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View Room Comments for Tuesday, Oct. 30 2012

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Zing 10/30/2012 6:18:26 AM Report

I have family in NYC who are hoping to get back to Canada ASAP. We won't know when as their hotel is without power and transportation remains halted.
Grump 10/30/2012 6:55:12 AM Report

My foreman has family in New York who he was in touch with yesterday. Other than the weather reporter maroon it was not looking good at all yesterday. I'm sure he will know more when he gets to work today.
Grace 10/30/2012 6:57:56 AM Report

Good Quacking Tuesday everyone!
We may see some of the edge of what is left of the hurricane today.
TFinn 10/30/2012 7:15:51 AM Report

Can anyone suggest a person that works on and repairs cell phones. I remember seeing an ad a while back. ...Thx
theprotector 10/30/2012 7:23:38 AM Report

carful tfinn you wouldnt want someone to clone your phone on you.
TFinn 10/30/2012 7:30:50 AM Report

theprotector 10/30/2012 7:23:38 AM

Yes ..thx ..however this person had an ad on sootoday for quite a while and a local address and phone number.
Grump 10/30/2012 7:49:53 AM Report

13 deaths in the States, flooding, snow storms and huge areas with the power out. Southern Ontario is supposed to be the hardest hit with the balance of the storm in Quebec and the Maritimes. Looks like we will be getting off fairly easy. That said keep your heads down and have a great day.
asIseeit 10/30/2012 7:56:43 AM Report

Tfinn I had my cell repaired and it almost cost me the price of a new phone.
asIseeit 10/30/2012 7:57:24 AM Report

Grump the power is off in Bracebridge and Huntsville area.
nanag 10/30/2012 8:05:18 AM Report

I am grateful to be living in good ole Sault Ste. Marie.. there may not be much excitement going on here but hey... :) that can be a good thing
asIseeit 10/30/2012 8:30:47 AM Report

nanag there is excitement you just have to make your own. There is plenty to do here hell I have got Blues thinking I am his nemesis and I can play him like a fiddle. But I am sure Blues is a good person. Probably a hoot.
SandyB 10/30/2012 8:31:51 AM Report

Sunshine_banks please post in here if you in Wawa need anything..

You are right. As I have found in my newly adopted home town of Elliot Lake, people are basically kind and can be very generous and helpful. I know there are people here in our disaster town who are getting things together to help with your disaster town..

And many on this board (even though they sound rude and grumpy at times) are just as kind and generous.

Sandy
right wing 10/30/2012 8:48:49 AM Report

I don't think there were enough shots of the swinging crane in the media last night.
On top of stupid reporters standing in knee deep water they seemed to desperately want to turn this into a worse disaster then it already was/is.
There was also a failed attempt to turn Obama into a hero as the main stream media has him dashing back to the White House.
They provided intellectual quotes made by Obama such as "Sandy is a big and powerful storm" and "this will take a long time to clean up".
TFinn 10/30/2012 8:52:56 AM Report

asIseeit 10/30/2012 7:56:43 AM

It's the glass only, and I see on the net you can get repair kits for glass with tools included ...so back to more research I guess ..!

Grump 10/30/2012 8:55:50 AM Report

rw are you jealous of my name Grump? You certainly have been trying to replace me as the village grouch. What gives? You can have the name if it will make you ease up and smile. LMAO
right wing 10/30/2012 8:59:50 AM Report

Yes, jealous.

(rolling eyes)
Sam C 10/30/2012 9:05:29 AM Report

A poster (in a story response area) questioned why Environment Canada bulletins are issued in UPPER CASE.

I forwarded that request to Environment Canada, and thought folks here would be interested in the response:

"Weather bulletins are issued in upper case because this is a World Meteorological Organization requirement. However, on our weatheroffice web site, the bulletins are shown in proper case."
Yogi1 10/30/2012 9:17:50 AM Report

How long does it take the PUC to respond to a call regarding a streetlight being out..??
I have called 3 times.. The first call was on Oct 20th...........The lady says there is a "work order" that has been placed...!!
So - how long does it take to replace a bulb............??? It has been 10 days....WOW.........
Halloween is tomorrow and children will be out collecting candy in the dark...!!!
How safe is that??????
Are they that busy that they can sacrifice childrens' safety....!!!!...????

SHAME on you PUC
right wing 10/30/2012 9:19:17 AM Report

Is it the only street light on the street?
flyhawk25 10/30/2012 9:22:24 AM Report

right wing...relax.
Governor Chris Christie of NJ said the same stuff - and thanked the president for his support and help.
Now is 'The Fattest Politician in America' just pandering to the POTUS or does he realize that this partisan bullshit needs to be put aside right now?
You might want to consider following his Republican arse into solving problems instead of sniping.
right wing 10/30/2012 9:34:01 AM Report

I'm relaxing just fine.
Got my Folgers and it's the end of the month...
This is where we see if the incoming is bigger than the outgoing.

;)
right wing 10/30/2012 9:35:10 AM Report

...and I sure am glad to see you don't name call.
Hypocrite.
cathyh 10/30/2012 9:52:11 AM Report

My gosh right wing, get a life.
bluesslinger 10/30/2012 9:54:52 AM Report

Hi eversons.

Anybody happen to see the two intrepid (ahem) reporters get totally swamped by a huge wave last night?
I would never want any harm to come to some stupid reporter standing on a beach challenging a hurricane, but to see these two get drenched and one go completely under was a lot more interesting (and just a tad bit satisfying) than another shot of the toppled crane.

By the way, Romney currently leads Obama 52% to 45% among voters who say they have already cast their ballots.
mallet 10/30/2012 10:04:24 AM Report

Spellchecker...

Would you please contact the various reporters covering the storm and give them a few more words to discribe it, they seem to be unable to come up with any new words to do that..
sweetc 10/30/2012 10:12:13 AM Report

there is an option to seeing all the news on television regarding the storm and seeing too many shots of the crane.

Turn the tv off and do something else.
T-rat 10/30/2012 10:20:59 AM Report

I usually visit this site daily, more for amusement than anything else. But it never fails to amaze me that you can count on rw and bluesslinger to continuously and repeatedly utter the same old, same old negative, critical, glass-halfful, gloom and doom comments and views about anything and everthing. Are you two a couple? That would be so appropriate since misery does love company!

Wake up some morning and try to see one positive thing in your obviously gloomy and depressing existence. It just might rid you of the dark cloud you constantly walk under.
RLE 10/30/2012 10:25:22 AM Report

When reading about or viewing news items on the Wawa disaster one thing struck me. The mayor,Linda Nowicki, is a class act. Her ability to deal with the media,while informative,straightforward and professionally imparted never crosses the line into a finger pointing exercise. To my mind, Wawa is lucky to have her as their mayor.
right wing 10/30/2012 10:29:45 AM Report

cathyh

I have one thank you and thankfully it's not yours.
right wing 10/30/2012 10:31:55 AM Report

The Rat

Now that is laughable, a left winger clicking his heels and pointing fingers about gloom and doom.
You must scroll over every other post but ours, I am flattered.
bluesslinger 10/30/2012 10:33:37 AM Report

rw's definately not my type.
Plummers crack is a turn off. (nothing personal rw)
Besides, I don't swing that way, Jane.

By the way, you can always post something that you find interesting, or scroll...unless you prefer to just complain.

As long as you have fun!
right wing 10/30/2012 10:35:18 AM Report

Hmmmmmm something positive, something positive...oh I know, only seven more days until Obama is a one hit wonder.
bluesslinger 10/30/2012 10:38:02 AM Report

bahaha
bluesslinger 10/30/2012 10:48:53 AM Report

El Presidente...?
cathyh 10/30/2012 10:48:53 AM Report

Right wing: I have one, thank you, and it's certainly not as negative and gloomy as yours seems to be. Maybe after Obama is elected you will be able to brighten up.
Brianne 10/30/2012 11:01:35 AM Report

Tfinn, i couldn't find the ad for you, but my son had gotten the kit and replaced it himself by watching videos on youtube. Apparently it's not hard to do.
Yogi1 10/30/2012 11:04:12 AM Report

To right wing:

My concern is for the safety of young children who might get injured or killed due to the neglect of the PUC in performing their jobs..!! Perhaps there was an oversight or a work order missplaced - I don't know but when it comes to children's safety perhaps you should get your head out of your neighbors butt and open your eyes and mind..!!
Thanks to Councillor Bruni for his quick responce to safety concerns. KUDOS...
right wing 10/30/2012 11:29:43 AM Report

cathyh

"Not as negative and gloomy as yours seems to be.", you state.
So your life is negative and gloomy, just not as bad as you perceive mine to be.
Now that you have made an open public statement that your life is somewhat negative and gloomy consider the following;
Perhaps it is this gloom and doom that you live with that is giving you the perception that others have gloom and doom in their lives when in reality they do not, due to your gloom and doom you are actually incapable of distinguishing if others have gloom and doom so in order to navigate in your daily reality you see everyone and everything as gloom and doom but not necessarily in that order or both gloom and doom at the same time.

Think about it....

;)
flyhawk25 10/30/2012 11:34:05 AM Report

right wing...you fell right into it.
That term is one the governor himself uses.
Other than the fact that he's a Republican I quite like the guy.
He is a leader and a doer - much like President Obama.
So I accept your apology for the "hypocrite" rap before you offer.
I am many things, but hypocrite is not one. But if it makes you feel better to sling it then fill your pants.
right wing 10/30/2012 11:34:23 AM Report

Yogi1

I get and agree with safety concerns.
What I never get are alarmist.
It is one street light I assume (and I have to assume since you did not answer my original question) on a street with many other street lights.
One street light being out suddenly equates to children being injured and killed?
Wholly crap, speaking of gloom and doom....
cathyh 10/30/2012 11:38:16 AM Report

OMG right wing, you definitely do have a problem. My life is not full of gloom and doom. You did actually do me a favor by twisting my message. I was trying to be kind when I used that wording. I'll put it this way. I have noticed from your posts that you are a very very negative person. As I said previously, maybe when Obama is reelected you will cheer up.
right wing 10/30/2012 11:42:37 AM Report

flyhawk25

Nice try.
I've been waiting for your expected response.
First it was your claim that "even Dubya's friends call him that" but nobody should disrespect Obama by using anything but his proper name.
Now you defend the fat comment.
There is a big difference somebody referring to their own shortcomings or appearances from others calling them names.
The guy probably had folks like yourself calling him fat all his life so he short circuits their pleasure by using the term himself, a typical and predictable behavior by those verbally bullied.
You lecture others on here about name calling yet you do so while trying to disguise it with a very thin veil.
Sorry hypocrite still stands.

;)
right wing 10/30/2012 11:44:05 AM Report

cathyh

Glad I did you a favor and you have "seen the light."
Now do us a favor and go into the light.
Have a good day.

;)
Sam C 10/30/2012 11:48:48 AM Report

Yogi... streetlights are a bit lower on the priority list than power outages. There is a patrol that takes care of street lights -- except when there are outages to correct -- but they don't respond to each report as it comes in. The report gets added to a list, and when the patriol crew is in that area they will take care of it... a more efficient method than having a crew bop around the city randomly.

As rw suggested, unless its the ONLY street light it isn't deemed urgent.
flyhawk25 10/30/2012 11:51:04 AM Report

right wing...I miss your point.
But there's no sense my getting upset. I just consider the source of the criticism.
It appears that I am not alone in my boredom with your negativity.
everson 10/30/2012 11:53:16 AM Report

Hi Bluesslinger I heard you are looking for me?
bluesslinger 10/30/2012 11:53:45 AM Report

rw, it's the old lefty 'do as I say, not as I do' method.
That will never change.

Oh, did I mention that Obummer's early vote lead dropped 22 points from 2008? Just thought I'd mention that.
Grace 10/30/2012 11:55:12 AM Report

RW..I'd chime in and offer my two cents you today but looks like you have things well in hand!
Carry on!
bluesslinger 10/30/2012 11:55:12 AM Report

eversons!
Two accounts eh?
Busy girl!
right wing 10/30/2012 12:00:20 PM Report

Flyhawk

I shall watch out for your "I quite like the guy." line.
Code for an insult is on the way or just freshly made.

right wing 10/30/2012 12:02:26 PM Report

Hahahahahahaha....

Bluesslinger you called it right.

AsIseeit and everson one in the same.
Now for increased entertainment we must get them posting to one another.

Hi everson/asIseeit.
right wing 10/30/2012 12:08:36 PM Report

You miss my point???

Wow I am so shocked.

LMFAO...first they tried plagiarism, then googling, then cutting and pasting...now it's negativity.
No matter what they just can't silence the truth.
Slaughtering the lefties with half my brain tied behind my back.
Big Bad Bob 10/30/2012 12:23:25 PM Report

When I read certain criticisms of President Obama and, at times, of other personalities who are not of the nitwit extreme right, I begin to wonder how finely hairs can be split. Ah well, with so-called modern progress, I suppose that the possibilities in that useless domain are infinite.
Snobank 10/30/2012 12:23:49 PM Report

Rw - You just used a rushie line about lashing down the half his brain being extruded from some orfice in his back without giving him proper attribution. Plagiarism. J'accuse. ;)
realitycheck 10/30/2012 12:54:58 PM Report

I shall watch out for your "I quite like the guy." line.

Right Wing:
I will watch for it, too, since it is obvious from the sniping at each other that you two do that the line is a crock. You are more upfront in that your dislike of flyhawk comes through loud and clear with just about every answer to him.
However, I agree with some of the other posters on here about your attitude. I know you won't want to change your handle but Grouch, since Grump is already taken, would be a good fit.
theprotector 10/30/2012 12:55:14 PM Report

right wing always was and always will be negative. He gets his jollys by trying to convince people what their opinion should be and if it differs from his he calls them a "lefty" he is a very lonely person. So don't pick on him-this site is his only social outlet and a few friends of his...
Grace 10/30/2012 12:57:19 PM Report

RW..You must be having a blast today! What do you live for ..yet again? To..
Grace 10/30/2012 1:05:05 PM Report

Okay..I have a question for the Obama fan club and a challenge. If I was an undecided voter what information could impart to me that the One is the one?
Why to vote for Obama?


RW..same assignment as part of the Romney fan club...convince me..why Romney?

Point form is fine..and no BS from any of you. Facts no fiction. Save that for CNN and Fox.
Grump 10/30/2012 1:17:08 PM Report

Hey everson ,glad to see you back as you dissappeared all of a sudden. Hope you didn't let these neo-cons get you down. I couldn't believe that in any case. Take care of yourself.
Grump 10/30/2012 1:25:13 PM Report

Grace pretty simple Obama is taking care of business, not campaigning. Mitt on the other hand is out and at it. That is where he might as well be because he wouldn't do squat for them anyway.
Grace 10/30/2012 1:28:44 PM Report

Thank you Grump
Wisenheimer 10/30/2012 2:21:42 PM Report

Everson was always more than 1 poster. None being moderately coherent. Hence the plural.
As l see it she has licked her wounds and come back for more thrashings. Perhaps emboldened by his grumpiness and the flymaster.
Wisenheimer 10/30/2012 2:24:57 PM Report

Obama's new "Jobs Bill" , Hurricane Sandy!

shakespeare 10/30/2012 2:44:02 PM Report

Oh Snobank, say it ain't so! I know that the bluesy brothers are infamous for never having an original thought, but I did think that rw had actually thought the brain behind the back thing up himself. The fact that it,too, is plagiarized leaves me even more shocked and saddened by such brazen intellectual theft (well "intellectual" may not be the correct term for its source, although Rush probably lifted it from someone himself)
Snobank 10/30/2012 3:12:31 PM Report

He seems to have been momentarily quieted, Shakespeare, but I have no doubt he'll reappear firing madly in all directions.

Sometimes I wish he'd remember how difficult it is to walk back over even a half burned bridge. (I read that line on another site but I don't know who originated it.)
Grace 10/30/2012 3:20:00 PM Report

Watch this clip.
Simpler times?
51 years later has anything really changed?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLmiOEk59n8

The left then sounds like the right now!
flyhawk25 10/30/2012 3:22:21 PM Report

Grace...good question.
I'd vote for Obama simply because I think he's done a reasonable job given a mess to start with.
Let me begin with what he's done that I disagree with.
Way back when I saw him reading Abraham Lincoln I had a sense that he planned to be the Great Conciliator.That's when I knew he was naive.
That would only have worked with moderate Republicans not the Tea Party mob in there now.
Remember at the beginning of his term when he moderated a sit-down in the garden over beer with two minor league clowns? Bullshit. Presidents don't have time for that silliness.
He bailed out the auto companies. I would have let GM and Chrysler fail and restructure - that's why the laws are there.Look what GM did - now they build more product offshore than ever.
I don't think he had much choice with the investment banks but to bail them out. But he neglected to protect the good smaller ones and small businesses.
They're fine now and I don't think they're voting Democrat at Lehman and the others.
He gave into the lobbyists to keep Gitmo open. He should have closed it by executive order and sent it to some Republican state that will never support him anyway.
Then he should have repealed most of the Homeland Security edicts which are more dangerous to democracy than any terrorists.
However he did get some of the bad guys dead. Good. That's all they understand and became symbols to the screwball Muslim radicals.
After trusting his military geniuses in Afghanistan he figured out they didn't know as much as they said so he unleashed drones and techno-warfare and saved American lives.
The economy is making a slow steady improvement - by all my research the most sustainable.
If I were to grade him I'd give him a C - up from a D two years ago.
But while I am no big fan I think he at least is not as dangerous and self-serving as Romney.
So far Mitt has given me no reason why he wants to be president except because he believes he deserves it.He'll say and do anything to get there and do and say anything to stay there for two terms.
And I'm not sure that Americans don't deserve that.I also don't know if anything short of a civil war can fix it.
Grace 10/30/2012 3:28:15 PM Report

Thanks fly..awesome answer!
right wing 10/30/2012 3:36:01 PM Report

I see my lefty fan club is alive and well.
Thank you all for your concerns.
Remember lighting strikes from the ground up a negative first turning to a positive.
Grump 10/30/2012 3:39:44 PM Report

A wise old General Manager of mine from years ago told me that you never burn a bridge if there is any other way of handling it. It was good advice and in spite of my Irish temper I do try to bite my tounge most of the time.
flyhawk25 10/30/2012 3:56:04 PM Report

right wing...not to be too uncharitable - but I think you've used up a lot of your banked good will.
To extend the science metaphor you might want to recharge your batteries for a bit and calm down.
steelworker 10/30/2012 3:56:27 PM Report

Never throw a grenade into an outhouse.
bluesslinger 10/30/2012 5:02:33 PM Report

Exodus: Inner City Blacks Fleeing Barack Obama and the Democrat-Liberal Agenda

http://tinyurl.com/9ovcqu9
Oldie Goldie 10/30/2012 5:09:23 PM Report

Blueslinger---That is only a guess about those who have already cast ballots---You don't really know until they are counted.

Some voters will tell Republican Interviewers that they voted for Romney and those same voters will tell Democratic Interviewers that they voted for Obama.

They do this to avoid confrontations with either side.
Grace 10/30/2012 5:15:05 PM Report

RW...fly gave a good answer...
Just waiting for yours!
Wicket 10/30/2012 5:18:00 PM Report

Just read a heart-warming story in the Sault Star of a woman in Wawa who opened her house to everyone, travellers, workers and those just plain tired of cleaning up... and provided them with meals. How great and generous is that, thank you Lisa Robert!!!!
Grace 10/30/2012 5:25:03 PM Report

Blues ..very interesting story.
Sure is a different viewpoint VS what we see in the main stream media

Even members of the community who do still support Obama, like Rashida Ali, admit a completely different understanding of the economy than the President does. Rashida explains, “most American people, especially people of my ethnicity, they don’t understand that people create jobs, not government.”

The “war on women, war on minorities, blacks, immigrants, gays and war anyone else who the left claims can only in their right mind, be and vote for the Democrat Party,” highlight a strategy to pit Americans against one another. Most Americans, however, do have conservative values. Even those you might think agree wholeheartedly with the government media are waking up to the liberal agenda, which is not about women, black people, or poor people--it’s about liberalism.

“Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.” –Frederick Douglass


jean-paul 10/30/2012 5:36:01 PM Report

GRUMP
You meant tongue ya rat,all your post are b.s.Quack quack quack quack quack,more to come.
right wing 10/30/2012 5:53:02 PM Report

Grace...good question.

First I'd like to thank our moderator, Grace, for posing such an important and serious question.

I'd vote for Mitt Romney simply because I think he's capable of doing an excellent job given the mess he will be left with.
Let me begin with what he's done that I agree with.
I want to state first that I never saw him reading Abraham Lincoln.
A man being successful and wealthy is not a crime and is the underlying reason that the U.S. became what it is.
The right to pursue your dreams, your happiness and to live free.
Although Mitt had been painted as the "evil" corporate ruler by the Democrats my research on him proved to be the opposite.
The man that showed up to campaign and at the debates proved to also be otherwise and not as the Democrats portrayed him.
After his first debate it became clear why the Democrats were afraid of this candidate.
He has a solid record as the 70th Governor of Massachusetts.
He was immersed in politics at an early age as he participated in the political campaigns of both his parents.
He has a Bachelor of Arts from Brigham Young, a joint Juris Doctor and Master of Business Administration from Harvard.
Unlike the popular belief that Romney was given a silver spoon he secured his own position in management consulting and in 1977 he secured a position at Bain & Company. Later serving as its chief executive officer, he helped lead the company out of financial crisis.
Romney has a solid record as a leader and problem solver....and the U.S. certainly has it's problems.

All this talk about moderate Republicans and the Tea Party mob is just that, talk, political sparing if you will.
Why I'd vote for Mitt is as much about why I would have not nor ever would vote for Obama.
When the name Barack Hussein Obama first became thrown around as a potential Presidential runner I did as I always have...researched who this guy was.
It did not take long to realize Obama had virtually zero experience.
It was obvious that folks were voting against Bush as much as they were for Obama.
Folks also voted for him because he had the chance to be the first black president, he did run a slick campaign and he was up against what I would call a weak opponent, John McCain.
Remember at the beginning of his term when he promised transparency, change and fiscal responsibility.
Well I hoped then that he meant it.
It is now four years later and Obama, leaning on a dismal record is basically asking the American people to give him a pass, four more years and they will somehow move forward?
These claims that the economy is making a slow steady improvement are just that, claims, empty hollow ones.
If I were to grade him I'd give him a D- about the same grade I gave him about a year after he started and kept on using the mess he inherited as an excuse.
Each and every president inherits a mess on some level.
It is hogwash that Mitt thinks he "deserves it" and is "self serving."
Mitt Romney certainly does need the most unappreciated job in the country by any stretch of the imagination.
If there has ever been a presidential candidate that is not pretentious it is Mitt Romney.
I don't pretend to believe that Mitt Romney is a miracle worker or has all the answers.
I do believe that Mitt Romney has the experience, the education and the record to back up his claim that he can turn things around, bringing unemployment down which in turn will bring the economy up.
I see him being a no nonsense leader. A leader that will not waste time wallowing in blaming somebody for the mess, but as his record shows, will tackle the job given to him successfully as he has proven to do time and again.
right wing 10/30/2012 5:57:41 PM Report

Sorry for the delay Grace, you knew I wouldn't let you down.
I was on the phone with my daughter in Toronto, her place of business burned to the ground at 4 a.m. this morning.

Flyhawk25

Tisk, tisk, I don't run on batteries...perpetual motion my friend.
Calm down?
Hell I'm just getting started.
Are you ready to Rrrrrrumble!
suprman 10/30/2012 5:59:14 PM Report




These two, Grace and right wing, are like two possums arguing over a dead squirrel.



right wing 10/30/2012 6:04:15 PM Report

Correction: "Mitt Romney certainly does not need"

Corrections are allowed are they not moderator Grace?
right wing 10/30/2012 6:08:58 PM Report

Hey welcome aboard suprman.
You know there is an "e" in that don't you.
Superman, one of the superheros.
One of the kookiest as he ran around in a cape and tights...and what was with changing in phone booths, like nobody could see you, they were all glass.
Of course nobody recognized that he was not mild mannered Clark because as superman he took off his glasses and slicked back his hair.
Oh ya and he could fly.
Jimssm 10/30/2012 6:17:02 PM Report

Grace...

Between Romney and Obama, I would vote Obama.

Even if you discount all of Romney's changed positions over the last few months (moving to the left), he is still an unknown quantity.

We know the businessman Romney, but we do not know how much he will be influenced by The Tea Party, the neo-cons, lobbyists, once he becomes President

With Obama, we know what we're getting.

So, I choose the devil I know.
Oldie Goldie 10/30/2012 6:36:51 PM Report

Right Wing---as usual--you take out of Mitt's History only what you want to post.

Wikipedia---your favorite source of Bios--- says that Mitt had as many failures as he had successes.

In many cases he borrowed money to invest and his successes were worth more than his losses.Seldom did Romney invest more than 20 % of the Company's net worth from his own funds without borrowing the other 80 %.

Some of the Companies that he invested in were mostly turned around by moving their businesses out of the U.S.A. for cheaper labour.

He seldom became involved in the workings of the Companies he invested in---except to be a Director of the Companies.

His claim to regain 40 Million jobs back to the U.S.A. is as bogus as you get. Most of the Companies that left the U.S.A. will not return under any of Mitt's proposed plans.

The only way to regain 40 Million jobs in the U.S.A. is to become more competetive than the Foreign Companies and that just will not happen when the Foreign Companies have such cheap labour costs.

But you stick to your guns and support Romney but remember his failures with his successes.

Romney said that he would never borrow money from any foreign country--and he mentioned China---but first he has to pay off the massive debt that the U.S.A. has from China so he will have to deal with China whether he likes it or not.
right wing 10/30/2012 6:44:18 PM Report

Oldie Goldie

Thanks for supporting and proving my assertions that Mitt is constantly portrayed as the "evil" corporate guy.
His record proves otherwise and the claims you are making proven to be false.
The media and Obama's campaign have given up on the falsehoods but hey you have at it.



right wing 10/30/2012 6:46:59 PM Report

"In many cases he borrowed money to invest and his successes were worth more than his losses.Seldom did Romney invest more than 20 % of the Company's net worth from his own funds without borrowing the other 80 %."

Hahahahahahahaha....I hate to tell you Oldie but that is simply a smart business man.

Now you see you just can't make up entertainment like this.
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 6:50:08 PM Report

Jimssm, I wouldn't go so far as to call him a devil, but I don't think you really know him. If you did, I don't think you would choose him. In fact, I don't think most of the people who voted for him would if they really put in the time to research him instead of believing everything they are spoonfed by the entertainers, educational system, and left-wing media. They should look at some of his own words in his book, his early influences, and the way he is treating our allies in favour of those that hate us.
Just Curious 10/30/2012 7:14:32 PM Report

Welcome to the right wing google,copy and paste column...I think they need to give you your own column as they did Hammertime. He faded off into the sunset soon after...Wicket,it's useless,regular news dosn't stand a chance on here anymore.Over half the posts on here are RW,and he still claims to have a job/business..:)
statusquo 10/30/2012 7:19:09 PM Report

Spelly,

I think the reason you wouldn't choose him is rooted in the fact that "Obama" is not a "good" Christian.
He is too liberal and God forbid, potentially a Muslim.
(Note the blatant contradiction in my last sentence)
I never had a preference for either Democrats or Republicans. In fact, I still believe that Richard Nixon was a very good president....and so was Bush senior.
Having said that, currently the GOP has been soiled by the utterly demented Tea Party. A collection of Christian right adherents, i.e "freaks" that frankly, scares me. These folks are completely out of their minds!
They take the Revelation literally!
Where have the intellectual, cerebral righties gone?..i.e Buckley and Will? Folks that could actually sustain a reasoned opinion and could actually persuade by their sheer acumen?
Now we have buffoons like Rush and that skank Coulter. Utterly despicable characters.
Now our neighbours to the south can potentially choose a Mormon as their next president. Have you looked into the Mormon myth ? Do you know what it is based on? It is more fantastic than the Bible and it's plagiarized derivative the Quran . It's utterly laughable.
Having said that, a homosexual black Jew would stand a better chance to become President than an atheist in the good ole U.S of soundbites.
(smiley face)


Snobank 10/30/2012 7:26:21 PM Report

Are Canadian and American interests and objectives identical? In his last post Spelly used "we" as if he was a citizen of the United States. He is not the only poster to do this, just the most recent. Posters of all leanings do lt. Should we just lower the Maple Leaf and just run up Old Glory?
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 7:27:47 PM Report

Yes, I know about Joseph Smith, Brigham Young and some of the tenets of Mormonism. I don't agree with lots of it but each to his own religion, even you atheists occasionally make a good point, if only you didn't totally denigrate someone else's view.
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 7:29:51 PM Report

Snobank, I just mentioned our allies in that post. Most of them happen to be the same.
right wing 10/30/2012 7:31:59 PM Report

Just Curious

How nice to hear from you.
Your claim, "1/2 the posts" are complete bullshit but you go with that, whatever gets you through the day.
flyhawk25 10/30/2012 7:32:01 PM Report

Snobank - let's hope not.
statusquo 10/30/2012 7:32:42 PM Report

Just Curious,

You want regular news?


Ok...I was constipated for the last three days. Today it finally happened. Halleluiah!
A triple coiler with bowl "shmears".

Seriously JC, what local news would you like having discussed?
The car break ins? ok....damn scumbags!
The Wawa flood?...ok....damn rain!
Mr "Nothing" Brian Hayes?...ok, damn voting for the ruling party.
Harper turning Canada into a giant Walmart for China?..ok...when's the next election?
Caps on environment Canada weather reports?....sizzling topic but SamC covered that...can you google "soporific"?
If you want to discuss local topics then throw me a bone.
If you like to discuss topics that are to your liking then get on facebook or come up with an original idea.
In the meantime may I suggest the scroll button.

Spellchecker 10/30/2012 7:40:56 PM Report

I haven't been able to locate the word "we" anywhere in my post. I was just responding to Jimssm's post.
statusquo 10/30/2012 7:47:14 PM Report

Fly,
Interesting topic.....I thing we in Northern Ontario have more in common with Northern Michigan than we have with Toronto.
Having said that, my cabinet post for you is still open for the event that Northern Ontario should separate and become it's own province or "Reich" as it were.
As long as I am supreme leader I am willing to assign you a ministerial position of your own choosing.
My first dictum would be open season for ducks year round.
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 7:49:02 PM Report

Snobank, you may have a point there. Maybe we should run up Old Glory. We're going down the same road, and we will get to the end of it together.
right wing 10/30/2012 7:53:41 PM Report

statusquo

I honestly wish that Obama's record during his first term in office was even half way to a stellar performance resulting in an unquestionable winning by a landslide.
Now I already know what some of my lefty friends are going to say in response to this post but I am sincere in my statement.
Instead Mr. Hope and Change can lay claim to a couple of short term downward points in unemployment numbers, Obamacare which is a nightmare and the majority of the American people don't want and he killed Bin Laden.
statusquo 10/30/2012 7:56:12 PM Report

Spelly,

You may not have used "we" per se, but "I" comes out loud and clear and repeatedly...i.e "semantics"
You're dealing with adults with more than a semblance of reading comprehension.
the "View Room" ain't Sunday school !



right wing 10/30/2012 7:59:26 PM Report

stats

Don't forget my appointment.
I believe it was Minister of Googling, B.S., negativity or whatever other tittle of the day you lefties throw at me.
Either way it would give me opportunity to work at overthrowing your dictatorship and bringing about solid morals based on good old conservative values.

;)
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 8:01:14 PM Report

Come on right wing, you know you don't believe those unemployment numbers and neither do I. They don't count the people no longer on unemployment benefits or those on less than full-time employment. Real unemployment is far higher than those numbers suggest. Our hero, Rush, called that lower unemployment number. He said they would bring it down right before the election and, lo and behold, there it was.
nanag 10/30/2012 8:04:13 PM Report

Statusquo

I slap on rubber gloves throughout the week and among other things I assist patients to have a good .. uhhmm B.M. I have to tell you I get down right excited when one of "my peeps" produces a goodly amount :)
I don't know you from a hole in the ground but I am very happy for you and your bowel.
right wing 10/30/2012 8:06:29 PM Report

Spellchecker

Oh I don't believe them, I stated that he could lay claim to it.
He can also lay claim to killing Bin Laden although very few ever saw the body.
Bin Laden was quickly disposed of at sea so as not to give a place to worship.
Pretty hard for anybody to worship Bin Laden nailed to a wooden stake out front of the world trade center memorial now wouldn't it.
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 8:06:38 PM Report

Status, your comprehension leaves something to be desired if you think anything in that post has anything to do with me thinking as an American. It concerned the way I perceive the American president and I was conveying my feelings to Jimssm, nothing more than that. Any place the word "I' was used it was not in the context of thinking of myself as American.
statusquo 10/30/2012 8:14:23 PM Report

rw,

No one, not even Jesus H. Christ himself could have turned the state of affairs around in a mere four years!
And the state of affairs will not be turned around anytime soon.
We are dealing with a world wide shift in the economic and social structure as we know it!
Obama has steadied the disintegration somewhat but there is only so much he can do. Taking into account the steadfast refusal of the extreme right to work with him on a compromise i.e Rush's statement "we want him to fail"..Obama has been fighting an uphill battle from the day he took office.
He averted a depression with the bailouts...bailouts that were started and approved by the previous Bush administration.
He has restored good will in foreign policy and has not alienated so-called allies as erroneously stated .
The economic disaster started under Bush Jr..... the ultra expensive wars in Iraq and Afghanistan started under Bush Jr....Wars that have destabilized the whole region and will haunt the U.S and us for decades to come.
The Republicans with Romney and his douchebag sidekick Ryan are just not credible for the discerning mind. The only reason they are a possibility for a win is the fact that things aren't rosy and won't be rosy in the conventional sense and they represent a different flavour. A glimmer of hope for a return to the fifties. But that ain't gonna happen..no matter whom they elect.
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 8:21:12 PM Report

Goodwill in foreign policy, excuse me while I
ROTFL.

Goodwill with whom?! Certainly not with our allies. Excuse the word "our", I would hate to have it to be once again misinterpreted.

And as far as Rush wanting Obama to fail, you with your advanced comprehensive skills should have been able to see that he meant he wanted the policies to fail because he could see where they would lead.
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 8:24:49 PM Report

Those bailouts did nothing but rob the taxpayers.
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 8:28:54 PM Report

If Britain and Israel didn't have to retain a conciliatory tone with the POTUS they would tell you how they have been alienated. And do you really think telling Putin he would have more "flexibility" when re-elected was a good idea? Putin is playing him for a sucker and having great success at it.
statusquo 10/30/2012 8:30:48 PM Report

nanag,

I applaud your enthusiasm about healthy bm's. Even Marcus Aurelius commented on them in his "Meditations".

rw, good ole fashioned conservative values?......
Hmm, lemme take a stab .......
Slavery
Class distinction
Child labour (them buggers work for cheap)
Walmart
Dames rushing home to cook dinner
Church on Sunday to repent for Child molestation
(after all...if one repents, all is forgiven)
Rape is God's will
AIDS is God's punishment
Mother Teresa was a saint
Residential Schools
Nationalism
...the only things I conserve are my veggies from my garden. The rest is bullshit.

I am half a century old... take or leave a few...but I refuse to become an asshole in my old age.
And that is why, if I was American, I would vote for Obama.


Spellchecker 10/30/2012 8:32:45 PM Report

I gotta go. All this scrapping is making me miss O'Reilly.
statusquo 10/30/2012 8:33:14 PM Report

Oh crap!


sorry folks....

I forgot.

(smiley face)

Jimssm 10/30/2012 8:40:55 PM Report

Spelly...

My point is that I know him a lot more than I know Romney. The big argument against Obama was that he was unproven. Well, now he is.

The proof is in the pudding. Unless Obama is hiding it very well, he hasn't brought all the left wing socialists into positions of power as the far right predicted. He's had 4 years to do it and it hasn't happened.

He's got a good portion of the lobbyists out of the beltway. Romney would return them to the trough, no question.

Romney has surrounded himself with many of the same people that helped GWB. How is he going to resist the pressure when they demand payback ?
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 8:48:44 PM Report

Of course he has appointed left wing socialists. How about Van Jones, the avowed communist who had to resign once his radical leanings were discovered?
right wing 10/30/2012 8:49:25 PM Report

statusquo

...and I get accused of churning out the same old shit, you sir are the master, I bow to your ability to crap in such large amounts.
Jimssm 10/30/2012 8:51:27 PM Report

So Romney supporter Gov. Chris Christie said that Obama's reaction to Sandy has been 'outstanding'.

When asked on Fox and Friends if Romney was going to visit, he responded....
“I have no idea, nor am I the least bit concerned or interested,”


Someone get that knife out of Mitt's back.



right wing 10/30/2012 8:51:46 PM Report

"He's got a good portion of the lobbyists out of the beltway"

Say what????

Yes and he lowered the deficit also, I mean while you're throwing anything you like out there.....
right wing 10/30/2012 8:55:20 PM Report

Jimssm

Tisk, tisk, shame on you taking things out of context.

"On the question of whether Mitt Romney might go to New Jersey to tour the damage with Governor Christie, he said, “I have no idea, nor am I the least bit concerned or interested. I have a job to do in New Jersey that is much bigger than presidential politics. I could care less about any of that stuff… If you think right now I give a damn about presidential politics, then you don’t know me.”
statusquo 10/30/2012 8:55:32 PM Report

rw,

I take it as a compliment.
Thank you kindly..I appreciate it.

Your faithful servant,
Dr Quo.
right wing 10/30/2012 8:56:23 PM Report

The lefties do try with the 1/2 truths.
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 8:56:31 PM Report

Jimssm, if you'd like I can google up a bevy of Obama's socialist appointees and communist sympathizers.
right wing 10/30/2012 8:57:09 PM Report

statusquo

Your welcome.
Exactly how it was meant.
Jimssm 10/30/2012 9:03:16 PM Report

Spelly....

Van Jones was a minor advisor to the CEQ, a position that didn't even merit vetting by Republicans.

It was only after Glenn Beck got on his case that he resigned. And just because Beck called him a Communist doesn't make him an 'avowed Communist'.

Do you have any other examples of left wing wackos CURRENTLY in the Obama administration ?
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 9:05:32 PM Report

Valerie Jarrett
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 9:10:12 PM Report

Why do they have to be CURRENTLY there? Perhaps the fact that he appointed them in the first place means something, no? I don't know if they are still there, I don't watch it that closely, but I can provide examples of those that were appointed.

Donald Berwick
Anita Dunn
Cass Sunstein
statusquo 10/30/2012 9:12:22 PM Report

Jim,

I have no evidence of communists in the Obama administration.
All I can say is this...

Honey Boo Boo, if she was old enough to vote would cast her vote for Obama.
On the other hand, "Snookie" is cheering for Romney.
The intellectual morass is mind-boggling.
What to do?
Jimssm 10/30/2012 9:12:51 PM Report

rw...

Christie IS touring with Obama tomorrow.

Romney did get his photo-op, though. Loading a box (probably empty) into a truck.

Sandy has to be driving both of these guys nuts. Obama wondering if his lack of being on the campaign is hurting him. Romney going crazy because Obama gets to act 'presidential'.

All the while the typical American is relieved because they get a respite from all the election BS.
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 9:13:25 PM Report

The fact that Jones is avowed means that he admits to it. It just took Beck to disclose it.
Jimssm 10/30/2012 9:14:14 PM Report

status...

You've got to love US politics....

All fluff and no substance.
Grace 10/30/2012 9:16:48 PM Report

I would like to thank everyone for participating...excellent discussion.
statusquo 10/30/2012 9:19:31 PM Report

Spelly,

you actually use Glenn Beck as a reliable source?
That is low , even for you.

The guy is listed in the dictionary right next to "Douchebag and "Giant". It would be akin to me quoting anything Sean Penn flatulences.
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 9:19:49 PM Report

Jimssm has just described politics in general. It's not limited to the United States although they do carry it to the extreme. That's why we're heavily into it here in the blue room. They're always electioneering. It's a steady stream. Loads of fun.
Jimssm 10/30/2012 9:21:30 PM Report

Spelly...

The same thing happens in Republican administrations too.

They appoint people who get vetted and later have to resign because of stupid things they say or said earlier in their lives.

They fall on their swords to protect the boss.
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 9:22:20 PM Report

Here you do again, status, with that comprehensive skill of yours. It was Jimssm who mentioned Beck, not me. It matters not, really, whether I consider him credible or not. Nothing I said infers that I consider him credible.
Jimssm 10/30/2012 9:26:05 PM Report

I believe Honey Boo Boo is really a Romney supporter.
statusquo 10/30/2012 9:32:28 PM Report

But spelly,

by now you should have clued in that I just like to irk you. After all..it's all in God's grand plan ,no?
Why you invest so much time in 'converting 'us heathens is beyond me. It's all planned in advance...so why bother?
So. Sit back and enjoy the rapture and watch me descent into hell whilst enjoying incredible bargains at Walmart. Can't save enough on ass wipes from China is what I say!
BTW, did Jesus mention China in some convoluted , interpretive way?



Spellchecker 10/30/2012 9:33:04 PM Report

Status, I hope all that gross language you spew in a majority of your posts is not construed by most of our fellow posters to be indicative of that used by most atheists. I have read some material by some atheists that is actually quite pleasant and thought provoking.
nanag 10/30/2012 9:34:16 PM Report

I am sitting here "chillin" in front of the fire.. can I say that?? Can I use chillin and fire together???? Trying to decipher 90% of what you guys are saying. I must say.. I do feel politically inferior but every once in a while you say something I "get" and maybe even agree with ..be still my heart :D
statusquo 10/30/2012 9:38:52 PM Report

Spelly,

If you want a true taste of "gross' you might want to re-read the Good Book.
It's filled with it.
(smiley face)

Don't let me google and research it. (smiley face)



Spellchecker 10/30/2012 9:39:05 PM Report

I never said anything about descending into hell. You have just made another assumption about my beliefs. It may surprise you but a belief in the Bible does not necessarily include a belief in a fiery place of eternal torment for the wicked. Don't always make assumptions based on the labels you have applied.
Oldie Goldie 10/30/2012 9:39:17 PM Report

Right Wing--- I posted as much about Romney as you did but your posting did not talk about his business failures.
You conveniently left that out.
And you only responded to 1 small part of my posting because that was all you could come back with.

Romney said it himself---Governments do not create jobs---so how does Romney expect to create 40 million new jobs---certainly not by bringing back businesses from foreign lands as he said he planned to do.

In my opinion, Romney is a big phoney.

Spellchecker 10/30/2012 9:40:50 PM Report

I also never tried to convert you and I don't believe in the rapture so cool it, will you?
right wing 10/30/2012 9:46:29 PM Report

Oldie Goldie

Romney never said anything close to what you are claiming.
Discussing anything with you is like beating a pinata a cruel and unusual punishment.

I am right you are wrong, it's time for tea.


right wing 10/30/2012 9:49:52 PM Report

Jimssm

Regarding your 10/30/2012 9:12:51 PM post.
Hey, we agree on something!
See, if you keep on butting heads eventually.....
nanag 10/30/2012 9:50:55 PM Report

Just a little milk in my tea please
right wing 10/30/2012 9:55:03 PM Report

Spellchecker

Statusquo's problem is he thinks he knows the bible but as an atheist he is closed off spiritually speaking.
He spouts off stereotypical babble but has no clue.
I, like you spellchecker, do not believe in a fiery hell.
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 9:56:39 PM Report

Mine too. I'll share with nanag. She's beginning to sound like she did when she first arrived here.
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 9:58:41 PM Report

The fiery hell of eternal torment for human beings is an invention of the novel, Dantes Inferno.
statusquo 10/30/2012 9:59:07 PM Report

spelly,

No offense but it was you that started this whining about my recipes and displeasure about my foul language.
I think I struck a nerve when your attempts at salience when quoting inane bible verses where rebutted by me.
You take things far too personally.
I would suggest to keep your religion to yourself and quit complaining about "foul" language.
World history is "foul" and perfuming it in pleasant terms isn't going to make it smell any better.
If anyone needs to cool down it ain't me.
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 10:01:52 PM Report

Okay, it's not a novel, a poem, the Divine Comedy. Not very comedic, I'd say.

Abandon all hope,
Ye who enter here.
statusquo 10/30/2012 10:04:03 PM Report

Spelly,
Dante's inferno isn't to be taken literally...like you take the Bible. It's a metaphor of the human torment. A heros journey into the abyss. In it's essence it is more salient and pertinent than any passage in the Bible i.e....a book crafted for political reasons by an oppressed people with some folksy wisdoms but not much else.
End of discussion and good night!
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 10:05:50 PM Report

Hey status, when you call someone insane because he believes something at variance to your own view it tends to strike a nerve. I do take it personally when you make it personal. How else would you expect me to take it?
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 10:08:25 PM Report

Too bad status ended the discussion. I thought we were just getting started.
nanag 10/30/2012 10:10:48 PM Report

Spellchecker

I don't mind sharing my tea with you but you slurp from far side of cup and no backwash please

Are there any cookies , scones with clotted cream and a little jam?
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 10:13:58 PM Report

What about it, right wing? Do we get dessert with that tea?
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 10:19:49 PM Report

There was no Bible verse submitted by me for at least a month when the discussion ender called me insane right out of the blue.
nanag 10/30/2012 10:23:42 PM Report

Just out of curiosity.. what do all the spouses think of all the time you folks spent yak..uh discussing politics on here? Don't they get a little fed up? Feel a little ignored?
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 10:29:24 PM Report

Not really, mine is happy I'm not bothering her while she is doing her reading. We have tended to develop some different interests over the years and get together for our mutual interests.
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 10:33:33 PM Report

If we didn't have some time at our own pursuits after almost 50 years together it would probably be somewhat smothering.
flyhawk25 10/30/2012 10:37:22 PM Report

Spelly...bingo.
That plus the fact that you married well...and your bride is a saint.
nanag 10/30/2012 10:41:37 PM Report

togetherness is great if not over done. Look at all the wives that "complain" when hubby retires and is "underfoot" all the time. A little space is good especially when mutually agreed upon :)
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 10:42:55 PM Report

Well, many thanks for that, flyhawk. I'll tell her you feel that way.
nanag 10/30/2012 10:43:48 PM Report

Well aren't all women ?? Saints that is
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 10:47:31 PM Report

Flyhawk, I think I'll leave that one for you.
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 10:51:39 PM Report

Okay then, I guess I'll have to take a stab at it. I believe I've met a few that wouldn't meet the qualifications for sainthood.
Spellchecker 10/30/2012 11:00:21 PM Report

Good night folks.
nanag 10/30/2012 11:01:16 PM Report

bahhaha well said.. I too have met a few that were less than saintly.. I of course fit into the ??? category
mayhaps I need to think on this one
Oldie Goldie 10/30/2012 11:26:12 PM Report

Right Wing I heard Romney say exactly what I posted---Governments do not create jobs---I also heard him say that he is going to offer Tax Incentives to the Businesses that left the U.S.A. to get them back.

But I guess you only hear what YOU want to hear.

I have also read a previous posting from you that said --- Governments do not create jobs---- so why are you so upset when I heard that from Romney.
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