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View Room Comments for Thursday, Oct. 25 2012

Thursday, October 25, 2012   by: The View RoomWelcome to the SooToday.com View Room. This editorial feature is for you to post comments. To comment on a specific news story please post your comment directly under the news story.
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jean-paul 10/25/2012 5:07:25 AM Report

Warm wet quack quack quack quack quack quack, morning Crace.
Grace 10/25/2012 5:08:57 AM Report

And a good Quaking Thursday to one and all
Grace 10/25/2012 5:16:05 AM Report

nanag was up late last night ...still not happy about the subject matter...poor nanag...
Poor, poor nanag...
Okay enough about nanag...let's talk Yankee!
Grace 10/25/2012 5:51:04 AM Report

Bengazzi suspect arrested.
What has happened with the guy that made that movie? Funny he was all the rage a month ago...but now the truth is the attack had nothing to do with it..but look at the damage that was done due to the false information from the One's administration and the resulting media blitz that promoted that as the cause..others made that their rallying point to cause havoc.
Can't blame this on Dubya..
RLE 10/25/2012 6:15:29 AM Report

“I’ve struggled with it myself for a long time, but I came to realize that life is that gift from God,” Mr. Mourdock said. “And even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen."
Richard Mourdock,Indiana senate candidate supported by Mitt Romney.

And Cons can support a presidential candidate that supports this type of neanderthal? WOW!
Grace 10/25/2012 6:34:32 AM Report

RLE..oh...so because of one guy's opinion under his first amendment rights and states what he believes to be true...you jump to the left and paint all republicans and the "Rom" with
agreeing with the statement.
If you are a fan of the One..do you believe everything he does? You responsable for what he says? Would be very scarry if you did!

Far as I'm concerned this is a diversionary tactic to focus away from the incredible screw up that the Obie administration has with the attack on the embacy.
Grace 10/25/2012 7:02:32 AM Report

Last two weeks...Time to put fear into the voters..Hmmm...republicans hate the black voters...Notice they never mentioned the word "shtick'" It's Yiddish by the way..

Sarah Palin's racially charged Obama remark
Palin accuses Obama of ‘shuck and jive shtick’

For those who aren't familiar with the phrase, "shuck and jive" is a racially-tinged expression. According to the user-submitted Urban Dictionary, the term "originally referred to the intentionally misleading words and actions that African-Americans would employ in order to deceive racist Euro-Americans in power, both during the period of slavery and afterwards."

As Politico points out, this isn't the first time the phrase has come up and inspired controversy. Several years ago, Andrew Cuomo, then New York's Attorney General, used the expression while campaigning for Hillary Rodham Clinton. "You can't shuck and jive at a press conference. All those moves you can make with the press don't work when you're in someone's living room."

Cuomo was promptly blasted by CNN's Roland Martin, who wrote, "'Shucking and jiving' have long been words used as a negative assessment of African Americans, along the lines of a 'foot shufflin' Negro.' In fact, I don't recall ever hearing the phrase used in reference to anyone white."

Wow! What a pile of nothing turned into a bigger pile of nothing..

Niigaanis 10/25/2012 7:29:04 AM Report

Sootoday - your poll is so out of date.

There have been artifacts recovered at scared sites all across Turtle Island that have been carbon dated to at least 17,000 years ago. Your claim that our people arrived here is luicrous at best and inciteful to the point of hatred....you must be desparate to have readers if you continually publish half truths and myths. I've seen what happens when you publish those of reports on this site. At least over a 100 comments are generated in a day.

Ole Dave Helwig taught you well.

Nothing but shoddy reporting..

and to quote one of my most favorite posters to grace this site..."Wow! What a pile of nothing turned into a bigger pile of nothing.."
Jimssm 10/25/2012 7:36:05 AM Report

Mourdock was the only Senate candidate Romney did a TV ad for.
...... and he hasn't pulled his support (or the ad) for Mourdock (yet)

As far as the Consulate (not an Embassy) attack goes...sh*t happens. Especially over there. It happened at a opportune time for Romney and of course his campaign is going to run with it. Obama would do the same thing if the situation was reversed.

Have you ever seen the defences at the American Embassy in Ottawa ? The Consulate in Benghazi was a tiny building with only 3 people present when the attacks began. The fact that it took the attackers hours to overcome so few people is a tribute to the training of those defending it.

The rest of the discussion about when Obama finally said it was a terrorist attack is just semantics and politics. Whether it gains any traction in this election remains to be seen.
Grace 10/25/2012 7:39:07 AM Report

Niigaannis...http://imnh.isu.edu/digitalatlas/geog/native/text/history.htm
Grace 10/25/2012 7:43:35 AM Report

The whole game of politics can be both frustrating and entertaining.
Everybody is selling...buy my product...mine is better..but in the end you just get what you pay for!
Jimssm 10/25/2012 8:02:58 AM Report

Colin Powell endorses Obama.
Donald Trump endorses Romney.

End of discussion.
asIseeit 10/25/2012 8:17:47 AM Report

Oh my and Trump is on your side. Talk about nuts to the nth degree. Have a good one HONK HONK HONK. God help the US of A.
Right Winger 10/25/2012 8:22:21 AM Report

So if I have to choose between Trump endorsing me or Chavez and Castro, I think I go with The Donald.
RLE 10/25/2012 8:24:42 AM Report

Grace:
Mourdock and Romney oppose abortion even in the case of rape and you think this is O.K?

Your right when you say that you get what you pay for,but why would anyone who claims to be civilized pay for that?

It's got nothing to do with supporting left or right or free speech,its got to do with caring about a woman who happens to be a victim of rape.

If you would rather support the Mourdock/Romney philosophy on this issue out of some pedantic support for a philosophy you have my sympathy.
Niigaanis 10/25/2012 8:27:09 AM Report

and to quote another favorite of mine...

Say good night Gracie.....

has not anyone told you that you should not believe everything you read on the internet?

take the time and do a proper job of researching articles before you put your foot in it.......just as I've asked Sootoday to do proper investigation before they run with a story that is rife with underlying incitefulness
Right Winger 10/25/2012 8:28:24 AM Report

RLE,

Why do you think its ok to call a Christian a neanderthal?
right wing 10/25/2012 8:30:46 AM Report

Forget all that nonsense, I'm waiting for Obama to produce the papers that Trump asked for.
I mean call Trump what you like but FIVE MILLION for a charity of Obama's choice.
How can you beat that.
If Obama wants some great headlines he should jump on that one in a heartbeat.
It would shut Trump up once and for all and give FIVE MILLION to a needy cause.
Obama would not even have to do anything except authorize the release, one of his many aides would do the leg work.
...that is unless there is a problem with the paperwork?
right wing 10/25/2012 8:33:20 AM Report

Niigaanis

Could you provide a link or source of what you are stating.
I did try and find information on the first inhabitants of Canada and came up with the same claim as the info on SooToday.
I am seriously interested.
Could you point me in the right direction.
Thanks.
asIseeit 10/25/2012 8:51:21 AM Report

right wing a nut is a nut. Put Rush, Chavez, and Trump, (Castro is harmless) in a bag, shake gently pull one out (no cheating by feeling the hair) and you still have a nut.:{0. Shake "n" flake.
itsky123 10/25/2012 8:53:12 AM Report

I might be wrong, but I believe one of the first people in Canada was the Viking, they were minning in Thunder bay.I have never been wrong, but have been mistaken a couple of times..lol
RLE 10/25/2012 8:59:23 AM Report

Right Winger: Wasn't calling a Christian a neanderthal and even you couldn't be dumb enough to call that neanderthal a Christian.
BIG BROTHER 10/25/2012 9:00:56 AM Report

Maybe he shouild offer Romney the same deal for his tax details!!
right wing 10/25/2012 9:01:38 AM Report

Five Million is five million.
An amount like that could do a world of good for a charity, does not matter what "nut" it comes from.
Jimssm 10/25/2012 9:01:48 AM Report

So is Romney going to respond to the guy offering 10 MILLION to his favourite charity if he releases his tax records ?

Obama has already laughed off Romney's (er...Trump's) offer. He said that Trump has always been jealous of him since their childhood days in Kenya.
right wing 10/25/2012 9:03:43 AM Report

Big Bro

I was waiting for that one and you are always on time, there is one more to come but lets address you first.
Simple.
Trump did not make that offer, he made the offer to Obama, plain simple.
Five million dollars.
Just Curious 10/25/2012 9:05:20 AM Report

Niigaanis must read this page every day just looking for any mention of anything to do with Indians. That's the only time she ever posts,kind of a reverse racist,as it were..:)
right wing 10/25/2012 9:10:45 AM Report

Must be nice to just laugh off FIVE MILLION dollars.
One of Obama's favorite charities is K.I.D.S., a charity that supports disadvantaged children.

This what Obama has stated in the past about this charity that he so greatly endears.

“It is time for a sense of empathy to infuse our politics in America… K.I.D.S. has spent over 20 years making this a reality. Now it is time for the rest of us to catch up. I look forward to making that happen.”

Wow! Such powerful words and now Obama can make that happen in a huge way, FIVE MILLION ways.
Just produce some paperwork, put Trump in his place.
Imagine the smiles on all of these disadvantaged children when Obama hands over FIVE MILLION.
flyhawk25 10/25/2012 9:10:52 AM Report

right wing...in case you missed it
president Obama did address Trump's goofy idea yesterday on Leno. He made a joke of how he and The Donald scrapped as kids in Kenya.
That's precisely the attention that it deserved.
A few months ago many on here were supporting Trump's run for the presidency.
The guy is a screwball millionaire who will do anything to keep his brand in the news.
But if being a rich jerk meets your criteria for president then fill your pants.
Sunshine_banks 10/25/2012 9:13:48 AM Report

The plight of National Hockey League fans hasn't been lost on U.S. President Barack Obama

During an appearance on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, Obama offered his opinion on the league's labour dispute.

"I just want to remind the owners and the players: you guys make money because you've got a whole bunch of fans out there who are working really hard. They buy tickets. They're watching on TV," Obama said. "Y'all should be able to figure this out. Get this done."

Ok my opinion of him just went up! If he could end the NHL Lock out I would vote for him if I could!!
itsky123 10/25/2012 9:15:49 AM Report

The first mines in the territory that became Canada were unquestionably ... of
mining in Canada by Europeans was in 998 A.D. when the Vikings mined bog
iron ore ... In 1857, the Williams Number 1 Well, the first in Ontario and also the
first .... In 1846, veins of silver were reported near what has now become Thunder
Bay.
right wing 10/25/2012 9:19:23 AM Report

...and there is the second one, right on time.

flyhawk25

It does not matter what anybody thinks of Trump.
The guy has publicly stated he would donate FIVE MILLION to a charity of Obama's choice, the same type of bet you and I have but just a tad shy of that amount.
Now I think you're a bit of a screwball when it comes to your left leaning beliefs but I don't let that stand in the way of my favorite charity!
No sir, they'll have your money come November 7th.
The same goes for this.
It is a win-win for Obama, he gets to shut Trump up and donate a cool FIVE MILLION to his favorite charity.

...that is unless there is something wrong with the paper work.
right wing 10/25/2012 9:25:06 AM Report

Jimssm

Have you happened to notice that Obama's campaign, and the left leaning drive by media have left the Romney tax thing alone for some time now.
It did not even come up in any of the debates...why you ask.
That is because he did release his returns.
A detailed report of Romney's 2011 tax returns, as well as an extensive summary of the Romneys' taxes over the last two decades, prepared by analysts at PriceWaterhouseCoopers.
RLE 10/25/2012 9:28:42 AM Report

Read this on-line.
Election Day will soon be here, when we go to the polls and elect a Democrat or Republican to the White House.
Afterward, why not stop at your local animal shelter and elect a DemoCAT or a RePUPlican to your house? No matter whom you choose for the White House, you can't go wrong with a furry friend.

They don't make promises they don't keep. They can't reduce the deficit or improve the economy, but what they can do is give unconditional love. -- INDEPENDENT ANIMAL ADVOCATE
Grace 10/25/2012 9:33:10 AM Report

RLE...??? What have you been smoking?
Think about this..is it fine that government tax dollars are spent to kill an innocent baby but not okay to kill or castrate the rapist?

Which act of violence is more offensive?
Who has the right to life?

Please...enlighten me.
Grump 10/25/2012 9:34:11 AM Report

rw I think your moral compass is whacked or probably quacked whacked. It's not right that you lead your posse into the hinterland like that. Anyone who defends Mitt's actions helping a business partner screw that woman out of her divorce settlement. Then denies a woman's right to decide what she will do with her body is wrong on so many levels. I don't agree with abortion but know for sure that I don't have the right to tell some woman what she can or can't do. Now for the record I'm sure as hell not perfect but at least I know when I'm off track. Now that said my favorite charity could use that 100 dollars of yours so do we have a bet or not?
right wing 10/25/2012 9:44:44 AM Report

Grump

One consistently incorrect left wing zealot to bet with is enough.
Thank you.
Grump 10/25/2012 9:47:32 AM Report

rw by the way Blues reported the price offered by Trump at 5 trillion this am. Then again he has been known to stretch and BS. LMAO
Grump 10/25/2012 9:50:12 AM Report

rw Too bad but I guess even fellows who come across as 100% right all the time have your doubts. It's okay I'll throw in an extra 100.
RLE 10/25/2012 9:55:53 AM Report

Grace: If society/government wants to castrate or kill the rapist,there will be no argument from me.

As far as your other question is concerned,until you've had a loved one raped your dealing with the hypothetical which is a whole different perspective from which to form an opinion--trust me on that one
right wing 10/25/2012 9:57:23 AM Report

Grump

I have no doubts, my bet is made, I paid up last time and should I have to I will again.

Just where are you "tossing" that hundred bucks?
Grace 10/25/2012 10:04:22 AM Report

RLE...answer the question.

So to you both have no right to life?
right wing 10/25/2012 10:05:51 AM Report

Abortion is a nasty affair.
I suspect the procedures are not what many folks think.
Take a look if you dare, and I warn you these are very graphic photos.

http://tinyurl.com/725sm7v
Grace 10/25/2012 10:06:21 AM Report

Oh..and your opinion...don't hide behind government edict
Right Winger 10/25/2012 10:12:37 AM Report

A twisters of words, the "pregnancy" was God's will, not the rape.
bluesslinger 10/25/2012 10:14:05 AM Report

The lefty reaction to the Donald's offer to the O is universal;
Why should he, Trump is just a millionaire, the offer is stupid, what about Romney, etc...they'll be pointing at GWB next.

Meanwhile, back at the OPUS - silence.

It's clear the O lied on the paperwork.
Either that, or he just doesn't care enough to give $5,000,000.00 to a deserving charity.
Which is it lefties?

Brilliant move by the Donald to back the O into a corner.

The Truth; Obama's Worst Nightmare
RLE 10/25/2012 10:17:19 AM Report

Grace:

To me I have no right to impose my opinion on another human being on this issue. It is the victim's right to choose. It is a position that someone who has never had a loved one suffer this trauma can possibly hope to understand. If you choose not to accept that, let's just say we agree to disagree because obviously I will never convince you and you will never convince me. I guess when we meet our Maker we will get the right answer
bluesslinger 10/25/2012 10:24:28 AM Report

A new Associated Press-GfK poll shows Romney has erased the O's 16-point advantage among women.

You gotta love the split screen!
Wheels17 10/25/2012 10:32:01 AM Report

So what is going on with City Council and this new by-law? It sounds like they belong in a circus. They don't seem to be talking about things to improve our city like fixing the terrible roads, updating our transit system, creating more employment oppurtunities, creating a more accessible and inclusive community and much more. I hate to sound like a broken record but they need to get out of the old world way of thinking and into the new world way of thinking.
Grace 10/25/2012 10:37:44 AM Report

RLE..now you sound just like the candidate.

right wing 10/25/2012 10:39:07 AM Report

bluesslinger

Exactly.
There is nothing to lose, show the stupid papers, collect the dough, help the kids and shut Trump up.
What could be more simple.

...that is unless there is something wrong with the paper work.
Grace 10/25/2012 10:39:08 AM Report

Wheels..does this new world include sunshine and pleasant weather?
flyhawk25 10/25/2012 10:42:37 AM Report

right wing...not to be unkind but...you did lose the last bet.
So much for being "consistently incorrect".
Grace 10/25/2012 10:45:27 AM Report

RLE let us hope that some day medical science can someday transplant the children instead of killing them.
right wing 10/25/2012 10:45:57 AM Report

flyhawk25

Yes if you had read my post you would see that I stated that I paid up last time.
right wing 10/25/2012 10:47:49 AM Report

...and you are correct flyhawk, even a lefty can get it right once in a while.

;)
right wing 10/25/2012 10:49:23 AM Report

Hey where has skipper dave been.
I trust all is well with the good skip.
Anybody have any info?
See even I care about my lefty "friends."
Wheels17 10/25/2012 10:50:28 AM Report

Not exactly what I meant, Grace. I meant about the way of thinking going on right now in City Council. Get rid of the old and bring in the new.
BIG BROTHER 10/25/2012 10:52:14 AM Report

'Trump did not make that offer, he made the offer to Obama, plain simple.'

Gotta keep it simple for some folks!! Plain and simple!
cathyh 10/25/2012 10:53:18 AM Report

By the way, Trump said he would pay 5 mil only if the papers Obama released were to his liking. As far as the republican and his take on abortion, it sounds to me like a republican, talking out of both sides of his mouth.
right wing 10/25/2012 10:53:42 AM Report

Well it's Obama we are talking about here...simple is as simple does.

;)
right wing 10/25/2012 11:02:38 AM Report

cathyh

Trump stated that the records must be complete to his satisfaction, big difference.
They are college records and passport records which should be complete, if the papers are all authentic and complete and Trump tried to back paddle again Obama wins.
Obama would shut Trump up and make him look exactly the way Obama wants him to, an idiot.
Grump 10/25/2012 11:06:10 AM Report

Dealing with you neo-cons reminds me of a red neck picnic with a greased pig chase. As Spelly would say "Yee Haw".
bluesslinger 10/25/2012 11:07:00 AM Report

What could be more simple?

...unless there's something wrong with the paperwork...
Grump 10/25/2012 11:07:55 AM Report

rw Bad news ,Trump has looked that way to anyone without rose coloured glasses for years.
Grump 10/25/2012 11:10:17 AM Report

Blueslinger Give me one good reason for the President of the USA to stoop to Trump's level and give the a** **** any credability.
Right Winger 10/25/2012 11:11:56 AM Report

to raise 5 million for a charity?
bluesslinger 10/25/2012 11:13:11 AM Report

Obama hides behind children as he calls the Rom a "bullshitter".

Classy.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-romneys-bulls_657708.html
bluesslinger 10/25/2012 11:13:53 AM Report

What Right Winger said.
Grace 10/25/2012 11:28:35 AM Report

I know what you meant wheels...was just hoping for some sunshine
asIseeit 10/25/2012 11:47:10 AM Report

The Federal Government is looking for 20,000 volunteers to work at various jobs for the government. The hours are 37.5 per week, 52 weeks a year. I am sure many seniors and students could fill the bill as being idle leads to boredom. If you are retired there is a chance to do something good for your country.
flyhawk25 10/25/2012 11:54:22 AM Report

It just struck me - what do you get if you cross a Rushite with a luddite?
A Lushite!
Do you Lushites ever get tired of making the same tired comments about the 44th president?
Trump is just another rich gas-bag looking to make himself the story.
If for no other reason than sheer pettiness I hope Mr. Obama wins this thing and in four years when he retires he just says the hell with it and calls out Trump in a public forum.
Then he calls in to Rush and Hannity live and tells them to kiss his Democratic arse.
But he won't. He's not an old vindictive fart like me.
That's why he's president and I'm stuck in this swamp with the Morons For Mitt Club.
Jimssm 10/25/2012 11:55:08 AM Report

You have to ask yourself why the Republicans are running away from Trump as fast as they can.

Nothing on Fox, Drudge...etc.
flyhawk25 10/25/2012 12:01:27 PM Report

Jimssm...just a guess.
Maybe they're allergic to hair spray and methane.
flyhawk25 10/25/2012 12:11:57 PM Report

Breaking News:
That icon of the thoughtful right wing political scene Ann Coulter has been asked by the Special Olympians to drop the term 'retard' from her vast lexicon.
Ahh...another Moron for Mitt takes one on the chin.
Lushites do what Lushites do.
Again.
Jimssm 10/25/2012 12:13:27 PM Report

I see Dubya and Cheney are now out on the campaign trail for Romney.

A sign that the campaign is not sure of a win and is willing to take the risk.
flyhawk25 10/25/2012 12:15:14 PM Report

Jimssm...does Dick still wear that cool Dr. Strangelove costume?
Jimssm 10/25/2012 12:18:42 PM Report

Trump's idea wasn't even original.

Larry Flynt offered Romney 1 Million dollars over a month ago for his tax returns.
Jimssm 10/25/2012 12:19:38 PM Report

I hear Cheney is taking Trump duck hunting.
cathyh 10/25/2012 12:23:46 PM Report

right wing: What is the "big difference"? If, if, if, and double talk, that is what the Republicans are made of.
Big Bad Bob 10/25/2012 12:24:19 PM Report

“...I'm waiting for Obama to produce the papers that Trump asked for.”
I wonder what right wing plans to do for Canada with those papers if Obama produces them.
Big Bad Bob 10/25/2012 12:24:19 PM Report

“...I'm waiting for Obama to produce the papers that Trump asked for.”
I wonder what right wing plans to do for Canada with those papers if Obama produces them.
Oldie Goldie 10/25/2012 12:32:27 PM Report

Even if Obama's papers were in order all Donald Trump has to do to weasel out of the deal is to say that the papers are not to his liking.

Since when does Donald Trump set up himself as Judge and Jury on Obama's papers ?

Obama has already shown that his papers are in order or he would not be the President.

Trump does not only want to see Obama's Birth Records but he also wants to see Obama's School Records.

Trump is out to lunch and so is everyone who supports him.

It is quite obvious to me that $ 5 million is a drop in the bucket to Trump but the Publicity is more than that to Trump if he says that Obama's papers are not to Trump's liking.

I can't believe that even Mitt Romney would support the Millionaire windbag.
flyhawk25 10/25/2012 12:37:54 PM Report

Oldie Goldie...perhaps it's because 'millionaire wind bags' stick together.
Jimssm 10/25/2012 12:39:21 PM Report

LOL ! (r-rated)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm9JpzinaRE&feature=player_detailpage
BIG BROTHER 10/25/2012 12:48:48 PM Report

'I see Dubya and Cheney are now out on the campaign trail for Romney.'

Now there's an example of WMD! Romney is really getting hard up for support!

itsky123 10/25/2012 12:55:09 PM Report

Niigaanis:
why dont you take the time and do a proper job of researching articles before you put your foot in it.......The first mines in the territory that became Canada were unquestionably ... of
mining in Canada by Europeans was in 998 A.D. when the Vikings mined bog
iron ore ... In 1857, the Williams Number 1 Well, the first in Ontario and also the
first .... In 1846, veins of silver were reported near what has now become Thunder
Bay.
Wheels17 10/25/2012 1:12:29 PM Report

asIseeit, do you have to have the link for the federal government jobs?
Grump 10/25/2012 1:20:41 PM Report

Fly congratulations you have coined a new phrase " Morons for Mitt". The truth is self evident.
Chardonnay 10/25/2012 1:31:23 PM Report

Anyone know what all the sirens are for?
bluesslinger 10/25/2012 1:49:55 PM Report

I see Slick Willy now out on the campaign trail for Obama.

A sign that the campaign is not sure of a win and is willing to take the risk.
Grace 10/25/2012 2:01:15 PM Report

RLE..let's not fight.
Starting over...Happy Quaking Thursday!
What a lovely day!
Was told it was going to get cold starting tomorrow..
I predict the closest electoral college vote in history.
Romney by 34 over Obama.

Would a close E College vote in the event of a tie trigger a recount or switch to the popular vote to decide??
bluesslinger 10/25/2012 2:02:59 PM Report

"Trump is just another rich gas-bag looking to make himself the story."

Yes, of course he is.

But why is Obummer such a nasty soul as to deny $5 million to a needy charity of his own choosing?
Is it just to spite that rich gas-bag?
It's always the children who suffer, isn't it...

I think it's because the O's Worst Nightmare is on his ass, haunting him.

bluesslinger 10/25/2012 2:13:23 PM Report

Grace, here's an interactive electoral college map where you can forcast the outcome.
In my scenario I have Romney winning 281 to 257 even without Ohio (which I do believe he will win, but I'm in a generous mood).

Have fun!


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/obama_vs_romney_create_your_own_electoral_college_map.html
bluesslinger 10/25/2012 2:17:46 PM Report

Go to http://www.realclearpolitics.com/
then go to Creat Your Own Map
Niigaanis 10/25/2012 2:30:28 PM Report

Greetings to the nay-sayers

here are two links that will help educate you. It took me all of two minutes to locate both articles.

The first is an article from Science Daily and the other, wait for it, is an article run by Fox News, can you believe it? Enjoy the read....

As well, to the one that said I lurk this board daily, sorry but I have a life and it's not as a Wal-Mart Greeter, that so many of you should explore as a possible source of income and reason to get out into the real world instead of hiding behind your screens.

http://tinyurl.com/5qabz


http://tinyurl.com/66mfdwu
lambkins 10/25/2012 2:38:57 PM Report

If Trump is so rich and righteous, why doesn't he just donate the money. PERIOD. Then he can wait a while and declare Chapter 11 for the, what, 3rd time? Idiot!
bluesslinger 10/25/2012 2:48:33 PM Report

Donald Trump has supported the following charities:

Celebrity Fight Night Foundation
Children with AIDS
David Foster Foundation
DoSomething.org
Friends of ScotlandJimmy Fund
Make A Child Smile Appeal
Make-A-Wish Foundation
Mississippi Animal Rescue League
Muhammad Ali Parkinson Center
Neurofibromatosis, Inc.
Operation Smile
Paralyzed Veterans of America
Pediatric Epilepsy Project
Raising Malawi
Reef Relief
Smile Train
St. Francis Food Pantries and Shelters
The Doe Fund
UNICEF

Causes supported:

Adoption, Fostering, Orphans, AIDS & HIV, Animals, Cancer, Children, Conservation, Environment, Family/Parent Support, Health, Homelessness, Human Rights, Hunger, Miscellaneous, Oceans, Philanthropy, Physical Challenges, Poverty, Veteran/Service Member Support



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lambkins 10/25/2012 3:03:10 PM Report

He 'donated' to those charities as part of his Apprentice Show, it was for the ratings and on behalf of his Celebrity contestants. He signed a wooden bone? Yeah, hard work. It was for ratings. You don't think he gets it all back with the ratings, tax deductions, etc.
If he was a true philanthropist, he would do it without all the hype and glory.
lambkins 10/25/2012 3:05:35 PM Report

He hasn't been in the spotlight lately. Not beauty pageant season, yet. So, he has to ride the coat tails of the Election , in case people are forgetting about him.
bluesslinger 10/25/2012 3:08:57 PM Report

All that may be true lambkins, but why won't Obama reveal his paperwork for 5 million dollars to his favorite charity?
lambkins 10/25/2012 3:09:43 PM Report

You'll have to ask him. :)
steelworker 10/25/2012 3:10:18 PM Report

Obama supports the "Get Mooshelle Some New Clothes Fund". Please give generously as they have to party with Jay-Z and Beyonce this weekend.
Just Curious 10/25/2012 3:11:17 PM Report

Niigaanis,just in case you can get past your closed mind set regarding anything Indian, I have done my 60yrs working at any number of jobs to keep food on the table for my family. When you get that much in you can tell me off,until then shut your pie-hole. I can have an opinion about anything I choose,doesn't have to be right,just my opinion so kiss off. Go find something else Indian to bitch about...Geeez...
lambkins 10/25/2012 3:13:52 PM Report

Trump is a Bully. Plain and simple. He shouts EVERYTHING. And uses his power to push people around. IMHO
Just Curious 10/25/2012 3:30:43 PM Report

Just saw the new poll on here. I would have thought it was a toss-up between an Elk or Cariboo,not a moose. Even had to go borrow a quarter to check..month-end and all,waiting for the pension cheque..LOL.
flyhawk25 10/25/2012 3:38:09 PM Report

Ahh...another negative stupid term for the First Lady. Did you find that in the 'Morons for Mitt' on-line comic book?
Why would the 44th president dignify this with a response other than that throw away joke he made on Leno's show?
He's a little busy being president and trying to win a second term.
If he wins I hope he will get all the info, show up live on whatever piece of popular pablum Trump is shilling for that day and give him a choice - either write a check on the spot or eat the documents on national Fox television.
Then I will pay for your bus fare to the event so that when it is digested and recycled you can stick in on the point of your gourd.
Sort of a Canadian homage to the S**t For Brains Award - Canadian Division of the MFM Club.
Please - don't thank me. You earned it.
steelworker 10/25/2012 3:43:35 PM Report

I don't ride on busses. First-class airfare only-much like the First Lady.
shakespeare 10/25/2012 5:08:26 PM Report

My dear departed mother had a term of absolute derision for the swaggering, belching, crass men who would have this need to behave with pathetic resentment to anyone, whom they perceived to be better than themselves. The term was "guttersnipe". If the cap fits ...
RLE 10/25/2012 5:14:36 PM Report

Grace: Just read you 2:01 post.

Offer of truce happily accepted.

Meet me in the red room tomorrow and I'll buy you a coffee.

Regarding what happens if there is a tie in the electoral vote, apparently they will contact me and I'll vote for neither of the above. Instead Right wing and left wing will alternate the presidency on a monthly basis with the one who is not president being vice president.

Seriously, in the event of a tie the House Of representative will decide on the presidency and the Senate will decide the vice presidency.(http://www.270towin.com/blog/electoral-college/what-happens-if-there-is-a-tie-in-the-electoral-college) If the House remains Republican and the Senate remains democrat it seems the USA could end up with Romney and Biden. That would be almost too cool. If your old enough to remember, it would be a reminder of when Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis were a team. They were great in public,but in private it was WWE wrestling for real
right wing 10/25/2012 5:29:26 PM Report

flyhawk25

Why does he have to wait.
Obama could produce those documents with one phone call and delegate one of his many aides to look after it, in a heart beat.
Get real.... FIVE MILLION for a charity to show some stupid paper work.
You keep on spinning for him pal.

...and

"Do you Lushites ever get tired of making the same tired comments about the 44th president?"

Holy Fu.., you're kidding, right...no, O.K. I'll say left, better.
....comments about the 44th president????
The democrats and Obama have been beating the Bush pinata to death.
One thing lefties are superior at is hypocrisy, I'll definitely give them that one.
mallet 10/25/2012 5:33:03 PM Report

Shakespeare...

Now there is a term I have not heard for many years, as one could not get any lower than the gutter.. There is also another phrase which kind of adheres to the perenial US of A politics.. Flogging a dead horse.. go figure...
right wing 10/25/2012 5:34:46 PM Report

Big Bro

Why the hell do you have an opinion on anything.
A few days ago you stated that it didn't matter.
Obama had given up because he was tired of being the supreme leader and not being recognized for it.
Obama just does not care anymore or did you rub your Obama statue and get invigorated.
No need to answer.
(you always have to instruct a lefty)

;)

right wing 10/25/2012 5:36:04 PM Report

Big Bad Bob

Why don't you post us something interesting about France.
You know, one of those long posts you are famous for that nobody gives a shit about.
BIG BROTHER 10/25/2012 5:42:10 PM Report

Nice to see a famous, highly respected Republican (oxymoron) like Colin Powell endorse 'The ONE' as President of the US. Again!!



right wing 10/25/2012 5:46:52 PM Report

Big Bro

What does it matter who endorses Obama.
According to you Obama does not care if he wins or loses.
bluesslinger 10/25/2012 5:56:30 PM Report

I just love the way a leftie will deride someone for name calling and then immediately commence to name calling - cracks me up!
Grump 10/25/2012 6:25:17 PM Report

rw your own feelings aside , how can you hang out with a pair of Mitt's morons like you do. I know you are a lot brighter than that so you must be looking for an ego booster.
flyhawk25 10/25/2012 6:25:41 PM Report

I don't recall ever calling you particularly a name.
However if you stop calling the President and Mrs. Obama names I will stop with the silly stuff.
Trust me.
In this 'debate' the issue is grace and wit as much as virulence.
Lay off the President and especially his wife or I will engage you personally until the election.
Practice some civility.
Or grow a thicker skin.
TankGirl 10/25/2012 6:27:27 PM Report

Bahahahah! I encourage everyone to watch this offer to Donald Trump if you haven't already seen it.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wlvQW7tI4aE&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Ffeature%3Dplayer_embedded%26v%3DwlvQW7tI4aE

Bahahahaha! I'm dying over here. That was amazing.

Pretty much sums up my thoughts on the Dons offer. Charity or not, he doesn't deserve to be given any power over any decisions wether it be the president or otherwise.
TankGirl 10/25/2012 6:28:37 PM Report

Woops. Take the m. out of that URL.
Grump 10/25/2012 6:30:55 PM Report

Shaky my parents were one and two removed from the UK and gutter snipe was my mother's ultimate term for the lowest of the low. My dad's was "you can beat a dead horse but it won't do you a damn bit of good". Small world.
TankGirl 10/25/2012 6:31:16 PM Report

And for the record, in Obamas shoes, I wouldn't do it either. It's the school yard equivalent of saying "see, I told you so!"
right wing 10/25/2012 6:31:37 PM Report

Grump

Hang out with who, where.
Look in the mirror, is your jaw moving?
bluesslinger 10/25/2012 6:32:37 PM Report

I'm merely making observations.
Help yourself to whatever blows your dress up!
right wing 10/25/2012 6:39:13 PM Report

TankGirl

Your link does not work.
Being a good conservative and always wanting to help my lefty friends I posted a proper link for it.
You're welcome.

http://tinyurl.com/bsj4m2v
right wing 10/25/2012 6:44:11 PM Report

TankGirl

It is FIVE MILLION dollars.
Just what is the big deal.
Trump is no favorite of mine.
Obama produces the paperwork, it is authenticated by the issuers as complete. Trump coughs over the money.
Trump does not pay and he looks like a complete fool.
Either way Obama wins.
You could not buy better media coverage and a charity could get a huge relief fund.

...that is unless there is something wrong with the paperwork.
steelworker 10/25/2012 6:49:09 PM Report

I think a snipe is a type of bird. If you want something lower you might try outhouse turkey (lots of them around here-liberally sprinkled you might say).
Spellchecker 10/25/2012 6:49:39 PM Report

Two trips to the Soo today. Saw Brianne at the Walmart McDonalds after my visit to the eye doctor.

Back to the Soo for the Thursday evening jam session at the Moose Lodge. See you there, Grandpa Ed and all you other jammers.
TankGirl 10/25/2012 6:49:58 PM Report

For me, it's a matter of integrity. Playing Donald's dumb game means everybody involved is a loser. I guess a charity would win but let's face it, Donald is obviously planning to make the donation regardless for a tax write off. And Obama likely thinks the same thing.
TankGirl 10/25/2012 6:50:53 PM Report

And thanks for fixing my link. Working on my iPad and still haven't figured everything out yet.
right wing 10/25/2012 7:00:17 PM Report

TankGirl

You're welcome.

Perhaps and I really hope Trump does, but I would not hold my breath, that is why I really believe that Obama should take him up on it.
Set aside the playing the game angle, FIVE MILLION for a charity, that is what counts.

...fun learning those things, I nearly bounced mine off the wall a dozen times...but now I like it.
right wing 10/25/2012 7:02:36 PM Report

Spellchecker

One trip through Hilton today.
Saw the boat on the corner looking like it had some paint, the same old dog walking down the side of the street and your garage door was closed.
right wing 10/25/2012 7:12:57 PM Report

Putin Doesn't Like Pussy.


NOVO OGARYOVO - President Vladimir Putin flatly rejected on Thursday Western criticism of the imprisonment of the Pussy Riot punk protest band, saying its three female members deserved their fate because they threatened the moral foundations of Russia.

Hahahahahahaha, the moral foundations of Russia?????
..... threatened by a punk band.
The cold war is really over.
flyhawk25 10/25/2012 7:46:00 PM Report

right wing..."and Trump looks like a complete fool".
I think we both know - Trump might act like a fool but annoying as I find him he could buy and sell me at least a hundred times by the morning.
He is no fool.
He understands the rule - any publicity is better than no publicity.Furthermore he is not one of Mitt's Morons.
I believe that he is one of those very rich guys like Mitt.
Neither of them are inherently evil.But they seem to lack that 'altruistic gene' that allows them to connect with the majority of us.
The poles of their dialectic are different than the majority. Like guys such as Conrad Black they really believe that they are to 'the manor born'.
I'd like to blame the American masses for buying into the myth that they could do what all of them do if they just win the lottery
But even if they won the jackpot they think is at the end of the Romney Rainbow they would never be part of the real power brokers.
They don't know how to use a salad fork or a butter knife.
Like the rockstars/super athletes and other suddenly rich folks they will never get to play golf at Augusta National because they are outsiders.
Money doesn't make you a power broker. But that and the right circle-of-friends makes you believe that you have the divine right to rule the rest of us.
It has been ever thus.
Mitt and The Donald and Lord Black just happen to be this generation's spokespeople.
steelworker 10/25/2012 8:54:24 PM Report

I don't think that Mitt or The Donald have ever been thrown in jail like Conrad (the Con)Black. Lord Pillowbiter as it were.
flyhawk25 10/25/2012 9:30:23 PM Report

You really do not get it do you?
steelworker 10/25/2012 9:45:35 PM Report

Don't care either. On another note famous ass-hat Piers Morgan may get booted back to Jolly Olde England to face phone-hacking charges, but don't wait for CNN to drop the news. Maybe he can take "the voice of our times" Connie Black with him.
shakespeare 10/25/2012 9:48:02 PM Report

fly: I think that Trump really is an idiot... totally out of touch with reality. He has money and power and has pulled some fast moves. I think that his ego has been fed too many times and you'll notice that he gloats about getting Obama to produce his birth certificate. He is an impertinent buffoon, who has no right to demand anything of the President. Can you imagine him, on the suggestion that Hilary is transgendered, offering a similar donation for her to provide proof of her gender? His fundamental foolishness (which right wing seems blind to) is that money does not give you the right to basically force others to do what you want. Like many upper class twits and I knew quite a few in the U.K., he will be courted by sychopants but will never achieve the degree of respect that he would like.
shakespeare 10/25/2012 9:52:06 PM Report

steelworker: " yesterday's papers telling yesterday's news"
I heard that months ago! BTW Black is already in the U.K. Did you see the interview where he was tormented by the BBC interviewer a couple of days ago?
steelworker 10/25/2012 10:02:48 PM Report

I hear he was looking for a small flat that resembles a jail cell.
shakespeare 10/25/2012 10:13:41 PM Report

interesting that you use the word "flat"
sweetc 10/25/2012 10:16:12 PM Report

ok I am breaking my code of silence for a moment. there appears from what my sources tell me major flooding happening in Wawa right now as we speak. the highway in both direction is now closed from Wawa North and South due to overflowing rivers and some of th residents are starting to see major flooding in their back yards basements etc.
sweetc 10/25/2012 10:36:28 PM Report

if you go on facebook and check out Wawa sell and trade you will understand what I am talking about. This is for those that are interested in local area news.
BIG BROTHER 10/25/2012 10:40:37 PM Report

Obama's kicking butt right now. Romneymania has been discovered to be flatulence coming from the midwest pastures, brought on by overfed cows.

Obama, in a very unpresidential way, has called Romney a 'bullshitter' in front of a group of kids. The kids apparently agree!!

He doesn't sound like someone who cares if he gets the job or not. He is what he is!! Not a flakey faker, trying to buy the election. "If you don't like me, wait till you get a load of the alternative!"
bluesslinger 10/25/2012 10:55:07 PM Report

Obama, in a very unpresidential way, has called Romney a 'bullshitter' in front of a group of kids.

Totally false.
shakespeare 10/25/2012 10:57:24 PM Report

I, for one, have been keeping in touch with the Wawa flooding, sweetc. A friend just returned from that area, just before the highway closure. Kudos to President Obama for mentioning, "Shame about the Wawa flooding" in his mid-west speeches!
steelworker 10/25/2012 11:12:00 PM Report

Honey-Bo-Bo is going to send in a couple of drones to monitor the flooding.
Brianne 10/26/2012 12:22:05 AM Report

Was great to see you Mr. and Mrs. Spelly !!!!!!

Hopefully you can see after those nasty eye drops !
Spellchecker 10/26/2012 10:24:05 AM Report

I've just peered into yesterday's archive and I see right wing has paid a visit to our giant metropolis. Too bad the garage door was closed, right wing. I just got my VW back from my grandson and it is all polished up behind that door looking real pretty. Probably won't be for long though. You must pay us a visit some time when you are passing through.
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