right wing 9/22/2012 2:11:18 AM ReportOh boy, now the lefties won't have to go to the archives to read what great education material they may have missed, free of charge and courtesy of me!
You can thank my guests that left late for your good fortune.
right wing 9/22/2012 12:49:11 AM Report
Yes I love the internet, research, reading, googling and all the facts that are at hand.
Facts that can be supported by various sources.
1969 to 2003, almost 5,600 people lost their lives and more than 16,300 people suffered injuries due to international terrorism directed at the United States.
The fact that the threat of transnational terrorism was widely recognized by the IC [intelligence community] and policymakers, virtually no initiatives were taken to address the deep-seated limitations of U.S. strategic intelligence that made it an inadequate instrument for meeting its threat.
The U.S. for over four decades became an increasing target of terrorism that was blatantly ignored by it's leaders in Washington.
During the Bush years a forging of national homeland security enterprise composed of federal, state, and local assets, as well as private citizens emerged after the 9/11 attacks.
As a result, law enforcement has foiled at least 39 terror plots since 9/11. Simply put, the intelligence and law enforcement communities are better able to track down leads in local communities than they were on September 10, 2001.
Since 9/11, and the Bush administrations aggressive approach to terrorist activities both at home and abroad, the attacks against the United States at home have become non-existent and abroad have dramatically dropped.
Now I wonder if Obama had that thought in his head as he stood and so proudly bragged about "getting Bin-Laden".
We shall now hear from the lefties that the the U.S. created Bin-Laden and got "what they deserved".
They were all just peaceful sheep herders until the U.S., hungry for oil, caused all of this.
Drum roll....now take it away, flyhawk, shakespeare, statusquo, skippy, Grump, Jimssm....any one will do.
right wing 9/22/2012 2:11:53 AM Report....before I forget...Quack.
steelworker 9/22/2012 6:26:06 AM ReportDon't worry right wing: they are frothing in their sleep.
jean-paul 9/22/2012 6:31:23 AM ReportAnd more quack quack quack, GRUMP quack quack ,time and place ya rat.
RLE 9/22/2012 6:44:56 AM Reportright wing Googling this kept you up until 2:00 am. Wow, somebody needs a life.
Grump 9/22/2012 7:01:29 AM ReportThe USA supplied arms and funding for Bin Laden to fight the Russians in Afganhistan and when the Russians pulled out the USA droped him like the piece of camel dung that he was. Any moron would at the least keep a close eye on him but no Bush Lite chose to ignore warnings and gave Bin Laden a clear shot for 9/11. Second part, it took Obama to go and take care of that business. rw I'll await your frothy take on this.
Brianne 9/22/2012 7:02:14 AM ReportAnother good day for ducks ! QUACK !
Where's our indian summer ????????
Jimssm 9/22/2012 7:37:03 AM ReportTerrorism is for the most part directed against 2 countries, the USA and Israel.
Anybody ever stop to ask themselves why ?
skipper dave 9/22/2012 7:52:52 AM ReportGood morning sweet Soo!
Response to "Are Dubbya" late night delusional praise of his hero "Garge Dubbya".
With a few zealots and some phoney ID and plastic credit cards the terrorists have costs the Americans billions in security costs, slowed cross border traffic to a trickle and promoted hatred of the US world wide because of the knee jerk response of Garge. Imagine hi-jacking a few planes and crash them into some buildings and bring the US to it's knees, drowning in it's own paranoia. And "Are Dubbya" applauds the response?
Jimssm 9/22/2012 7:57:14 AM Reportrw
So the USA was asleep at the wheel through both Dem and Repub administrations.....I'm not sure of your point.
Bush Jr. would not have changed a thing if 911 hadn't happened. Obama hasn't changed much in the way of intelligence policy since he became President.
The USA has had it's nose in everyone else's business for decades. It's too costly (money and lives) so it may be time for a healthy round of isolationism.
flyhawk25 9/22/2012 8:36:53 AM ReportIsolationism?
There is a possibility that Romney could be elected.Isolationism will be the least of their problems.
First off I don't think he's any more evil than Dubyuh was. Bush Lite was just stupid. Cheney was evil.
Romney isn't evil.He is an elitist spoiled rich kid who believes that Americans do work hard - "When you lost your $22 a hour job you replaced it with two $9 an hour jobs".
He fails to mention that he is one of the reasons that happened.Because he really does believe in trickle-down economics and the divine right of the rich to rule.
Unfortunately that will result in a class war that will make isolationism pale.
These masses are all hooked up electronically. They have the right to bear arms, many have been trained by the government and they will be pissed off.
Can you see a civil war? Why not? All the elements are in place and it might be time for a purge of the powerful.
Just like the rest of the world.
theprotector 9/22/2012 8:57:21 AM Report12 of those federal jobs are being moved out of the Sault, out of our community and it will cost each and everyone of us with less service. Not only that but tons more money. These positions are still there but they (Harper) - wants to shut the sault down.
theprotector 9/22/2012 8:59:15 AM ReportFor the jobs that are not being cut - Hayes needs to get off his ass and keep those jobs here. I heard all it would take would be a phone call to the assistant deputy minister and he has refused to save any jobs. He is just letting them go!
theprotector 9/22/2012 9:03:16 AM Reportright wing = loser
Dont you think it is time you grew up and left your momma's basement?
Or better yet move the the usa you moron
Jimssm 9/22/2012 9:06:46 AM ReportFly...
I wasn't referring to isolationism as a problem. I think of it more as a pulling back of the tentacles they have spread into far too many countries.
There will come a time when the voices of the neo-cons will be overpowered by those that just want the USA to MYOB for a little while.
It happened in the past.
A civil war...maybe. But I think the trigger will be a general collapse of the worldwide money system. Maybe a huge solar storm that knocks out all electrical systems for 6 months or so. That would put rich and poor on the same footing. The poor would actually have an advantage, as they have always had to live with little.
...Now I'm going to put my tinfoil hat away...
Jimssm 9/22/2012 9:08:17 AM ReportDon't hold your breath waiting for Hayes to say anything.
statusquo 9/22/2012 9:49:00 AM Reportrw,
There are different opinions on the Internet and alternative media outlets.
Also, history observed from the receiving end of the stick can look vastly different than is presented on The History Channel.
Open your eyes and mind and truly reflect on your own before you post right wing biased propaganda.
I have been known to froth and spew left wing propaganda occasionally. However, I believe that the truth is somewhere in between or as of late, completely elusive.
I am 100% certain that if Obama was Republican you would defend him and his actions come hell and high water.
Not once, have you ever remotely applauded anything from a liberal politician on either side of the border. How can that be?
Myself, I have stated before that I thought Richard M. Nixon was one of the better Presidents the U.S had and also that J.F.K was not.
Both Bill Clinton and George H. Bush (senior) did well, under the circumstances.
(i.e inheriting an economic nightmare after 8 years of `Reaganomics`,
also known as `vodoo economics)A free for all , unregulated disaster cooked up by a B Actor.
W. Bush (junior) on the other hand , was a total disaster economically, and utterly destroyed
the good will and support the U.S enjoyed after 9/11.
But all you can come up with is this hubris based pablum, force fed to you about a birth certificate and faux employment numbers by firms run and abandoned by Romney.
On a more local level, according to you, the cons can't do no wrong!
Hayes is clearly as active as a two by four in a lumberyard but of course in your view, he is earning his keep.
So far Mr Hayes has done less than Tony Martin, and he is a member of the folks in power!
But you and I both know why Tony was ineffective right?....he wasn't born here!
Mr. Poster 9/22/2012 9:57:27 AM ReportHayes huh....so much for electing a member of the "ruling " party. I hope he is a one term wonder !!! He thinks he deserves that big fat raise? ya right Hayes.
BIG BROTHER 9/22/2012 10:11:44 AM ReportVery well thought out and expressed Stats. You've presented a well balanced thesis, once again. BUT, my gut tells me that a balanced approach , with some, is viewed as a weakness in conviction. A so-called 'fence sitter'. 'If your not with us, you're against us' mentality. Compromise is weakness to these types. They are not happy till your down in the dirt with them slugging it out. Then they can point the finger back and say 'you did it too'!
To me, it feels somewhat like trying to rationalize with a child in the throws of a tantrum.
bluesslinger 9/22/2012 10:29:53 AM Report"Terrorism is for the most part directed against 2 countries, the USA and Israel.
Anybody ever stop to ask themselves why ?"
Oh sure.
Here's a top ten listing of countries that have the most terrorist attacks, according to a global ranking that assesses the frequency and intensity of terrorist incidents:
1 Somalia
2 Pakistan
3 Iraq
4 Afghanistan
5 Palestinian Occupied Territory
6 Colombia
7 Thailand
8 Philippines
9 Yemen
10 Russia
14 ISRAEL
33 USA
44 France
46 United Kingdom
67 Canada
70 Germany
What was your point anyway?
Jimssm 9/22/2012 11:01:39 AM Reportblues...
I guess I shouldn't have shot from the hip....
I was responding to rw's posting of the number of deaths attributed to terrorism.
bluesslinger 9/22/2012 11:31:09 AM ReportHey, it happens...
sweetc 9/22/2012 11:51:05 AM ReportUS US US US US US US US US US US US... pOLITICS POLITICS POLITICS POLITICS...
Is there no Local or at least Canadian news to discuss????
skipper dave 9/22/2012 12:06:14 PM ReportWonder what's keeping this blog's poster boy for a whipping post? Hey RW, wake up - no fun taking shots at the guy and him snoring contently under the big picture of him and Garge shaking hands at the 2004 plumbers convention in washington.
All Is Well 9/22/2012 12:09:06 PM ReportIf the Canadian government would release information about their budget implementation, then we could talk about something different. Cutting spending $35 Billion over 5 yrs. and telling Canadians they won't notice anything, is real smoke and mirrors. But, at least, I don't have to register all my guns. Perhaps we should talk about the ReformaCons and their total disregard for democracy.
Big Bad Bob 9/22/2012 1:00:11 PM ReportOne could go further back in history to make my point, but let us start with Spain. When it controlled most of the wealth of the Indies, the pirates of other countries including England and France were continually plundering it. When Napoleon was top banana in Europe, most of the rest of that continent, including England and Spain, were against him. When Britannia ruled the waves, the rest of the world including the United States, which adored twisting the British lion’s tail, envied and detested England. Since the end of the Second World War, the USA has been top banana of our planet and is currently envied and hated by most of it. Israel’s problems with the Muslim World are not essentially religious, but because of its existence which the latter consider to be an unjustified land grab. The Muslim World’s hatred of the USA stems mostly from the latter’s support of Israel and just plain envy shared by a substantial portion of the rest of our globe.
Sir Wilfrid Laurier once predicted that “The Twentieth Century belongs to Canada.” If that dream had become a reality, most other countries would hate and envy us as much as they now do the USA. That’s simply the way of the world.
shakespeare 9/22/2012 1:24:34 PM ReportSkipper: as I type, I sense that rw is strapping that half a brain behind his back again (the other half remains embedded a little lower)and he'll come out saying how important he is to us ... and he's right: he's made "Whack a Mole" a very entertaining pastime for many.
BBB: The Germans, who love to be hated, have never quite made it to the top rung!
asIseeit 9/22/2012 1:45:45 PM ReportLol protector
AceOfBass 9/22/2012 4:05:33 PM ReportLet us take a trip down memory lane with the voting record of our former city Councillor MP Bryan Hayes.
At the 2005 Budget, voted to reduce increased snow removal
from $500,000 to $124,650, a cut of 75%. He has no problems cutting essential
services AND raising taxes.
Hardly conservative!
Funding outside agencies such as the Innovation Centre, using your tax money to help 61
employees of the City make $100,000 plus a year, approving millions in irresponsible cost overruns and helping drive up the city’s debt .
Hardly conservative!
Voted to give core funding to the Innovation Centre in the 2006
Budget, adding an annual levy on residential tax bill.
Innovation Centre was
supposed to be self-sufficient in 5 years. Since 1999, they have received Millions.
· Supported 233% increase to Council’s travel budget allowance. Hardly Conservative!
· Supported hundreds of thousands of dollars of taxpayer money for multimodal studies in the last decade that have amounted to virtually nothing!
· Supported a decade of world travel for former mayor to essentially do the job the EDC is funded to do. Did not ask for follow up reports on most of
the trips which resulted in no tangible economic benefit to the city
· Supported taking $6.5 million from capital works project (road repair)
in 2005 and using that to pay for Second Line truck route, whose cost overruns were $5.2 million. The $6.5 million was not used for road repair in 2005.
· Supported $5.2 million cost overruns on the truck route
· Supported over $17 million in cost overruns on the east end sewage ,All this is you guest it Hardly Conservative!
Are we better off now than we were before MP Bryan Hayes was elected?
Last time I checked we elected a Conservative MP.It seems and looks like we elected a undercover Dipper!
steelworker 9/22/2012 4:11:45 PM ReportI think theprotector might be one of those 12 government employees on the ropes. Maybe he can move back into his parents basement.
Jimssm 9/22/2012 4:29:42 PM ReportAce.....
Hayes is a model Conservative.
Get us heavily into debt and then leave it to the Liberals to get us out.
steelworker 9/22/2012 4:38:28 PM Report...and McGuinty is doing such a great job or can you blame this on Harper somehow. The Feds are starting to trim an over-bloated bureauocracy of freeloaders. Just go to any government office and watch some of these clowns at work. Canada Customs is a prime example of waste.
BIG BROTHER 9/22/2012 4:49:45 PM Reportsteelworker,
Coming from one of the 'lazy' Algoma Steel workers, your opinion screams hypocrisy.
steelworker 9/22/2012 5:06:18 PM ReportI don't think you would last an hour in 2 shop.
BIG BROTHER 9/22/2012 5:10:36 PM ReportBeen there. Changed a few lances over the years. I think I know what I'm talking about. Two hours in the shack would be hard for anyone, listening to all the experts rattle on about how lazy those government workers are. All this while hiding from the foreman, should he have a job for them to do. Sound familiar steely. Yup, 2 hours in 2 shop is called lunch break!!
trevone 9/22/2012 5:16:25 PM ReportI think I see the beginning of a pissing contest.
BIG BROTHER 9/22/2012 5:31:19 PM Reporttrevone,
I have a hard time listening to the 'resident expert' talk about the lazy 'others' whose livelihoods are on the line. Hypocrisy is the only word I can find to describe it. I have been there and steely knows that I know. Sounds too much like Mitt (the silver spooned one) and his 47% rule; never got his hands dirty in his life and has zero repect for those who have.
Now steely, file a grievance against me for disparaging a 'union brother'. Oh, you are against unions.
steelworker 9/22/2012 5:47:33 PM ReportMust of been in maintainence. Sleep most of the shift and whine when production calls for a lance change.
skipper dave 9/22/2012 5:49:44 PM Reportshhhh! Steely your embarrassing those that do work hard at Essar. A lot of the kids coming in today are hard workers. And yes we do have our share of deadwood.
Brianne 9/22/2012 5:57:34 PM ReportFood for thought, it's a 47 minute video, but extremely interesting >Let me know what you think.
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPNMR_iABvyFmc3G9i1r3Lw
statusquo 9/22/2012 5:59:30 PM ReportSteely,
"Must of been in maintainence."
It's "have"...... Must "have" been. And "maintenance". I know it's hard to switch to proper English when wearing a cap with a fertilizer logo embossed on it.
It's a bitch ain't it when lack of education keeps you from climbing the ladder.
But keep on regaling us with your words of wisdom...at least you're more cogent than JP.
steelworker 9/22/2012 6:17:32 PM ReportI didn't know that the Liberal Party gave out caps. As for spelling I just came off a 12 hour shift. Also, I am at the top of the ladder.
flyhawk25 9/22/2012 6:22:59 PM ReportHmm...Must be some ladder.
statusquo 9/22/2012 6:24:05 PM ReportGood for you steely,
Now relax, enjoy the weekend and give the "missus" some lovings.
I tried last night but wasn't watching the air pressure and "boom"...Darlene needs a patch.
theprotector 9/22/2012 6:33:09 PM ReportLOL @ steelworker
What a doe head....go back to the steelmill and have your 8 hour nap, better yet get off your lazy fat ass and do a decent days work.
Sorry I retired a long time ago and get my COLA with my pension. And unlike you I want to keep as many jobs in this community as I can, without them we will not have a community. Shh I here you sister calling....gotta run
theprotector 9/22/2012 6:33:10 PM ReportLOL @ steelworker
What a doe head....go back to the steelmill and have your 8 hour nap, better yet get off your lazy fat ass and do a decent days work.
Sorry I retired a long time ago and get my COLA with my pension. And unlike you I want to keep as many jobs in this community as I can, without them we will not have a community. Shh I here you sister calling....gotta run
statusquo 9/22/2012 6:33:30 PM ReportTop of the ladder eh?...sounds a lot like an illustrious poster we had in here a while ago..."Trinculo"...Haven't heard from him in a while. He had a penchant for using his sister's computer and being an insufferable douchebag to boot. (he postulated that Rick Perry would be the next U.S President) I am sure it ain't you. He could spell!
(smiley face)
steelworker 9/22/2012 6:54:20 PM ReportNice to see theprotector come out of the closet.
AceOfBass 9/22/2012 7:33:02 PM ReportWhat has MP Hayes done to keep his current job?
All we hear from him is the conservative script tow the party line. He was a CAO puppet now he is just another back row bench-er in the nose bleed seats of the House of Commons.
What were we thinking when we elected this guy?
Where is the Sea Port for the Sault MP Hayes?
Where are all your promises you made to get elected?
All we get is Federal Job reductions here in the backwoods of Northern Ontario. Fed Job reductions in Ottawa and TO would make more sense.
We knew what we got from Tony,MP Hayes we expected more. What is your excuse for not producing?
statusquo 9/22/2012 7:38:21 PM ReportAnd now for something completely different..
Apparently, Egypt has issued arrest warrants for two Canadian men, from Toronto and Montreal , respectively, for being involved with the utterly ridiculous "Mohammad" movie.
Whether or not they were involved in making this irrelevant, amateurish piece of crap is irrelevant!
The reaction in the Muslim world, orchestrated or not is totally unacceptable!
I know and am well aware that any excuse to rail the uneducated masses against big bad "Amrika" and the Zionist Jews is exploited to the max by powers that know better, but to even foster the idea that this Egyptian arrest warrant has any legal basis is ludicrous.
If Allah is not man enough to withstand some criticism than he certainly is not man enough to be God!
I am working on a movie script myself called "Broke Back Dune" where Mohammad and another male friend venture into the desert and some lovings ensue. The poor camels witness and are abhorred and psychologically scarred by the unspeakable acts of unbridled man to man love.
Stone me!
statusquo 9/22/2012 8:14:31 PM ReportBefore I forget,
I am an atheist and have equal regard (or lack thereof) for Christianity and Islam and whatever other freak cult you'd like to throw into the mix.
What bothers me intensely is that we somehow accept the innate irritability of Muslims when it comes to fundamental questions.
Salman Rushdie had to go into hiding for the "Satanic Verses", Theo Van Gough, a Dutch director was stabbed to death in Amsterdam , Ayaan Hirsi Ali, an incredibly articulate and intelligent writer from Somalia and outspoken feminist and human rights activist is living under protection in the U.S due to threats to her life by Islamic radicals..and the list goes on.
This is simply not acceptable!
If you need a God in your life, that is fine by me. But please, leave me out of it.
If I insult your religion, I am sure your God will punish me with or without your help. Thank you and come again!
trevone 9/22/2012 8:30:13 PM ReportI understand that the Minister of Railways in Pakistan has offered $100,000 for the person who kills the film-maker.I wonder if Bush ever put out a contract on Micheal Moore.
By the way, Status Quo have you any ideas for the actors in your film?
BIG BROTHER 9/22/2012 8:38:15 PM Reportsteely,
I knew you were top of the ladder material. Must be way up there where the oxygen gets a little thin, cause there's not much getting to the brain.
You must be the hardest worker in town. Nobody works as hard as you do.
statusquo 9/22/2012 8:43:37 PM ReportNot sure yet,
Thinking of working in Sean Penn and/or Meryl Streep...she can vocalize a camel accent so well.....
Ben Kingsley would make a credible Mohammad. Although, Clint Eastwood would fit in with the vengeful one...you know...."make my day" and such...unless he is involved in a deep discussion with a chair....
shakespeare 9/22/2012 8:53:23 PM ReportI'm thinking it should be called "Mo's Deliverance" and should involve duelling desert banjos. I would offer to be screenwriter and to avoid personal jihad repercussions, I think I'd have to make up a pseudonym: "bluesslinger" has nice ring to it
Grump 9/22/2012 9:06:24 PM ReportMy goodness Ace that was a good post which is a huge departure from some of the crap you used to come out with. Keep up the good work and you are certainly right that Hayes was a dud and still is. Politically the Sault just keeps shooting its self in the foot again and again. That said with some of the bright bulbs on here it is no small wonder.
Just Curious 9/23/2012 1:17:29 AM ReportThat's the difference between us and the muslem world, we can poke fun at each other,they can't...LOL..Just lurkin'...
steelworker 9/23/2012 2:43:30 AM ReportBig Brother: maybe you could show up some time. Bring your husband.