jean-paul 10/2/2012 3:15:15 AM ReportHO ho quack quack quack quack quack more quacks to follow.
AceOfBass 10/2/2012 8:07:19 AM ReportLost Black miniature female poodle with Red Scarf with white maple leafs answers to Blackie. Shannon Road wellington to Queen st area.If found leave notice here to where can be picked up.Phone number on Rabies tag.
BIG BROTHER 10/2/2012 9:59:55 AM Report'Politics is the entertainment division of the military industrial complex'.
Frank Zappa
How true. Think about this as you hunker down, popcorn in hand, preparing to watch the 'Big Debate'. The anticipation equals an Ali-Fraser boxing match.
While we are all distracted by the 'big show' smoke screen, what skullduggery is lurking behind the scenes by non-elected people.
Brianne 10/2/2012 10:13:05 AM Reportace, please message me at
victorianheart@shaw.ca
Brianne 10/2/2012 10:14:37 AM ReportJC, glad to hear you are ok, was worried ! Also glad to hear your buddy is doing great with you, I think you both would have been heartbroken if you had left him behind !
flyhawk25 10/2/2012 10:33:00 AM ReportA judge just stopped a voter photo ID law in Pennsylvania for the presidential election.
Good.
It and others like it is just a thinly veiled attack by Republicans to keep minorities from voting.
Politics is rampant with corruption but this law would not have done anything but disenfranchise folks who simply don't have photo ID or access to birth certificates.
It is not only unconstitutional but mean spirited and speaks to the level of animus the white power elite have for the 'others'.
learningaswego 10/2/2012 11:39:12 AM ReportNonsense - without a law like it, what's preventing people from voting several times at different locations?
Nothing.
flyhawk25 10/2/2012 11:49:35 AM ReportReally?
Yet there was never one - not one - case of voter fraud in that state.
The the law was passed by a Republican controlled state government with no - not one - Democratic vote.
Who are the neo-cons afraid of?
Yeah.
Brianne 10/2/2012 11:55:16 AM ReportCheeky !
"With increasing fear among ordinary people about financial elites and their manipulation of money markets, the Vatican has decided to make matters worse by adding its own bizarre twist to the problem: It has proposed a supranational authority to manage a new global bank. Not only would financial power rest in the hands of a world body like the UN, but the Vatican would like all countries to cede some of their sovereign powers to it."
http://americanfreepress.net/?p=1263
Grace 10/2/2012 11:56:22 AM Reportfly..last election I had to show photo ID right here in little old Sault Ste Marie!
Doesn't bother me one bit to show I am a citizen..
bluesslinger 10/2/2012 11:57:33 AM Report"law would not have done anything but disenfranchise folks who simply don't have photo ID or access to birth certificates."
- because they are illegals. In order for socialists to win they break the law and use bribery. Ever hear of Obama phones? They also pay bus loads of people $11.00 per hour to heckle at GOP events.
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows Obama 48% and Romney 47%.
Bobby Nerves 10/2/2012 11:59:55 AM ReportFly, photo ID for voting must be the rule.
Knowing what cons are capable of doing on elections day... from installing the ballot box on top of a light pole to whatever you can imagine, the need of a photo ID to cast the vote is a must.
Not only cons, but generally those drunk with a fake patriotism and power will never accept a limitation and control.
Do not forget that the reform to the health system and the implementation of the regulations was passed with the vote of the Democrats and no vote of the Republicans.
flyhawk25 10/2/2012 12:03:44 PM ReportBaloney.
They are not 'illegals'.
They are American citizens who don't have photo ID. Their only offense is that they are generally older, minorities and likely to vote Democrat.
While you're checking do a study on who are in prisons. No racism there at all.
Grace 10/2/2012 12:21:03 PM ReportSo in this day and age you are trying to tell us that there are people so far off the grid that they don't have proper identification?
How do they file their taxes? Pay municipal and school taxes register for selective service Get bank account..cash cheques?
It should be up to them as citizens to make sure they comply to the rules of voting. I'm sure that if they are so far removed..going to vote must be tops on their list of things to do!
flyhawk25 10/2/2012 12:25:48 PM ReportI've lived long enough to see some stupid laws but a 'just in case law'?
Come on.
So even if you are a knuckle dragging neo-con ask yourself why you'd want a law passed when there is no documented proof of voter ID fraud in the whole state?
Have you ever been to Pennsylvania?
One wag described it as
"Philadelphia on one side and Pittsburgh on the other and hillbillies in between".
Apparently some of them migrated north to Canada.
BIG BROTHER 10/2/2012 12:33:32 PM ReportGrace,
That is the point!! They are already so dis-enfranchised, that with just a little more dis-couragement, they definitely won't bother voting.
This country (US) is over 200 hundred years old. If they haven't figured this basic democratic principle (right to vote) out yet, then heaven forbid the countries that they just forced into their form of democracy. ie. Iraq
Next thing....Obama wasn't born in the US. If the CIA, FBI, Homeland Security, etc. can't figure that one out, then the whole bureaucracy is a joke!!! And the right wing are too far gone for hope.
bluesslinger 10/2/2012 12:36:44 PM ReportFacts About Voter Fraud
Voter Fraud is a Huge Problem!
24 million voter registrations in the United States are inaccurate…or fraudulent!
1.8 million dead people are listed as voters!
In 2010 Washington, D.C. finally scrubbed their voter lists against a list of deceased individuals - and removed more 98,000 dead voters from the rolls.
2.8 million people have more than one registration!
In many cities there are more voters’ names than the US Census lists as the total number of residents!
You can read more here:
http://conservativesnow.com/fighting-voter-fraud/fight-voter-fraud
Or you can continue to rely on the lame stream media for your mis-information.
All Is Well 10/2/2012 12:45:30 PM ReportBlues, so what. The Republicans pay their people $11.25 to attend Obama events. How much money is spent by third party groups doing the same thing. You only had to watch the events that unfolded in Florida a decade ago to realize that anything goes in politics. There should be ID shown, as proof of who you are. It shouldn't be limited to just photo ID, though. They could enact a provision, after this election, stating that for the 2014 elections and all elections after that, there will be proof required, much like what already is in place in Ontario. The problem in the states is that every state has their own monopoly on the rules.
flyhawk25 10/2/2012 1:41:04 PM ReportSome source - a right wing spin doctor.
I repeat.
If there was fraud why wasn't even one case filed?
This is one more example of how the truth and the neo-cons are strangers.
Even when their 'truths' are proven not 'self-evident' and wrong (i.e. the nutty birther theory) they just keep telling each other it's a lefty cover-up.
I am not naive enough to think that there isn't voter fraud. I was born in Chicago for heaven's sake.
However you beat the fraud with police work not blanket ID laws aimed at minorities.
learningaswego 10/2/2012 1:46:47 PM ReportYou need a system to ensure ONE vote per person.
How you could achieve this without requiring at least some form of valid ID is beyond me.
Further, if you don't have photo ID, how do you ensure that a person isn't just "loaned" a bunch of ID's, and votes several times? Answer is, you can't.
A system without checks and balances to ensure one vote per person will be RIFE with fraud.
Oddly, it's people who are usually leftist voting, who scream foul when any kind of reasonable controls are put forward.
People who tend to vote conservative, have no problem whatsoever with rules to ensure one vote per person.
Why? Because they have nothing to hide.
Grace 10/2/2012 2:04:48 PM ReportFly and BB..seriously..get a grip.
learning thanks for making it simple for them...not that it will help!
asIseeit 10/2/2012 2:21:24 PM ReportYou cannot have it both ways...wanting less government and having government in your face..ie Voter I.D.
AceOfBass 10/2/2012 2:33:44 PM ReportVoter fraud has taken place right here in Sault Ste Marie.
There has not been a proper nose count in this city for any of its elections.
There are people on the election roll that voted in two places and the dummies at the polling station did not catch it.
Some people voted in Ward 5 as they were on the roll and then voted in Ward 6 as there name with a different spelling was there on that roll.
You can have multiple properties and residences and be voting in both places
if the enumeration is not done every 4 years.
The system has no correction system.They just used the old roll and add items to it by building permits.
learningaswego 10/2/2012 2:45:59 PM ReportSeems a system is needed where:
a) prove you are eligible to vote
b) prove that you are the person that you claim to be
c) as soon as a person votes, it goes in to a computer system immediately and where, if the person tries to vote again in the same election at any other location, a computer picks that up immediately, notifies the election workers, and the vote is denied.
flyhawk25 10/2/2012 3:21:15 PM ReportI'll tell you how 'fool proof' our system here is.
At the last election I took my daughter to vote. Even though she had a photo ID from OHIP and a voting card the official wanted something with both her picture and her address - I assume a driver's license.
She does not drive.
So I had to swear an oath that she was who she said she was and lives where the card said she lived.
Since she is on ODSP and I have power of attorney we complied, I grit my teeth and we left.
The unxious little jerk calling the shots was so full of himself that I did not want to cause her any more trauma.
I chalked it up to the price of democracy.
Left Winger 10/2/2012 3:31:12 PM Reportre: voter fraud
how about utilizing the system they imposed in Afganhistan, Iraq etc...
finger print the whole lot of them. If you attempt to vote twice guess what? the ink is still on the finger! easy enough for the vigilators,,,,
T-rat 10/2/2012 4:27:09 PM ReportGrace:
I agree with you. Showing photo ID doesn't bother me either. It is definitive proof. But I think this whole issue of ID in US federal elections has to be looked at in two ways. ID of some sort that proves who you are should be required. And even that could pose a challenge for some. Photo ID is something else again.
We're quite lucky in that regard here in Ontario -- OHIP card, driver's license, passport, student card and there are probably other examples. And although I'm not a world traveller I have been to parts of the USA where in spite of knowing the date and year, you could swear that you've just gone back in a time warp. Get off the main highways and take some real back roads in places like West Virginia, the Ozarks, the Appalachians and the bayous of Louisiana. Completely different worlds! Photo ID? Hell, there are places here where they don't even have hydro.
T-rat 10/2/2012 4:27:56 PM ReportGrace:
I agree with you. Showing photo ID doesn't bother me either. It is definitive proof. But I think this whole issue of ID in US federal elections has to be looked at in two ways. ID of some sort that proves who you are should be required. And even that could pose a challenge for some. Photo ID is something else again.
We're quite lucky in that regard here in Ontario -- OHIP card, driver's license, passport, student card and there are probably other examples. And although I'm not a world traveller I have been to parts of the USA where in spite of knowing the date and year, you could swear that you've just gone back in a time warp. Get off the main highways and take some real back roads in places like West Virginia, the Ozarks, the Appalachians and the bayous of Louisiana. Completely different worlds! Photo ID? Hell, there are places here where they don't even have hydro.
Wheels17 10/2/2012 5:02:30 PM ReportI think that Photo ID law needs alot of work because they left our the people that aren't able to get one because they don't have access to any transportation and therefore cannot get down to a government office to get one. And voter fraud is always happening anyways because of computer or human error and usually is never found out.
steelworker 10/2/2012 5:13:40 PM ReportThe Pink Pony hasn't even announced his candidancy for the head of the Liberal Party and already the MSM are making him into a slightly paler version of the Anointed One from the USA. The CBC is showing his mug every 15 minutes and the acolytes are lining up to shower praise upon the littlest Turdeau. Another pretty face but no credentials is apparently all you need to run for political office in Canada. Maybe I should run {as good lookin' as I am ;)).
flyhawk25 10/2/2012 6:24:36 PM ReportYawn.
So why bother to comment?
Are you afraid of another threat to the Tory dynasty?
Come now.
Who could defeat the PM?
Certainly not some little pinko with a wacko mother.
Rest easy pal. Clean your nails, take out your comic book collection and have your momma serve you supper in your man cave.
skipper dave 10/2/2012 6:46:13 PM ReportNot much danger of fraud in Canada, fact if you vote more then once you deserve a medal. I'm with Fly on the due diligence of the electioneerer's, they only work one day in four years so watch out chum. I got thrown up against the wall for folding my ballot improperly !
Hey gang - Don't forget haul out of the rag boats this Saturday at Hilton Beach. Just happens to be one of the greatest sources of entertainment on the island. Spelly and his gang will be there. (he will be wearing a brain bucket case they drop a sailboat on him.
steelworker 10/2/2012 7:02:20 PM ReportI wondered when the thick-headed one would show up. Supper was fine and the man cave is taking shape quite nicely;thank-you.
flyhawk25 10/2/2012 7:07:07 PM ReportSkipper...I need an excuse to head over to watch on my way to Whiskey Bay.
What time is the Celtic Cross being elevated?
skipper dave 10/2/2012 7:22:02 PM ReportShe should be lifted out of her natural element between 10 and 11. Dress warm they (Right Wing's Commandoes) are calling for flurries. Interesting tidbit all meteorologist are die hard Neo-Cons. How do I know, they are only right 50% of the time and still maintain their jobs!
skipper dave 10/2/2012 7:28:01 PM ReportHey folks Hilton Beach loves pomp and pageantry. As the boats come out the Pipers will play. For a preview go to "You Tube" and search for Queen Mom funeral pipes and drums.
skipper dave 10/2/2012 7:55:16 PM ReportMust fess up - the pipers were invited this morning?
realitycheck 10/2/2012 9:26:31 PM ReportA late comment on voter ID. I am in favour but the problem in the U.S. was the lateness of tackling the problem. It was done to try to keep votes away from the Democrats. If these states had been truly concerned about voter fraud they would have made the changes after the last election. This would have given them an opportunity to provide everyone with ID and everyone the opportunity to obtain it. The courts have recognized this and some states appear to have done so themselves, such as Texas and Wisconsin.
AceOfBass 10/2/2012 10:29:41 PM ReportWhat a great Idea leave bacon outside of a mosque.I guest the jihadists were upset
We just need make clothes out of bacon porky pants and piggy shirts.