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jean-paul 6/25/2012 5:35:28 AM Report
Good blah blah blah blah day blah day blah blah hot blah blah weather blah blah blah.
Good blah blah blah blah day blah day blah blah hot blah blah weather blah blah blah.
Grump 6/25/2012 6:58:41 AM Report
Good morning everyone, have a great day. I'll repeat myself JP take a hike. Skipper you are correct ,many boat repair materials and finishes are really toxic stuff. Been there and used much of it. That may account for me being a good Catlick. LMAO
Good morning everyone, have a great day. I'll repeat myself JP take a hike. Skipper you are correct ,many boat repair materials and finishes are really toxic stuff. Been there and used much of it. That may account for me being a good Catlick. LMAO
jean-paul 6/25/2012 7:50:29 AM Report
I have my say just like you.I love it here to.Also it,s Jean-Paul, not JP.
I have my say just like you.I love it here to.Also it,s Jean-Paul, not JP.
right wing 6/25/2012 8:05:25 AM Report
Grump
Not to get technical on ya but if you had bothered to read through Wikki you would have found that they also state that "dry rot" or "true dry rot" although a widely used term has no scientific evidence that it exists.
The name "dry rot" is a misnomer as wood decaying fungi will only flourish in moist environments.
Moisture must be present for the fungi to develop and exist.
Grump
Not to get technical on ya but if you had bothered to read through Wikki you would have found that they also state that "dry rot" or "true dry rot" although a widely used term has no scientific evidence that it exists.
The name "dry rot" is a misnomer as wood decaying fungi will only flourish in moist environments.
Moisture must be present for the fungi to develop and exist.
Spellchecker 6/25/2012 8:57:53 AM Report
On the subject of dry rot, I was led (note the correct spelling of the word LED) to believe it occurs when a wooden boat is stored in an unventilated area.
Another spelling reminder seems to be in order these days as some of my former spelling class students are falling back into their earlier habits.
The contraction for YOU ARE is YOU'RE.
YOUR denotes possession, as in YOUR book, or YOUR boat, or YOUR recidivism into poor spelling habits.
On the subject of dry rot, I was led (note the correct spelling of the word LED) to believe it occurs when a wooden boat is stored in an unventilated area.
Another spelling reminder seems to be in order these days as some of my former spelling class students are falling back into their earlier habits.
The contraction for YOU ARE is YOU'RE.
YOUR denotes possession, as in YOUR book, or YOUR boat, or YOUR recidivism into poor spelling habits.
Left Winger 6/25/2012 9:06:48 AM Report
very interesting read - 10 myths about aboriginals debunked by TD Trust...
http://www.td.com/document/PDF/economics/special/sg0612_aboriginal_myth.pdf
sorry don't have the short url loaded on new computer yet
very interesting read - 10 myths about aboriginals debunked by TD Trust...
http://www.td.com/document/PDF/economics/special/sg0612_aboriginal_myth.pdf
sorry don't have the short url loaded on new computer yet
Left Winger 6/25/2012 9:10:10 AM Report
ooops, wrong link
here is the correct one using the short url
http://alturl.com/jng85
ooops, wrong link
here is the correct one using the short url
http://alturl.com/jng85
right wing 6/25/2012 9:15:52 AM Report
Spellchecker
The term dry rot has a long history and can be traced back to sailing ships.
It is a misnomer as the fungi needs moisture to form.
That is why it is most commonly found on wood that is touching the ground, has little or no ventilation or in wet damp areas.
Spellchecker
The term dry rot has a long history and can be traced back to sailing ships.
It is a misnomer as the fungi needs moisture to form.
That is why it is most commonly found on wood that is touching the ground, has little or no ventilation or in wet damp areas.
Spellchecker 6/25/2012 9:28:10 AM Report
So there we are, no ventilation would cause the buildup of mosture which would attract the fungi which would cause the rot. Hence, no such thing as dry rot, a euphemism in fact, for moist rot.
So there we are, no ventilation would cause the buildup of mosture which would attract the fungi which would cause the rot. Hence, no such thing as dry rot, a euphemism in fact, for moist rot.
3rd times a charm 6/25/2012 10:11:52 AM Report
Good morning Bluemies!
Neither irl will work for me Left Wing :(
So glad to have you back Sir Spelly...you've been missed :)
Good morning Bluemies!
Neither irl will work for me Left Wing :(
So glad to have you back Sir Spelly...you've been missed :)
flyhawk25 6/25/2012 10:13:45 AM Report
Wow.
Dry rot.
Is there no limit to the banality of this discourse?
We have people digging through debris in Elliot Lake and the topic-of-the-day is dry rot?
What's next?
Fungus Remedies 101?
Wow.
Dry rot.
Is there no limit to the banality of this discourse?
We have people digging through debris in Elliot Lake and the topic-of-the-day is dry rot?
What's next?
Fungus Remedies 101?
right wing 6/25/2012 10:28:02 AM Report
flyhawk25
Does not matter the topic, somebody will bitch about it.
I have been following the Elliot Lake mall nightmare, it has made national news sources.
I was going to post on it a couple of times but the words that I thought might be appropriate somehow did not seem enough for what they are experiencing in that small town.
The mall roof had been inspected by an "engineer" a month ago and deemed safe.
Hope his liability insurance is paid up, he/she is going to need it.
It is also clear why they waited for the experts on this (some questioned why they did not send in miners) as the instability of the building is making it a hazard for any rescue teams.
I hope they find the person(s) that were the source of the tapping still alive.
flyhawk25
Does not matter the topic, somebody will bitch about it.
I have been following the Elliot Lake mall nightmare, it has made national news sources.
I was going to post on it a couple of times but the words that I thought might be appropriate somehow did not seem enough for what they are experiencing in that small town.
The mall roof had been inspected by an "engineer" a month ago and deemed safe.
Hope his liability insurance is paid up, he/she is going to need it.
It is also clear why they waited for the experts on this (some questioned why they did not send in miners) as the instability of the building is making it a hazard for any rescue teams.
I hope they find the person(s) that were the source of the tapping still alive.
right wing 6/25/2012 10:33:24 AM Report
Spellchecker
Leaving within the hour and I shall be driving through the metropolis of Hilton Beach...any Radars traps on Main St., sometimes when I am not watching I do 55 k.p.h. going past your house.
Spellchecker
Leaving within the hour and I shall be driving through the metropolis of Hilton Beach...any Radars traps on Main St., sometimes when I am not watching I do 55 k.p.h. going past your house.
Koss 6/25/2012 12:09:02 PM Report
Two ambulances have left the Algo Centre rescue site: http://www.elliotlakestandard.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=3589366
Two ambulances have left the Algo Centre rescue site: http://www.elliotlakestandard.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=3589366
AceOfBass 6/25/2012 1:00:40 PM Report
What does the Coalition of Passenger Trains have to do with ratepayers association/ The CAPT is flogging a dead horse with this passenger-train nonsense.Sorry people passenger train service died over 50 years ago and is not going to happen anytime soon.So go ahead and waste your time and money a useless project.
What does the Coalition of Passenger Trains have to do with ratepayers association/ The CAPT is flogging a dead horse with this passenger-train nonsense.Sorry people passenger train service died over 50 years ago and is not going to happen anytime soon.So go ahead and waste your time and money a useless project.
Left Winger 6/25/2012 1:21:34 PM Report
sorry 3tac
here it is using tinyurl
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hope it works for you. I've tried several times and it worked okay.
sorry 3tac
here it is using tinyurl
http://tinyurl.com/7nrqva2
hope it works for you. I've tried several times and it worked okay.
Bobby Nerves 6/25/2012 1:34:05 PM Report
Spellchecker, your expression:
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So there we are, no ventilation would cause the buildup of mosture which would attract the fungi which would cause the rot. Hence, no such thing as dry rot, a euphemism in fact, for moist rot.
**********
No ventilation, humidity, moisture build up, lack of hygiene or maintenance, will ever attract anything. Those are only some of the conditions that will create the proper environment.
Your assumption is wrong.
Unfortunately, you can not find much information about how complex is the botanic science, twice as large as medicine.
Fungi multiply by spores, a very minuscule particle or structure that can move around earth two or three times (sort of) and if landing in the right environment, it will grow in less than six hours. Humidity and/or the existence of moisture in the environment will attract absolutely no fungi. By the contrary, if an spore lands in a proper environment, it will instantly start it's development. If there is no propensity in the environment, then will not be fungi.
It requires not only lack of air movement, but certain level of humidity, certain temperature and few other conundrum.
There is a theory, that cancer in itself is a sort of fungi, kept under control by the immune system and once the immune system fails for whatever reason (stress is one of them) that failure generate the proper condition for the spore to grow as we know it for cancer.
Of course, I know nothing about it, I'd only google it. And please, you stop changing the google page, I know it's you, because the words are always pointing towards the right side of my screen.
Spellchecker, your expression:
**********
So there we are, no ventilation would cause the buildup of mosture which would attract the fungi which would cause the rot. Hence, no such thing as dry rot, a euphemism in fact, for moist rot.
**********
No ventilation, humidity, moisture build up, lack of hygiene or maintenance, will ever attract anything. Those are only some of the conditions that will create the proper environment.
Your assumption is wrong.
Unfortunately, you can not find much information about how complex is the botanic science, twice as large as medicine.
Fungi multiply by spores, a very minuscule particle or structure that can move around earth two or three times (sort of) and if landing in the right environment, it will grow in less than six hours. Humidity and/or the existence of moisture in the environment will attract absolutely no fungi. By the contrary, if an spore lands in a proper environment, it will instantly start it's development. If there is no propensity in the environment, then will not be fungi.
It requires not only lack of air movement, but certain level of humidity, certain temperature and few other conundrum.
There is a theory, that cancer in itself is a sort of fungi, kept under control by the immune system and once the immune system fails for whatever reason (stress is one of them) that failure generate the proper condition for the spore to grow as we know it for cancer.
Of course, I know nothing about it, I'd only google it. And please, you stop changing the google page, I know it's you, because the words are always pointing towards the right side of my screen.
learningaswego 6/25/2012 2:13:33 PM Report
It would probably be cheaper to buy a car for everybody who wants to use the passenger train service in N. Ont.; compared to the cost of running trains with few passengers.
It would probably be cheaper to buy a car for everybody who wants to use the passenger train service in N. Ont.; compared to the cost of running trains with few passengers.
Brianne 6/25/2012 2:13:45 PM Report
Dear God:
Please don't let those (30 people ?) trapped in that debris have to suffer any longer without food/water/medical help.
Please let the rescuers get to them safely and quickly and without harm. These people need their help, now.
Let there be hope and faith for the families of their loved ones to get through all of this pain and anguish and see their missing loved ones soon.
Amen
ml
Dear God:
Please don't let those (30 people ?) trapped in that debris have to suffer any longer without food/water/medical help.
Please let the rescuers get to them safely and quickly and without harm. These people need their help, now.
Let there be hope and faith for the families of their loved ones to get through all of this pain and anguish and see their missing loved ones soon.
Amen
ml
Brianne 6/25/2012 3:02:24 PM Report
B.N., cancer is due to the ph levels in our body, a low ph is not good, nor is a high ph.
We all need to learn how to balance the ph level to 7.4 and slightly alkaline.
Eat more alkaline foods !
B.N., cancer is due to the ph levels in our body, a low ph is not good, nor is a high ph.
We all need to learn how to balance the ph level to 7.4 and slightly alkaline.
Eat more alkaline foods !
Handywoman 6/25/2012 3:22:16 PM Report
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If anyone is interested in joining my new general interest forum for Sault Ste. Marie, you can go to http://freesoo.freeforums.org and join up. You can participate in discussion on topics already there, or start your own thread to discuss what you want. Be nice, and all will play out well. Be mean and nasty, and , .... well, .... you know what happens. Thanks to all that come and join the fun!
25miller 6/25/2012 3:31:20 PM Report
wow pictures are posted on face book from april till now...no wonder it fell..how could this pass the safty that was done before the sale of it?
wow pictures are posted on face book from april till now...no wonder it fell..how could this pass the safty that was done before the sale of it?
jean-paul 6/25/2012 4:08:30 PM Report
I dont know what the heck is going on but I personally helped raise the roof at the Station Mall when it collapsed in the winter .It did,nt take but a few hours,and that included setting up a hoist outside.We came directly from Algoma to do it.Luckily no one was found.I hope no one is suffering in Elliot lake.The story at the mall was the same, one of the sport shops started to have trouble closing the doors around the shop near the Dennis street entrance, thats because the roof was slowly collapsing, the mall was told and they did the same thing, nothing.
I dont know what the heck is going on but I personally helped raise the roof at the Station Mall when it collapsed in the winter .It did,nt take but a few hours,and that included setting up a hoist outside.We came directly from Algoma to do it.Luckily no one was found.I hope no one is suffering in Elliot lake.The story at the mall was the same, one of the sport shops started to have trouble closing the doors around the shop near the Dennis street entrance, thats because the roof was slowly collapsing, the mall was told and they did the same thing, nothing.
skipper dave 6/25/2012 5:02:27 PM Report
RW - I take exception to you lecturing Grump this morning on what the meaning of dry rot is. You clearly enjoyed copying and pasting from the net. If showing the rest of us how stupid we are gets your rocks off then so be it. I can tell you without ever having spoken to Grump that both of us understood what we meant by dry rot. The operative word is rot and nautical people still use the term DRYROT and always will. Someone poking their nose in to give us an encyclopedia version of white rot, brown rot or wet rot does nothing to enhance the discussion nor himself. I bet Grump has poked his fingers in more rotted wood than any plumber I know.
RW - I take exception to you lecturing Grump this morning on what the meaning of dry rot is. You clearly enjoyed copying and pasting from the net. If showing the rest of us how stupid we are gets your rocks off then so be it. I can tell you without ever having spoken to Grump that both of us understood what we meant by dry rot. The operative word is rot and nautical people still use the term DRYROT and always will. Someone poking their nose in to give us an encyclopedia version of white rot, brown rot or wet rot does nothing to enhance the discussion nor himself. I bet Grump has poked his fingers in more rotted wood than any plumber I know.
Brianne 6/25/2012 5:03:26 PM Report
Just saw those pics miller, unblelievable that people have even been allowed in there with the damage and gaping holes in the ceilings , and huge chunks of drywall hanging from the ceilings and nothing cordoned off.
Nice that someone there was paying attention to what was happening in the mall and taking pictures all those months before the collapse
Just saw those pics miller, unblelievable that people have even been allowed in there with the damage and gaping holes in the ceilings , and huge chunks of drywall hanging from the ceilings and nothing cordoned off.
Nice that someone there was paying attention to what was happening in the mall and taking pictures all those months before the collapse
right wing 6/25/2012 6:04:56 PM Report
skippy dave
So it's O.K. that I gave you good and true advice on the concrete pads but if I point out that there is really not "dry rot" then I'm lecturing.
Like I said, bite me.
skippy dave
So it's O.K. that I gave you good and true advice on the concrete pads but if I point out that there is really not "dry rot" then I'm lecturing.
Like I said, bite me.
right wing 6/25/2012 6:33:56 PM Report
jean paul
Regarding your post.....
Good blah blah blah blah day blah day blah blah hot blah blah weather blah blah blah.
jean paul
Regarding your post.....
Good blah blah blah blah day blah day blah blah hot blah blah weather blah blah blah.
right wing 6/25/2012 6:39:20 PM Report
Now on to more important matters.
The rescue operation is over????
I get that you can't send crews into unsafe areas.
I have been listening to reports all day on CBC radio but have not heard, yet, that they are completely over.
The latest story by SooToday is suggesting they are worried about the entire building coming down.
Then it jumps to the responsibility of the demolition being the municipalities.
What about those still in there possibly alive?
Pretty dam confusing "news" story.
Now on to more important matters.
The rescue operation is over????
I get that you can't send crews into unsafe areas.
I have been listening to reports all day on CBC radio but have not heard, yet, that they are completely over.
The latest story by SooToday is suggesting they are worried about the entire building coming down.
Then it jumps to the responsibility of the demolition being the municipalities.
What about those still in there possibly alive?
Pretty dam confusing "news" story.
djjazz09 6/25/2012 6:45:18 PM Report
I am assuming that they want a demolition plan to remove the escalator and staircase so that rescue workers can work safely to bring those people who are still trapped to safety.
I am assuming that they want a demolition plan to remove the escalator and staircase so that rescue workers can work safely to bring those people who are still trapped to safety.
djjazz09 6/25/2012 6:53:12 PM Report
If they put the rescue effort on hold then the chance of someone being alive would be slim, depending on the type of injuries.
If they put the rescue effort on hold then the chance of someone being alive would be slim, depending on the type of injuries.
right wing 6/25/2012 7:01:22 PM Report
The OPP have confirmed the sound of breathing in the area of the escalator, the original area that tapping was heard.
Victims have been know to live over two weeks buried in rubble.
The OPP have confirmed the sound of breathing in the area of the escalator, the original area that tapping was heard.
Victims have been know to live over two weeks buried in rubble.
Jacinta 6/25/2012 7:23:22 PM Report
what do you think of the David Carrie case?
Should be be declared a dangerous offender
what do you think of the David Carrie case?
Should be be declared a dangerous offender
djjazz09 6/25/2012 7:42:54 PM Report
Yes RW but if there are head injuries, intgernal bleeding, limb injuries, or damage to internal organs, all of these conditions can determine if loss of life is imminent or not. At this time no one knows for sure, but I am hoping for the best to the person that is trapped.
Yes RW but if there are head injuries, intgernal bleeding, limb injuries, or damage to internal organs, all of these conditions can determine if loss of life is imminent or not. At this time no one knows for sure, but I am hoping for the best to the person that is trapped.
mallet 6/25/2012 7:47:42 PM Report
Right Wing....
It will take at least a couple of months before a demolition order can be made.. and then the owners will contest it... and then the demo will have to go out to tender... it may well be a year or so before they can do the recovery of the persons trapped inside... watching the news, the old lady who asked why they did not accept the offer from mine rescue I do not know... Underground there is all sorts of problems and mostly if they have difficulty they use a form of cribbing to allow work to progress... guess these people from TO haven't heard of that stuff. To abandon someone is not what rescue is about...
Right Wing....
It will take at least a couple of months before a demolition order can be made.. and then the owners will contest it... and then the demo will have to go out to tender... it may well be a year or so before they can do the recovery of the persons trapped inside... watching the news, the old lady who asked why they did not accept the offer from mine rescue I do not know... Underground there is all sorts of problems and mostly if they have difficulty they use a form of cribbing to allow work to progress... guess these people from TO haven't heard of that stuff. To abandon someone is not what rescue is about...
Bobby Nerves 6/25/2012 8:12:04 PM Report
Mallet, as I said in the beginning, everything goes by liability.
In these cases, the court will end spreading the liability in percentage points to different organism, professionals, and the owners. It's early to make a call, but human error is there, no doubt, but, as it is Northern Ontario, we have to wait for the results.
I don't know where your expertise is coming from, but should the Fire Marshal be in charge, and he decides a demolition, it'll be executed in no more than 48 hours. In this case, I believe it is Emergency Management Ontario that has its people working there and they are the ones making the calls.
Remember that at this point the building structure belongs to no one, but the Ministry, Ministry of Safety and Correctional Services, and if the person in charge (Emergency Management Ontario) decides that demolition is the way to go, no one can stop it and will be executed in matter of hours.
I've been there.
Mallet, as I said in the beginning, everything goes by liability.
In these cases, the court will end spreading the liability in percentage points to different organism, professionals, and the owners. It's early to make a call, but human error is there, no doubt, but, as it is Northern Ontario, we have to wait for the results.
I don't know where your expertise is coming from, but should the Fire Marshal be in charge, and he decides a demolition, it'll be executed in no more than 48 hours. In this case, I believe it is Emergency Management Ontario that has its people working there and they are the ones making the calls.
Remember that at this point the building structure belongs to no one, but the Ministry, Ministry of Safety and Correctional Services, and if the person in charge (Emergency Management Ontario) decides that demolition is the way to go, no one can stop it and will be executed in matter of hours.
I've been there.
joewho999 6/25/2012 8:25:37 PM Report
In the USA. you can purchase a dry cell, which is composed of stainless steel and water. This is used to produce hydrogen and oxygen,used to produce fuel for internal combustion motors.Google and you will find.
In the USA. you can purchase a dry cell, which is composed of stainless steel and water. This is used to produce hydrogen and oxygen,used to produce fuel for internal combustion motors.Google and you will find.
Nunavut 6/25/2012 8:44:47 PM Report
If the Elliot Lake tragedy had occurred in the 1970's or 80's the emergency staff would of been allowed to be heros and risk life and limb to rescue people from the building , but here we are in 2012 when insurance risk and lawyers cause emergency staff to never be heroic in their efforts. The World trade centre still had a few heroic emergency crews in 2001 , but here in Ontario we have redtape. A sad day when we abandon the injured.
If the Elliot Lake tragedy had occurred in the 1970's or 80's the emergency staff would of been allowed to be heros and risk life and limb to rescue people from the building , but here we are in 2012 when insurance risk and lawyers cause emergency staff to never be heroic in their efforts. The World trade centre still had a few heroic emergency crews in 2001 , but here in Ontario we have redtape. A sad day when we abandon the injured.
epc 6/25/2012 8:56:48 PM Report
Such a tragedy in Elliot Lake on all sorts of levels.
My heart aches for those trapped waiting for help and for their families.
Such a tragedy in Elliot Lake on all sorts of levels.
My heart aches for those trapped waiting for help and for their families.
skipper dave 6/25/2012 9:16:19 PM Report
Elliott Lake a tragedy yes but hold off on judging the rescue effort to be not the very best. No one puts the rescue team in harms way without ensuring a good chance of success, even mine rescue. For all we know this whole complex may be on the verge of collapsing and retrieving victims means removing fallen structure. These folks are professionals. Or the mess may have shifted and any sign of life may have ceased with a shift. Do you risk losing the team to bring out the deceased or do you bring in the heavy machinery. We are not there. I can't imagine anything but the very best effort from a team of dedicated men and women. Life and death situations like this don't need our "they should have". Thank god in Canada we have the good Samaritan law that frees these folks from the litigious morass that would befall them if it were happening in the land of the dollar bill.
Elliott Lake a tragedy yes but hold off on judging the rescue effort to be not the very best. No one puts the rescue team in harms way without ensuring a good chance of success, even mine rescue. For all we know this whole complex may be on the verge of collapsing and retrieving victims means removing fallen structure. These folks are professionals. Or the mess may have shifted and any sign of life may have ceased with a shift. Do you risk losing the team to bring out the deceased or do you bring in the heavy machinery. We are not there. I can't imagine anything but the very best effort from a team of dedicated men and women. Life and death situations like this don't need our "they should have". Thank god in Canada we have the good Samaritan law that frees these folks from the litigious morass that would befall them if it were happening in the land of the dollar bill.
Sam C 6/25/2012 9:32:35 PM Report
Well said, skipper.
The first rule of emergency response is to ensure the area is safe for the responders.
Well said, skipper.
The first rule of emergency response is to ensure the area is safe for the responders.
sweetc 6/25/2012 9:43:20 PM Report
I agree that the area has to be safe for the workers,,, but in this day and age they should have the technology to be able to get on with the search safely. To just throw in the towel after only 2 days does not say very much for us as Canadians. step back, regroup and ask for help if you don't know what to do but don't abandon the trapped people. sad day for sure.
I agree that the area has to be safe for the workers,,, but in this day and age they should have the technology to be able to get on with the search safely. To just throw in the towel after only 2 days does not say very much for us as Canadians. step back, regroup and ask for help if you don't know what to do but don't abandon the trapped people. sad day for sure.
mallet 6/25/2012 10:32:11 PM Report
Skipper Dave and Sam C.
Skip, ever hear of the RNLI? They go to sea when just looking at it can make good men puke...
Sam, Does the fire dept say, well lets put the fire out before we go look for people, if they think there are people inside?
In both cases these people risk life and limb to try and save survivors, even if they know there is not much chance. There are riggers and millwrights who can do things which some experts say are impossible, if given the go ahead. You shore up an area if it looks unsafe, you shore up a building if it looks like falling. I have fotos which my daughter had sent from some people in Elliot Lake, and I agree it looks a shamble, but YOU DO NOT ABANDON a search while there is a hope there are people inside, hurt, waiting for rescue. If the place falls down on it's own in the next week I will apologise to all concerned, but I don't think it will.
Skipper Dave and Sam C.
Skip, ever hear of the RNLI? They go to sea when just looking at it can make good men puke...
Sam, Does the fire dept say, well lets put the fire out before we go look for people, if they think there are people inside?
In both cases these people risk life and limb to try and save survivors, even if they know there is not much chance. There are riggers and millwrights who can do things which some experts say are impossible, if given the go ahead. You shore up an area if it looks unsafe, you shore up a building if it looks like falling. I have fotos which my daughter had sent from some people in Elliot Lake, and I agree it looks a shamble, but YOU DO NOT ABANDON a search while there is a hope there are people inside, hurt, waiting for rescue. If the place falls down on it's own in the next week I will apologise to all concerned, but I don't think it will.
Brianne 6/25/2012 11:05:00 PM Report
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/25/elliot-lake-mall-collapse/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
The rescue team is on the way back !
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/25/elliot-lake-mall-collapse/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
The rescue team is on the way back !
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