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jean-paul 10/10/2012 5:08:14 AM Report
Hey quack quack quack quack,more quacks to follow quack quack.
Hey quack quack quack quack,more quacks to follow quack quack.
RLE 10/10/2012 5:56:32 AM Report
Now that jon pall has ranted, may we have comments from the normal folk? Crack! Crack!
Now that jon pall has ranted, may we have comments from the normal folk? Crack! Crack!
Grump 10/10/2012 6:48:20 AM Report
Good morning everyone, looks like another nice, wet fall day on the way. Mallet good post last evening, I was also thinking along those lines. That said great minds think alike and fools seldom differ. LMAO. Have a great day everyone.
Good morning everyone, looks like another nice, wet fall day on the way. Mallet good post last evening, I was also thinking along those lines. That said great minds think alike and fools seldom differ. LMAO. Have a great day everyone.
Grace 10/10/2012 6:52:40 AM Report
Watching CNN this morning that the reports that came out from the attacks on the embacy were false on how things went down...then they jump to how polls are not accurate and mislead the public. Amazing how upset the super dem reporter is that the pols now favour Romney!
Best part is how positive he is that Biden will wipe the floor with Ryan.
Same guy last week predicted the One was going to dominate the debate!
Watching CNN this morning that the reports that came out from the attacks on the embacy were false on how things went down...then they jump to how polls are not accurate and mislead the public. Amazing how upset the super dem reporter is that the pols now favour Romney!
Best part is how positive he is that Biden will wipe the floor with Ryan.
Same guy last week predicted the One was going to dominate the debate!
jean-paul 10/10/2012 7:41:13 AM Report
Malet,s question was,why does he/she irritate you so much,answer is because I call B.S as I see them,truth hurts.
Malet,s question was,why does he/she irritate you so much,answer is because I call B.S as I see them,truth hurts.
flyhawk25 10/10/2012 7:42:15 AM Report
Grace...it is my experience that CNN has a nice logo but no credibility.
Proof? They think Wolf Blitzer is a journalist.
Grace...it is my experience that CNN has a nice logo but no credibility.
Proof? They think Wolf Blitzer is a journalist.
statusquo 10/10/2012 7:50:28 AM Report
I would think that this old/new then new again catch phrase "wiping the floor" is getting a little stale.
As for the accuracy of it springing back into the public vernacular I really don't think Romney wiped anything other than the unmentionable on the debate I watched last week.
Granted, Obama looked tired and annoyed , but then again, who wouldn't be?
Romney "looked" good, smiled a lot and last but not least looked into the camera more often. Well rehearsed , superficial gestures no doubt drilled into him ad nauseam.
But if one did really....I mean "really" listen to what Romney was actually saying, i.e
empty words and promising that he will talk to people. The weaseling out of countering Obama when trying to explain the similarities of healthcare in Massachusetts and "Obama Care"..etc.
On Afghanistan and the Middle East, he said in one of his speeches, "I will evaluate conditions on the ground and weigh the best advice of our military commanders." ( Now that is a mouth-full of nothing!)
Ergo with naming tax loopholes and deductions he would eliminate, but he won't tell you an actual plan, but here again....he will "talk" to people.
I can't wait for the next debate on foreign policy. No doubt he will smile plenty and proclaim that water is wet. And the neo cons will lap it up.
Romney will cut domestic spending to the bone, give tax cuts to millionaires, and raise military spending . How that plan will balance the budget, well...he will talk to people.....
Cutting spending on infrastructure or education is "socialism" but giving billions worth of defense contracts to Northrop Grumman or General Dynamics is good ole' American corporate welfare and if the debt goes further in the tank that'd be called "forward thinking" and dare I say.... "Reaganesque" .
I would think that this old/new then new again catch phrase "wiping the floor" is getting a little stale.
As for the accuracy of it springing back into the public vernacular I really don't think Romney wiped anything other than the unmentionable on the debate I watched last week.
Granted, Obama looked tired and annoyed , but then again, who wouldn't be?
Romney "looked" good, smiled a lot and last but not least looked into the camera more often. Well rehearsed , superficial gestures no doubt drilled into him ad nauseam.
But if one did really....I mean "really" listen to what Romney was actually saying, i.e
empty words and promising that he will talk to people. The weaseling out of countering Obama when trying to explain the similarities of healthcare in Massachusetts and "Obama Care"..etc.
On Afghanistan and the Middle East, he said in one of his speeches, "I will evaluate conditions on the ground and weigh the best advice of our military commanders." ( Now that is a mouth-full of nothing!)
Ergo with naming tax loopholes and deductions he would eliminate, but he won't tell you an actual plan, but here again....he will "talk" to people.
I can't wait for the next debate on foreign policy. No doubt he will smile plenty and proclaim that water is wet. And the neo cons will lap it up.
Romney will cut domestic spending to the bone, give tax cuts to millionaires, and raise military spending . How that plan will balance the budget, well...he will talk to people.....
Cutting spending on infrastructure or education is "socialism" but giving billions worth of defense contracts to Northrop Grumman or General Dynamics is good ole' American corporate welfare and if the debt goes further in the tank that'd be called "forward thinking" and dare I say.... "Reaganesque" .
RLE 10/10/2012 7:55:36 AM Report
Grace: Predictions on U.S. Presidential election
It will either be won by Obama or Romney
OR
To put it another way it will be won by The "One" or "The other one"
The loser will suggest that there was something crooked about the result.
Rush Limbaugh or Chris Mathews will have their head explode, depending on the result.
The day after election the sun will rise in the east and set in the west just as it has been wont* to do since the beginning of time.
RLE will post final predictions on Nov. 7th
Finally, perhaps the level of civility will increase on this site
*Spelly will congratulate me for the correct use of the word "wont," mamma will serve more pie and life will be good
Grace: Predictions on U.S. Presidential election
It will either be won by Obama or Romney
OR
To put it another way it will be won by The "One" or "The other one"
The loser will suggest that there was something crooked about the result.
Rush Limbaugh or Chris Mathews will have their head explode, depending on the result.
The day after election the sun will rise in the east and set in the west just as it has been wont* to do since the beginning of time.
RLE will post final predictions on Nov. 7th
Finally, perhaps the level of civility will increase on this site
*Spelly will congratulate me for the correct use of the word "wont," mamma will serve more pie and life will be good
flyhawk25 10/10/2012 7:56:14 AM Report
SQ...Think Romney will ever say
"Privatize for profits; socialize for bail-outs"?
SQ...Think Romney will ever say
"Privatize for profits; socialize for bail-outs"?
flyhawk25 10/10/2012 8:35:35 AM Report
One sure sign that the US economy is improving - Wall Street traders' salaries increased 12% in the past two years.
Ahh...good old free enterprise.
One sure sign that the US economy is improving - Wall Street traders' salaries increased 12% in the past two years.
Ahh...good old free enterprise.
right wing 10/10/2012 8:48:57 AM Report
statusquo
...and how is "I'll talk to the people" any different from "hope and change".
Talk about your re-gifting.... Obama is saying the exact same words he said four years ago, only adding that he needs four more years.
I did listen to the debate very carefully.
Is Romney going to wave a magic wand, no, but I put more stock in his ability to turn the economy around based on his experience and record than Mr. give me four more years.
statusquo
...and how is "I'll talk to the people" any different from "hope and change".
Talk about your re-gifting.... Obama is saying the exact same words he said four years ago, only adding that he needs four more years.
I did listen to the debate very carefully.
Is Romney going to wave a magic wand, no, but I put more stock in his ability to turn the economy around based on his experience and record than Mr. give me four more years.
Right Winger 10/10/2012 9:02:34 AM Report
Sesameas Street has told Obama to leave them out of his ads.
Obama's presidency and campaign focus too much on social programs and not on the economy. Good thing if he gets re-elected since more an more people will need his social programs as jobs disappear. Then he can spend another 4 years ignoring the economy. Pity the person who would have to clean up that scary mess. Heck the 4 years will be bad enough for Romney to clean up.
Sesameas Street has told Obama to leave them out of his ads.
Obama's presidency and campaign focus too much on social programs and not on the economy. Good thing if he gets re-elected since more an more people will need his social programs as jobs disappear. Then he can spend another 4 years ignoring the economy. Pity the person who would have to clean up that scary mess. Heck the 4 years will be bad enough for Romney to clean up.
theprotector 10/10/2012 9:07:57 AM Report
yeah but they had to come out with an ad that the repubs could understand!
yeah but they had to come out with an ad that the repubs could understand!
flyhawk25 10/10/2012 9:09:38 AM Report
right wing...I hate to pee on your pumps but the US economy is improving.
The president can only propose fiscal plans. The House and Senate enact.
The president does have a more direct influence on foreign policy but still needs co-operation for funding unless the money is in the budget.
I think Obama's biggest failure is his fixation with being The Great Conciliator.
Abe Lincoln pulled that one off but as much as the president admires Honest Abe he ain't him.
right wing...I hate to pee on your pumps but the US economy is improving.
The president can only propose fiscal plans. The House and Senate enact.
The president does have a more direct influence on foreign policy but still needs co-operation for funding unless the money is in the budget.
I think Obama's biggest failure is his fixation with being The Great Conciliator.
Abe Lincoln pulled that one off but as much as the president admires Honest Abe he ain't him.
right wing 10/10/2012 9:15:14 AM Report
flyhawk25
The U.S. economy is improving?????
You should alert the U.S. media to that fact flyhawk....or are you still trying to hang a hat on that false unemployment number.
There have been more excuses made for this President than that last peanut (one term) farmer.
flyhawk25
The U.S. economy is improving?????
You should alert the U.S. media to that fact flyhawk....or are you still trying to hang a hat on that false unemployment number.
There have been more excuses made for this President than that last peanut (one term) farmer.
Spellchecker 10/10/2012 9:27:16 AM Report
Congratulations, RLE*. Mrs. RLE, did you see that? I think he deserves a whole favourite pie.
Congratulations, RLE*. Mrs. RLE, did you see that? I think he deserves a whole favourite pie.
Big Bad Bob 10/10/2012 9:34:08 AM Report
Once again for the record, it is the US electorate who will decide who is to be President starting next January and the rest of the world, including Canada, will simply have to live with him whoever he happens to be.
Certain Americans in the past have been known not to like the Canadian electorate’s choice of leaders, but that’s also just the way it is.
Once again for the record, it is the US electorate who will decide who is to be President starting next January and the rest of the world, including Canada, will simply have to live with him whoever he happens to be.
Certain Americans in the past have been known not to like the Canadian electorate’s choice of leaders, but that’s also just the way it is.
maryanne 10/10/2012 9:40:31 AM Report
I watched the segment on the cut of funding for welfare recipients at last night's council meeting with utter disgust. Not because of the funding cut, but because of the rudeness of the mayor towards Councillor Frank Fata and her unsympathetic attitude towards landlords. She has been the worst mayor that this city has ever had and I surely hope that this is her last term as mayor.
Councillor Fata spoke on behalf of landlords who are the REAL victims of a lot of welfare recipients. These very victims who Mayor Amoroso has no sympathy for are the very people who are paying the taxes to pay for her wages and the wages of the rest of council. These victims are ACTUALLY contributing to society unlike welfare recipients.
I have seen first hand how these PROTECTED welfare recipients have damaged and trashed houses, not paid rent, how landlords have not been able to evict them without paying a lot of money going through the tribunal system which cost a lot of money, and a lot of paperwork, having to hire lawyers, having to take time off to attend the tribunal, spend thousands of dollars to make repairs to their damaged properties and never getting a cent back for damages, unpaid rent, lost wages, legal fees, filing fees for eviction, sheriff's fees, etc. Why doesn't the system pay these hard working, tax paying landlords? There are very few truly vulnerable welfare recipents, very few disabled welfare recipients who are unable to earn a wage, in comparison to the overall number of these dishonest and unlawful citizens who we should be ashamed of having in this community.
The real victims are the Landlords!
I have seen these welfare recipients have their liquor and beer delivered to their door, they have been able to have a few pets who they have to feed, smoke a pack a day, yet they have no money to pay their rent.
After getting evicted from one house, they start all over again at the next -not paying their rent, damaging the property, etc. They know the broken system, and how well it works for them.
The only councillor who is speaking the truth and has the GUTS to speak is Councillor Frank Fata and I commend him for this. Mayor Amoroso has no right to try stopping this passionate Councillor from telling citizens of this city what is really going on and who their hard working tax dollars are going to.
Yes, Councillor Fata is absolutely correct - IT IS A BROKEN SYSTEM, and throwing our hard earned money is not the answer. Perhaps this is the reason why the Provincial Government is cutting the funds. I hope that this government comes up with the answer to get these people off our payroll and actually FORCE them to contribute to society - the society of taxpayers like hard working, tax paying, contributing people like landlords who have worked hard in order to afford to have a rental property and pay their taxes!!
I watched the segment on the cut of funding for welfare recipients at last night's council meeting with utter disgust. Not because of the funding cut, but because of the rudeness of the mayor towards Councillor Frank Fata and her unsympathetic attitude towards landlords. She has been the worst mayor that this city has ever had and I surely hope that this is her last term as mayor.
Councillor Fata spoke on behalf of landlords who are the REAL victims of a lot of welfare recipients. These very victims who Mayor Amoroso has no sympathy for are the very people who are paying the taxes to pay for her wages and the wages of the rest of council. These victims are ACTUALLY contributing to society unlike welfare recipients.
I have seen first hand how these PROTECTED welfare recipients have damaged and trashed houses, not paid rent, how landlords have not been able to evict them without paying a lot of money going through the tribunal system which cost a lot of money, and a lot of paperwork, having to hire lawyers, having to take time off to attend the tribunal, spend thousands of dollars to make repairs to their damaged properties and never getting a cent back for damages, unpaid rent, lost wages, legal fees, filing fees for eviction, sheriff's fees, etc. Why doesn't the system pay these hard working, tax paying landlords? There are very few truly vulnerable welfare recipents, very few disabled welfare recipients who are unable to earn a wage, in comparison to the overall number of these dishonest and unlawful citizens who we should be ashamed of having in this community.
The real victims are the Landlords!
I have seen these welfare recipients have their liquor and beer delivered to their door, they have been able to have a few pets who they have to feed, smoke a pack a day, yet they have no money to pay their rent.
After getting evicted from one house, they start all over again at the next -not paying their rent, damaging the property, etc. They know the broken system, and how well it works for them.
The only councillor who is speaking the truth and has the GUTS to speak is Councillor Frank Fata and I commend him for this. Mayor Amoroso has no right to try stopping this passionate Councillor from telling citizens of this city what is really going on and who their hard working tax dollars are going to.
Yes, Councillor Fata is absolutely correct - IT IS A BROKEN SYSTEM, and throwing our hard earned money is not the answer. Perhaps this is the reason why the Provincial Government is cutting the funds. I hope that this government comes up with the answer to get these people off our payroll and actually FORCE them to contribute to society - the society of taxpayers like hard working, tax paying, contributing people like landlords who have worked hard in order to afford to have a rental property and pay their taxes!!
bluesslinger 10/10/2012 9:55:55 AM Report
The lefties here are still in shock that Obama had an 'emperor has no clothes moment' in that debate that's a week old! They just can't let it go. The lefties on MSNBCLSD are gone overboard with the yelling and ranting about the debate. Funny!
Obama showed America just how cool he is - he can be an empty suit and still have no clothes. Magical!
AND
That stupid Big Bird attack ad from the WH is priceless. I hope they never take it down, it shows how out of touch and silly Obama really is.
Did I mention that Romney is now leading in Ohio, with PA, WI and MI now in play?
Bye bye Bobo...
Have a great day!
The lefties here are still in shock that Obama had an 'emperor has no clothes moment' in that debate that's a week old! They just can't let it go. The lefties on MSNBCLSD are gone overboard with the yelling and ranting about the debate. Funny!
Obama showed America just how cool he is - he can be an empty suit and still have no clothes. Magical!
AND
That stupid Big Bird attack ad from the WH is priceless. I hope they never take it down, it shows how out of touch and silly Obama really is.
Did I mention that Romney is now leading in Ohio, with PA, WI and MI now in play?
Bye bye Bobo...
Have a great day!
Just Curious 10/10/2012 9:56:25 AM Report
Judging from maryanne's response you would have to assume she is a landlord.
Granted there are a fair amount of losers on the dole but to paint them all that way as Frank did is unfair to the extreme.Frank to often just opens his mouth and lets out a lot of hot air without any real thought behind it.Landlords are out to make money,period,and to judge by the high rents in a low income town,are doing quite well at it. When I moved out of my apartment to move south the rent went up $300 without even a paint job. Yeah, my heart pumps P!#@ for landlords...:)
Judging from maryanne's response you would have to assume she is a landlord.
Granted there are a fair amount of losers on the dole but to paint them all that way as Frank did is unfair to the extreme.Frank to often just opens his mouth and lets out a lot of hot air without any real thought behind it.Landlords are out to make money,period,and to judge by the high rents in a low income town,are doing quite well at it. When I moved out of my apartment to move south the rent went up $300 without even a paint job. Yeah, my heart pumps P!#@ for landlords...:)
maryanne 10/10/2012 10:34:15 AM Report
Just Curious,
I am not a landlord and do not desire to be one. I have friends who are landlords and hear their frustrations all the time.
They tell me that after paying taxes, eviction fees, no rent for months, there is no money in rentals. Only when you get decent people renting, do you make money. Decent people who want to rent in this community are hard to come by. Many landlords have put their rentals up for sale because of these welfare recipients who are protected by our broken system.
I don't paint all welfare recipients with the same brush, but I can tell you that the majority can be painted with the same brush.
Councillor Fata knows what he is talking about and is passionate about this community and trying to make it a better place for all, especially honest, law abiding people.
I wish that all councillors were like him. This would be a better community.
Just Curious,
I am not a landlord and do not desire to be one. I have friends who are landlords and hear their frustrations all the time.
They tell me that after paying taxes, eviction fees, no rent for months, there is no money in rentals. Only when you get decent people renting, do you make money. Decent people who want to rent in this community are hard to come by. Many landlords have put their rentals up for sale because of these welfare recipients who are protected by our broken system.
I don't paint all welfare recipients with the same brush, but I can tell you that the majority can be painted with the same brush.
Councillor Fata knows what he is talking about and is passionate about this community and trying to make it a better place for all, especially honest, law abiding people.
I wish that all councillors were like him. This would be a better community.
TFinn 10/10/2012 10:36:29 AM Report
theprotector 10/9/2012 2:33:53 PM
Sorry can’t agree with your trend of thinking, otherwise why have any lock up facilities. Nobody said it doesn’t cost more to have a safer society. Having said that, we ..the non criminals, want and deserve a safer society, and if it costs more then we have to deal with it. We will always have crime, that goes without saying, but we have to try and deter crime in general, if you can stop it at the onset, then we may have some positive results in the future. We do pay more if there is crime, anyway eg: higher insurance costs, and if you were ever a victim you have money out of your own pockets to, repair or replace etc or what ever. Just saying, crime can’t be left unchecked and there has to be repercussions for those who want to break the laws, otherwise there would be anarchy.
theprotector 10/9/2012 2:33:53 PM
Sorry can’t agree with your trend of thinking, otherwise why have any lock up facilities. Nobody said it doesn’t cost more to have a safer society. Having said that, we ..the non criminals, want and deserve a safer society, and if it costs more then we have to deal with it. We will always have crime, that goes without saying, but we have to try and deter crime in general, if you can stop it at the onset, then we may have some positive results in the future. We do pay more if there is crime, anyway eg: higher insurance costs, and if you were ever a victim you have money out of your own pockets to, repair or replace etc or what ever. Just saying, crime can’t be left unchecked and there has to be repercussions for those who want to break the laws, otherwise there would be anarchy.
Right Winger 10/10/2012 10:50:38 AM Report
It is a non-proift organization with no permanent gains, just permanent loss.
It is a non-proift organization with no permanent gains, just permanent loss.
25miller 10/10/2012 11:36:55 AM Report
Just Curious is still out in left field I see..Never has any logic behind his/her statements as always..
Just Curious is still out in left field I see..Never has any logic behind his/her statements as always..
flyhawk25 10/10/2012 11:41:49 AM Report
right wing..."false unemployment numbers...".
It took you a while to bang the Rush/Hannity drum but it finally happened.
The Bureau of Labor statistics are fool-proof.50,000 people surveyed and everyone working in the place is an economist. They are not appointed at the whim of any administration and pride themselves in being neutral nerdy number crunchers.
So spin away.
Things are slowly recovering as they must to be sustainable.
This thing is not close to being over.
right wing..."false unemployment numbers...".
It took you a while to bang the Rush/Hannity drum but it finally happened.
The Bureau of Labor statistics are fool-proof.50,000 people surveyed and everyone working in the place is an economist. They are not appointed at the whim of any administration and pride themselves in being neutral nerdy number crunchers.
So spin away.
Things are slowly recovering as they must to be sustainable.
This thing is not close to being over.
Right Winger 10/10/2012 1:08:24 PM Report
I am not going to get into in on here. You know why and you are trying to stir the pot. I will not take your bait.
I am not going to get into in on here. You know why and you are trying to stir the pot. I will not take your bait.
cathyh 10/10/2012 1:28:12 PM Report
Right wing: Okay, I was just wondering because I really don't know why.
Right wing: Okay, I was just wondering because I really don't know why.
fatafr 10/10/2012 2:07:57 PM Report
A question was asked last night at City Council to the Commissioner of Social Services, Kim Streich-Poser, as to her thoughts on how many Saultites in the City might be part of the working poor. She had no answer. I would hazard a guess and say that it is, at least, twice as many as are on welfare & ODSP, and perhaps more (over 20%). But these people continue working, raising their family the best they can, but, accomplishing this without a welfare cheque coming in every week. These working poor are true victims of the system and of our unstable economy.
Now, I agree that everyone on welfare is not a lazy, good for nothing person, avoiding work at all costs. But many are and they abuse the system we currently have very, very well, and in some cases, for many years. And why can they do it; because the system we have allows them to. There is not enough accountability for the recipients' actions and in-actions.
Now, in another situation, a person collecting EI has a specified period that he can collect and then he's kicked off. But, these people worked and paid into it, to receive EI and then they're told their time is up and they're done. Welfare has the luxury of not having these stringent rules. Maybe it's time it did.
Welfare is a broken system. It can't continue on its current path. The welfare staff that dole out the taxpayers' dollars work with the system that pays them a very good salary. I don't think they will play a big part in solving the problem though they apparently have employment counsellors working closely with the employable, welfare recipients, trying to get them off the system.
Taxpayers have to start getting involved. Call the welfare hotline if you know someone who is scamming the system. They are out there,such as those collecting a welfare cheque and working at jobs for cash money. Combine the two income sources and they live better than, at least, the working poor. I've also been told that vacant homes and apartments are, allegedly, being used, fraudulently, as drop off points for welfare cheques. If this is true, there should be "zero" tolerance for this. Most definitely, zero tolerance !!!
Landlords also have to deal with welfare recipients and they have many horror stories that they can share with you. Non-payment of rent, sometimes in the thousands of dollars, damage to the residence is very common, paying for eviction procedures and finally paying thousands to repair the apartments and homes. Then we complain that there isn't enough affordable housing in this City.
Yes, I strongly believe the system is broken, but, unfortunately, more time and energy is spent trying to bend over backwards to find the money from various sources, such as the United Way, then there is to try and get the able-bodied and fraudulent welfare recipients off the system and into the world of self-sufficiency.
A question was asked last night at City Council to the Commissioner of Social Services, Kim Streich-Poser, as to her thoughts on how many Saultites in the City might be part of the working poor. She had no answer. I would hazard a guess and say that it is, at least, twice as many as are on welfare & ODSP, and perhaps more (over 20%). But these people continue working, raising their family the best they can, but, accomplishing this without a welfare cheque coming in every week. These working poor are true victims of the system and of our unstable economy.
Now, I agree that everyone on welfare is not a lazy, good for nothing person, avoiding work at all costs. But many are and they abuse the system we currently have very, very well, and in some cases, for many years. And why can they do it; because the system we have allows them to. There is not enough accountability for the recipients' actions and in-actions.
Now, in another situation, a person collecting EI has a specified period that he can collect and then he's kicked off. But, these people worked and paid into it, to receive EI and then they're told their time is up and they're done. Welfare has the luxury of not having these stringent rules. Maybe it's time it did.
Welfare is a broken system. It can't continue on its current path. The welfare staff that dole out the taxpayers' dollars work with the system that pays them a very good salary. I don't think they will play a big part in solving the problem though they apparently have employment counsellors working closely with the employable, welfare recipients, trying to get them off the system.
Taxpayers have to start getting involved. Call the welfare hotline if you know someone who is scamming the system. They are out there,such as those collecting a welfare cheque and working at jobs for cash money. Combine the two income sources and they live better than, at least, the working poor. I've also been told that vacant homes and apartments are, allegedly, being used, fraudulently, as drop off points for welfare cheques. If this is true, there should be "zero" tolerance for this. Most definitely, zero tolerance !!!
Landlords also have to deal with welfare recipients and they have many horror stories that they can share with you. Non-payment of rent, sometimes in the thousands of dollars, damage to the residence is very common, paying for eviction procedures and finally paying thousands to repair the apartments and homes. Then we complain that there isn't enough affordable housing in this City.
Yes, I strongly believe the system is broken, but, unfortunately, more time and energy is spent trying to bend over backwards to find the money from various sources, such as the United Way, then there is to try and get the able-bodied and fraudulent welfare recipients off the system and into the world of self-sufficiency.
old-cat33 10/10/2012 2:08:53 PM Report
To Days Poll: Flu Shot 62 YES
124 NO
I hope the ones who voted NO get so sick that they bruise their eye lids throwing up...LOL..
A Lady Landlord makes a better one because I could always smooth them over. (when I was younger)
To Days Poll: Flu Shot 62 YES
124 NO
I hope the ones who voted NO get so sick that they bruise their eye lids throwing up...LOL..
A Lady Landlord makes a better one because I could always smooth them over. (when I was younger)
theprotector 10/10/2012 2:29:03 PM Report
thats my point tfinn, deterrance, we have none, penalties do not deter. all too often we simply treat the symtoms of a problem and not the root cause. Granted some people you just cant fix and they should be sent away for a long time. Minimum manditory sentences do nothing but cost money. This is what brough Californa and Texas close to bankrupcy was the 3 strikes your out rule. Remember the maxium sentence for a home break in is life in prison. Look that the home break ins we have. We cannot afford to build enough prisons if your goal is solely based on punitive action. We need to look closer at restorative justice and socail causes to crime. Not the bablonian eye for an eye.
thats my point tfinn, deterrance, we have none, penalties do not deter. all too often we simply treat the symtoms of a problem and not the root cause. Granted some people you just cant fix and they should be sent away for a long time. Minimum manditory sentences do nothing but cost money. This is what brough Californa and Texas close to bankrupcy was the 3 strikes your out rule. Remember the maxium sentence for a home break in is life in prison. Look that the home break ins we have. We cannot afford to build enough prisons if your goal is solely based on punitive action. We need to look closer at restorative justice and socail causes to crime. Not the bablonian eye for an eye.
cathyh 10/10/2012 2:40:38 PM Report
It's quite clear to me from reading your posts about the welfare system that not one of you has the answer. The politicians and the people who create the laws are a mirror image of all of you. There is no affordable answer. After saying that I do believe that our system of welfare, even with the cheats, beats the countries that have no welfare systems. Look at cities in Africa, India, Mexico, etc., where all the down and outers are on the streets begging. I certainly wouldn't like to see that in our city.
It's quite clear to me from reading your posts about the welfare system that not one of you has the answer. The politicians and the people who create the laws are a mirror image of all of you. There is no affordable answer. After saying that I do believe that our system of welfare, even with the cheats, beats the countries that have no welfare systems. Look at cities in Africa, India, Mexico, etc., where all the down and outers are on the streets begging. I certainly wouldn't like to see that in our city.
TankGirl 10/10/2012 4:13:15 PM Report
oldcat33 - The flu shot is useless. They are giving you a vaccine against last years virus strain. It will not help you against this years strain.
Pharma companies have to make money and the Government needs the public to believe they are being taken care of so its a win-win for them and a big lose for us.
oldcat33 - The flu shot is useless. They are giving you a vaccine against last years virus strain. It will not help you against this years strain.
Pharma companies have to make money and the Government needs the public to believe they are being taken care of so its a win-win for them and a big lose for us.
Just Curious 10/10/2012 5:20:20 PM Report
25 miller,you are so smart,what's your answer to the problem?? There are no easy solutions.
25 miller,you are so smart,what's your answer to the problem?? There are no easy solutions.
nowayman 10/10/2012 5:35:25 PM Report
Way to go maryann. stand your ground It's about time landlords got a fair shake. They have no rights what so ever.
My son is a landlord and it is unbelieveable what he has to put up with.
Way to go maryann. stand your ground It's about time landlords got a fair shake. They have no rights what so ever.
My son is a landlord and it is unbelieveable what he has to put up with.
Just Curious 10/10/2012 6:14:13 PM Report
nowayman, landlords had it their own way for a long time and now it's coming back to bite them in the ass.My ex-land lord raises the rent 300 and won't do squat..Once you move in you are on your own. He gets bums and no-goods that have the down stroke and 2 months later he is trying to evict them and it's his own damn fault. He has the reputation of being a slumlord and he deserves it.. 25 miller figues he is so smart so ask him how to make an even playing field for all concerned.I could rent a house in St Thomas where I am for the same as in the Soo and there is work down here.Sometimes I do think that people should be made,or enticed,to move elsewhere for work instead of putting them on permanent welfare...
nowayman, landlords had it their own way for a long time and now it's coming back to bite them in the ass.My ex-land lord raises the rent 300 and won't do squat..Once you move in you are on your own. He gets bums and no-goods that have the down stroke and 2 months later he is trying to evict them and it's his own damn fault. He has the reputation of being a slumlord and he deserves it.. 25 miller figues he is so smart so ask him how to make an even playing field for all concerned.I could rent a house in St Thomas where I am for the same as in the Soo and there is work down here.Sometimes I do think that people should be made,or enticed,to move elsewhere for work instead of putting them on permanent welfare...
TankGirl 10/10/2012 6:59:42 PM Report
You can't paint all landlords with the same brush much the same as you can't paint all tenants with the same brush. There is good/bad in everything.
There are also so many variables with rentals that you can't assume when a landlord raises rent when one tenant leaves means they are ripping people off. For example, if that Appartment is all inclusive that landlord is commited regardless of increasing electricity/gas bills for the length of stay with that lease to the agreed rental price. They cannot pass that expense onto the tenant more than a rental raise of somewhere around 2%yr. This is one example of many.
You can't paint all landlords with the same brush much the same as you can't paint all tenants with the same brush. There is good/bad in everything.
There are also so many variables with rentals that you can't assume when a landlord raises rent when one tenant leaves means they are ripping people off. For example, if that Appartment is all inclusive that landlord is commited regardless of increasing electricity/gas bills for the length of stay with that lease to the agreed rental price. They cannot pass that expense onto the tenant more than a rental raise of somewhere around 2%yr. This is one example of many.
TankGirl 10/10/2012 7:01:07 PM Report
Or I am completely wrong and flu shots will save the world and landlords are the devil. :)
Or I am completely wrong and flu shots will save the world and landlords are the devil. :)
Krusto 10/10/2012 7:10:10 PM Report
Why is it, according to addictedtocostco.com St. Albert, Alberta is listed to open a Costco in Fall 2013 AND according to their census the population listed just under 62,000.
Why is it Sault Ste Marie, with a population between 75,000 and 80,000 NOT including surrounding communities, CAN'T attract Costco??????
Why is it, according to addictedtocostco.com St. Albert, Alberta is listed to open a Costco in Fall 2013 AND according to their census the population listed just under 62,000.
Why is it Sault Ste Marie, with a population between 75,000 and 80,000 NOT including surrounding communities, CAN'T attract Costco??????
flyhawk25 10/10/2012 7:20:08 PM Report
Tank Girl...I am 'of an age' where my doc recommended a flu shot last year.
As a general rule I am reluctant to believe most pharmaceutical company claims.
But I also believe in the Chicken Soup Theory - it can't hurt.
So this year I will get the shot again and also the Shingles Shot - I have had shingles once and do not want them again -and the pneumonia shot.
Just living is a risk.
Cut down on the odds.
Tank Girl...I am 'of an age' where my doc recommended a flu shot last year.
As a general rule I am reluctant to believe most pharmaceutical company claims.
But I also believe in the Chicken Soup Theory - it can't hurt.
So this year I will get the shot again and also the Shingles Shot - I have had shingles once and do not want them again -and the pneumonia shot.
Just living is a risk.
Cut down on the odds.
statusquo 10/10/2012 8:06:32 PM Report
Fly,
"Just living is a risk"...
Yes it is. One never knows when the next bus is heading for you.
But one must look good and project confidence whilst going through the travails of life.
Having said that...I just watched something on TV about looking good on a budget.
The reoccurring word is "moisturizing".
I've struggled for years to keep my skin properly hydrated.
Apparently, allowing coconut milk to dry out and using the remaining goo , "shmearing" it liberally on your facial skin and scrotum will "smoothify" and assuage the wrinkles and other imperfections accumulated over a life of disappointments and setbacks.
Life is a struggle indeed, the least you can do is going at it with style and properly taking care of your skin.
Exfoliating is fine, but if you don't moisturize properly your efforts will be in vain.
Also, and I can't stress enough ...
posture....posture...posture!
Fly,
"Just living is a risk"...
Yes it is. One never knows when the next bus is heading for you.
But one must look good and project confidence whilst going through the travails of life.
Having said that...I just watched something on TV about looking good on a budget.
The reoccurring word is "moisturizing".
I've struggled for years to keep my skin properly hydrated.
Apparently, allowing coconut milk to dry out and using the remaining goo , "shmearing" it liberally on your facial skin and scrotum will "smoothify" and assuage the wrinkles and other imperfections accumulated over a life of disappointments and setbacks.
Life is a struggle indeed, the least you can do is going at it with style and properly taking care of your skin.
Exfoliating is fine, but if you don't moisturize properly your efforts will be in vain.
Also, and I can't stress enough ...
posture....posture...posture!
statusquo 10/10/2012 8:42:45 PM Report
And now for something completely different....
i.e council meeting and bad tenants.
If your rental lodging is a damp and rat infested hell hole don't be surprised if your tenants behave like rats.
No quotation or citing
needed...wasn't Confucius...but your very own Dr. Quo,
(smiley face)
And now for something completely different....
i.e council meeting and bad tenants.
If your rental lodging is a damp and rat infested hell hole don't be surprised if your tenants behave like rats.
No quotation or citing
needed...wasn't Confucius...but your very own Dr. Quo,
(smiley face)
statusquo 10/10/2012 8:45:31 PM Report
steely,
funny you should bring that up.....I went for an "exam" not too long ago and the good Doc was "checking" things out....the problem was....both his hands were on my shoulders.....
steely,
funny you should bring that up.....I went for an "exam" not too long ago and the good Doc was "checking" things out....the problem was....both his hands were on my shoulders.....
mallet 10/10/2012 8:46:15 PM Report
Statusquo...
I always found after washing in varsol that a moisturising coat of 5w30 or on a warm day 10w40 always seemed to do the trick, however I am not sure what the correct posture is when wearing spandex, prehaps you could advise. Halloween is getting close, if you know what I mean!!!
Statusquo...
I always found after washing in varsol that a moisturising coat of 5w30 or on a warm day 10w40 always seemed to do the trick, however I am not sure what the correct posture is when wearing spandex, prehaps you could advise. Halloween is getting close, if you know what I mean!!!
statusquo 10/10/2012 8:48:56 PM Report
mallet,
There is no "correct" posture....as long as your "junk" is prominently exposed and outlined to the shock and dismay of onlookers it's all good and will past muster.
mallet,
There is no "correct" posture....as long as your "junk" is prominently exposed and outlined to the shock and dismay of onlookers it's all good and will past muster.
Brianne 10/10/2012 9:37:47 PM Report
Flu shot , hmmmmmmm
Lets take a look at the ingredients of a flu shot:
Formaldehyde ......... cancer causing
Polysorbate 80........ can cause severe nonimmunologic anaphylactoid reactions
Hydrocortisone...... a medication that is not to be taken internally........
Gentamicin sulfate......... Serious adverse effects are nephrotoxicity, auditory or vestibular ototoxicity, impairment of neuromuscular transmission, and hypersensitivity reactions. Neuromuscular blockade and respiratory paralysis have occurred after administration.
Mercury.......... Mercury is the second most poisonous element known to man and studies have shown that neurons begin to disintegrate in its presence. Some of the most serious side effects of mercury are liver disorders, injury to the cardiovascular system and hematopoietic system, deafness and ataxia.
Flu shots also cause Guillain-Barré syndrome........... which is very prevalent here in the sault. My cousin got it after a flu shot........... destroys the coating on your nerves and can cause paralysis.
lets get that flu shot !
Try eating a natural ph balanced diet, there will be no need for flu shots..... and no GMO foods ( which is under huge scrutiny right now ) Testing has shown that if bugs eat GMO foods their bellies explode, but yeah, lets eat that !
Shingles Vaccine
The shingles vaccine temporarily "protects" about half of those vaccinated (CDC, 2011). No one knows how long the "benefits" of the vaccine will last, and each Zostavax shingle vaccination contains a litany of additives including MSG and aborted fetal cells and DNA, among things. Shingles cases result in three times as many deaths and five times the number of hospitalizations as chicken pox
MSG .......... Monosodium glutamate is known to cause a long list of side effects and health problems. Here are some to watch out for:
Allergic reactions
Alzheimer's disease
Asthma attacks
Burning, numbness, or tingling in or around your mouth
Brain damage
Cancer
Chest pain
Confusion
Damage to your unborn child
Death due to an MSG reaction
Diarrhea
Eye inflammation
Flushing
Free radical damage to your blood vessels (this can lead to a heart attack or a stroke)
Headaches (including migraine headaches)
Heart disease
Memory loss
Nausea
Pressure or tightness in the muscles in your face
Fertility problems (for both men and women)
Rapid, fluttering heartbeats
Seizures
Shortness of breath
Stuttering or speech problems
Sweating
Swelling of the brain (brain edema)
Type 2 diabetes
Weakness
Weight gain (the weight you gain from eating MSG is very difficult to lose)
Yup, lets get that "shingles shot" !
Do the research folks,these medications/vaccinations cause all kinds of side effects and deaths and disabilities. Eat right, get off the processed foods and you'll have no need of those shots
Flu shot , hmmmmmmm
Lets take a look at the ingredients of a flu shot:
Formaldehyde ......... cancer causing
Polysorbate 80........ can cause severe nonimmunologic anaphylactoid reactions
Hydrocortisone...... a medication that is not to be taken internally........
Gentamicin sulfate......... Serious adverse effects are nephrotoxicity, auditory or vestibular ototoxicity, impairment of neuromuscular transmission, and hypersensitivity reactions. Neuromuscular blockade and respiratory paralysis have occurred after administration.
Mercury.......... Mercury is the second most poisonous element known to man and studies have shown that neurons begin to disintegrate in its presence. Some of the most serious side effects of mercury are liver disorders, injury to the cardiovascular system and hematopoietic system, deafness and ataxia.
Flu shots also cause Guillain-Barré syndrome........... which is very prevalent here in the sault. My cousin got it after a flu shot........... destroys the coating on your nerves and can cause paralysis.
lets get that flu shot !
Try eating a natural ph balanced diet, there will be no need for flu shots..... and no GMO foods ( which is under huge scrutiny right now ) Testing has shown that if bugs eat GMO foods their bellies explode, but yeah, lets eat that !
Shingles Vaccine
The shingles vaccine temporarily "protects" about half of those vaccinated (CDC, 2011). No one knows how long the "benefits" of the vaccine will last, and each Zostavax shingle vaccination contains a litany of additives including MSG and aborted fetal cells and DNA, among things. Shingles cases result in three times as many deaths and five times the number of hospitalizations as chicken pox
MSG .......... Monosodium glutamate is known to cause a long list of side effects and health problems. Here are some to watch out for:
Allergic reactions
Alzheimer's disease
Asthma attacks
Burning, numbness, or tingling in or around your mouth
Brain damage
Cancer
Chest pain
Confusion
Damage to your unborn child
Death due to an MSG reaction
Diarrhea
Eye inflammation
Flushing
Free radical damage to your blood vessels (this can lead to a heart attack or a stroke)
Headaches (including migraine headaches)
Heart disease
Memory loss
Nausea
Pressure or tightness in the muscles in your face
Fertility problems (for both men and women)
Rapid, fluttering heartbeats
Seizures
Shortness of breath
Stuttering or speech problems
Sweating
Swelling of the brain (brain edema)
Type 2 diabetes
Weakness
Weight gain (the weight you gain from eating MSG is very difficult to lose)
Yup, lets get that "shingles shot" !
Do the research folks,these medications/vaccinations cause all kinds of side effects and deaths and disabilities. Eat right, get off the processed foods and you'll have no need of those shots
shakespeare 10/10/2012 9:42:32 PM Report
I believe that a diet of quinoa, kale, and watercress will prevent all known illnesses. (IA)
I believe that a diet of quinoa, kale, and watercress will prevent all known illnesses. (IA)
AceOfBass 10/10/2012 9:45:09 PM Report
Krusto 10 St Albert Alberta gets a Costco because it is part of Greater Edmonton. Sault Ste Marie does not get one even though we have access to over a 100,000 people if you take in the Eastern UP and as far east as Blind river and North to Wawa.
Krusto 10 St Albert Alberta gets a Costco because it is part of Greater Edmonton. Sault Ste Marie does not get one even though we have access to over a 100,000 people if you take in the Eastern UP and as far east as Blind river and North to Wawa.
AceOfBass 10/10/2012 9:49:48 PM Report
Councillor Frank Fata should be asked to run for Mayor.We need someone in charge and Frank would make a good Mayor.Anybody would be better than what is there now.
Councillor Frank Fata should be asked to run for Mayor.We need someone in charge and Frank would make a good Mayor.Anybody would be better than what is there now.
statusquo 10/10/2012 9:59:22 PM Report
Brianne,
Have you by chance looked into the research claiming that the polio vaccine has been connected to the HIV outbreak?
Not that I subscribe to conspiracy theories but the financial impetus to fear-mongering fueling "big pharma" is compelling.
HIV is real but it has as of yet not been scientifically proven to lead to AIDS. And AIDS has not been scientifically linked to HIV.
It's conjecture and a longing for clear answers. Akin to religion and a firm believe in a God. Any God will do as long as it jives with our outlook.
If money can be made from it....why not?
Brianne,
Have you by chance looked into the research claiming that the polio vaccine has been connected to the HIV outbreak?
Not that I subscribe to conspiracy theories but the financial impetus to fear-mongering fueling "big pharma" is compelling.
HIV is real but it has as of yet not been scientifically proven to lead to AIDS. And AIDS has not been scientifically linked to HIV.
It's conjecture and a longing for clear answers. Akin to religion and a firm believe in a God. Any God will do as long as it jives with our outlook.
If money can be made from it....why not?
statusquo 10/10/2012 10:10:24 PM Report
Ace,
I am vexed as to why you post here. Surely it cannot be to influence the masses.
Your praying to God and the Virgin Mary brought back your beloved lost dog. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, countless children are suffering and dying from leukemia and a 14 year old girlin Pakistan got shot in the neck by a Muslim redneck...but hey! your F_cking dog is safe at home!
So, save your internet subscription and donate it to to your favorite charity. Just pray to God or e-mail Jesus or whatever you freaks do and hope for the best.
The good Lord has it all panned out for us so why don't you just relax and watch the rapture.....
Ace,
I am vexed as to why you post here. Surely it cannot be to influence the masses.
Your praying to God and the Virgin Mary brought back your beloved lost dog. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, countless children are suffering and dying from leukemia and a 14 year old girlin Pakistan got shot in the neck by a Muslim redneck...but hey! your F_cking dog is safe at home!
So, save your internet subscription and donate it to to your favorite charity. Just pray to God or e-mail Jesus or whatever you freaks do and hope for the best.
The good Lord has it all panned out for us so why don't you just relax and watch the rapture.....
Brianne 10/10/2012 10:13:14 PM Report
Lots of theories Stats, the cut hunter theory,etc.etc.
Many , many vaccines are linked to autism which is becoming highly prevalent .
What about the Gardasil vaccine which has killed and disabled and deformed many young women .........
Lots of theories Stats, the cut hunter theory,etc.etc.
Many , many vaccines are linked to autism which is becoming highly prevalent .
What about the Gardasil vaccine which has killed and disabled and deformed many young women .........
Brianne 10/10/2012 10:17:07 PM Report
woops posted too soon.
over 10,000 young women have had adverse affects of the gardasil vaccine for HPV, now they want to give it to young men ? How many of those young men will die or become sterile or disabled from this vaccine?
woops posted too soon.
over 10,000 young women have had adverse affects of the gardasil vaccine for HPV, now they want to give it to young men ? How many of those young men will die or become sterile or disabled from this vaccine?
statusquo 10/10/2012 10:21:45 PM Report
Brianne,
Not sure about Gardasil....but let's take a look at ADSD and Methylphenidate aka Ritalin.
An invented condition with a convenient solution.
Diagnose the kids with dubious parameters and rake in the dough.
Brianne,
Not sure about Gardasil....but let's take a look at ADSD and Methylphenidate aka Ritalin.
An invented condition with a convenient solution.
Diagnose the kids with dubious parameters and rake in the dough.
Brianne 10/10/2012 10:27:26 PM Report
Yup, all the while it causes weak bone density, and easy bone breakage. Let alone the damage it does to the brain and central nervous system. It is classified in the "cocaine family"
Yup, all the while it causes weak bone density, and easy bone breakage. Let alone the damage it does to the brain and central nervous system. It is classified in the "cocaine family"
statusquo 10/10/2012 10:43:03 PM Report
Makes the "War on Drugs" postulated by Reagan and Bush sorta laughable....doesn't it?
Makes the "War on Drugs" postulated by Reagan and Bush sorta laughable....doesn't it?
Brianne 10/10/2012 10:45:48 PM Report
As the saying goes:
Medicine is not health care.... Food is healthcare. Medicine is sick care. Let's all get this straight, for a "change".
As the saying goes:
Medicine is not health care.... Food is healthcare. Medicine is sick care. Let's all get this straight, for a "change".
Brianne 10/10/2012 10:49:41 PM Report
Another quote that hits home too
I don't understand when we destroy something created by man, we call it " vandalism:, but when we destroy something created by mother nature we call it "progress"
Ed Begley Jr.
Another quote that hits home too
I don't understand when we destroy something created by man, we call it " vandalism:, but when we destroy something created by mother nature we call it "progress"
Ed Begley Jr.
mallet 10/10/2012 10:49:47 PM Report
Sorry Brianne, but this old guy is gonna get his flu shot, too many snotty nosed little grandkids and their friends running about to want to get laid low by a flu bug. I agree that prehaps some new drug/vaccines are not exactly what they claim to do, but it has been said many times before that the cure is sometimes worse than the malady. However if you beleive everything that is said then you would not take any asprin, insulin, you name it for the fear it may harm you, and if you take this to the logical conclusion you would not get out of bed for fear of tripping down the stairs, going outside and being struck by lightning, crossing the street and being struck by a mac truck, or being shot by the jealous wife of a former boyfriend. Any of these things could happen, but they don't in a normal lifetime, live dangerously, get a flu shot, don't trip down the stairs, look both ways before crossing the street....
Sorry Brianne, but this old guy is gonna get his flu shot, too many snotty nosed little grandkids and their friends running about to want to get laid low by a flu bug. I agree that prehaps some new drug/vaccines are not exactly what they claim to do, but it has been said many times before that the cure is sometimes worse than the malady. However if you beleive everything that is said then you would not take any asprin, insulin, you name it for the fear it may harm you, and if you take this to the logical conclusion you would not get out of bed for fear of tripping down the stairs, going outside and being struck by lightning, crossing the street and being struck by a mac truck, or being shot by the jealous wife of a former boyfriend. Any of these things could happen, but they don't in a normal lifetime, live dangerously, get a flu shot, don't trip down the stairs, look both ways before crossing the street....
Brianne 10/10/2012 10:58:18 PM Report
bahhhhhhhhhh, i've never had the flu shot and i work with the public on a daily basis. Have I gotten colds and flu, yep.
The choice is yours grump, if you have a predisposition to pneumonia, etc. yah, i'd get it, but if you are perfectly ( as well as can be) stay away from the flu shot. It's not a necessity for normal healthy people........ really.......... until the day comes along that the anti viral resistant bugs come along, then what. We are creating our own demise.
Am I a fear monger? No
I just don't believe in taking something that is going to do worse for me than good. My antibodies will be strong and able to fight off the flu. :P
bahhhhhhhhhh, i've never had the flu shot and i work with the public on a daily basis. Have I gotten colds and flu, yep.
The choice is yours grump, if you have a predisposition to pneumonia, etc. yah, i'd get it, but if you are perfectly ( as well as can be) stay away from the flu shot. It's not a necessity for normal healthy people........ really.......... until the day comes along that the anti viral resistant bugs come along, then what. We are creating our own demise.
Am I a fear monger? No
I just don't believe in taking something that is going to do worse for me than good. My antibodies will be strong and able to fight off the flu. :P
Brianne 10/10/2012 11:04:46 PM Report
Pretty much, but,it's the quality of life, not the quantity Wisen !
Pretty much, but,it's the quality of life, not the quantity Wisen !
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