:48 AM Report
Sorry Jim, axe that, I just noticed your link at the top.
I shall be reading.
Thanks.
Sorry Jim, axe that, I just noticed your link at the top.
I shall be reading.
Thanks.
Wheels17 10/31/2012 10:56:35 AM Report
I watched the other day on the news about the switch of the Chief of the Defense Staff General Natynczyk to General Lawson. General Lawson is a former airforce pilot and is a major supporter of the purchase of the F-35 fighters. Sounds like there is a conflict of interest here. When the media asked him about how he was going to cut the fat to the military's budget, he said he wasn't aware of any fat that needed to be cut. If cuts were made, they would have to eliminate over 7000 desk jobs and elminate some reservists. Of course, Stephen Harper was the person that is requesting this to happen. He just keeps putting more money his pocket and selling off our futures.
I watched the other day on the news about the switch of the Chief of the Defense Staff General Natynczyk to General Lawson. General Lawson is a former airforce pilot and is a major supporter of the purchase of the F-35 fighters. Sounds like there is a conflict of interest here. When the media asked him about how he was going to cut the fat to the military's budget, he said he wasn't aware of any fat that needed to be cut. If cuts were made, they would have to eliminate over 7000 desk jobs and elminate some reservists. Of course, Stephen Harper was the person that is requesting this to happen. He just keeps putting more money his pocket and selling off our futures.
everson 10/31/2012 11:42:58 AM Report
I agree Wheels the next 10 generations are going to pay that 590 Billion dollars that we owe to the Chinese.
I agree Wheels the next 10 generations are going to pay that 590 Billion dollars that we owe to the Chinese.
right wing 10/31/2012 11:50:54 AM Report
everson
How's it going?
Did you have a funeral for asIseeit.....
I prefer you to your alter ego, how many more in there?
;)
everson
How's it going?
Did you have a funeral for asIseeit.....
I prefer you to your alter ego, how many more in there?
;)
flyhawk25 10/31/2012 11:54:44 AM Report
I think it's time to respond to right wig's response to yesterday's question by Grace about why he would vote for Romney.
He wrote twice about Romney's
"solid record" once in relationship to his run as governor in Massachusetts and once as "a problem solver".He then went on to write that "each and every president inherits a mess on some level" and again touts Romney's experience...education...and record".
That's it.
Reading it again shows it to be more of a criticism of President Obama than a reason to vote for Mitt.
But let's examine his record as governor. He used his veto power over 800 times. He instituted the template for Obamacare but now criticizes Obama's.
Both he and Obama graduated from Harvard. Obama was made the editor of the Harvard Law Review. Romney may or may not have read it.
Beyond his run at being governor he led the Winter Olympics and made millions in the six years he's been prepping to run for president.
He says government should let business operate unfettered from restraints but says he will create jobs.
Yet this week both GM and Chrysler in an very unusual statement rebutted his auto bail-out claims.
Now during the superstorm he is doing photo-ops at relief centers that look a lot like GOP rallies.
NJ governor Chris Christie has praised the president's efforts and that old FEMA burn-out from the GWB days of post Katrina has criticized the POTUS action. "Heck of a job Brownie" indeed.
I hope Obama wins this thing and in four years I'd take a serious look at Christie as a credible GOP candidate - a moderate Republican who actually has "a solid record" and is a "problem solver".
In the meantime Mitt and his Morons can get back to campaigning while the real leader solves problems.
I think it's time to respond to right wig's response to yesterday's question by Grace about why he would vote for Romney.
He wrote twice about Romney's
"solid record" once in relationship to his run as governor in Massachusetts and once as "a problem solver".He then went on to write that "each and every president inherits a mess on some level" and again touts Romney's experience...education...and record".
That's it.
Reading it again shows it to be more of a criticism of President Obama than a reason to vote for Mitt.
But let's examine his record as governor. He used his veto power over 800 times. He instituted the template for Obamacare but now criticizes Obama's.
Both he and Obama graduated from Harvard. Obama was made the editor of the Harvard Law Review. Romney may or may not have read it.
Beyond his run at being governor he led the Winter Olympics and made millions in the six years he's been prepping to run for president.
He says government should let business operate unfettered from restraints but says he will create jobs.
Yet this week both GM and Chrysler in an very unusual statement rebutted his auto bail-out claims.
Now during the superstorm he is doing photo-ops at relief centers that look a lot like GOP rallies.
NJ governor Chris Christie has praised the president's efforts and that old FEMA burn-out from the GWB days of post Katrina has criticized the POTUS action. "Heck of a job Brownie" indeed.
I hope Obama wins this thing and in four years I'd take a serious look at Christie as a credible GOP candidate - a moderate Republican who actually has "a solid record" and is a "problem solver".
In the meantime Mitt and his Morons can get back to campaigning while the real leader solves problems.
Grace 10/31/2012 12:17:03 PM Report
Thanks again Fly..I'll be waiting for RW's response. Sure to be a doozie!
Thanks again Fly..I'll be waiting for RW's response. Sure to be a doozie!
everson 10/31/2012 12:17:43 PM Report
right wing I have not been on here for a while due to personal physical health issues that has disrupted my life to say the least . Try to be civil for once.
right wing I have not been on here for a while due to personal physical health issues that has disrupted my life to say the least . Try to be civil for once.
everson 10/31/2012 12:28:22 PM Report
Sergio Marchionne CEO of Chrysler has stated and refuted Mitt Romneys claims that Chrysler will move jobs to China. This is ironic since Ronmeys investments are manufacturing in China. Desperation includes scare tactics. He is playing upon vulnerable autoworkers.
Sergio Marchionne CEO of Chrysler has stated and refuted Mitt Romneys claims that Chrysler will move jobs to China. This is ironic since Ronmeys investments are manufacturing in China. Desperation includes scare tactics. He is playing upon vulnerable autoworkers.
Grace 10/31/2012 12:43:47 PM Report
Canadian psychic Blair Robertson picks a winner in next week’s U.S. presidential election
Bad news RW..
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-politics/canadian-psychic-blair-robertson-picks-winner-next-week-150407818.html
Canadian psychic Blair Robertson picks a winner in next week’s U.S. presidential election
Bad news RW..
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-politics/canadian-psychic-blair-robertson-picks-winner-next-week-150407818.html
Spellchecker 10/31/2012 12:57:41 PM Report
Right wing, the lefties really are incorrigible. They read that chart and see something entirely different than what it shows. It is actually funny to watch.
Right wing, the lefties really are incorrigible. They read that chart and see something entirely different than what it shows. It is actually funny to watch.
Spellchecker 10/31/2012 1:09:43 PM Report
Flyhawk, Christie is just sucking up to Obama to get at that Federal money. It's politics as usual. If he is such a moderate, why was he Ann Coulter's favourite to make a run for president? She was disappointed he didn't enter the race and I'm sure she is now disappointed in him campaigning for the other side. I can't wait to see her response about this. Rush is on about it now.
Flyhawk, Christie is just sucking up to Obama to get at that Federal money. It's politics as usual. If he is such a moderate, why was he Ann Coulter's favourite to make a run for president? She was disappointed he didn't enter the race and I'm sure she is now disappointed in him campaigning for the other side. I can't wait to see her response about this. Rush is on about it now.
RLE 10/31/2012 1:12:27 PM Report
Questions
How many of the political pundits on this site actually will vote in the U.S. presidential election?
If you are not going be a voter then why are you wasting your time? Why don't you volunteer and be of some use?
Questions
How many of the political pundits on this site actually will vote in the U.S. presidential election?
If you are not going be a voter then why are you wasting your time? Why don't you volunteer and be of some use?
Snobank 10/31/2012 1:13:40 PM Report
A cue that someone on this site has been frustrated by opposing viewpoints: insist how funny it is to watch the other side squirm. Both the lefties and the righties do this.
A second cue: make use of the word "little " when describing your opposition, such as "little lefties" or "little righties".
Both cues strongly hint that the writer, consciously or unconsciously, knows he/she is losing the argument.
A cue that someone on this site has been frustrated by opposing viewpoints: insist how funny it is to watch the other side squirm. Both the lefties and the righties do this.
A second cue: make use of the word "little " when describing your opposition, such as "little lefties" or "little righties".
Both cues strongly hint that the writer, consciously or unconsciously, knows he/she is losing the argument.
flyhawk25 10/31/2012 1:14:45 PM Report
Spelly...yikes!
Turn off Rush before your brain is sucked into the radio!
Repent!
*If you have already repented and left the dark side disregard this warning.*
Spelly...yikes!
Turn off Rush before your brain is sucked into the radio!
Repent!
*If you have already repented and left the dark side disregard this warning.*
Wisenheimer 10/31/2012 1:15:34 PM Report
Stock tip of the week! Scorpio Gold (SGN-X.) To double in the next year. All you lefties out there, get in the game. Stop relying on government for your existence.
You'll feel better about your lives. Might stop bitching and whining on here, about how hard done by you are. Last tip I gave you was VVUS-N (last Spring). Was $9.95 at the time sold recently at $29.60. Booyah!
Stock tip of the week! Scorpio Gold (SGN-X.) To double in the next year. All you lefties out there, get in the game. Stop relying on government for your existence.
You'll feel better about your lives. Might stop bitching and whining on here, about how hard done by you are. Last tip I gave you was VVUS-N (last Spring). Was $9.95 at the time sold recently at $29.60. Booyah!
Spellchecker 10/31/2012 1:19:40 PM Report
RLE, then how would my firewood have got piled from 10 am to 1PM? As it is I still have a lot to pile but my 67 year old back said that's enough for now and gave me a bit of a Sootoday and Rush break.
RLE, then how would my firewood have got piled from 10 am to 1PM? As it is I still have a lot to pile but my 67 year old back said that's enough for now and gave me a bit of a Sootoday and Rush break.
Spellchecker 10/31/2012 1:24:36 PM Report
Snobank, have you looked at that chart? If you do look at it honestly and your leftist tendencies aren't into the stratosphere, you will find Jimssm's response to it funny too.
Snobank, have you looked at that chart? If you do look at it honestly and your leftist tendencies aren't into the stratosphere, you will find Jimssm's response to it funny too.
Big Bad Bob 10/31/2012 1:38:21 PM Report
Wheels
Your first post was the best one that I have read on this site so far today. I wish you luck but don’t count on it. In other words, I fear that your effort is as futile as urinating against the wind. Sorry.
Wheels
Your first post was the best one that I have read on this site so far today. I wish you luck but don’t count on it. In other words, I fear that your effort is as futile as urinating against the wind. Sorry.
Jimssm 10/31/2012 1:52:54 PM Report
As much as I enjoy the banter....
I guess I'm gone off this site for a few days. One of my workers has been seriously hurt in a scuffle overseas and I need to head out and take care of business.
I may still sculk in here at times but I doubt I'll be able to actively discuss (7 hour time difference)
Take care, everyone.
As much as I enjoy the banter....
I guess I'm gone off this site for a few days. One of my workers has been seriously hurt in a scuffle overseas and I need to head out and take care of business.
I may still sculk in here at times but I doubt I'll be able to actively discuss (7 hour time difference)
Take care, everyone.
Wheels17 10/31/2012 1:55:14 PM Report
Well I thank you for your support Big Bad Bob. I try to break it up once in awhile but it doesn't seem to work.
Well I thank you for your support Big Bad Bob. I try to break it up once in awhile but it doesn't seem to work.
Grump 10/31/2012 1:59:06 PM Report
Everson glad to see you back. You may have caught neo-con flu from too much open crap being liberally spread around. Hope you are well but don't breath deeply around it. LMAO
Everson glad to see you back. You may have caught neo-con flu from too much open crap being liberally spread around. Hope you are well but don't breath deeply around it. LMAO
Wisenheimer 10/31/2012 2:25:51 PM Report
I think she was sick of being "asiseeit".
Grump, you obviously aren't picky about your ideological support but libs never are.
I think she was sick of being "asiseeit".
Grump, you obviously aren't picky about your ideological support but libs never are.
Prevost 10/31/2012 2:42:33 PM Report
I would like to see everson and asIseeit pinging off each other. Sybil, I wonder if you can make it happen? It would be great entertainment for all.
I would like to see everson and asIseeit pinging off each other. Sybil, I wonder if you can make it happen? It would be great entertainment for all.
Grump 10/31/2012 2:46:34 PM Report
Wisen run along back to your Mitt's morons club with Blues and continue your little love in. Everson is a bright one which is more than I can say for Mitt's boys. Carry on with your dumb assed comments or we would think you weren't feeling well.
Wisen run along back to your Mitt's morons club with Blues and continue your little love in. Everson is a bright one which is more than I can say for Mitt's boys. Carry on with your dumb assed comments or we would think you weren't feeling well.
TankGirl 10/31/2012 3:01:50 PM Report
I can't wait to see the reactions in here on election day.
My money is on Obama. Always has been.
I can't wait to see the reactions in here on election day.
My money is on Obama. Always has been.
Wisenheimer 10/31/2012 3:31:49 PM Report
"Everson is a bright one"! Quick .. someone get Grump an ambulance!
"Everson is a bright one"! Quick .. someone get Grump an ambulance!
Wheels17 10/31/2012 3:39:04 PM Report
Romney couldn't sell ice to an Eskimo. I think Obama would do a better job anyways because he knows how to connect better with the people and has helped with trying to repair the mess that G.W left after his terms in the White House. Romney makes all these promises and has not proof of anything good that he has done.
Romney couldn't sell ice to an Eskimo. I think Obama would do a better job anyways because he knows how to connect better with the people and has helped with trying to repair the mess that G.W left after his terms in the White House. Romney makes all these promises and has not proof of anything good that he has done.
BIG BROTHER 10/31/2012 3:52:03 PM Report
Wheels,
You aren't supposed to mention Dubya. That's how denial works for the recovering cases. He did wonderful things for the country (and the world, for that matter), don't ya know!! 'Mission Accomplished'
How pathetic is that!!
Wheels,
You aren't supposed to mention Dubya. That's how denial works for the recovering cases. He did wonderful things for the country (and the world, for that matter), don't ya know!! 'Mission Accomplished'
How pathetic is that!!
Grace 10/31/2012 4:00:43 PM Report
I'd still say it is a toss up but I think now that a psychic has picked Romney all will be well.
I'd still say it is a toss up but I think now that a psychic has picked Romney all will be well.
nanag 10/31/2012 4:35:57 PM Report
I did not make this up.. nor do I agree with it but...
Just got this in my in box (note # 10)
Jeff Foxworthy on Muslims
1. You grow poppies and refine heroin for a living, but you have a moral objection to liquor.
You may be a Muslim
2. You own a $3,000 machine gun and $5,000 rocket launcher and ammo, but you can't afford shoes. You may be a Muslim
3. You have more wives than teeth.
You may be a Muslim
4. You wipe your butt with your bare hand, but consider bacon and pork unclean.
You may be a Muslim
5. You think vests come in two styles: bullet-proof and suicide.
You may be a Muslim
6. You can't think of anyone you haven't declared Jihad against.
You may be a Muslim
7. You consider television dangerous, but routinely carry explosives in your clothing.
You may be a Muslim
8. You were amazed to discover that cell phones have uses other than setting off roadside bombs.
You may be a Muslim
9. You have nothing against women and think every man should own at least four.
You may be a Muslim
10. Your cousin is president of the United States .
You may be a Muslim
11. You find this offensive or racist and won't forward it.
You probably are a Muslim
I did not make this up.. nor do I agree with it but...
Just got this in my in box (note # 10)
Jeff Foxworthy on Muslims
1. You grow poppies and refine heroin for a living, but you have a moral objection to liquor.
You may be a Muslim
2. You own a $3,000 machine gun and $5,000 rocket launcher and ammo, but you can't afford shoes. You may be a Muslim
3. You have more wives than teeth.
You may be a Muslim
4. You wipe your butt with your bare hand, but consider bacon and pork unclean.
You may be a Muslim
5. You think vests come in two styles: bullet-proof and suicide.
You may be a Muslim
6. You can't think of anyone you haven't declared Jihad against.
You may be a Muslim
7. You consider television dangerous, but routinely carry explosives in your clothing.
You may be a Muslim
8. You were amazed to discover that cell phones have uses other than setting off roadside bombs.
You may be a Muslim
9. You have nothing against women and think every man should own at least four.
You may be a Muslim
10. Your cousin is president of the United States .
You may be a Muslim
11. You find this offensive or racist and won't forward it.
You probably are a Muslim
shakespeare 10/31/2012 4:37:30 PM Report
I've just been reading the back and forth today and and it has been what a news forum should be ... informative, entertaining and quite polite. I would say that 90% of the posts meet that criteria and the other half are not worth reading (adapted from Yogi Berra).
In my unbiased opinion, I would say that the left have had the better of the day.
I've just been reading the back and forth today and and it has been what a news forum should be ... informative, entertaining and quite polite. I would say that 90% of the posts meet that criteria and the other half are not worth reading (adapted from Yogi Berra).
In my unbiased opinion, I would say that the left have had the better of the day.
All Is Well 10/31/2012 4:43:47 PM Report
The best measure to use is debt to GDP. Republican presidents are the worse for adding to the debt.
The best measure to use is debt to GDP. Republican presidents are the worse for adding to the debt.
All Is Well 10/31/2012 4:50:15 PM Report
Weisen, I would invest but Bernie Madoff took all my money and it disappeared. :)
Weisen, I would invest but Bernie Madoff took all my money and it disappeared. :)
Grace 10/31/2012 4:53:20 PM Report
Wonder if the job numbers are going to come out Friday like they were supose too?
Wonder if the job numbers are going to come out Friday like they were supose too?
the_mage 10/31/2012 5:02:47 PM Report
Whoa.
American news and discussions on here.
You guys don't get out much do you?
If you are so much into American, why don't you numb nuts move over there?
Useless posts...
Whoa.
American news and discussions on here.
You guys don't get out much do you?
If you are so much into American, why don't you numb nuts move over there?
Useless posts...
right wing 10/31/2012 5:06:22 PM Report
"In my unbiased opinion, I would say that the left have had the better of the day."
Unbiased opinion ain't that a corker coming from a resident lefty.
Hey Spellchecker....I was down your way this afternoon, did Sterling Bay, Whiskey Bay and down through Hilton, I should have checked I could have helped you pile wood.
Back in the "Soo" now.
"In my unbiased opinion, I would say that the left have had the better of the day."
Unbiased opinion ain't that a corker coming from a resident lefty.
Hey Spellchecker....I was down your way this afternoon, did Sterling Bay, Whiskey Bay and down through Hilton, I should have checked I could have helped you pile wood.
Back in the "Soo" now.
shakespeare 10/31/2012 5:08:07 PM Report
Right-wing radio host Rush Limbaugh denounced Gov. Christie as “fat and a fool” who “doesn’t know what he’s talking about.” (Globe and Mail)
Apparently steam was emanating from his ears. Good factual analysis Rush!
Excellent post magey!
Right-wing radio host Rush Limbaugh denounced Gov. Christie as “fat and a fool” who “doesn’t know what he’s talking about.” (Globe and Mail)
Apparently steam was emanating from his ears. Good factual analysis Rush!
Excellent post magey!
Wheels17 10/31/2012 5:08:15 PM Report
Big Brother, Dubya did absolutely nothing good for the U.S. He made things ten times worst for everyone with every bloody decision he made. Dubya never accomplished very much in his life anyways.
Big Brother, Dubya did absolutely nothing good for the U.S. He made things ten times worst for everyone with every bloody decision he made. Dubya never accomplished very much in his life anyways.
right wing 10/31/2012 5:08:49 PM Report
Grace
I shall not be responding to flyhawks typical rhetoric.
I am right he is wrong, time for tea.
Grace
I shall not be responding to flyhawks typical rhetoric.
I am right he is wrong, time for tea.
shakespeare 10/31/2012 5:09:18 PM Report
sorry rw.. I should have put an IA on the post to which you refer!!
sorry rw.. I should have put an IA on the post to which you refer!!
right wing 10/31/2012 5:09:51 PM Report
Wheels17
Well him and Obama have a lot in common then since Mr. Hope and Change had his dismal kick at the can.
Wheels17
Well him and Obama have a lot in common then since Mr. Hope and Change had his dismal kick at the can.
right wing 10/31/2012 5:14:01 PM Report
Grump
I don't want to disrespect my elders and suggest you are dumb so I will use the word naive...please tell me you have finally figured out that asIseeit and everson were/are one in the same.
Even shakespeare had that one figured out.
Grump
I don't want to disrespect my elders and suggest you are dumb so I will use the word naive...please tell me you have finally figured out that asIseeit and everson were/are one in the same.
Even shakespeare had that one figured out.
All Is Well 10/31/2012 5:17:05 PM Report
The discussion is what it is. Just scroll on by. If people are interested in whatever subject, so be it. Politics, in any form (or country), just happens to be in my blood. So I participate. If you are not interested in a topic or discussion, don't participate. Understand? That's the beauty of freedom to participate and not to be dictated to what I discuss or not discuss.
The discussion is what it is. Just scroll on by. If people are interested in whatever subject, so be it. Politics, in any form (or country), just happens to be in my blood. So I participate. If you are not interested in a topic or discussion, don't participate. Understand? That's the beauty of freedom to participate and not to be dictated to what I discuss or not discuss.
shakespeare 10/31/2012 5:21:26 PM Report
What do you mean "Even Shakespeare ..."
BTW it's "one AND the same" and yes, I had it from Day 1.
What do you mean "Even Shakespeare ..."
BTW it's "one AND the same" and yes, I had it from Day 1.
AceOfBass 10/31/2012 5:46:54 PM Report
Obama's Halloween
The neighbor hood kids around the White House were asked to bring their trick or treats to the President.
President Obama dressed up as the Grinch accepted all the Halloween treats and inspected them.
He then announced redistribution of the treats.
Those neighborhood kids who sat around and did nothing and did not bother to trick or treat would be getting a share of the treats.
One young treat or treater who went out and worked his butt of trick or treating felt that this was not fare.
Why should those who did not work get a share of the treats he asked? He was then labeled a Republican and given a mask of the next president of the USA Mitt Romney.
Obama's Halloween
The neighbor hood kids around the White House were asked to bring their trick or treats to the President.
President Obama dressed up as the Grinch accepted all the Halloween treats and inspected them.
He then announced redistribution of the treats.
Those neighborhood kids who sat around and did nothing and did not bother to trick or treat would be getting a share of the treats.
One young treat or treater who went out and worked his butt of trick or treating felt that this was not fare.
Why should those who did not work get a share of the treats he asked? He was then labeled a Republican and given a mask of the next president of the USA Mitt Romney.
All Is Well 10/31/2012 5:52:22 PM Report
Happened to be read a couple of news articles in which one states that a British think-tank places Canada as the sixth most prosperous country in the world, on their prosperity index. The article beside it was a report that states food bank use rose 2.4% this year, and is now 31% higher than before the 2008-2009 recession. In a typical month, food banks help 882,000 Canadians, and more than 339,000(38%) of them are kids. I guess food bank use wasn't one of the eight categories the think tank used.
Happened to be read a couple of news articles in which one states that a British think-tank places Canada as the sixth most prosperous country in the world, on their prosperity index. The article beside it was a report that states food bank use rose 2.4% this year, and is now 31% higher than before the 2008-2009 recession. In a typical month, food banks help 882,000 Canadians, and more than 339,000(38%) of them are kids. I guess food bank use wasn't one of the eight categories the think tank used.
Sunshine_banks 10/31/2012 5:53:49 PM Report
Our highways are reopened!!! Just in time for a winter storm to have them closed I am sure! Crappy weather up here in Wawa but.......We are all relieved that things are going well! Happy Halloween to you all and hope you all stay warm and safe on this night!
Our highways are reopened!!! Just in time for a winter storm to have them closed I am sure! Crappy weather up here in Wawa but.......We are all relieved that things are going well! Happy Halloween to you all and hope you all stay warm and safe on this night!
Grump 10/31/2012 5:54:53 PM Report
rw whatever you say oh wise one who is never wrong in your own mind. LMFAO
rw whatever you say oh wise one who is never wrong in your own mind. LMFAO
Wisenheimer 10/31/2012 6:05:20 PM Report
That ambulance there yet ? Grump appears to be LHAO uncontrollably.
That ambulance there yet ? Grump appears to be LHAO uncontrollably.
flyhawk25 10/31/2012 6:18:42 PM Report
My goodness.
I can't believe that Rush called Governor Christie "fat".
He will now have to incur the wrath of rw.
Shame on Rush.
Christie for President in '16!
Or the next winner of Dancing with the Stars!
And right wing for the new 'voice of reason' on Talk Radio 106 - Redneck Radio - a division of Fox and sponsored by Morons for Mitt.
My goodness.
I can't believe that Rush called Governor Christie "fat".
He will now have to incur the wrath of rw.
Shame on Rush.
Christie for President in '16!
Or the next winner of Dancing with the Stars!
And right wing for the new 'voice of reason' on Talk Radio 106 - Redneck Radio - a division of Fox and sponsored by Morons for Mitt.
right wing 10/31/2012 6:27:32 PM Report
flyhawk25
My gosh you are correct, you listened to Rush and your brain does get sucked out.
flyhawk25
My gosh you are correct, you listened to Rush and your brain does get sucked out.
AceOfBass 10/31/2012 6:30:22 PM Report
Gov.Christ Christi of New jersey is fat.The guy is a rolly polly over weight clown.
He is a bad example for weight watchers and slim fast.He makes Rob Ford look skinny.
Gov.Christ Christi of New jersey is fat.The guy is a rolly polly over weight clown.
He is a bad example for weight watchers and slim fast.He makes Rob Ford look skinny.
suprman 10/31/2012 6:37:24 PM Report
wasenshaimer and white ring are closer than two roaches on a bacon bit.
wasenshaimer and white ring are closer than two roaches on a bacon bit.
right wing 10/31/2012 6:49:11 PM Report
Superman is afraid of girls, he's worried that he'll run into the one he stole the red and blue tights from!
Superman is afraid of girls, he's worried that he'll run into the one he stole the red and blue tights from!
flyhawk25 10/31/2012 7:20:02 PM Report
Here we go again.
Another day ending. Another day punctuated by angry personal attacks from the right.
Sweet thundering whatever. Lighten up.
Could we please find a neo-con with wit and wisdom? Someone who has a sense of balance? Perhaps gentility?
This election stuff is just a pleasant intellectual diversion for many of us.
Six days to go and I have no idea who will win.
So what?
I will never change the 'minds' of the Romney camp. As I write that I fight the desire to be sarcastic.
When it is over we can have a Fall Summit and either I or right wing will make our donation.
Then it will be winter and we will have to find another reason to disagree.
Here we go again.
Another day ending. Another day punctuated by angry personal attacks from the right.
Sweet thundering whatever. Lighten up.
Could we please find a neo-con with wit and wisdom? Someone who has a sense of balance? Perhaps gentility?
This election stuff is just a pleasant intellectual diversion for many of us.
Six days to go and I have no idea who will win.
So what?
I will never change the 'minds' of the Romney camp. As I write that I fight the desire to be sarcastic.
When it is over we can have a Fall Summit and either I or right wing will make our donation.
Then it will be winter and we will have to find another reason to disagree.
right wing 10/31/2012 7:34:10 PM Report
flyhawk25
Another day ending? 7.30 p.m.
Personal attacks?
Six days to go and I have a good idea who will win, Romney.
Some of us are not afraid to make a call.
flyhawk25
Another day ending? 7.30 p.m.
Personal attacks?
Six days to go and I have a good idea who will win, Romney.
Some of us are not afraid to make a call.
Snobank 10/31/2012 7:46:46 PM Report
You know, I was thinking about the cogent arguments some of you on the other side have made and it dawned on me, you are absolutely right. I'm changing sides.
You know, I was thinking about the cogent arguments some of you on the other side have made and it dawned on me, you are absolutely right. I'm changing sides.
right wing 10/31/2012 7:51:43 PM Report
October 31st 2012
More bad news for Obama.
The Yale University Economic Model is now giving the election to Romney. This model, put together by economist Ray Fair has accurately predicted every election except two since 1916. Those two were JFK’s victory in 1960 and Bill Clinton’s victory in 1992. And there's still the University of Colorado election predictor model, which has called every race accurately since 1980. This model still shows a victory of 330 electoral votes for Governor Romney, as well as a popular vote victory.
October 31st 2012
More bad news for Obama.
The Yale University Economic Model is now giving the election to Romney. This model, put together by economist Ray Fair has accurately predicted every election except two since 1916. Those two were JFK’s victory in 1960 and Bill Clinton’s victory in 1992. And there's still the University of Colorado election predictor model, which has called every race accurately since 1980. This model still shows a victory of 330 electoral votes for Governor Romney, as well as a popular vote victory.
BIG BROTHER 10/31/2012 7:56:00 PM Report
Good to see the cement head, Gov. Christie, drop the partisan bull and give credit where it's due.
Now, every self respecting republican (Oxymoron) will have a hate on for him for being honest and dropping the 'hate Obama ball'!!! They all had to wait for the go-ahead from Rush though.
Good to see the cement head, Gov. Christie, drop the partisan bull and give credit where it's due.
Now, every self respecting republican (Oxymoron) will have a hate on for him for being honest and dropping the 'hate Obama ball'!!! They all had to wait for the go-ahead from Rush though.
right wing 10/31/2012 8:04:41 PM Report
Credit due?
What "credit", the response is a by the book for disaster relief, nothing more, nothing less.
Obama is making sure he looks squeaky clean after the ongoing Benghazi cover up.
Still means diddly, Obama is going down...huge!
Credit due?
What "credit", the response is a by the book for disaster relief, nothing more, nothing less.
Obama is making sure he looks squeaky clean after the ongoing Benghazi cover up.
Still means diddly, Obama is going down...huge!
shakespeare 10/31/2012 8:12:02 PM Report
OMG I think he was at my door "trick or treating" ... was that you suprbobby?
OMG I think he was at my door "trick or treating" ... was that you suprbobby?
BIG BROTHER 10/31/2012 8:15:58 PM Report
Makes one wonder what happened during the Katrina storm, since it's 'just by the book procedure'. Then it dawns on them....Dubya was at the helm and we're not sure he could actually read 'the book'. One more major screw-up for his legacy.
Makes one wonder what happened during the Katrina storm, since it's 'just by the book procedure'. Then it dawns on them....Dubya was at the helm and we're not sure he could actually read 'the book'. One more major screw-up for his legacy.
shakespeare 10/31/2012 8:19:50 PM Report
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/world/Obama+Christie+apparent+bromance+Romney+struggles+sidelines/7478299/story.html
I wonder if this is how the Americans are seeing it.
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/world/Obama+Christie+apparent+bromance+Romney+struggles+sidelines/7478299/story.html
I wonder if this is how the Americans are seeing it.
sweetc 10/31/2012 8:45:52 PM Report
and in local news no one cares about.... the churchill plaza jewellery store was robbed tonight with a sawed off shot gun. Nothing was taken from the store but an employee was injured and taken to hospital. Was this an actually a robbery or just an attack on an employee???
and in local news no one cares about.... the churchill plaza jewellery store was robbed tonight with a sawed off shot gun. Nothing was taken from the store but an employee was injured and taken to hospital. Was this an actually a robbery or just an attack on an employee???
BIG BROTHER 10/31/2012 8:46:11 PM Report
Bromance!!!! I don't think a one night stand qualifies as a bromance.
Bromance!!!! I don't think a one night stand qualifies as a bromance.
BIG BROTHER 10/31/2012 9:03:54 PM Report
Michael Moore guesting on Piers Morgan tonight. Watch and learn!!
Michael Moore guesting on Piers Morgan tonight. Watch and learn!!
Sam C 10/31/2012 10:36:18 PM Report
At one point I was thinking that, come November 7th, the tone of the debate will improve here. But then I realized that won't be happening; there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth from one side, and a great deal of "I told you so!" from the other.
At one point I was thinking that, come November 7th, the tone of the debate will improve here. But then I realized that won't be happening; there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth from one side, and a great deal of "I told you so!" from the other.
bluesslinger 10/31/2012 10:37:53 PM Report
Reverend Al has an ad on MSLSD where his closing remark is;
"THIS ELECTION IS NOT ABOUT OBAMA - IT'S ABOUT YO MOMMA".
No joke.
I'm sure this message is also approved by Mitt Romney.
Reverend Al has an ad on MSLSD where his closing remark is;
"THIS ELECTION IS NOT ABOUT OBAMA - IT'S ABOUT YO MOMMA".
No joke.
I'm sure this message is also approved by Mitt Romney.
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